[Discussion] Technical - Spark Plugs

[Ah Pek]

Which means can use the plug as long as possible till there is difficulty starting/cranking the bike?

Apply to all the plug be it Iridium or regular plug?

You can take the answer as yes...IMHO. There will always be tell tale sign that a plug is about to go..like running on three cyclinder instead of four. Hardly is a case that a bike can't start because of bad plugs..which normally its too wet and this has to do with the carbs. If a plug don't fire well..it has to be the spark plug cable or the step-up coil. If you are the enconormical type..you can even take out the plug once a year..have it clean and the electrode bend to correct gauge gap and reuse...unless, the electrode and core are worn out of form.

When I first used my standard NGK for the PB1...it was a long lasting two years over...no problem...performance and all as usual and I don't ride gentle. I change to iridium when it came out because the specification shows that it's tougher and stronger and provide better sparking due to its thing tips...still using theml date.

we have to understand that the plug is only managing a 100 cc engine for each and it can handle better for today engine design has come a long way.

Again...opinion may differ..and I do know of ppl changing plugs every three months or every tthree oil change....sighhh.

[PaLmEr]

anyone can tell the difference between say... a normak NGK/Denso plug and Iridium?

[Ah Pek]

... a normak NGK/Denso plug and Iridium?

What is "normak"?

[Ah Pek]

The various type..same for NGK except "U" grove from Denso only at the ground electrode.Attachment 57680

[FY****]

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[DVD]

anyone can tell the difference between say... a normak NGK/Denso plug and Iridium?

Riding wise cannot feel much of a different just that iridium plugs are built last longer then the normal ones

[MonoWorld]

omg, am using OWS's regular plug... i jz read the exploded spark plug stories.. anybody else using the OWS regular sparkplug and exploded? guess i m gg to change mine to trusted brands.

[teenwolf]

Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum, and would like to share with u guys my experience with OWS regular spark plug....
Went for servicing last saturday, and take up a servicing package offer by the bike shop consist of EO, spark plug and oil filter for $100..on my ride back to home, observed the response of my bike is difference....lost of power and sluggy response. go back the shop today to retify the problem and found that the newly installed OWS spark plug was the root cause for this problem. the shop offer to change the spark plug and the problem gone at once after the replacement...guess OWS is not compatible with my bike anyway and will stick to my trusted NGK from now on...

[rayhunter]

guess OWS is not compatible with my bike anyway and will stick to my trusted NGK from now on...

which superfour u riding?

[deviLLian]

Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum, and would like to share with u guys my experience with OWS regular spark plug....
Went for servicing last saturday, and take up a servicing package offer by the bike shop consist of EO, spark plug and oil filter for $100..on my ride back to home, observed the response of my bike is difference....lost of power and sluggy response. go back the shop today to retify the problem and found that the newly installed OWS spark plug was the root cause for this problem. the shop offer to change the spark plug and the problem gone at once after the replacement...guess OWS is not compatible with my bike anyway and will stick to my trusted NGK from now on...

actually its not good to change plugs while ya bike is still hot. reason is d plug n d hole has expanded. changing to a new (cold) plug will thus result in improper tightening n so comes many probs. but its a common practice to see pple riding up to their fav bikeshop n have their plugs changed there n then. usually d mechanic will only do d plugs last. maybe d plugs r alrite afterall. but our maintenance practices could be d source of d prob. juz sharing...

[Crazy]

today when i change i notice that there is some oil on the plug's white ceramic? What is the problem there?

[luckystar]

Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum, and would like to share with u guys my experience with OWS regular spark plug....
Went for servicing last saturday, and take up a servicing package offer by the bike shop consist of EO, spark plug and oil filter for $100..on my ride back to home, observed the response of my bike is difference....lost of power and sluggy response. go back the shop today to retify the problem and found that the newly installed OWS spark plug was the root cause for this problem. the shop offer to change the spark plug and the problem gone at once after the replacement...guess OWS is not compatible with my bike anyway and will stick to my trusted NGK from now on...

OWS regular spark plug fouled.... so wat brand are u using now? ever tried the OWS iridium?

[teenwolf]

mine is vtec 1, never encounter something like this b4 even with normal NGK so might as well stick with it fr now on...just treat this as lesson learn...
OWS iridium? no, never use this b4 as I'm quite happy NGK performance...

