Sprockets & Chains

[C.S]

instead of kerosen
petrol can or not?

[Thai_R]

Originally posted by cs_kup_oh@Aug 26 2006, 10:43 AM
instead of kerosen
petrol can or not?

Nope. Petrol is corrosive to rubber......
Kerosene is the best.....remember not to soak !!!

[d0n^]

Originally posted by ^i||usiOns74^@Aug 26 2006, 10:07 AM
Next, i don't use kerosene, coz very troublesome, have to buy a metal tin from petrol kiosk, then pump in, in the end can get quite very messy.

bro...kerosene can buy frm hardware shop $2 per liter bottle

petrol kiosk like dont sell kerosene leh~

[^i||usiOns74^]

Originally posted by d0n^@Aug 26 2006, 12:01 PM

bro...kerosene can buy frm hardware shop $2 per liter bottle

petrol kiosk like dont sell kerosene leh~

Oh you mean thinner etc ah? okok

[d0n^]

Originally posted by ^i||usiOns74^@Aug 27 2006, 09:13 AM
Oh you mean thinner etc ah? okok

among the few solvents, i think only kerosene and diesel are the 'safer' ones to use for chain cleaning

[Sn0w_MaN]

ppls can i ask how long do u actually change the chain and the spocket, and can i know how long is the life spend of the chain.

[Ronsonal]

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1)i removed the chain off my wave-s, then i found out tat the front sprocket is loose... the 2 bolts is tight but the sprocket is shaky, is it kind of 'freeplay'? normal?

2)the stock chain DID DX420 (wat i saw on the marking on the chain)... is tis o-ring or jus a normal chain?

3)how much is a stock chain cost? if i DIY buy and install myself, need to 'cut' the lenght to fit? or all wave's chain r in standard length?

anyone?

[Thai_R]

2) The stock DID DX420 is normal chain. O ring chain start from 428 and above only. So in order to use O ring chains on our Wave, we need to use 428 compatible front and rear sprockets as well.

3) Stock is cheap i think about 20 maybe ?
O ring starts from about S$60 onwards for good brands like DID and RK....

Cheers !

[garrieneo]

Originally posted by Ronsonal@Sep 6 2006, 02:56 AM
1)i removed the chain off my wave-s, then i found out tat the front sprocket is loose... the 2 bolts is tight but the sprocket is shaky, is it kind of 'freeplay'? normal?

yes, it suppose to be shaky.
dun worry

[Ronsonal]

thanx 4 the reply,
some more qns...
1)if i buy the stock 420DX chain and DIY change need to 'cut'? i dont have the special chain 'cutting' tool.
2)wat is the stock length? cos i measured mine...its 133cm wondering if tis chain length is stretched.

[Thai_R]

Originally posted by Ronsonal@Sep 10 2006, 08:33 AM
thanx 4 the reply,
some more qns...
1)if i buy the stock 420DX chain and DIY change need to 'cut'? i dont have the special chain 'cutting' tool.
2)wat is the stock length? cos i measured mine...its 133cm wondering if tis chain length is stretched.

1) All new chains comes with extra links. U have to cut them with a chain cutting tool or other tools.
2) Chain lengths are not counted by cm/mm or otherwise. Thay are counted by the number of links they have. If i'm not wrong, Wave should be 110 or 115 links.

Note : I doubt u'll save much by diy or rather worse, risk spoiling ur new chain. Go and get it fixed at ur fav motorthiam.

Cheers !

[allen^key]

Hi Thai R and other xperts here... i got questions.

1) do some stock waves come with size 428 chain and sprocket? cos i thinking of changing to 428 due to its thickness, i find 420 get stretched very easily. BUT i worry 428 may affect pick-up and fuel-comsumption due to increased weight... am i worrying too much? i wanna keep my wave as stock as possible when it comes to engine-related things.

2) YBN (Yaban Chain Industrial) or DID better? a shop in JB-AGL quoted me RM65 for yaban 428HD chain and 'unknown brand' sprockets. gd deal?

[Thai_R]

Originally posted by allen key@Sep 14 2006, 11:12 PM
Hi Thai R and other xperts here... i got questions.

1) do some stock waves come with size 428 chain and sprocket? cos i thinking of changing to 428 due to its thickness, i find 420 get stretched very easily. BUT i worry 428 may affect pick-up and fuel-comsumption due to increased weight... am i worrying too much? i wanna keep my wave as stock as possible when it comes to engine-related things.

