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    Thumbs down Honda CB400 Super 4 Ver S/Spec 1,2,3

    hi guys,

    been a SP rider for 2 years plus and finally getting my 2A soon. Took so long cos thought 2B enough but apparently, it's not

    Damn noob when it comes to bike but i'm interested in above mentioned title bike, S4 but i don't know the difference between them. I think i got the order right in terms of age Ver S first followed by spec 1 - 3. Can anyone tell me which one more recommended? For eg, FC, pick up, reliability, ave speed, problems et cetera.. Very much appreciated!

    Many thanks.


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    hi bro, we are on the same boat! taking my 2A soon and also choosing S4 for my 2A bike! from what i know about super 4 thru my contacts.

    version S: no vtec, rear tire max width is 140.
    spec 1: vtec opens at around 7k rpm. no HISS
    spec 2: vtec opens slightly earlier. HISS introduced
    spec 3: vtec opens at the same rpm at gears 1 to 5, slightly higher at gear 6, slight change in body work.
    spec 3 revo: efi, slight change in engine, bigger end can.

    there are also older models of S4 like version R and BP (big project)

    for more info, do visit super 4 section, the bros there will know more than i do.
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    to add on, ver s can use 150 rear tyre also. comes with stock brembo brake caliper.
    its project big (pb), trumpet looking exhaust..

    reliability for all are about the same.
    fc, pick up would depend how you ride it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCIM View Post
    hi guys,

    been a SP rider for 2 years plus and finally getting my 2A soon. Took so long cos thought 2B enough but apparently, it's not

    Damn noob when it comes to bike but i'm interested in above mentioned title bike, S4 but i don't know the difference between them. I think i got the order right in terms of age Ver S first followed by spec 1 - 3. Can anyone tell me which one more recommended? For eg, FC, pick up, reliability, ave speed, problems et cetera.. Very much appreciated!

    Many thanks.
    In terms of order

    Project Big(PB) - No vtec
    Ver R - No Vtec
    Ver S - No Vtec(used to ride 1)
    Spec 1
    Spec 2
    Spec 3(the nicest looking one..my 0.000002c worth)

    FC depends on how your ride...figures range from 17-25km/l

    Reliability?
    Well its a honda...that says it all

    what do you mean by average speed?
    My average speed depends on the road condition/traffic conditions...hehe..can be as slow as 10kmh(stopping for traffic light) or 100kmh(cruising along the e'ways)
    It aint me officer...The bike is POSSESSED!!

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    whoa.. thks for all the replies guys.. great info.

    @gearone: my bad.. average speed.. erm crusing speed? riding style i guess im the kind whose all only on personal transport to/fro sch/work. ain't no chionger. wah got so many.. hmmm 17-25km/L then S4 how many litres full tank ah?

    @ahcaibiker: nice info.. where u taking your 2A? scully can go together haha.. btw what's hiss?

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    super4 tank is 15l + 3l reserve.

    cruising speed about 100-120km/h no problem.

    HISS: Honda Ignition Security System. if i remember correctly.
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    i understand that HISS system can only recognize a max of 2 keys, i.e. the spare has to be specially made. Am wondering how does HISS deter theft? or does it not deter theft at all?
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    only keys that are programmed can start the engine. boon siew can program the keys. i think price range is about $60-80.

    all of the above are correct, if i remember correctly.
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    Hiss sounds cool.. hmmm seems like either spec 1 or 2 is a better choice.. just had a look on garage sales.. spec 2 got this guy letting go at 4.6k.. wonder is that a good deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCIM View Post
    Hiss sounds cool.. hmmm seems like either spec 1 or 2 is a better choice.. just had a look on garage sales.. spec 2 got this guy letting go at 4.6k.. wonder is that a good deal
    when the coe expiring? and any other assessories to go along. Do consider all these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    only keys that are programmed can start the engine. boon siew can program the keys. i think price range is about $60-80.

    all of the above are correct, if i remember correctly.
    Hi, thanks for all the tips here. I am choosing between Spec I and Spec II, and it seems like apart from the age and Vtec timing, its just about the HISS ?