[Blackbeauty69]

i'm now using ows iridium spark plug.. it's awesome to me.. engine more smooth! change at unique got the package eo(ows can't rmbr full/semi), oil filter and ows iridium spark plug cost me $100. good deal i feel the diff.

[FY****]

changed to denso few weeks ago at one shop, feels loss in power and unstable idealing, then change to NGK Iridium recently by DIY, now idealing good and much improvement gained from top end, 6k above pick up much faster than before......i think change plug when hot is no good as engine treads had expanded

[Cookbird]

Yo guys,

may i know how to change spark plug DIY? as in things to loosen,remove,etc to access the spark plug...

many thanks in advance...

[ZERO_shift]

Questions!

My bike is NSR 150.Is denso iridium spark plug is good to use on my bike in what sense and how long will it last at least?

[Ah Pek]

Questions!

My bike is NSR 150.Is denso iridium spark plug is good to use on my bike in what sense and how long will it last at least?

Because of iridium material which is so much harder and stronger than the nromal nickle...the manufacturer can use laser technique to construct a thinner core which gives better concentrated sparking. Don't expect increase in horsepower or fc etc..just smoother ride as combustion is more efficient (no that this does not increase your fc).


The above are what is said in their "white paper".

As to how long you can use it...
Iridium spark plugs claim to be 7 times stronger and 12 times harder (subjected to different brand) but do take that with a pinch of salt.

I used my for nearly a year..ride regular and most time real hard (red zone friendly)..surprise to find the wear and tear is quite unsatisfactory..that needle tip core was almost worn out..than again..am happy with it because it has provided me the "Go!!!!!!!" I want when I want it...but at a higher price. So..if you asked me how long..if you ride your ride like a gentle..take my reference and times it with 3 or more

[limsn65]

Wonder if any of u guys experienced this problem with OWS Iridium. I fixed the plug 2-3 months ago and more than 2 weeks ago I experienced strange sound. Check with mechanics cant find the problem. Until I DIY my Iridium plugs and found one of the plug Iridium tip is missing.. The sharp needle like tip which supposed to be the hardest element in the Iridium plus is not there. I hope the iridium tip ends up out through the exhaust. After changing to NGK Iridium, the strange sound from my engine was gone. I've wrote twice to UM to verify this problem but till now no reply yet..

Here are some pic,

[Killer75]

I m also using OWS iridium plugs, so far no problem and in fact after changing to the OWS iridium my bike runs smoother than before.

[SMR]

From left to right:-
Broken OWS Iridium spark plug, normal used OWS Iridium spark plug, New NGK Iridium spark plug.

This picture shows what happened to my OWS Iridium spark plug after 12,000km of usage.

Disclaimer: I'm just sharing my experience with OWS spark plugs and nothing against any parties.

[Ah Pek]

From left to right:-
Broken OWS Iridium spark plug, normal used OWS Iridium spark plug, New NGK Iridium spark plug.

This picture shows what happened to my OWS Iridium spark plug after 12,000km of usage.

Disclaimer: I'm just sharing my experience with OWS spark plugs and nothing against any parties.

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[Ah Pek]

Wonder if any of u guys experienced this problem with OWS Iridium. I fixed the plug 2-3 months ago and more than 2 weeks ago I experienced strange sound. Check with mechanics cant find the problem. Until I DIY my Iridium plugs and found one of the plug Iridium tip is missing.. The sharp needle like tip which supposed to be the hardest element in the Iridium plus is not there. I hope the iridium tip ends up out through the exhaust. After changing to NGK Iridium, the strange sound from my engine was gone. I've wrote twice to UM to verify this problem but till now no reply yet..

Here are some pic,

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[gwzc_mk2]

Wonder if any of u guys experienced this problem with OWS Iridium. I fixed the plug 2-3 months ago and more than 2 weeks ago I experienced strange sound. Check with mechanics cant find the problem. Until I DIY my Iridium plugs and found one of the plug Iridium tip is missing.. The sharp needle like tip which supposed to be the hardest element in the Iridium plus is not there. I hope the iridium tip ends up out through the exhaust. After changing to NGK Iridium, the strange sound from my engine was gone. I've wrote twice to UM to verify this problem but till now no reply yet..

