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    Default (diy) spark booooooster

    Some may not know about this product that has been copied over and over and over again with lots of different name.. Power booster, spark booster, spark optimizer, power abuser ignite, acceleration booster with a price tag from spark optimizer 120 to the famous pa ignite 230 bucks.. Some claim their ""breaking technology"" from germany, italy or uk with patent pending.. forever waiting pending for patent that cannot be patent anymore.. To show customer that is a new technology in the market that has already exist ages ago.. If you dont wanna spend money on costly ready made power booster, here is my diy that cost around 10 bucks...

    The main component of the device is the capacitor itself.. About 2 bucks..

    I had a 10000uf lying around but a 4700uf capacitor is enough.. Seen some using a 6800uf..

    Pnp type transistor to-220, MBR1560CT, around 3 bucks

    Not sure whats the use, ampifly?? Hahas..

    Barrier diode 1N5822, 1 bucky


    Pcb Board, 1 buck buck

    To make everything looks cleaner rather than standard spark booster trying to save cost by soldering everything to the wire..

    You need some connectors and good thick wires(please dont use normal skinny wires) as well as some time to solder everything together..

    Solder them all together according to this schematic.. You dont really need the led and resistor.. purely comestic.. Doesnt gain any hp..


    Didnt have time to really take picture of the whole process.. Very busy person with lots of project.. So these are the few pics..




    And this is the finished product

    Next just find a small hobby box to hide it.. Most of the device is dip into resin and wrapped just like that.. Cut cost... Everything also cut cost when the cost is less than 10 percent of the selling price.. The other advantage of their black resin, customer cant take the device apart to see what german cheese technology used inside other than a simple stuff that cost less than 10 bucks..

    For those who wonders, my green is my ground, brown input and the blue output..

    Installation??
    You will need to look for the 12v supply to your ignition coil.. Doesnt do anything for cdi application.. Some is easily disconnected and some you have to cut the wire in order to install.. Once you cut or disconnect the wire connecting the 12v supply and the coil, the blue wire (output) will connect to the wire at the coil, brown wire(input) to the 12v supply wire.. Green?? Just ground it.. Its just connecting the wires in between the wire you just cut or what people say connecting it in series..

    Result??
    Tried on my car, my two friends car, my bike and my test vehicle, cant really feel anything.. So youre saying my device dont work?? I do own a couple of spark booster including the famous and the most expensive one.. Same device.. Same result... Wonder how a same stuff can produce different result.. Wonder whats the result on a dyno..

    Anyway, i have lots of diy to share including my diy chain oiler with fully adjustable 555 timer for drip duration, drip interval wired to solenoid pump(not those windscreen washer pump).. Im using soap pump.. Tiny motor.. If i have time.. I will post all my diy up.. Thanks for taking time to read my diy thread..

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    All information above comes from
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    Upz for u!! DIY King!!

    Do share more of ur DIY details!
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    Just a warning to everyone intending to DIY their own stabiliser ... Watch the capacitor that you use!

    The brand of the capacitor shown above is "LUXON" - a brand that has since merged with TEAPO ... A firm reputed for making failing capacitors: http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18638

    Also, it is dangerous to use a 16V capacitor in a voltage stabiliser for bikes. Rectifiers typically put out up to 15 volts at high RPM's, and in circuit design there is an important concept known as "voltage derating" when it comes to aluminium electrolytic capacitors. A 16V capacitor is very unlikely to last even 3 months without depleting significantly. Google to find out more, because I don't want to post the techie geeky stuff and formulas here. A long-life capacitor of at least 25V should be used instead.

    When a capacitor fails, it does so gradually so the effect of having the stabiliser there "fades away". You will know when after a few months you remove the gadget and feel no difference.

    Also ... When the components are not properly sealed and waterproof, rust will set in over time due to rain and condensation. Next comes short circuits and maybe even a blown ignition fuse while riding.

    A properly-built stabiliser with good components will definitely improve response and pick-up, reduce the amount of engine braking / stress, and on most bikes cause a little bit of fuel savings. But a poorly-built one could lead to the hospital bed or coffin when the engine dies and there's a speeding car behind.

    Do exercise due caution and seek an engineer's help when making such DIY gadgets, because accidents on 2 wheels are no joke.

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    Yes, using a good capacitor is important. You do not wish to catch fire under your seat.