2) YBN (Yaban Chain Industrial) or DID better? a shop in JB-AGL quoted me RM65 for yaban 428HD chain and 'unknown brand' sprockets. gd deal?

1) Stock is 420. 428 is strictly aftermarket. U will feel an initial heaviness after the first time u install the chain and sprockets. But later u'll learn to realise the efficiency in power delivery to the rear wheel. If u really wanna take good care of ur bike, i suggest u find JT sprockets and DID/RK O-ring chains to compliment ur bike.

2) YBN ? Never heard of it. Stick with DID or RK....

Cheers !

[allen^key]

Originally posted by Thai_R@Sep 15 2006, 05:05 AM
1) Stock is 420. 428 is strictly aftermarket. U will feel an initial heaviness after the first time u install the chain and sprockets. But later u'll learn to realise the efficiency in power delivery to the rear wheel. If u really wanna take good care of ur bike, i suggest u find JT sprockets and DID/RK O-ring chains to compliment ur bike.

2) YBN ? Never heard of it. Stick with DID or RK....

Cheers !

thnx 4 the info, wavers rocks!!

[allen^key]

hi Thai R n others here...
recently i changed my chain to a size 428, i realised the mech 'cut' the chain to 102 links, the stock 420 chain previously on my bike was 104 links. for 428 wat shd be the proper length? did the mech over-shortened the chain? its working fine but i jus dont feel right...

[guwakzai]

Originally posted by allen key@Sep 28 2006, 07:05 AM
hi Thai R n others here...
recently i changed my chain to a size 428, i realised the mech 'cut' the chain to 102 links, the stock 420 chain previously on my bike was 104 links. for 428 wat shd be the proper length? did the mech over-shortened the chain? its working fine but i jus dont feel right...

u change ur sprocket?? if yes maybe the new sprocket teeth lesser, so chain also nid shorter..

[AspMonK]

yeah, agreed.

usually Stock chain came with longer length for diff kind of bikes.

[allen^key]

Originally posted by guwakzai@Nov 3 2006, 07:47 AM
u change ur sprocket?? if yes maybe the new sprocket teeth lesser, so chain also nid shorter..

yes, i changed sprockets to size428 to suit the 428 chain but teeth combination didn't change, same as stock (frnt 14T, rear 34T)

[allen^key]

Hi wavers... i got a question abt sprocket size.

i travel long distance almost everyday on xpressway (tamp to jurong and back). im thinking of changing rear sprocket to smaller size so tat i can cruise at lower RPM... i assume tat that lower rev=lower fuel consumption; engine less wear and tear... am i right or wrong?

[Thai_R]

Originally posted by allen key@Nov 3 2006, 07:15 PM
yes, i changed sprockets to size428 to suit the 428 chain but teeth combination didn't change, same as stock (frnt 14T, rear 34T)

428 chains are bigger than 420 and require lesser links.

And yes u are right about lower rear teethed sprocks produce less RPM and uses less petrol.

But i dunno if u can find smaller sized rears.....I couldn't find smaller teethed JT sprocks in SG...yet.

[allen^key]

Originally posted by Thai_R@Nov 7 2006, 01:15 AM
But i dunno if u can find smaller sized rears.....I couldn't find smaller teethed JT sprocks in SG...yet.

how abt bigger front sprocket? is there any? does it produce same effect as a smaller rear sprocket?

[Thai_R]

Originally posted by allen key@Nov 7 2006, 05:08 PM
how abt bigger front sprocket? is there any? does it produce same effect as a smaller rear sprocket?

On the average, 1 tooth on the front is equals to about 3 teeth on the rear.

So for example :

14F 36R = 13F 39R
15F 33R = 14F 36R

Something like that lah.....Although that actual figure is not a perfect round figure. Got decimal points..... Go read up on gear ratio and gear ratio calculators....

Cheers !

