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Chaoz
18-10-2008, 10:33 AM
Hi, may I know if anyone of u guys here ever got caught with illegal modification of exhaust endcan? E.g.
1. 'tong' endcan
2) use fake baffle
3) remove the baffle totally
4) use illegal full system but legal endcan
5) use illegal full system with illegal endcan

share your experience pls

Chaoz
19-10-2008, 02:12 PM
come share ur experience with ur pipe mod..

how good are our local rovs or tps? Do they only know the brand? Know how to listen to the sound? Or simply check on everything?

louisyhw
19-10-2008, 09:08 PM
bro seems like ur poll got some typo. :)

Chaoz
19-10-2008, 11:44 PM
haha. yeah.. but poll cannot edit.. zzz

racingter
20-10-2008, 02:04 AM
mine ,take out sliencer and kana caught $500 fine and i had never take out ever again in singapore...as for malaysia and thailand..it's my "SOP" to remove...:angel:

ASTRADA
20-10-2008, 03:35 PM
come share ur experience with ur pipe mod..

how good are our local rovs or tps? Do they only know the brand? Know how to listen to the sound? Or simply check on everything?


r u sure ur not working undercover for LTA???? :angel:

Chaoz
20-10-2008, 07:20 PM
r u sure ur not working undercover for LTA???? :angel:

haha.. as if i know which bikes u guys are riding and who u r.. juz a discussion thread.. i duno how good the men in white are.. things like fake baffle or illegal full system with legal end cans are quite hard to catch i assume..

DeNgFoNg
20-10-2008, 08:23 PM
I think for small bike gt full system pipe juz change anyway also kana 500 if u use original pipe to modify not worth man , as for me i kana muffler yamaha tzm but i riding sp haha

steel_headz
21-10-2008, 08:28 AM
My original pipe i wrapped it with carbon fibre n paste a MICRON sticker... Is there anything wrong with it?

Hopefully should be ok..

1Seth1
27-10-2008, 05:21 PM
hahaha.. nice.. i removed my baffle.. think the sound is nicer..

Acer1337
31-10-2008, 11:13 AM
mine ,take out sliencer and kana caught $500 fine and i had never take out ever again in singapore...as for malaysia and thailand..it's my "SOP" to remove...:angel:

What bike are you riding? Is taking out silencer makes a noticeable difference?

racingter
01-11-2008, 01:20 PM
i kana caught once for the following offence..tampering with exhaust.

kana a whooping $500

after discount,i pay $200

***Discount - applies to First offender only***
---Speak to the LTA Officer for more enquires---

racingter
01-11-2008, 01:21 PM
i remove the sliencer/baffle ...the next day kana cuaght liao on my LV!!!:dot:

Chaoz
01-11-2008, 04:13 PM
i kana caught once for the following offence..tampering with exhaust.

kana a whooping $500

after discount,i pay $200

***Discount - applies to First offender only***
---Speak to the LTA Officer for more enquires---

discount? got such things de ah?

racingter
14-11-2008, 01:47 AM
discount? got such things de ah?

Yes...only applies to first offender. for my encounter.

Yatz86
14-11-2008, 02:43 AM
regular customer always got discount mah

think TP ear quite fragile(anytime can drop 1), hear those pipe tampered with straightaway give saman. especially 2strokers.


.just kidding:p

if wanna take out silencer, advise on msian road.

Chaoz
14-11-2008, 03:01 PM
then what about the journey from home to custom? Can't be bring your whole pipe and changing it after custom right?

JbAtRaCeR
14-11-2008, 03:10 PM
then what about the journey from home to custom? Can't be bring your whole pipe and changing it after custom right?

Normally those guys use exhaust that have removeable baffle...

racingter
14-11-2008, 04:20 PM
yup ...those very the hard to remove one not advisable...:lol:

Stardust83
14-11-2008, 04:38 PM
hahaha.. nice.. i removed my baffle.. think the sound is nicer..

i put back my baffle liao sia....:lol: After using for almost a yr with fake baffle.

feip0-
26-01-2009, 07:39 PM
sorry~
just to clarified .
u say appeal only for 1st time offender as in pipe only or all other traffic offence.
i was caught for pipe recently but before tat i got appeal for my other summon before .
got chance for the discount ? :cheeky:

Sprinta03
27-01-2009, 01:44 AM
Like racingter said-
only apply for 1st offender-
more than that-chances are slim-
summon will even go up for 2nd offender and above-
i once kana tarik base on my 125z-
chamber pipe-
both side mirrors dont have-
no chainguard-
tinted headlight & signal light-
racing footrest-
total summon nearing 1k-
appeal from mp-
paid half the price-around 200-
so be wise when u wana go appeal-
make sure u got lots of summons not those minors-
haha-

epk
27-01-2009, 03:10 PM
Like racingter said-
only apply for 1st offender-
more than that-chances are slim-
summon will even go up for 2nd offender and above-
i once kana tarik base on my 125z-
chamber pipe-
both side mirrors dont have-
no chainguard-
tinted headlight & signal light-
racing footrest-
total summon nearing 1k-
appeal from mp-
paid half the price-around 200-
so be wise when u wana go appeal-
make sure u got lots of summons not those minors-
haha-

wah bro racing footrest you also kena. the tp must hate you alot eh. haha. :cheeky:

aRcHeR
27-01-2009, 03:17 PM
or you can choose not to mod up your bike, keep everything stock other than exhaust.

this way, TP can't be bothered when they see stock bikes.

the more you zhng, the more TP wanna find fault.