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    Just wanna add that most of the voltage stabiliser sold in singapore are badly made with cheap components and mostly DIY.. So i see no difference in ready built and diy.. Even in power gains, fuels savings or other claims.. Even the raizin in sg is mostly fake with cheap components as well... Ive experience lots of failed vs, it didnt kill the bike or bring me 6 feet under.. Lots of people all over the world is doing it with no problems.. So i say, its safe to diy one..
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    Another thing to add, the luxon was pulled off from another vs made by our fello singaporean..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RageMyDream View Post
    Yes, using a good capacitor is important. You do not wish to catch fire under your seat.
    Yup, good capacitor brands include Nichicon, Rubycon, EPCOS and Illinois Capacitor. Original ones can be purchased in small quantities from Element 14 at Tai Seng Drive (http://sg.element14.com)

    Quote Originally Posted by yinghai View Post
    Just wanna add that most of the voltage stabiliser sold in singapore are badly made with cheap components and mostly DIY.. So i see no difference in ready built and diy.. Even in power gains, fuels savings or other claims.. Even the raizin in sg is mostly fake with cheap components as well... Ive experience lots of failed vs, it didnt kill the bike or bring me 6 feet under.. Lots of people all over the world is doing it with no problems.. So i say, its safe to diy one..
    There are those that make a difference in terms of response, pick-up, engine stress, headlight flicker and slight fuel savings. Although results vary from bike to bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by yinghai View Post
    Another thing to add, the luxon was pulled off from another vs made by our fello singaporean..
    That's disgusting.

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    My apology....
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    Ive tried diy programmable cdi bro.. Sounds like you totally got the wrong person dude.. This diy thread is up for the benefit of others.. Ive also stated if you dont wish to pay, you can diy one.. If you cant diy, go ahead and buy them.. I dont sell..
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    Quote Originally Posted by yinghai View Post
    Ive tried diy programmable cdi bro.. Sounds like you totally got the wrong person dude.. This diy thread is up for the benefit of others.. Ive also stated if you dont wish to pay, you can diy one.. If you cant diy, go ahead and buy them.. I dont sell..
    cool headed dude bro. like the saying goes, it always take two hands to clap. i thought a flaming war is going to start but you actually put out the fire.

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    yinghai is not the guy who you're saying. So who is the guy you're saying?
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    My apology as say at my last sentence.

    Sincerely my apology....... I got the wrong person.... Am sorry....

    Peace out.... Cheers....

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    "I walk up to someone who i think stole my money. I shouted at him, accusing him of stuff, calling him names and all that. At the end of my rant, i tell him that if he is not the person i am looking for, i apologise."

    Seems legit.
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    Chill out guys.. Anyway, i would also like to apologize if im flaming any product in the market.. Anyway, i wonder if anyone knows the very first appearence of this product were sold in sg at around 25-35bucks.. The small red green and blue box?..
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydj View Post
    "I walk up to someone who i think stole my money. I shouted at him, accusing him of stuff, calling him names and all that. At the end of my rant, i tell him that if he is not the person i am looking for, i apologise."

    Seems legit.
    yeah legit..like somrbody wnt to bann me..by using other people hand..
    you feel the hurt...
    trying warn others for the dangers,,
    and no apology or anyting...the administrator has clearr heads..just shut down the poll for banning me..haha...

    and you know what..after doing all the not reccomended stuff...now want to unload the bike..haha....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzyoiler View Post
    yeah legit..like somrbody wnt to bann me..by using other people hand..
    you feel the hurt...
    trying warn others for the dangers,,
    and no apology or anyting...the administrator has clearr heads..just shut down the poll for banning me..haha...

    and you know what..after doing all the not reccomended stuff...now want to unload the bike..haha....


    glad to hear evo has apologised...you got my vote for doing the right thing..
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    Heard that someone requested to break open and expose someone else's booster ? My little worth opinion is , I dun think anyone have to right to ask him to break open and expose his product . if u really can/have proof that his booster is faulty and endangering others rider's safety , I'm sure he dun mind you to go straight to his face and tell him so . Otherwise pls keep all negative comments to Urself as he is also trying to make a living , if u really can't stop flaming and posting negative comment without proof not only on SBF or anywhere . I'm sorry but legal action will be taken .
    Thanks for taking your time to read this .

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    Quote Originally Posted by wind21 View Post
    Heard that someone requested to break open and expose someone else's booster ? My little worth opinion is , I dun think anyone have to right to ask him to break open and expose his product . if u really can/have proof that his booster is faulty and endangering others rider's safety , I'm sure he dun mind you to go straight to his face and tell him so . Otherwise pls keep all negative comments to Urself as he is also trying to make a living , if u really can't stop flaming and posting negative comment without proof not only on SBF or anywhere . I'm sorry but legal action will be taken .
    Thanks for taking your time to read this .