Here are some pic,

about the OWS iridium spark plug, i heard from my mech dat he had some S4s which had to overhaul cos the tip fell into the combustion chamber and melted there.

and got once he show me a freshly taken out OWS spark plug from a S4 which the metal before the tip had became loose. any more stress to it would cause it to come loose. heng the fella took his ride to the mech for a complete servicing before going on his touring trip

[Ah Pek]

about the OWS iridium spark plug, i heard from my mech dat he had some S4s which had to overhaul cos the tip fell into the combustion chamber and melted there.

and got once he show me a freshly taken out OWS spark plug from a S4 which the metal before the tip had became loose. any more stress to it would cause it to come loose. heng the fella took his ride to the mech for a complete servicing before going on his touring trip

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[kurarensu]

i bought iridium sparkplug($12/each) from lab.. they gave me the NGK one.. i tried for few days.. i find that the plugs sucks and no power.. my normal denso plugs perform much better.. today i went to purchase the new denso normal plugs.. $5/each only.. the power is way better..

now i wanna sell away my ngk iridium but i think 1plug might be spoil.. i only run less than 500km mileage sia.. anyone wants? sell u $20 can liao.. i wanna earn back my normal plug price =)

who interested can pm me i send u the pics.. i jus wanna sell for some $.. sian..

[4D~ToTo~Big Sweep]

LAB some items abit chiong 1 sia
Upz 4 your salez

[Qrisx]

aiyo... so far i heard alot of bad reviews for ows iridium i scared liou... but i heard denso iridium is good? the difference from those $5 denso plug and iridium is when u high rev. the $5 will find it hard to rev after 6 or at least slower...

issit true???

[limsn65]

i bought iridium sparkplug($12/each) from lab.. they gave me the NGK one.. i tried for few days.. i find that the plugs sucks and no power.. my normal denso plugs perform much better.. today i went to purchase the new denso normal plugs.. $5/each only.. the power is way better..

now i wanna sell away my ngk iridium but i think 1plug might be spoil.. i only run less than 500km mileage sia.. anyone wants? sell u $20 can liao.. i wanna earn back my normal plug price =)

who interested can pm me i send u the pics.. i jus wanna sell for some $.. sian..

I think u or the mechanic did not screw in the plug fully. When plug are not screw in full the combustion it not full thus cos plug fouling on one or more cylinder.. or either lost of compression..

[Ah Pek]

aiyo... so far i heard alot of bad reviews for ows iridium i scared liou... but i heard denso iridium is good? the difference from those $5 denso plug and iridium is when u high rev. the $5 will find it hard to rev after 6 or at least slower...

issit true???

Very true indeed...right on! Denso best and best in hi-rpm performance.

[4D~ToTo~Big Sweep]

Wonder if any of u guys experienced this problem with OWS Iridium. I fixed the plug 2-3 months ago and more than 2 weeks ago I experienced strange sound. Check with mechanics cant find the problem. Until I DIY my Iridium plugs and found one of the plug Iridium tip is missing.. The sharp needle like tip which supposed to be the hardest element in the Iridium plus is not there. I hope the iridium tip ends up out through the exhaust. After changing to NGK Iridium, the strange sound from my engine was gone. I've wrote twice to UM to verify this problem but till now no reply yet..

Here are some pic,

Shyt... its happening on me... change the plugs 2 weeks ago... then 2day while riding i open Vtec,,, this loud weird sound came out from engine...
Freaks me out man!!!
Now how leh>???

[4D~ToTo~Big Sweep]

where can i get budget Iridium plugs>???

[limsn65]

where can i get budget Iridium plugs>???

Use only trusted brand NGK or Denso.. Bought mine for $58 for 4 nos. NGK IX Iridium at shop right opposite Regina (Jln Besar) $15 each.. Dun remember the name of the shop. Bos quite helpful and friendly...

[4D~ToTo~Big Sweep]

Should i go back 2 UM 2 verify this problem>???

[limsn65]

Should i go back 2 UM 2 verify this problem>???

Dun waste your time.. I've send 2 email to UM before I posted my problem here. No reply yet. Obviously true as many already reply to my tread with same problem..