Sprinta03
28-01-2009, 12:21 AM
wah bro racing footrest you also kena. the tp must hate you alot eh. haha. :cheeky:



ROV sia-
Haha-
What to do-
Now can't be bothered already-
Just spend money on my bike outer look is way better-
keeping e rest standard- :cheers:

mi5trooper
28-01-2009, 04:26 PM
got a qn.
1. if the pipe get so rusty then it has hole and welding back is not a solution anymore. what will happen?
2. if the bike is so old that cannot find orgi pipe, what will happen?
3. if the rider install a better quality, a more silent pipe. what will happen?

Sprinta03
28-01-2009, 05:41 PM
got a qn.
1. if the pipe get so rusty then it has hole and welding back is not a solution anymore. what will happen?
2. if the bike is so old that cannot find orgi pipe, what will happen?
3. if the rider install a better quality, a more silent pipe. what will happen?


What bike u talking bout??even a c70 can get a replace for their pipes-haha..
more silent pipe means much more better la when u get stop by tp's..
if ur pipe no sound better sia..haha...
if so hard to find this n that then i suggest get a new bike-:cheers:
no offence dude!

ghost04
28-01-2009, 07:13 PM
i use legal pipe without baffle. i will always take out.
either i use legal pipe without baffle or i use a non-legal pipe,
i will not tong my original pipe..sound not nice.

schwein.bissen
15-02-2009, 06:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/jookhai/sbf/LoudPipe.jpg
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/jookhai/sbf/LoudPipe.jpg)

Simmz
19-03-2009, 05:02 AM
Aiya.. Like wad always sillyporean always says.. You can do anything... Just don't get caught...

kurarensu
19-03-2009, 06:55 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/jookhai/sbf/LoudPipe.jpg
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/jookhai/sbf/LoudPipe.jpg)

this one like taken @ ahwee leh.. cos ahwee there got the mudguard flap tat says loud pipe save lifes heee

kittosoft
20-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Some man in white could not even see the difference in stock and after market exhaust...

i got into trouble with my old scrambler once and it was stock... made a big issue at the road block for about 30mins and then they finally let me off... singapore TP? BS..:sian:

they should be catching those drivers that drive without any care for others on the road:dot:

F|rdAuZ
01-04-2009, 09:48 PM
i remove the sliencer/baffle ...the next day kana cuaght liao on my LV!!!:dot:

LV without baffle...sound :thumb:

Chaoz
24-09-2009, 10:34 PM
Some man in white could not even see the difference in stock and after market exhaust...

i got into trouble with my old scrambler once and it was stock... made a big issue at the road block for about 30mins and then they finally let me off... singapore TP? BS..:sian:

they should be catching those drivers that drive without any care for others on the road:dot:

I've heard of stories of ROV asking some guy riding PGM if he mod his pipe. How come one side higher than the other side.

MC28
26-09-2009, 10:20 AM
Technically normal TPs wouldnt know much nor care less about your exhaust as illegal modification doesnt fall under them, like wise for traffic offence to be done by ROVs.

There was once i manage to fake the TP(WRX) with my Akra bolt on(Without Baffle) but street legal exhaust + cert until the ROV shouted from across the road " Akrapovic, start your bike", TP even told him on my behalf "This one got cert" but nevertheless, was ordered to start my bike & that's how i got my $500 fine. :lol:

Basically there's 2 different fine to my understanding, rules might have change since then.

1) Tampering with a street legal exhaust - Under $100 fine
2) Using a non street legal exhaust - $500 back now, heard it's $750 now

asmi
26-09-2009, 11:02 AM
I believe the TP WRX is an NSmen... not a regular who know nuts about bike :D

MC28
26-09-2009, 11:40 AM
I believe the TP WRX is an NSmen... not a regular who know nuts about bike :D

He's a SGT by the way.. :angel:

And it's a major ops at M.south back in 2007 consisting of 1 rex, 1 rov + many diversion..

And the best part is, my friend's 05 R1 fitted with 2 Micron slip-ons didnt have his baffle in as well but i guess the Akrapovic wording was too great to resist.. :lol:

After i crank up my bike, almost all the TP walk over to see..

btw, correct me if i'm wrong..I believe NSF aint allowed in the Rex..Only SGT(Regulars) and above..

Chaoz
30-09-2009, 11:12 AM
He's a SGT by the way.. :angel:

And it's a major ops at M.south back in 2007 consisting of 1 rex, 1 rov + many diversion..