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    A consumer has every right to know what goes inside a product he buys. Yinghai has requested kindly for willing person(s) whom have bought the mentioned product to volunteer to open it up for educational purposes and anyone who isn't willing can choose to ignore him altogether. As for spoiling other's method of making a living, if he is not selling snake oil products he shouldn't be afraid of them being tested.

    Anyone with basic electronics knowledge will understand that these products are made up of cheap materials and simply not worth the inflated + overhyped pricetag.

    I believe the technical discussion in this thread adheres to forum rules and isn't of illegal nature. If you have any reasons to believe that legal actions can be taken against TS, please kindly share with us why is that so.

    (I'm am not associated with TS in any ways and just voicing out my opinion in support of the thread for empowering consumers with some technical knowledge to better make wise purchasing. No offence intended.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1112 View Post
    A consumer has every right to know what goes inside a product he buys. Yinghai has requested kindly for willing person(s) whom have bought the mentioned product to volunteer to open it up for educational purposes and anyone who isn't willing can choose to ignore him altogether. As for spoiling other's method of making a living, if he is not selling snake oil products he shouldn't be afraid of them being tested.

    Anyone with basic electronics knowledge will understand that these products are made up of cheap materials and simply not worth the inflated + overhyped pricetag.

    I believe the technical discussion in this thread adheres to forum rules and isn't of illegal nature. If you have any reasons to believe that legal actions can be taken against TS, please kindly share with us why is that so.

    (I'm am not associated with TS in any ways and just voicing out my opinion in support of the thread for empowering consumers with some technical knowledge to better make wise purchasing. No offence intended.)
    totally agreed.... Wats wrong to know what is contained inside?? If ur product is tested and proven den wats there to be scared? and somemore bring out the "legal action" term again, people here all really like to sue and sue, everything not happy sue, can stop wasting court resources or not.... hear until sian alr..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1112 View Post
    A consumer has every right to know what goes inside a product he buys. Yinghai has requested kindly for willing person(s) whom have bought the mentioned product to volunteer to open it up for educational purposes and anyone who isn't willing can choose to ignore him altogether. As for spoiling other's method of making a living, if he is not selling snake oil products he shouldn't be afraid of them being tested.

    Anyone with basic electronics knowledge will understand that these products are made up of cheap materials and simply not worth the inflated + overhyped pricetag.

    I believe the technical discussion in this thread adheres to forum rules and isn't of illegal nature. If you have any reasons to believe that legal actions can be taken against TS, please kindly share with us why is that so.

    (I'm am not associated with TS in any ways and just voicing out my opinion in support of the thread for empowering consumers with some technical knowledge to better make wise purchasing. No offence intended.)
    Whoever that design this booster used his time and effort to design it. If you were to take it out and compare/judge it, isn't it kind of unfair to the person that designed it? Find out what's in it, then how is he going to gain business from that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyburger View Post
    Whoever that design this booster used his time and effort to design it. If you were to take it out and compare/judge it, isn't it kind of unfair to the person that designed it? Find out what's in it, then how is he going to gain business from that?
    That's why they have patents for a reason.
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    I believe all these product are not patented, trademarked or copyrighted.. Im sure we can tear open and do whatever we want with it..
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    admin wun have asked u to remove the post if he/she find it appropriate . can someone like educate me on why you guys wanna expose the booster ? to prove that the booster is actually not doing what it's said to do ?

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    anw i'm not here to look for a fight or wat so ever , just wanting you guys to educate me why are you doing so ?

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    Er, this is a DIY thread? So if we deconstruct an item to see what is actually in it, as consumers, we can then judge whether we can replicate what is being done or whether there is real quality in making of the product.

    Its like computers years, years back. Compaq, Dell, etc. We bought a unit, removed it to it bits and see how it was assembled together using what parts and what not. As the years go by, we consumers taught ourselves that its better to build a PC on our own as we can get it much much cheaper with a better build quality.

    In addition to that, think of it as 'Choice', the consumer product watch dog for Australians. They buy a product, deconstruct it, test it out and all that and write reviews. Its basically a much better CASE in Singapore. So in this case, perhaps we can get together to look at a product and to see its internals and quality?

    As for myself, i admit that sometimes when i buy electronics and it spoils, i will disassemble it and take a look at its internals. First thing to look out for are the solders, connections, placement and layout of the internals. If it is using electrical tape and glued down with hot melt glue, we can tell its quality compared to one with a specifically designed PCB. I ever have seen a made in China digital camera, many years back, its internals were using primitive PCB, like the kind you can buy at Sim Lim tower and fix yourself. Compared with an Olympus one. So this would be a way to warn ourselves and our loved ones to avoid the brand.