[e|ement]

haha mine oso kana like tt same problem

the tip drop into the hole and the spark plug like break into two part

no use de la....heng suay de la

[4D~ToTo~Big Sweep]

HAiz... I will not use that Brand again...
How much will 1 normal spark plug cost>???

[F|rdAuZ]

Guys,if buy sparkplug at JB and DIY cheap anot?There sell same sparkplug as in spore right?

[F|rdAuZ]

guys..any help

[kurarensu]

aiyo... so far i heard alot of bad reviews for ows iridium i scared liou... but i heard denso iridium is good? the difference from those $5 denso plug and iridium is when u high rev. the $5 will find it hard to rev after 6 or at least slower...

issit true???

dun think so leh.. my $5 spark plugs perform well in high rpm as well?

I think u or the mechanic did not screw in the plug fully. When plug are not screw in full the combustion it not full thus cos plug fouling on one or more cylinder.. or either lost of compression..

cant be.. i always diy my sparkplug.. be it the $5 or the iridium.. no problems with $5.. but big problem with iridium.. tat shows the plug really sarks! *pui*

Dun waste your time.. I've send 2 email to UM before I posted my problem here. No reply yet. Obviously true as many already reply to my tread with same problem..

agree.. got problem u ask them they run away.. my friend brought a shocks there c whether can install anot they nv check properly then install.. then end up the bike the chain keep rolling against the mainstand.. then the bike super stiff.. then park mainstand the bike onli 1sided... nv go back to there ever.

[e|ement]

bro i juz change from iridium to normal ngk spark plug but it feel like lost of power already

any reason for it?

[4D~ToTo~Big Sweep]

bro i juz change from iridium to normal ngk spark plug but it feel like lost of power already

any reason for it?

BRo u already said...

i juz change from iridium to normal ngk spark plug

Thats di reason lor

[Ah Pek]

bro i juz change from iridium to normal ngk spark plug but it feel like lost of power already

any reason for it?

Iridium plugs do not give you extra power..but better sparking where it's most concentrated because of the electrode needle like size. Basically, it provide a more effective spark without wearing out the electrode as easily as nickle ones (normal) does.

if you have proper grounding on your bike..than you do feel a great different..not in power but good response when the throttle is twitch.

[greysnail]

Hi guys,juz asking...anyone here change their spark plug cables from OEM to NGK racing cables?
how much does it cost.Thnx.

[299]

How do we know that our plugs are dying?

[FunkyChicken]

do not use **S sprk plug. screwed my frens bike once, one of the spark plug popped out, left the thread only inside. luckily he replace for free. few mths later, not even 7k of usage, yesterday bike wobbles, the plug condemn again!!!! i helped him to clean the plugs...the tips not evenly worn. stick to iridium denso or ngk platinum. din encounter any problem.

also the **s oil very dilluted. he uses fully syn 10w40, but when i drain the oil, im suprise it was so dilluted. so far used esso, castrol, motul. silkolene, amsoil etcc....never experience it before....kinda scary..

[FunkyChicken]

personally denso iridium and normal denso got diff on my bike. throttle respond, pick up slightly slower and the when u start ur engine....easy to start without throttle.

aniwae how to adjust spark plug gap?

wah my last post in this thread was the first page..2004

[Takeshi1]

long long time ppl nv post on this thread liaoz...


just wanna koe is there realli no diiference between normal plug and iridium plug when installed into S4?

[joey_sfb]

Oh no!... i also have the **S new advance double tip 'prototype' iridium plugs!!!

How long does your friend's plugs last before the problem occurs?

do not use **S sprk plug. screwed my frens bike once, one of the spark plug popped out, left the thread only inside. luckily he replace for free. few mths later, not even 7k of usage, yesterday bike wobbles, the plug condemn again!!!! i helped him to clean the plugs...the tips not evenly worn. stick to iridium denso or ngk platinum. din encounter any problem.

also the **s oil very dilluted. he uses fully syn 10w40, but when i drain the oil, im suprise it was so dilluted. so far used esso, castrol, motul. silkolene, amsoil etcc....never experience it before....kinda scary..

[steel_headz]

Oh no!... i also have the **S new advance double tip 'prototype' iridium plugs!!!

How long does your friend's plugs last before the problem occurs?

Can specify wat is the brand of the plug? So tat we guys can take note....