And the best part is, my friend's 05 R1 fitted with 2 Micron slip-ons didnt have his baffle in as well but i guess the Akrapovic wording was too great to resist.. :lol:

After i crank up my bike, almost all the TP walk over to see..

btw, correct me if i'm wrong..I believe NSF aint allowed in the Rex..Only SGT(Regulars) and above..

suayness... llst

helpmeplz
16-10-2009, 11:16 PM
Today kanna stop by tp for no silencer on my leo vince.. it does comes with cert, does it mean that my fine will be $100?

slutgarden
28-10-2009, 05:55 AM
nsmen can also be in the rex, depending on the situation and event ops.. mostly nsman in rex for escorting purposes only..

not only sgt and above, cpl can also be in the rex, but as a passenger..

most cpl are on diversion (two wheeler) mainly due to them being newbies due to rank..

to zip ard in the rex, you need to go for the course, which is different in normal patrol saloon cars, which is more advanced..

and yeah, normally sgt and above would get to go the course due to experience..

Thoma5
08-01-2010, 01:40 PM
Nsr 150 last time!Was caught speeding by tp at lim chu kang airplane road!They hear my bike very loud n come catch me!Then they charge me for speeding...They aso actually 1 2 call LTA for my pipe and 1 seater!But they see i stress liao and my charge for speeding quite gao luck liao cause need to go court so they neber do tat!

bebear
21-01-2010, 10:49 AM
1st experience, 2006, got stop by ROV in Rex along KJE.
Stop me for random spot check, my KRR, from head to toe obviously theres lots of things to "bill", even my endcan was actually on the left!!. The ROV asked, "This one what bike?? Aprilla huh?? Whoa nice ah..License, IC & insurance please...O.K, ride safely...". God must be watching me...Phew!!!

2nd) 2007 Stop by LTA on bike, he said, "Whoa!!! License & IC, follow me now for inspection!!", I didnt even manage to greet good morning to him.. Total fine + reinspection = 1k++..Everything not pass, even front signal light not passed...

3rd) 2009, stop by the same LTA, this time I'm on KTM, huuhaaahuuuhaaa, follow him for inspection again!! KNBCCB!!... Lucky to escape with Minor fines only. Aftermarket endcan they did not notice... Phew!!!...

Now everything change to stock..had enough of fines, reinspection etc etc...
Worst of all unnecessary waste of moolah...

mak
21-01-2010, 06:15 PM
1st experience, 2006, got stop by ROV in Rex along KJE.
Stop me for random spot check, my KRR, from head to toe obviously theres lots of things to "bill", even my endcan was actually on the left!!. The ROV asked, "This one what bike?? Aprilla huh?? Whoa nice ah..License, IC & insurance please...O.K, ride safely...". God must be watching me...Phew!!!

2nd) 2007 Stop by LTA on bike, he said, "Whoa!!! License & IC, follow me now for inspection!!", I didnt even manage to greet good morning to him.. Total fine + reinspection = 1k++..Everything not pass, even front signal light not passed...

3rd) 2009, stop by the same LTA, this time I'm on KTM, huuhaaahuuuhaaa, follow him for inspection again!! KNBCCB!!... Lucky to escape with Minor fines only. Aftermarket endcan they did not notice... Phew!!!...

Now everything change to stock..had enough of fines, reinspection etc etc...
Worst of all unnecessary waste of moolah...

haha, power lah u

SantaCros
26-01-2010, 10:13 PM
pls off topic here, i really nid help. My demerit points is 0 points laio. meaning cannot minus anymore or will gantong..

I wish to knw, parking on curb. what is the charge n summon like, got demerit pts? ty

SantaCros
26-01-2010, 10:18 PM
..........

MC28
27-01-2010, 03:31 PM
pls off topic here, i really nid help. My demerit points is 0 points laio. meaning cannot minus anymore or will gantong..

I wish to knw, parking on curb. what is the charge n summon like, got demerit pts? ty

$70 summon without demerit pts...

taaouicha
28-01-2010, 01:25 PM
Technically normal TPs wouldnt know much nor care less about your exhaust as illegal modification doesnt fall under them, like wise for traffic offence to be done by ROVs.

There was once i manage to fake the TP(WRX) with my Akra bolt on(Without Baffle) but street legal exhaust + cert until the ROV shouted from across the road " Akrapovic, start your bike", TP even told him on my behalf "This one got cert" but nevertheless, was ordered to start my bike & that's how i got my $500 fine. :lol:

Basically there's 2 different fine to my understanding, rules might have change since then.

1) Tampering with a street legal exhaust - Under $100 fine
2) Using a non street legal exhaust - $500 back now, heard it's $750 now

wait a sec, if u remove the baffle on a street legal exhuast don't that fall under [ tampering with a street legal exhaust ] ?

zyrofillica
02-02-2010, 02:31 PM
are there ROV stationed at the inspection centres? if i try to go inspection with a non legal pipe and the inspectors find out is it will refer to ROV or they only fail me and ask me to come back with ori pipe.

sibingai
02-02-2010, 04:10 PM
way back in 2006.. was riding my k3 .w akrapovic race titanium header n akrapovic endcan (legal) but without baffle.

while gng to werk frm ECP to AYE. i was on low gear high rev mode sumore under bridge..wooohhooo. .saw ROV 52 at AYE.cannot run......he saw(more to hear actually) me frm far liao. kena stopped.......