    Many times, large companies purposely design their products so that it would be very difficult to copy. Take for example, a Braun shaver. I have tried and tried to disassemble the shaver, but its not only very difficult. But when i do, one look at the internals and i know its made of superior quality compared to other, much cheaper shavers. There are also specific tools used to open these shavers up and these tools are only available for use by Braun technicians, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wind21 View Post
    admin wun have asked u to remove the post if he/she find it appropriate . can someone like educate me on why you guys wanna expose the booster ? to prove that the booster is actually not doing what it's said to do ?
    I removed the post at my own accord not because its inappropriate or whatsoever but to prevent any further conflicts in this thread.. Lots of people are so curious on how the product works and whats inside that makes the product works.. The differences of all the current booster product.. Was it well worth the money spend?? Everyone wants to know before investing thier hard earn money.. I hope you have a better understanding why this thread is made..
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    ohhh... so all the shop can close down le lohz... expose it and copying ppl's ideas to become your OWN ideas...

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    the way to learn and improve are many..
    it is easier to build on the experience /current design...thn to try to design based on your experience and expertise..fo asimple reason yours are limited..
    thats always a saying..you wont want to reinvent the wheel do you..or when you built a better mouse trap the world is your oyster..

    for thos who think that dismantling the products to figure out how it works and its weaknesses iswrong...than stop using google to do your homework..

    thank you yinghai...i learnt something...today that they are ignoramous and simple people who like to pay high prices for something simple...and that they believe every word that is posted in the internet..
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    if i may add..
    improvement will never stop. for anyone.....if someone eg...can invent something to replace capacitors....than the current design will be obsolete...
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyburger View Post
    ohhh... so all the shop can close down le lohz... expose it and copying ppl's ideas to become your OWN ideas...
    I think more shops are opening due to this product.. They look into this product, replicate it and put it to the market.. breaking new technology with a patent pending?? Whose idea was it anyway???

    Most products are exposed by people to justify the price and its quality..

    Ive explained myself why the thread is up on post 28..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzyoiler View Post
    if i may add..
    improvement will never stop. for anyone.....if someone eg...can invent something to replace capacitors....than the current design will be obsolete...
    Yes, it has already been done. Not to "replace capacitors" but rather to implement better technology that gives customers more bang for their buck.

    Search for Esoteric Systems under the Advertisers' Board sub-forum; do not post queries on products here because this is a Hands-On thread that is meant to be kept clean and for the purpose of knowledge sharing - not argument or advertisement.

    Aside, anyone who has had some basic electronics knowledge will know how the capacitors work to improve things. And also the fact that there is always a small amount of leakage current with electrolytic capacitors.

    How about coming back from a holiday and find that you can't start your bike when going to school, camp or office? If capacitors across the battery were a solution that does not cause more problems, I guess Yamaha and Honda would have done it years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by yinghai View Post
    I think more shops are opening due to this product.. They look into this product, replicate it and put it to the market.. breaking new technology with a patent pending?? Whose idea was it anyway???

    Most products are exposed by people to justify the price and its quality..

    Ive explained myself why the thread is up on post 28..
    No one will spend nearly $100k to patent a product in Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Taiwan and maybe the USA - if it is not something that can be sold to most human beings (e.g. iPhone, Windows OS) or is cock-sure to generate tens of millions of dollars in revenue. If someone claims to have "patent pending technology", run a search with IPOS (http://www.ipos.gov.sg).

    Far too much of this out there ...

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    haha...capacitors are still the main components...for a while i thought wow..no more capacitors failure...haha...
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    Ive been getting lots of private messages asking which pin to which pin to which wire.. For those who are new to schematics, this is what it looks like in basic..



    3 wires, in/out/ground.. Thats all..
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    what about this firestorm coil booster?

    I was thinking to buy firestorm booster for my car. Is it this same capacitor and diode technology? but it is has only 2 wires direct connect to the ignition coil fuse...

    I'm wonder how its working through the fuse line?

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    Its the same but running in series..
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    can you please explain me how is it work in series?

    is it really boost the spark width like their videos shows?

    i want to see the example schematic. dear yinghai do you get any?

    thanx for your reply.

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    Schematic same as this with one additional diode not in circuit.. Input goes in ground..
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    If I really buy firestorm coil booster is that really will boost my engine ignition spark?

    actually what is the benefits from that?