[allen^key]

the black case tat cover the front sprocket dont look spacious, will a bigger frnt sprocket fit in? im think of changing to 15T frnt but rear remain at 36T... will this combination work? must i use only even numbers on both?

sorry im not gd in maths...wont b able to understand those chim gear ratio u mentioned decimal pt.. wats tat

[allen^key]

Originally posted by allen key@Nov 8 2006, 02:02 PM
but rear remain at 36T...

i meant 34T stock

[Thai_R]

Originally posted by allen key@Nov 8 2006, 02:02 PM
the black case tat cover the front sprocket dont look spacious, will a bigger frnt sprocket fit in? im think of changing to 15T frnt but rear remain at 36T... will this combination work? must i use only even numbers on both?

sorry im not gd in maths...wont b able to understand those chim gear ratio u mentioned decimal pt.. wats tat

Yes u can.

[don2005]

Sprockets set & heavy duty chain for WAVE at only $40, including installation. Please PM me for details.

[ricky157]

hie there..any recommendation of sprockets size works well on spark135 in terms of top end?anyone haf fix sprocket size 14t n rear 34t on spark135?wat's the outcome?does it work well?thanks

[d0csu]

wad's the difference between the different types of chain ? eg. o-ring x-ring and heavy duty ones.. can anyone enlighten me ?

[pyro13]

x ring gold chain is teh best..
i have been using it for 2 months..so far no nd tioghtening although pillion everydfday

[Ashcroftx]

think my chain loose sooN!!

[pyro13]

do u know how to tighten?? was in the newspaper a few weeks back

[Ashcroftx]

i tink its better to give ur mechanic tighten... more professional

[pyro13]

haha...i just tighten myself everytime..

btw wer u fix the airhorn??

[d0csu]

somethings u can slowly learn and do it urself.. slowly explore and u will know ur bike better

[pyro13]

true.. i have beeen opening my bike up alot!

[pyro13]

guys the DIY thread

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....ST&f=5&t=163611

[Ashcroftx]

Originally posted by pyro13@May 16, 2007 01:00 am
haha...i just tighten myself everytime..

btw wer u fix the airhorn??

i fixed at bikeworkz.

[[3]`chUn]

wad's the difference between the different types of chain ? eg. o-ring x-ring and heavy duty ones.. can anyone enlighten me ?

dun have to use so good for cub
and i think the chain too good at cub..

heavy duty good enough =)

[pyro13]

its up to you chun..if u wan the best for ur bike, u will be willing to spend..

for me i am using DID X-ring gold chain..

but its so dirty with chain lube tat it doesnt resembe gold!

[SmallCC]

Later ppl steal your "gold chain". Hehe... Better to have it dirty.

[pyro13]

haha,..anyways..anyone wit experience in washing chain?? i nv wash chain before..so would like a few pointers

[Ashcroftx]

Use disel to wash the chain. Take a tin, go to the petrol station pump about

5L of disel, then can keep and slowly wash in future. Use a china paintbrush,

to scrub the chain clean. Wait for it to dry, then apply the chain lube.

[SmallCC]

Err... i never wash chain, i just apply chain wax every 1000km . Will this cause the chain and sprocket to wear faster?

[pyro13]

not tat it will wear faster..but it will get dirty.

ok..

another idea i got was t0 use kerosene.

if you look at the manual, they actuall suggested kerosene

[Refugee]

no need to clean one lah... apply chain wax dirty again... wtf..

[lost_soul]

one set of chain and sprockets is ard RM60... so i dun even bother to maintain or apply chain wax. maybe only when i feel its too dry. and my chain is already more than 1 yr old, covered 15000km and still a lot to adjust. its just how u ride.

[pyro13]

no need to clean one lah... apply chain wax dirty again... wtf..

then y bathe??

will still get dirty.

[Ashcroftx]

Yeah, i would agree, just need to diligently apply chainlube on ur bike

[deviLLian]

best to lube juz after a whole day of ridin
give sometime for d lube to settle
probly a couple of hours
best to give it overnite
at least d lube wont splatter dat much n dirty otha parts of ya bike

[y2kredbull]

Use disel to wash the chain. Take a tin, go to the petrol station pump about

5L of disel, then can keep and slowly wash in future. Use a china paintbrush,

to scrub the chain clean. Wait for it to dry, then apply the chain lube.

I used diesel b4.Overtime,the chain becomes very slack and needed to be changed.So now i use motul chain cleaner but oso don't clean the chain to often.Just wax every 1000km will be enuf.I'm using Maxima Chain Wax.Best chain wax by far.Sets within 15-20 mins and never flings.