'IC,License n insurance'.... ok come follow me inspection'
went to Ayer rajah Inspection centre (beside my office building) DUH!!!...

kena fine total $1.3k. for exhaust,header,signal lights(frnt n back),headlite,num plte holder, num plate lamp,num plate,legal pipe not inspected(hw lame can tat be..hahahah)....

the next day... just imagine i tio again,


by the same person,same place,same procedure and abt the same time~~ :faint::faint::faint::faint::faint::faint::faint:

aRcHeR
02-02-2010, 05:28 PM
1st experience, 2006, got stop by ROV in Rex along KJE.
Stop me for random spot check, my KRR, from head to toe obviously theres lots of things to "bill", even my endcan was actually on the left!!. The ROV asked, "This one what bike?? Aprilla huh?? Whoa nice ah..License, IC & insurance please...O.K, ride safely...". God must be watching me...Phew!!!

2nd) 2007 Stop by LTA on bike, he said, "Whoa!!! License & IC, follow me now for inspection!!", I didnt even manage to greet good morning to him.. Total fine + reinspection = 1k++..Everything not pass, even front signal light not passed...

3rd) 2009, stop by the same LTA, this time I'm on KTM, huuhaaahuuuhaaa, follow him for inspection again!! KNBCCB!!... Lucky to escape with Minor fines only. Aftermarket endcan they did not notice... Phew!!!...

Now everything change to stock..had enough of fines, reinspection etc etc...
Worst of all unnecessary waste of moolah...

since when ROV go around in rex?

aRcHeR
02-02-2010, 05:37 PM
way back in 2006.. was riding my k3 .w akrapovic race titanium header n akrapovic endcan (legal) but without baffle.

while gng to werk frm ECP to AYE. i was on low gear high rev mode sumore under bridge..wooohhooo. .saw ROV 52 at AYE.cannot run......he saw(more to hear actually) me frm far liao. kena stopped.......

'IC,License n insurance'.... ok come follow me inspection'
went to Ayer rajah Inspection centre (beside my office building) DUH!!!...

kena fine total $1.3k. for exhaust,header,signal lights(frnt n back),headlite,num plte holder, num plate lamp,num plate,legal pipe not inspected(hw lame can tat be..hahahah)....

the next day... just imagine i tio again,


by the same person,same place,same procedure and abt the same time~~ :faint::faint::faint::faint::faint::faint::faint:

bro, you tio aim by him la.. cause in the morning usually you will see the same vehicles pass the same area everytime..

DaN zI
02-02-2010, 06:21 PM
way back in 2006.. was riding my k3 .w akrapovic race titanium header n akrapovic endcan (legal) but without baffle.

while gng to werk frm ECP to AYE. i was on low gear high rev mode sumore under bridge..wooohhooo. .saw ROV 52 at AYE.cannot run......he saw(more to hear actually) me frm far liao. kena stopped.......

'IC,License n insurance'.... ok come follow me inspection'
went to Ayer rajah Inspection centre (beside my office building) DUH!!!...

kena fine total $1.3k. for exhaust,header,signal lights(frnt n back),headlite,num plte holder, num plate lamp,num plate,legal pipe not inspected(hw lame can tat be..hahahah)....

the next day... just imagine i tio again,


by the same person,same place,same procedure and abt the same time~~ :faint::faint::faint::faint::faint::faint::faint:

wAH!! got appeal etc?den 2ndtime how ? lol .

sibingai
03-02-2010, 12:31 AM
bro, you tio aim by him la.. cause in the morning usually you will see the same vehicles pass the same area everytime..


wAH!! got appeal etc?den 2ndtime how ? lol .

not bein yaya...but i do F him the second time round..he blur.:lol:
didnt issue anything thou....
:lol:

aRcHeR
03-02-2010, 12:34 AM
not bein yaya...but i do F him the second time round..he blur.:lol:
didnt issue anything thou....
:lol:

hahaha.. you F him saying you aiming me right? :angel:

Snoek
03-02-2010, 01:27 AM
The best is keep it stock or legal pipes with cert and pass inspection. safe and sound.

zyrofillica
03-02-2010, 05:25 PM
but if stock pipes do not last long and there are no legal aftermarkets, no choice right? Spend 500 replacing stockpipes every 20k km, might as well one time aftermarket at 400? dilemma!

taaouicha
04-02-2010, 05:54 AM
haha gsxr400/ zxr400 riders would have this problem abt stock exhaust >.>
theres like no legal aftermarket replacement >.>

Snoek
04-02-2010, 09:53 AM
haha gsxr400/ zxr400 riders would have this problem abt stock exhaust >.>
theres like no legal aftermarket replacement >.>

Hmm..like that also no choice. Alot of bikes dun have legal after market pipes also. :thumb:

halid83
16-02-2010, 12:55 AM
wait a sec, if u remove the baffle on a street legal exhuast don't that fall under [ tampering with a street legal exhaust ] ?