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    All videos will try to make stock looks bad and with the product it looks very good... But ive tested it myself and theres not much difference with and without the product.. The whole objective of this product is too reduce the time for the coil to charge before the next spark..
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    Thank you a lot for the good reply friend yinghai

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    Ying HAI. Your diagram from Peony88 has 1 wire going to ground but the FireStorm 2 wires go into fuse socket and not into ground so how is it you say the stabilizer circuit is the same circuit in the FireStorm???

    You say that the product video and its inventor is making a fake product and selling lies to people who are stupid to buy it.

    I say that you are the one who is telling lies and misleading other people to believe you in your theory of the FireStorm.

    You cant even understand what slwthr said about install to ignition coil fuse which means the 2 wires dont touch or connect to ground. Your voltage stabilizer diagram has 1 wire to ground.

    This circuit is similar to all VS products which must have a wire to ground.

    I SAY YOU, YING HAI, ARE THE ONE TELLING LIES TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK CLEVER BUT YOU JUST SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD HOW YOU REALLY ARE!

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    Product running in series instead of parallel to ground.. you created an account just to post this?..
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    This is to tell you that your knowledge of electronics is so limited that you are so naive to think that the VS circuits in Peony88.com is worth anything at all.

    Yet you are so smart to copy the design of a useless product.

    I use the FireStorm Booster and I know the theory behind the design and it is totally different from your speculation.

    I dont want you to mislead other bikers here with your unfounded knowledge and garbage. The owner of Peony88 website already proved that the VS designs are all useless, so dont mislead others down the path to a useless device.

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    By the way, I own 2 bikes and 3 cars snd I use the FireStorm in one of my bikes and 3 of my cars.

    Dont speculate and badmouth a product if you havent even tested out the product.

    It just reflects on your shallow personality.

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    Are you from their sales?... anyway, i have no bad intention or whatsoever towards all the product in this page.. this thread intention has been repeated.. if you cant afford it, feel free to built them.. i do product testing as a hobby, buy them, test them, break them, replicate them and give to friends to test them.. collecting results and data.. apart from ignition dwelling coil solution to ignition voltage increase to 18v primary secondary coil product, i also deal with testing of tuning chips including diesel tuning chip, programmable cdi, atre, quickshifters and many more.. basically all the little gadget gizmo.. if you think that i lack the knowledge on this particular product, i would really love to know your theory on how this product work, technically...
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    I dont represent them in any way whatsoever. I just dont like to see a wiseguy shoot their mouth off about a device that they know nothing about except to rip it apart and see what is inside.

    There are laws to protect intellectual property and you can be sued in court for replicating the design irrespective of whether the product is patented or not. Why have you not ripped apart any of Haltech or MSD's products and replicate them since these products are so very much more expensive than all those simple useless devices that you have ripped apart or copied from other online websites???

    I was told by the guy who sold to me that it works by resonance which means nothing to me except that it works as advertised by the seller and I am happy with that to buy 3 units for my cars and 2 units for my bikes.

    Why dont you get a unit of this device and rip it apart and see if the inventor will haul you to court???

    If you are not careful in trying to show how smart you are, you may just get so well known when your name appears in the media for copyright infringement and for stealing intellectual property.

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    I dont represent them in any way whatsoever. I just dont like to see a wiseguy shoot their mouth off about a device that they know nothing about except to rip it apart and see what is inside.

    There are laws to protect intellectual property and you can be sued in court for replicating the design irrespective of whether the product is patented or not. Why have you not ripped apart any of Haltech or MSD's products and replicate them since these products are so very much more expensive than all those simple useless devices that you have ripped apart or copied from other online websites???

    I was told by the guy who sold to me that it works by resonance which means nothing to me except that it works as advertised by the seller and I am happy with that to buy 3 units for my cars and 2 units for my bikes.

    Why dont you get a unit of this device and rip it apart and see if the inventor will haul you to court???

    If you are not careful in trying to show how smart you are, you may just get so well known when your name appears in the media for copyright infringement and for stealing intellectual property.

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    here comes the law, the sue and the court, again and again.. seems like your knowledge behind the theory of how the product works is solely base on what they claim.. anyway, electrical resonance frequencies main components are still capacitors for your info.. technically, this product was supposed to increase the voltage input of the ignition coil.. lets used 1:1000 as a simple figure for the transformer in the ignition coil.. your primary coil is receiving 12v giving your secondary coil output 12000v to the spark plug.. with a slightly higher voltage like 14v, your voltage to the spark plug is no longer 12000v but 14000v.. like what everyone thought, the higher the voltage, the stronger the sparks.. ive done projects similar to haltech and msd base on arduino... its good that the product works for you... people can choose to believe this thread or believe claims of what the product would do.. its up to them to decide if the product actually works or not..
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