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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Ya so means to say they have to cut the shape of the 125 logo before they paste or paste liao then cut the shape? Otherwise cant think of any idea how they do it man... Maybe get it done when I change to xciting 400...depends on how the bike look in my eye then lol

    Erm, yup. Haha. They stick the whole sticker on the whole fender, then cut off the shape of the 125i logo. It's not take out the 125i logo, stick the whole fender, then stick back the 125i logo. The 125i logo is some heavy duty sticker. Very hard to prise off....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Kongfu Panda lol.......

    Herbet says they are going to Malacca for a 1 night stay in Nov. and if wanna go gotta let him know quick cos he don't know if any room left bo..

    But I was thinking what can we do in Malacca??? Been there before and it doesn't really interest me leh...if you going let me know k? am still considering. He say for day trip can always organise go in and have seafood lol...

    As for our long waited Xciting 400, sorry dude no news at all. Dunno wtf is taking this taiwanese to announce leh...maybe they really rectifying or attempting to make the bike even better? Anyway its tested and proven to be more powerful than the 300 lor....estimated date now will be year end

    What interest me when I was there is the pair of carbon rear view mirror with LED. Certainly look very nice lol..

    Whoa Lao!! How can Xciting 400 be worse than Xciting 300?? That's why, those who are waiting for this scoot (I reckon not many in the first place), will have to wait longer and longer lor. Haha!

    All the best to those who are waiting for Xciting 400!
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    Ya lor its going to b a long wait i guess. But i can still wack n enjoy my bike at e moment so no problem lol

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    Right. My fuel consumption dropped to 30.2km/L for the last petrol fill up....
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    Yay! Finally have one Used Majesty 400 Reg 2006 on sale in SBF bikemart for S$5.2k.

    But when I call up if they can do trade in with my DT125i, they say flatly that they don't want Kymco. I was like.... Ok....

    The fact that any bike shop wanna take in Kymco is good liao, nvm the value.... Sian man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    Yay! Finally have one Used Majesty 400 Reg 2006 on sale in SBF bikemart for S$5.2k.

    But when I call up if they can do trade in with my DT125i, they say flatly that they don't want Kymco. I was like.... Ok....

    The fact that any bike shop wanna take in Kymco is good liao, nvm the value.... Sian man.

    Lol...so sad man...but honestly I have learn to accept the fact that no single cylinder scoot can b compared to the twin of SW. In that sense, Kymco is not too far off any of the single cylinder scoot out there.

    Yes, resale price sucks but if you ride it for more than 5 years shd be ok la...hopefully more ppl will begin to accept that actually it's not a bad scoot after all just like what ppl think of SW initially. That said, I'll most probably be switching to the Xciting 400 lol...To me now, it's either back to SW or Xciting 400. I see no point in trying out any other single cylinder scoot and having to spend more unless u talking bout SYM, the jap made price is simply crasy. SW at least is worth it cos of the twin other than that why spend more on something similiar when u can get it at a lower price.

    My 0.002 cents tho..

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    @ parotae

    Ask me to check then disappear? lol....

    Was there this morning again. I found out it is orgainsed by a company for their 30th annivesary and a total of about 100 bikes/scoots(might be less) is participating.

    Based on this alone, it really tempted me to go not bços of the destination but being able to ride in a big big convoy is something i wud like to experience lol...I'll most probably be signing up for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Lol...so sad man...but honestly I have learn to accept the fact that no single cylinder scoot can b compared to the twin of SW. In that sense, Kymco is not too far off any of the single cylinder scoot out there.

    Yes, resale price sucks but if you ride it for more than 5 years shd be ok la...hopefully more ppl will begin to accept that actually it's not a bad scoot after all just like what ppl think of SW initially. That said, I'll most probably be switching to the Xciting 400 lol...To me now, it's either back to SW or Xciting 400. I see no point in trying out any other single cylinder scoot and having to spend more unless u talking bout SYM, the jap made price is simply crasy. SW at least is worth it cos of the twin other than that why spend more on something similiar when u can get it at a lower price.

    My 0.002 cents tho..


    Lol. But single cylinder is easier for maintenance. But of course, if you want smoothness, the more cylinders the better. Gives less strain to the engine.
    I'm guessing the BMW Scoots will launch first before the Xciting 400. Haha. BMW first shipment coming Oct....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    @ parotae

    Ask me to check then disappear? lol....