YES> Removing the baffles will make your exhaust fall in the category of Tampered/Modified exhaust even if your exhaust is LTA approved with approved registration certificate.

halid83
16-02-2010, 12:58 AM
are there ROV stationed at the inspection centres? if i try to go inspection with a non legal pipe and the inspectors find out is it will refer to ROV or they only fail me and ask me to come back with ori pipe.

If your vehicle fail the inspection for example non legal pipe, the inspector will advise you to bring your bike to get the exhaust replaced to it's original exhaust & return for re-inspection. Whether ROV/LTA wanna stop you or not it's up to them.

taaouicha
16-02-2010, 03:09 AM
YES> Removing the baffles will make your exhaust fall in the category of Tampered/Modified exhaust even if your exhaust is LTA approved with approved registration certificate.

thus it should be a $100 fine instead of a $500 one ...
cause as stated earlier tampered street legal exhaust is only $100 ?
$100 aint bad but $500 or $750 is kinda risky >.>


Technically normal TPs wouldnt know much nor care less about your exhaust as illegal modification doesnt fall under them, like wise for traffic offence to be done by ROVs.

There was once i manage to fake the TP(WRX) with my Akra bolt on(Without Baffle) but street legal exhaust + cert until the ROV shouted from across the road " Akrapovic, start your bike", TP even told him on my behalf "This one got cert" but nevertheless, was ordered to start my bike & that's how i got my $500 fine. :lol:

Basically there's 2 different fine to my understanding, rules might have change since then.

1) Tampering with a street legal exhaust - Under $100 fine
2) Using a non street legal exhaust - $500 back now, heard it's $750 now

DaN zI
10-04-2010, 05:52 PM
its still $500 if u mod ur exhaust ... my fren kanna w/o silencer

KJ.
17-04-2010, 09:52 PM
Hi all just wanna ask if headlight kena how much?

.BlackSun.
29-04-2010, 09:23 PM
$70 for no head light
$30 for never on light

NC39
09-05-2010, 08:08 AM
Hi guys,I got questions.
Do the summon had increase for illegal mod pipes?
Got any points with tat too?
last time back in 2001 I was fine for illegal pipe.
Kena $500. + afew more craps. Best was the guy was my frend(nt anymore)

Will this double if I kena again?
I had jus got my LV pipe. The sound baffle sucks.
Nw itchy backside.

bobiee
28-07-2011, 01:40 AM
$70 for no head light
$30 for never on light

last time i never on the light and caught by the officer in the traffic jam , hopefully they just asked me to turn on the light and everything fine.. ^^

Jehuty
30-07-2011, 05:32 PM
Any tactics to share in evading the men in white?

KeraKing
30-07-2011, 06:01 PM
Any tactics to share in evading the men in white?

wear clear visor, have sidemirrors, have proper numberplates, rear mud guard and chain guard..
dun speed when u saw them.. haha.

wah no headlight only $70?
u mean like put race fairing without headlight? wahh.. quite affordable.. haha

Jehuty
30-07-2011, 06:17 PM
wear clear visor, have sidemirrors, have proper numberplates, rear mud guard and chain guard..
dun speed when u saw them.. haha.

wah no headlight only $70?
u mean like put race fairing without headlight? wahh.. quite affordable.. haha

Haha, all I have, except sometimes I wear tinted helmet because it helps with glare from sunlight and HID lights. Pipe illegal though but my ori pipe gone case, rusted until welding also break and ori pipe is more ex than illegal one. Since I needed the bike to run, I used the illegal one first lo.

f-50evolution
13-02-2012, 09:54 PM
u guys got fine for illegal pipe straight away or you need to wait for letter?

velocity325
23-02-2012, 10:38 AM
a few sceneries..either they take pic here and there ask you go for inspection within 5 or 7 days..or..follow them back for inspection..

idun69
04-03-2012, 11:15 PM
heard rumours all fullsystem exhaust are no longer legal.. Anyone can confirm this?

f-50evolution
17-03-2012, 01:49 AM
heard rumours all fullsystem exhaust are no longer legal.. Anyone can confirm this?
arent shops still selling brands like yoshi fs?

Markopolo
07-05-2012, 10:25 AM
hi, if i have a street legal exhaust, but put fake "silencer" means shorter one.. what would the fine be like?

epk
07-05-2012, 10:29 AM
hi, if i have a street legal exhaust, but put fake "silencer" means shorter one.. what would the fine be like?

Same still $500

Markopolo
07-05-2012, 10:36 AM
are the chances of getting caught high??

WanFazer
07-05-2012, 10:57 AM
are the chances of getting caught high??