    How secure is the HISS? Does it really help deter thefts effectively?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    only keys that are programmed can start the engine. boon siew can program the keys. i think price range is about $60-80.

    all of the above are correct, if i remember correctly.
    Yup the price is around there...
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    for me i like spec1 , firstly becus the vtec open much more later...look can do up like spec3...with 45t spocket my 100km/hr is at around 6.3k by 110km/hr my vtec then open up


    i tried 360km for 15L of petrol

    so far so good, as long as find a good engine one most probably there would not be an issue

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    I May Be Getting A Spec 2 but the tail cannot change to spec 3 tail board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exige View Post
    Hi, thanks for all the tips here. I am choosing between Spec I and Spec II, and it seems like apart from the age and Vtec timing, its just about the HISS ?

    How secure is the HISS? Does it really help deter thefts effectively?
    My nsmate rode a Hyper VTEC, he rides it pretty fast to my point of view and still able to keep the revving constantly at 5,000RPM which greatly improve fuel consumption (not actuating VTEC). Which I find it very good for sillypore rd.
    HONDA has a name for durable engine, close to 10 years (FU plate) apart from expected wear and tear the rest are going well. Lots of aftermarket parts to support this mean machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by isureforget View Post
    I May Be Getting A Spec 2 but the tail cannot change to spec 3 tail board?
    With Vit M anything can be done, saw a VER S with spec 3 tail what else can't be done? But I does witness that SPEC 3 losing its uniqueness, hence many owner trying to figure out how to spice up their ride somehow.
    Overall this CB400 is a unique "4"

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    it definitely use to be my fav ride... but nowadays I can see suzuki trying hard to catch up in the 400cc department... with GSR and its new SV400 (Gladius)!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by isureforget View Post
    I May Be Getting A Spec 2 but the tail cannot change to spec 3 tail board?
    can change. unique motorshop at kaki bukit does it for 200. its the spec3 tail but when the bike signals, half of the tail light is actually used for signalling.

    hlc at kaki bukit(jus beside unique)did a spec3 tail for my friend's spec 1 and it looks great. and the tail light and signal lights are seperated. but the bad thing is, all it takes is to pull a small wire located under the bike and you can unlock the seat.

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    Actually SPEC2 stock tail looks nice itself... maybe change it to LED rear light should bright things up (*if there's one)

    what mesmerize my NSmate when he first bought his SPEC2 was the start up, when key are insert and switch to "ON". The speedo and tachometer needle would sweep across, very "cool" LOL. The underseat storage is another plus point consider roomy many experienced CB400SF riders can vouch for it.

    If you like retro-styling naked bike, CB400SF is definitely a choice... Jap love to make naked road bike in such a manner LOL.
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    I m riding a Super4 Ver R... R = rare.. haha..
    its almost like a ver S lah, just that the shocks are different and supposedly headlights also different.. But my headlight has been changed to the big one.
    Overall, FC for me is near 25km/l

    I would advice gettin a newer one like spec 2 at least, so wun have the wear and tear problems. I got mine ver R cheap, so got a bit more cash to change brake hose and other stuff.
    Spec 3 backlight is the nicest imo.

    Overall a super 4 is a really relaxing ride and its a high rpm performance bike, so dun be nice to bike and change gear at 3~ 4 k rpm... Change at higher like 6 ~ 7k rpm. Even so, i always feel my bike whispering to me "Pus*y.. i am made to go even faster, Pus*y"
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    haha.. great stuff in your bike man
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    Between Spec 2 and 1, Spec 2 can install mainstand while spec 1 can't. Nothing to do with the frame of spec1. In other words, get a spec2 unless u find a spec1 with good accessories on. Why? Because I would love to have a mainstand on my s4, makes it easier to do maintenance..

     

     
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    wow i din know that.. ups for the info!

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    any more good and bad points abt it??? i kind of interested also.. but now looks like the price are on the higher side lei... any recommendation to get lower cost????

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    spec 2 use carburator or injection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zazkaku View Post
    spec 2 use carburator or injection?
    Spec 2 still using carb setup, until CB400SF Revo which is PGM-Fi... Recent Revo engine color replace too, no longer sliver.

    By the way is OEM CB400 Ver S brake caliper "Brembo"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mild_slevin View Post
    Spec 2 still using carb setup, until CB400SF Revo which is PGM-Fi... Recent Revo engine color replace too, no longer sliver.

    By the way is OEM CB400 Ver S brake caliper "Brembo"?
    OEM version s using brembo... rest are using nissin. but nissin can stop e bike as good as that brembo, so its no big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    OEM version s using brembo... rest are using nissin. but nissin can stop e bike as good as that brembo, so its no big deal.
    I thought nissin makes cup noodles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydj View Post
    I thought nissin makes cup noodles?
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    Correct what...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    OEM version s using brembo... rest are using nissin. but nissin can stop e bike as good as that brembo, so its no big deal.
    thanks for the update, I can see that Honda Japan support Nisin brake for most of it existing motorcycle.

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    I thought nissin makes cup noodles?
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    Do jb sell spec 3 tail for spec 1?? I know they do repair work for cb400

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by azzuri View Post
    Do jb sell spec 3 tail for spec 1?? I know they do repair work for cb400
    I'm riding Honda Project Big One from 1994-2012, more than 18 years and just bought a 2011 Honda REVO...
    Of All Other Things to Change... I don't recommend you to waste the money on the tail of Spec 3.

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    JB have spec 3 tail but their workmanship is not that great.

    Try republic motor spec 3 tail conversion. It's really solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy6363 View Post
    I'm riding Honda Project Big One from 1994-2012, more than 18 years and just bought a 2011 Honda REVO...
    Of All Other Things to Change... I don't recommend you to waste the money on the tail of Spec 3.
    Hows the REVO diff as compared to the other specs specifically?
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    revo is FI. the rest is using carb
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    u wont regret getting a S4 period

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    went ard looking at S4. what would you guys recommend? New Revo or Spec 3... Spec 3 no more new machine, all 2nd hand. and revo now has got no ABS at the moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by shingosuetsugu View Post
    went ard looking at S4. what would you guys recommend? New Revo or Spec 3... Spec 3 no more new machine, all 2nd hand. and revo now has got no ABS at the moment
    revo also got 2nd hand. the main buying option for me is the cost. both quite similar except for fuel system. depends on whether u got the cash for revo. revo cost at least 2-3k more
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    FC wise? which system has a better FC
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    Quote Originally Posted by shingosuetsugu View Post
    FC wise? which system has a better FC
    there is a thread on cb400 section on this. i think not much difference. i believe revo to be better because its FI, better tuned for best fuel efficiency
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    Quote Originally Posted by shingosuetsugu View Post
    went ard looking at S4. what would you guys recommend? New Revo or Spec 3... Spec 3 no more new machine, all 2nd hand. and revo now has got no ABS at the moment
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    considering tat new revo machine price 16k++ (i think) urs quite a steal with all the above-mentioned items...would luv to see the pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blahhh View Post
    Between Spec 2 and 1, Spec 2 can install mainstand while spec 1 can't. Nothing to do with the frame of spec1. In other words, get a spec2 unless u find a spec1 with good accessories on. Why? Because I would love to have a mainstand on my s4, makes it easier to do maintenance..
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    before Trade-in to the Bike Shop because they are exporting the bike to third country...
    It's doesn't fix on my REVO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exwhyzee View Post
    considering tat new revo machine price 16k++ (i think) urs quite a steal with all the above-mentioned items...would luv to see the pics
    That Time i ask... Only Machine Price, plus COE, plus 7% G.S.T. should be $17++ with Exhaust $18++ LOL !!!My REVO (6).jpg

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    Hi i selling gd condition vtec 1. If interested , can pm me to know more.

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    ok guys. need ur help. u guys are well informed than me.
    can a s4 version s rack be fitted on a s4 spec1?
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    Hi guys, got a few questions. What is the Ver S top speed and it's FC? I heard the non-VTEC versions such as the Ver S have the best FC among the S4s. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaabberwocky View Post
    Hi guys, got a few questions. What is the Ver S top speed and it's FC? I heard the non-VTEC versions such as the Ver S have the best FC among the S4s. Thanks!
    You are probably right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by link View Post
    u wont regret getting a S4 period
    Very true. My previous S4 never fail me before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaabberwocky View Post
    Hi guys, got a few questions. What is the Ver S top speed and it's FC? I heard the non-VTEC versions such as the Ver S have the best FC among the S4s. Thanks!
    Can hit 140 no problem, top speed I never try before. Fuel consumption is good enough but top end will lose out to vtec machines, exhaust note also.

    Ver s, project big and all are super old bikes. Wiring, brake pump/ hose, cooling system might have problem the eyes can't see so yah. Thing about the s4 is that most user thing they are so hardy and bullet proof, at the end of the day basic preventive maintenance is ignored. Lol

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