    Was there this morning again. I found out it is orgainsed by a company for their 30th annivesary and a total of about 100 bikes/scoots(might be less) is participating.

    Based on this alone, it really tempted me to go not bços of the destination but being able to ride in a big big convoy is something i wud like to experience lol...I'll most probably be signing up for it...
    I no disappeared leh. Sorry forgot to reply ha ha. Thanks for the info. Try to go lah, see can squeeze in or not. 2 day 1 night i think.

    Got see Myroad 700 there this morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Hi Bro,

    Where can I find those info u mention on the internet? I cant seems to find any info on the net when I google Xciting 400i...
    Sorry I missed your post. You'll have to google in Chinese to get detailed info on any of the Taiwanese brands. The sales guy (Ah Yong) at Kymco first alerted me to the differences. Did my own research over the last few months. The Xciting is a totally different beast to the DT.

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    It's the start of the raining season now.... Pls ride safely in the rain!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    It's the start of the raining season now.... Pls ride safely in the rain!!
    Aiyah! No ABS. Saw a vid on YouTube with 2 downtown side by side on wet track. ABS really is something.
    Painted wet surface also can stop, no ABS already buang far far away already.

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    Ya. Trust the boss to say ABS model will be too expensive. KNN!! The scoot without ABS he already mark up so high liao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    Lol. But single cylinder is easier for maintenance. But of course, if you want smoothness, the more cylinders the better. Gives less strain to the engine.
    I'm guessing the BMW Scoots will launch first before the Xciting 400. Haha. BMW first shipment coming Oct....
    Now that you know their scoot's engine is mfg n provided by Kymco, would you wanna spend so much to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    I no disappeared leh. Sorry forgot to reply ha ha. Thanks for the info. Try to go lah, see can squeeze in or not. 2 day 1 night i think.

    Got see Myroad 700 there this morning?
    Lol....that's a good 1

    Ya will convince my wife to go...but hor I nid visa from my mom lor cos she's looking after my kids.

    A new Myroad you mean? No leh... only saw Herbert's myroad in servicing nia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemol View Post
    Sorry I missed your post. You'll have to google in Chinese to get detailed info on any of the Taiwanese brands. The sales guy (Ah Yong) at Kymco first alerted me to the differences. Did my own research over the last few months. The Xciting is a totally different beast to the DT.
    No problem la bro..

    Hmmm...I hate reading in chinese but will google for it thx alot!

    Ya. It's totally a different thing and the more I look at it the more I can't wait for it to arrive our shore lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    It's the start of the raining season now.... Pls ride safely in the rain!!
    Wa lao... I just got caught in the rain and my 7 years old raincoat simply cannot liao la....

    Wanted to get the Drymaster Storm Jacket for dual purpose but they run out of green color. Does Anyone know beside Motoworld where can we get RS product. Even online store is fine if they are trust worthy. Thx alot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    Aiyah! No ABS. Saw a vid on YouTube with 2 downtown side by side on wet track. ABS really is something.
    Painted wet surface also can stop, no ABS already buang far far away already.
    ABS is good but I don't like the feeling when activated lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    ABS is good but I don't like the feeling when activated lol...
    How much different in price for xciting 300RI with ABS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodday79 View Post
    How much different in price for xciting 300RI with ABS?
    Sorry Bro but MS did not bring in the ABS version for 300.

    Forgot to check with Herbert if he's bringing in for the 400 tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Now that you know their scoot's engine is mfg n provided by Kymco, would you wanna spend so much to buy?
    No luh. I nvr say I wanna buy BMW scoot. I just say BMW gonna bring in their scoot earlier than Kymco Xciting 400.... Haha!!

    And the engine is still developed partly by BMW, just made with "Taiwanese experience", which is strange considering Kymco don't even sell MyRoad 700 in bulks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    No luh. I nvr say I wanna buy BMW scoot. I just say BMW gonna bring in their scoot earlier than Kymco Xciting 400.... Haha!!

    And the engine is still developed partly by BMW, just made with "Taiwanese experience", which is strange considering Kymco don't even sell MyRoad 700 in bulks....
    I think it goes to show how good/reliable kymco is for the germans to want to partnership with them.