Its not bout high or low.. Its either u suay or not only... :)

dragonforce
07-05-2012, 11:29 AM
heard rumours all fullsystem exhaust are no longer legal.. Anyone can confirm this?

i dun believe the rumour.


arent shops still selling brands like yoshi fs?

they can sell, but their defense can be selling not for local street use. like motoworld used to bring in 2 brothers, devil exhaust which were not street friendly here.

darknessfear
26-05-2012, 02:13 AM
hi..i am riding sp. but can i remove my stomach "stopper" but i use legal stock end can?

darknessfear
04-06-2012, 12:58 AM
hello.. can someone help out here please..

ki113r
04-06-2012, 09:41 AM
You can do anything you want, but don't get caught :D

I think 90% of the SP riders out there (including me) don't have stock stomach. Should be safe ba :D

wait4me
04-06-2012, 07:45 PM
hi..i am riding sp. but can i remove my stomach "stopper" but i use legal stock end can?can .. of coz can , why cannot

darknessfear
05-06-2012, 07:15 PM
You can do anything you want, but don't get caught :D

I think 90% of the SP riders out there (including me) don't have stock stomach. Should be safe ba :D
eh thanks man.. but isit good? currently my pipe.. not legal. but stomach havent tong. but the sound how? got tp catch you before?



can .. of coz can , why cannot
no la i mean endcan the pipe hahaha...

wait4me
05-06-2012, 11:03 PM
as long as not chamber pipe , hard to detect wan

darknessfear
06-06-2012, 01:38 PM
as long as not chamber pipe , hard to detect wan

you know the reason why i asked...

















































247321
because of this. lol.. untill i was introduced to go remove my stomach stopper. then change back to stock.

ki113r
06-06-2012, 04:04 PM
you know the reason why i asked...
247321
because of this. lol.. untill i was introduced to go remove my stomach stopper. then change back to stock.

Nice end can...

darknessfear
07-06-2012, 06:13 AM
Nice end can...
that will attract TP... anyway changed back to stock pipe.. stomach exhaust stopper cut open sand and removed... next is to take out my stock can silencer..

Sharkboy
07-06-2012, 01:21 PM
you know the reason why i asked...







































247321
because of this. lol.. untill i was introduced to go remove my stomach stopper. then change back to stock.


nice endcan there. that one sure will be radar for the men in white. too obvious though......

ki113r
07-06-2012, 01:50 PM
8 years ago, I had a modified endcan without Honda wordings, just a plain chrome wrap around it. TP stopped me & rev my bike (it was super loud) but he did not catch my exhaust. Only fined me $50 for tinted visor.

darknessfear
07-06-2012, 06:02 PM
nice endcan there. that one sure will be radar for the men in white. too obvious though......
i was using that bike. was at right lane at PIE.. 1 TP ride pass me and stare at me while moving for 2 seconds, then start lane splitting. i follow him also lane split. i was very lucky lol... but now i using stock pipe.. but my exhaust stomach removed the stopper and decarbonize and sand inside..


8 years ago, I had a modified endcan without Honda wordings, just a plain chrome wrap around it. TP stopped me & rev my bike (it was super loud) but he did not catch my exhaust. Only fined me $50 for tinted visor.

they will ask you to rev... jia lat. but aiya my sp ugly nobody care one lah..

glassie
23-06-2012, 01:39 AM
Hi all just got stopped by Lta today at pasir ris near white sands. Was riding a super 4 as a subrider with gpr end can. I had the gpr cert but the diffuser is removed. He took down all information and pictures of myths bike and told me to go for inspection the next day in the current condition. Was told to be prepared to pay summon and install back the diffuser. Any advice how should I go about it like fitting it back before going for inspection? Can I still ride it to get inspected? Also the owner which was my friend had no idea where he kept the diffuser. Can I be able to get it in the market? How much would I likely have to pay for the summon? Please advice, thanks a lot!

JbAtRaCeR
23-06-2012, 06:54 PM
Hi all just got stopped by Lta today at pasir ris near white sands. Was riding a super 4 as a subrider with gpr end can. I had the gpr cert but the diffuser is removed. He took down all information and pictures of myths bike and told me to go for inspection the next day in the current condition. Was told to be prepared to pay summon and install back the diffuser. Any advice how should I go about it like fitting it back before going for inspection? Can I still ride it to get inspected? Also the owner which was my friend had no idea where he kept the diffuser. Can I be able to get it in the market? How much would I likely have to pay for the summon? Please advice, thanks a lot!

Gpr agent would be excel cycle if i'm not wrong.. Fine will be $500..first timer can try appeal..should get discount if your reason is acceptable..if get appeal be good after that...dont remove the diffuser..only place you can remove it is on the track or in malaysia soil...

ticks
25-06-2012, 09:24 PM
Hi all just got stopped by Lta today at pasir ris near white sands. Was riding a super 4 as a subrider with gpr end can. I had the gpr cert but the diffuser is removed. He took down all information and pictures of myths bike and told me to go for inspection the next day in the current condition. Was told to be prepared to pay summon and install back the diffuser. Any advice how should I go about it like fitting it back before going for inspection? Can I still ride it to get inspected? Also the owner which was my friend had no idea where he kept the diffuser. Can I be able to get it in the market? How much would I likely have to pay for the summon? Please advice, thanks a lot!

Nb. Sound so yaya the fella.


Ride safe people!!

JbAtRaCeR
27-06-2012, 11:21 AM
Nb. Sound so yaya the fella.


Ride safe people!!

Not ride safe bro..more of ride legal..:)

ticks
27-06-2012, 01:38 PM
Not ride safe bro..more of ride legal..:)

No la. Still ride safe. Kena whack injured got money also cannot settle. if ride legal kena summon still can use money/time to settle. Hehe


Ride safe people!!

peterlim34
29-11-2012, 07:50 AM
Newbie here,what is diffuser?Is it the front cat after the header? Thought of de-cat later......Street legal end can only sound nice but no power improve caz the front is BLOCKED!Getting legal end can for around 1K is a waste of money.....Full system is not approve by LTA.

Beve3rly
29-11-2012, 08:52 AM
Hopefully should be ok..
http://www.rxor.info/01.jpghttp://www.rxor.info/22.jpghttp://www.rxor.info/8.jpg
http://www.rxor.info/03.jpghttp://www.rxor.info/23.jpghttp://www.sbqg.info/21.jpghttp://www.ryzu.info/9.jpg

peterlim34
30-11-2012, 06:08 AM
So de-cat no problem,is it?The cat is still there but inside is empty lor.Anyone tried before? Any reviews?

JbAtRaCeR
30-11-2012, 10:02 AM
So de-cat no problem,is it?The cat is still there but inside is empty lor.Anyone tried before? Any reviews?

From what i know once decat your exhaust gas emmission will shoot up over the legal limit...in LTA context "its illegal"...

ticks
02-12-2012, 12:14 AM
So de-cat no problem,is it?The cat is still there but inside is empty lor.Anyone tried before? Any reviews?

There are loads of bikes running around with decat exhaust. And I'm sure they pass their inspection too.

There are differing limits for new vs. used exhaust sound level from what I gather from the bike inspector. Used exhaust have a higher allowable noise level as expected when insulation wear out. I guess the same might be the case for emissions.

ticks
02-12-2012, 12:58 AM
So de-cat no problem,is it?The cat is still there but inside is empty lor.Anyone tried before? Any reviews?

There are loads of bikes running around with decat exhaust. And I'm sure they pass their inspection too.

There are differing limits for new vs. used exhaust sound level from what I gather from the bike inspector. Used exhaust have a higher allowable noise level as expected when insulation wear out. I guess the same might be the case for emissions.

SPINERGY
02-12-2012, 12:18 PM
Harley Davidson with their deafening sound are acceptable compared to the other illegal pipes. Harley Davidson paid enough money to LTA for their product patent to be legalize in our road usage while our illegal and aftermarket pipes manufacturers does not.

michael_25
02-12-2012, 05:09 PM
HD dont pay to LTA and if u realise that now more harley are back to quiet mode.

SPINERGY
11-12-2012, 12:56 AM
Each time I see HD bikes, its their exhaust noise that comes first. I dunno la if now they all became Japanese bikes..

static369
19-12-2012, 10:55 AM
Good morning fellow riders,

I just want to clarify some issues with full systems. Seems that full systems regardless of it being legal or illegal, is not allowed for bikes anymore?
If it's true then how can bikes shops be even selling full systems? I'm not sure of this "new" law but just want to clarify them. Thank you guys.

PS I just heard this "news" from word of mouth. Do not flame me. :D

Markopolo
19-12-2012, 11:35 AM
I was stopped by lta he asked to check cert for full system. So I say its still allowed

wait4me
20-12-2012, 11:34 AM
Good morning fellow riders,

I just want to clarify some issues with full systems. Seems that full systems regardless of it being legal or illegal, is not allowed for bikes anymore?
If it's true then how can bikes shops be even selling full systems? I'm not sure of this "new" law but just want to clarify them. Thank you guys.

PS I just heard this "news" from word of mouth. Do not flame me. :Das long as inspected /lta approval and with certs . they are allowed..
u thnk they wanna let go this money earning procedure ? so many cars all also change exhaust ..

nenek
20-12-2012, 05:42 PM
Good morning fellow riders,

I just want to clarify some issues with full systems. Seems that full systems regardless of it being legal or illegal, is not allowed for bikes anymore?
If it's true then how can bikes shops be even selling full systems? I'm not sure of this "new" law but just want to clarify them. Thank you guys.

PS I just heard this "news" from word of mouth. Do not flame me. :D

Yeah i heard the same thing too. I think its better if we clarify with the authorities ourselves. Clear the air a little bit.

SPINERGY
21-12-2012, 03:26 PM
Visit LTA website. Its obvious that those pipes are still legal. If our government decided to make it illegal then I will vote for the party which makes it legal.

kinwei
21-12-2012, 05:05 PM
As long it a street legal full system with proper certificate, it is allowed.