    Prolly cos Kymco marketing concept is wrong???

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Sorry Bro but MS did not bring in the ABS version for 300.

    Forgot to check with Herbert if he's bringing in for the 400 tho.
    Thanks.
    What is the FC diff between 300 and 400? I heard from MA they can email to Kymco Taiwan and order the bike that we wanted.
    Like this can request ABS or not?. Maybe ask MA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    ABS is good but I don't like the feeling when activated lol...
    Wah the feeling damn shiok. You must over come the fear. Vibration is fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    I think it goes to show how good/reliable kymco is for the germans to want to partnership with them.

    Prolly cos Kymco marketing concept is wrong???

    Not exactly. I think BMW just wants to partner with a company that has experience in scootering first, as it's the first time BMW is stepping into scooter segment. As for reliable or not, only time will tell. But from what I'm experiencing, Taiwanese still have some way to go to match the Japanese when it comes to reliability.

    Not that Kymco marketing is wrong. But big cc maxi scooters simply don't have a universal market. Honda has the SilverWing 600 and Suzuki Burgman 650, but they aren't doing well. People around the world rather buy big cc motorbikes than scooters.

    As for Singapore, it all boils down to our local importer and distributor of Kymco - MotorSports as to how they want to market Kymco locally, and actually in the region also.
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    Anyways, the recent typhoon that has lashed Taiwan, dunno if it'll affect upcoming stocks.... The Xciting 400 may be delayed further by the looks of things....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodday79 View Post
    Thanks.
    What is the FC diff between 300 and 400? I heard from MA they can email to Kymco Taiwan and order the bike that we wanted.
    Like this can request ABS or not?. Maybe ask MA...
    As far as biz. ethics is concern, I don't think Kymco will release any of their bike to anybody other than MS since they are the appointed distributor.

    However, just like parallel import, anyone can just get the bike from any agent in taiwan so that's the difference.

    As for ABS, I think MS might get it in if they feel the market is there or maybe can request them to? I can check it out for you since I'm going down most prolly on Monday and will update here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    Wah the feeling damn shiok. You must over come the fear. Vibration is fun.
    Your bike is equipped with ABS? Ya can consider the ABS version if MS bring it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    Not exactly. I think BMW just wants to partner with a company that has experience in scootering first, as it's the first time BMW is stepping into scooter segment. As for reliable or not, only time will tell. But from what I'm experiencing, Taiwanese still have some way to go to match the Japanese when it comes to reliability.

    Not that Kymco marketing is wrong. But big cc maxi scooters simply don't have a universal market. Honda has the SilverWing 600 and Suzuki Burgman 650, but they aren't doing well. People around the world rather buy big cc motorbikes than scooters.

    As for Singapore, it all boils down to our local importer and distributor of Kymco - MotorSports as to how they want to market Kymco locally, and actually in the region also.
    You could be right but as far as what I look at, even if they wanna tap into the scoots market with a company, they have to belief in or trust that the company they work with are up to the mark. Given their name, I don't think they would want to come up with a scoot that would tarnish their reputation right? So the company they choose to work with is very important as well.

    The partnership to me show that BMW have at least some point of confidence in Kymco. Or maybe their proposal was rejected by the japs so much so that they have to turn to the KMT island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    Anyways, the recent typhoon that has lashed Taiwan, dunno if it'll affect upcoming stocks.... The Xciting 400 may be delayed further by the looks of things....
    It could or could not since I believe Kymco factory is in the south whereas the northern part of TW is more badly hurt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Your bike is equipped with ABS? Ya can consider the ABS version if MS bring it in.
    When i first saw the speed sensor ring at the front i was like wah OTR $12K ok what some more ABS.

    Then talk talk with Mr Herbert about to buy i ask about the ABS then he say don't have. I jaw dropped, What! Bo ABS! Then how come got speed sensor ring infront? He say that one is speed sensor. I thought i pickup bull horse lan. Aiyah, no choice already, just buy loh and pay deposit, then the Maxsym a few days later appear at MAH. Haiyah, LL loh.

    All and all it's also a blessing i got Kymco, get to go trips with MS, got to know people who ride similar scooters and also people who i am enjoying trips up north with. So machine aside, all's good Lol. Machine also good lah ha ha.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    When i first saw the speed sensor ring at the front i was like wah OTR $12K ok what some more ABS.

    Then talk talk with Mr Herbert about to buy i ask about the ABS then he say don't have. I jaw dropped, What! Bo ABS! Then how come got speed sensor ring infront? He say that one is speed sensor. I thought i pickup bull horse lan. Aiyah, no choice already, just buy loh and pay deposit, then the Maxsym a few days later appear at MAH. Haiyah, LL loh.

    All and all it's also a blessing i got Kymco, get to go trips with MS, got to know people who ride similar scooters and also people who i am enjoying trips up north with. So machine aside, all's good Lol. Machine also good lah ha ha.
    Lol...I think not too many shops like to bring in ABS version cos demand is still not high. But gradually more n more ppl will b aware of the importance n advantage of ABS la.

    To me it's a good to have but not a need to have kind of thing but thats me lol....

    Btw, I confirm going liao..will be giving Herbet a call tmrw to confirm my booking...In any case u going too please let me know so I know there's someone in that big convoy that i've been talking on sbf lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Lol...I think not too many shops like to bring in ABS version cos demand is still not high. But gradually more n more ppl will b aware of the importance n advantage of ABS la.

    To me it's a good to have but not a need to have kind of thing but thats me lol....

    Btw, I confirm going liao..will be giving Herbet a call tmrw to confirm my booking...In any case u going too please let me know so I know there's someone in that big convoy that i've been talking on sbf lol...
    Let us knw when u ask. Tks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodday79 View Post
    Let us knw when u ask. Tks.
    Yeah sure.

    Btw any bro here live in hougang blk 458? Was passing by on a bus when i saw a white dt/xciting. It looks like a xciting to me but the windshield seems higher than normal. If owner is here can advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Yeah sure.

    Btw any bro here live in hougang blk 458? Was passing by on a bus when i saw a white dt/xciting. It looks like a xciting to me but the windshield seems higher than normal. If owner is here can advice?
    Me AMK... Any news for the ABS version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodday79 View Post
    Me AMK... Any news for the ABS version?
    Not yet la bro.. am going down tomorrow will update soon.

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    According to MS, whether or not they bring in the ABS version depends on the Taiwanese side also. As there hasn't been any final details of the new bike, they can't confirm if they will bring in the ABS version or not. So I guess it's another waiting game.

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    Hais. Fuel consumption dropped to 29km/L for DT125i.... =(
    "---- Trying to lose more weight ----"

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    Hais. Fuel consumption dropped to 29km/L for DT125i.... =(
    Mine clock at 30/l when i top up last nite. Really please with the fc

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    Whoa. Not bad sia.

    Now I a bit disgruntled.... Hmm.... But what's your avg travel speed to get 30km/L? Cos my 29km/L is mostly full throttle from traffic lights and on the expressway luh. Haha. 125cc mah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    Whoa. Not bad sia.

    Now I a bit disgruntled.... Hmm.... But what's your avg travel speed to get 30km/L? Cos my 29km/L is mostly full throttle from traffic lights and on the expressway luh. Haha. 125cc mah.
    Am in my last stage of running in. Average cruising speed on express is 90-100kmh now. But my pick up from traffic stops are smooth and gradual lor cos I don't find the need to ram it and can't now lol....

    I know you've been enquiring on other makes for your 2A which is good. If you wanna go for Majesty or Burgman then you nid to take note of your riding style/pattern cos they are too low for aggressive riding especially over humps. Even my SW is considered low and really have to go slow when I pillion riding.

    On a second note, apart from the dislike that I mention in my previous post, I'm willing to go for the Xciting 400 bços of the pros but of course reliability is still to be confirmed as I dunno if I can ride it for at least 6 yrs and above w/o problem like what I experience from SW. And also the most impt thing is FC. If the Xciting can give 29/L and above, that would be an added bonus.

     

     
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    I'm getting consistent 25km/l since new. Other DT3 owners are getting 27km/l-30km/L+ average.
    Last edited by parotae; 07-08-2012 at 02:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    I'm getting consistent 25km/l since new. Other DT3 owners are getting 27km/l-30km/L+ average.
    Of course alot of factors like weight, riding style, express versus normal roads, etc etc. but 25 is abit low for DT I think. Could it be your clutch problem that is eating up your FC?

    I've read the whole of this thread and know that you face a clutch problem right? Did you went back to MS to rectify the problem? Anyway, once while chatting wif Herbert, I mention about this clutch problem thingy and he says that Kymco have already resolved the clutch problem with a new set instead of using the original. Maybe you wanna check with him?

    To be frank, if I'm getting 25/l I wouldn't be at all happy since our peers is getting at least 28 or more. If the new Xciting can't offer 28/l as Xciting 300 on paper, I wouldn't be bothered to look at it man.

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    Next month is my scoot due date ...any insurance company recommendations ... which plans to apply...any recommendation..

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    Recently the squeaky noise came back. While riding especially slowing down for the hump, i would hear squeaky noise coming from below. I suspected the disc brake or suspension and totally forgot about the full stand. I did not suspect the stand also because i have lubricated it some time a few months ago ha ha. So i didn't bother and continue riding. The squeaky noise got softer and i forgot about it eventually.

    Today, i happen to look at the stand and tried lubricating it. Couldn't find the squeak until i put it on side stand and realize there is a round bumper/insulator. I gave it a spin and the irritating squeak came out. After a few spray of oil and the squeak was gone. Will monitor when i ride again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabung View Post
    Next month is my scoot due date ...any insurance company recommendations ... which plans to apply...any recommendation..
    for me it's always ntuc as it's very convenient for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    Recently the squeaky noise came back. While riding especially slowing down for the hump, i would hear squeaky noise coming from below. I suspected the disc brake or suspension and totally forgot about the full stand. I did not suspect the stand also because i have lubricated it some time a few months ago ha ha. So i didn't bother and continue riding. The squeaky noise got softer and i forgot about it eventually.

    Today, i happen to look at the stand and tried lubricating it. Couldn't find the squeak until i put it on side stand and realize there is a round bumper/insulator. I gave it a spin and the irritating squeak came out. After a few spray of oil and the squeak was gone. Will monitor when i ride again.

    Nice to hear that.

    You're not going to do anything to bring up your FC? I would sure go back to MS if I were you lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Nice to hear that.

    You're not going to do anything to bring up your FC? I would sure go back to MS if I were you lol.
    Problem with NTUC is, you only can go to the workshop they choose not you.
    Kenna once anyhow do as my skipper rare, have to take taxi back as at industrial area. Go back second time then ok. Poor quality spray and can see the sand paper lines under the paint. Sian already go back second time, just collect loh.


    Told Mr Herbert already, he say put a few days to check. They may want to take out fuel system to check. My one new bike leh, take out here take out there wait cannot solve problems come other problems years later because somethings no need to take out but took out cause problems leh.

    Leave everything original until spoil loh. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my rule of thumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parotae View Post
    Problem with NTUC is, you only can go to the workshop they choose not you.
    Kenna once anyhow do as my skipper rare, have to take taxi back as at industrial area. Go back second time then ok. Poor quality spray and can see the sand paper lines under the paint. Sian already go back second time, just collect loh.


    Told Mr Herbert already, he say put a few days to check. They may want to take out fuel system to check. My one new bike leh, take out here take out there wait cannot solve problems come other problems years later because somethings no need to take out but took out cause problems leh.

    Leave everything original until spoil loh. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my rule of thumb.
    Does makes sense but to me I felt being short change since other can go further than mine do. So rather get them to fix it once and for all. The more $$ spent on the long run could well justify any parts if any to me.

    But if you have the intention to change bike, then it's all secondary liao hee hee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongfu View Post
    Does makes sense but to me I felt being short change since other can go further than mine do. So rather get them to fix it once and for all. The more $$ spent on the long run could well justify any parts if any to me.

    But if you have the intention to change bike, then it's all secondary liao hee hee...
    Well, maybe i'll consider now. Mr Herbert even reply me that the Taiwan factory claimed @27km/l. I'm not even close to 26km/l.
    Since warranty going to finish, mind as well go soon.

    He even says "You're the only one complaint, all my customer none came back and complaint."

    You say loh, seems like i am a liar right? Or that i don't know how to ride. The mech even say i switch to miles ha ha. If i can get 25miles/l i tiam tiam liao. Secretly laughing lol.

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