Markopolo
08-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Hi guys, i was stopped by LTA recently, Mine is a full system leovince legal. But my full booklet is with bike shop, den they only photocopied a few pages of the book, namely front back and the stamps. So LTA say that doesnt prove that the bike is street legal, he say he take some photos go back check if the systems says this is legal. So being quite confident, that the pipes are legal, i waited. 2-3 weeks later i received my letter to go for inspection, saying my bike was reported and ask me to go inspection to see if it is in working condition. Anybody encounter such things before? i scared they will fail my street legal pipes. And anyway, dont have full cert can go for inspection? bikeshop very ma fan sia.. ask me to wait for finance side as they kept it.. I cannot wait already sia.. zzz

T.D.C
29-01-2013, 04:36 PM
Hi guys, i was stopped by LTA recently, Mine is a full system leovince legal. But my full booklet is with bike shop, den they only photocopied a few pages of the book, namely front back and the stamps. So LTA say that doesnt prove that the bike is street legal, he say he take some photos go back check if the systems says this is legal. So being quite confident, that the pipes are legal, i waited. 2-3 weeks later i received my letter to go for inspection, saying my bike was reported and ask me to go inspection to see if it is in working condition. Anybody encounter such things before? i scared they will fail my street legal pipes. And anyway, dont have full cert can go for inspection? bikeshop very ma fan sia.. ask me to wait for finance side as they kept it.. I cannot wait already sia.. zzz

Markopolo.. in your post I can't figure if you're asking about your bike or pipe being street legal:
"...So LTA say that doesnt prove that the bike is street legal..."
"...So being quite confident, that the pipes are legal,..."
"...saying my bike was reported and ask me to go inspection to see if it is in working condition..."
"... i scared they will fail my street legal pipes..."

Pardon me if I'm misconstrued what you're trying to ask here.. but if you're asking about your pipe being street lega all along, perhaps I can help.

call LTA hotline for more precise info on what paperwork is needed,
what I'm stating below is from what I can recall.

Firstly, go to your bike shop (& if they really can't or don't wanna help, go to Gmax)
-get the tech spec(incl. blueprint) of the exhaust
-get the paper that states exhaust is safe to be used for your exact bike model
-get the shop's cert that it has gone through LTA to get this exhaust street legal
-ensure there're bike shop stamps on them
The bike shops in SG charge a fee for these paperwork. 'Admin Fee'. Yes, each new owner of the bike+pipe
will have to pay the admin fee again when they approach the same shop. It's like admin fee for biker, not one time admin fee for bike+pipe. Crap.

From there, bring all the paperwork to any Inspection Centre for aftermarket exhaust pipe inspection.
The fee is 70-80 cows. Keep the inspection cert. & bring it along whereever you ride in SG to avoid hassles.

Hope this helps and pls share with us if there're changes to the procedures.


Good morning fellow riders,

I just want to clarify some issues with full systems. Seems that full systems regardless of it being legal or illegal, is not allowed for bikes anymore?
If it's true then how can bikes shops be even selling full systems? I'm not sure of this "new" law but just want to clarify them. Thank you guys.

PS I just heard this "news" from word of mouth. Do not flame me. :D

From last I know, full systems that shops bring in and got them Street Legalised with LTA will of course, remain street legal.
As for your 2nd statement.. shop can sell non-legal full systems, like they sell non-legal slip-ons, and non-PSB approved helmets, etc etc... under the context 'for export purposes'.
Example, you wanna go tracking in PG... you don't need street legal pipes nor PSB approved arai full face.

Markopolo
29-01-2013, 05:28 PM
haha Thanks for the reply, but my problem was resolved.

T.D.C
30-01-2013, 02:07 PM
haha Thanks for the reply, but my problem was resolved.

For my knowledge, is the procedure still the same as listed?

mimi_spyder
31-01-2013, 03:55 PM
I also kena stopped by LTA yesterday and just came back frm Inspection. Bike gsxr 600 k7, pipe arrow (legal). I Kenna no catalyzer and mod of muffler. I onli ride for 3 months. Never even touch on the exhaust. Was done by the previous owner.

Markopolo
31-01-2013, 05:00 PM
hi spider... ur pipe full system? or end can

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mzdinolatino
31-01-2013, 07:29 PM
I also kena stopped by LTA yesterday and just came back frm Inspection. Bike gsxr 600 k7, pipe arrow (legal). I Kenna no catalyzer and mod of muffler. I onli ride for 3 months. Never even touch on the exhaust. Was done by the previous owner.

Ooh meaning ur silencer is those short one? Hw much is the fine?

epk
31-01-2013, 07:35 PM
I also kena stopped by LTA yesterday and just came back frm Inspection. Bike gsxr 600 k7, pipe arrow (legal). I Kenna no catalyzer and mod of muffler. I onli ride for 3 months. Never even touch on the exhaust. Was done by the previous owner.

They don't care. If first time, just do down to lta and appeal. Will be reduced to $200.

kinwei
31-01-2013, 08:34 PM
I also kena stopped by LTA yesterday and just came back frm Inspection. Bike gsxr 600 k7, pipe arrow (legal). I Kenna no catalyzer and mod of muffler. I onli ride for 3 months. Never even touch on the exhaust. Was done by the previous owner.

For K7 600, the catz is with the stock end can. So Even if you changed to legal slip on, the catz will be removed. I think only k8 and above catz is with the mid pipe. You can go appeal.

BD
31-01-2013, 09:25 PM
Think i saw more LTA then TP nowadays...
Today tio jackpot.
Was stopped by 3 LTA while riding along sin ming to yishun, means kena stop 3 times...imagine on the 3rd time, "here we go again". :dot: