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S4 lover
25-09-2010, 11:51 PM
http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/waja-lancer-1.jpg

http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/10082010905.jpg

http://www.sembang-auto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/4956555351_6c74e480e2_z.jpg

http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/waja-lancer-2.jpg?w=614&h=460

according to a Malaysian Website...

ahcaibiker
26-09-2010, 12:29 AM
wtf? bodywork looks almost identical to a mitsubishi lancer...

MS
26-09-2010, 02:39 PM
wtf? bodywork looks almost identical to a mitsubishi lancer...

Proton cannot even make their own chassis. Publish a design competition and select the winning design as their new car's outlook like VW iScirocco and Peugeot 1007. They even have problems selling their Campro engine. The Peroduo Daihatsu engines even outsells the proton. Then Proton have to tap on the Lotus brand to promote their 'lotus tuned handling' which I believe is nothing but a farce. Lotus have nothing to do with their handling tuning. Proton just happened to own Lotus. This is my own personal view of Proton.

Throttle
26-09-2010, 03:43 PM
will we see people buying this and swopping the badges just like how toyotas swop to lexus????? hhmmm

comics00
26-09-2010, 05:05 PM
will we see people buying this and swopping the badges just like how toyotas swop to lexus????? hhmmm

New car brand - Mitsutron
Model - LancerJa...
:cheers:

biting_point
26-09-2010, 05:58 PM
Boleh ahhhhhh!!!!

redbeacon
26-09-2010, 10:10 PM
It's actually a rebadged Shiatsubishi Lancer: link (http://paultan.org/2010/08/02/new-proton-waja-replacement-based-on-lancer-in-penang/). I'm totally blown away.

hachi
26-09-2010, 11:21 PM
All Lancer EX owner can start to bang wall lo.... But future Waja owner happppppyyyyy

Demon
27-09-2010, 09:13 AM
Proton cannot even make their own chassis.
Publish a design competition and select the winning design as their new car's outlook like VW iScirocco and Peugeot 1007. They even have problems selling their Campro engine. The Peroduo Daihatsu engines even outsells the proton.

To be fair to Proton, they are not the only one doing that. The same chassis is used on different manufactures to reduce R&D, and production cost. Even prestigious brand like Porsche is "guilty" of that as their Cayenne shares the same chassis as the VW Touareg. The best part is that the Prosche Cayenne is not even manufactured by Porsche



Then Proton have to tap on the Lotus brand to promote their 'lotus tuned handling' which I believe is nothing but a farce. Lotus have nothing to do with their handling tuning. Proton just happened to own Lotus. This is my own personal view of Proton.

Don't be too hard on them. Proton bought Lotus so they can conveniently use its name for Proton. It's exactly the same for Fiat STILO which has a SCHUMACHER SPECIAL version, just because FIAT owns Ferrari, and M. Schumacher was then a Ferrari driver.

In the commercial world, a simple re-badging exercise is the easiest, and fastest way to add premium to a product.

MS
27-09-2010, 10:56 AM
To be fair to Proton, they are not the only one doing that. The same chassis is used on different manufactures to reduce R&D, and production cost. Even prestigious brand like Porsche is "guilty" of that as their Cayenne shares the same chassis as the VW Touareg. The best part is that the Prosche Cayenne is not even manufactured by Porsche. Don't be too hard on them. Proton bought Lotus so they can conveniently use its name for Proton. It's exactly the same for Fiat STILO which has a SCHUMACHER SPECIAL version, just because FIAT owns Ferrari, and M. Schumacher was then a Ferrari driver. In the commercial world, a simple re-badging exercise is the easiest, and fastest way to add premium to a product.

Not true bro...
Cayenne and Touareg are not the same cars even though they may share some parts. This is because they are supplied by the same supplier on some parts. Based on that and we considered the same will be extremely far fetched. Let's take a some examples:

1. Vehicle category: Pkw
2. Manufacturer: VOLKSWAGEN
3. model list: TOUAREG (7LA, 7L6, 7L7)
4. type : 3.6 V6 FSI
Engine capacity : 206 kW / 280 HP
displacement : 3597 ccm
model year : 03/2006 - 05/2010
KBA-Nr: 0603833, 0603AGT
country limitation: (not valid for) CDN, USA
kind of vehicle-KTYP-No : 1-19455
motor code: BHK, BHL

Produkt: Lenkgetriebe

for vehicles with servotronic steering
Hydraulic
Remanufactured Part:
For left-hand drive vehicles
without rod assembly
We recommend LEMFÖRDER Steering Components.

VOLKSWAGEN OE Nr
7L6 422 055 K (18.11.2009)
7L6 422 061 K (18.11.2009)
7L6 422 061 P (05.10.2005)
7L6 422 061 PX (05.04.2005)
7L6 422 061 TX (23.01.2007)
7L6 422 062 N (23.01.2007)
7L6 422 063 C (07.06.2010)
7L6 422 063 CX (07.06.2010)

Designation
VOLKSWAGEN :

TOUAREG (7LA, 7L6, 7L7)
3.2 V6 (162 kW ; 10/2002 - 11/2006)
3.2 V6 (177 kW ; 11/2004 - 11/2006)
3.6 V6 FSI (206 kW ; 03/2006 - 05/2010)
4.2 V8 (228 kW ; 12/2002 - 11/2006)
6.0 W12 (331 kW ; 03/2005 - 05/2010)
2.5 R5 TDI (128 kW ; 01/2003 - 05/2010)
3.0 V6 TDI (165 kW ; 11/2004 - 05/2010)
5.0 V10 TDI (230 kW ; 10/2002 - 05/2010)


ZF PARTS Aftermarket Nr:
2835 401



1. vehicle category : PkW
2. manufacturer: PORSCHE
3. model list: CAYENNE (955)
4. type : 3.6
Engine capacity : 213 kW / 290 HP
displacement : 3598 ccm
model year : 02/2007 -
KBA-Nr: 0583ABH, 0583ABK
country limitation: (not valid for) CDN, USA
kind of vehicle-KTYP-No : 1-20112
motor code: M 55.01

Produkt: Lenkgetriebe

for vehicles with servotronic steering
Hydraulic
For left-hand drive vehicles
Remanufactured Part:
without rod assembly
We recommend LEMFÖRDER Steering Components.


PORSCHE OE Nr
955 347 011 07 (30.03.2005)
955 347 011 13 (07.12.2007)
955 347 011 15 (07.12.2007)
955 347 011 17 (05.06.2009)

Designation:
PORSCHE :

CAYENNE (955)
3.2 (184 kW ; 10/2003 - )
3.2 4S (177 kW ; 08/2003 - )
S 4.5 (250 kW ; 09/2002 - )
Turbo 4.5 (331 kW ; 09/2002 - )
3.6 (213 kW ; 02/2007 - )
Turbo S 4.5 (368 kW ; 01/2004 - )
Turbo S 4.5 (383 kW ; 03/2006 - )
S 4.8 (283 kW ; 02/2007 - )
Turbo S 4.8 (368 kW ; 02/2007 - )


ZF PARTS Aftermarket Nr
2849 101

As seen above is the steering gear assembly of the two cars who do not share the same part number even though the design may be the same. This is because of different technical reasons as they do not share the same part. Porsche is built by Porsche using a Porsche blueprint but they employ the use of many suppliers to help make it possible yet with an attractive price tag. The VW Touareg also uses many suppliers. In the German auto industry, the usual suppliers dominate the market:

ZF - getriebe, kupplungsatz, stoßdämpfer, lenksysteme, fahrwerktechnic etc.
LuK - kupplungsatz, lenksysteme etc.
Bilstein - stoßdämpfer etc.
TRW - lenksysteme etc.
BOSCH - Elektrosystem, bremssystem etc.
and so on...

Of course there are parts which may share the same platforms like the following with the same cars as above,

Produkt: Kupplungs ausrücklager

AUDI OE Number
08D 141 165 A (17.08.2009)
PORSCHE OE Number
955.116.080.00 (17.08.2009)
VOLKSWAGEN OE Number
08D 141 165 A (17.08.2009)

Designation

AUDI :

Q7 (4L)
3.6 FSI (206 kW ; 08/2006 - )
PORSCHE :

CAYENNE (955)
3.2 (184 kW ; 10/2003 - )
S 4.5 (250 kW ; 09/2002 - )
3.6 (213 kW ; 02/2007 - )
S 4.8 (283 kW ; 02/2007 - )
GTS 4.8 (298 kW ; 10/2007 - )
VOLKSWAGEN :

TOUAREG (7LA, 7L6, 7L7)
3.2 V6 (162 kW ; 10/2002 - 11/2006)
3.6 V6 FSI (206 kW ; 03/2006 - 05/2010)
2.5 R5 TDI (120 kW ; 08/2003 - 05/2010)
2.5 R5 TDI (128 kW ; 01/2003 - 05/2010)
3.0 V6 TDI (165 kW ; 11/2004 - 05/2010)

As you see here. Platform engineering is totally different from copying. While extensive work have been placed in the development of Touareg and Cayenne, it is not the same for the mitsubishi copy Proton Waja. Even Audi and VW share the same platform engineering on many of their products, they don't copy each other.

Indeed, it is nonetheless commercially a brilliant move for Proton to acquire the rights to copy Mitsubishi's Lancer EX after the rejections it received from many other reowned car makers. But in the view of an engineering perspective, it is nothing but mere copy cat. So long it sells, nothing else matters.

comics00
27-09-2010, 11:41 AM
So long it sells, nothing else matters.

Bro, u hit it rite in the heart man... :deal::cheers:

hachi
27-09-2010, 11:45 AM
I am sure we shall see many wajaluntion 10 in time to come....Hugh body kit,air scope,decals and high rims....

Demon
27-09-2010, 12:19 PM
I am sure we shall see many wajaluntion 10 in time to come....Hugh body kit,air scope,decals and high rims....

Wait till the full WTO effect kicks in, and Proton won't be having any preferential treatment, then they have to compete with more fairly with Thailand Toyotas and Hondas.

Malaysia spending so much money to put Lotus back into F1, naturally Proton will squeeze as much out of Lotus as they can.

The Lotus F1 cars look really good but can't say the same for their performance. :P

ben2306
01-10-2010, 07:40 AM
really boleh......
guys, as long the price is affordable, sure it will grow in spore road. many think that they buy boleh cars, when servicing & spare parts just go boleh country then BOLEH BOLEH... CHEAPer.

spikes89
05-10-2010, 03:12 PM
wajalution x

S4 lover
05-10-2010, 11:50 PM
4B10
Specifications

Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC
Displacement 1.8 L (1798 cc)
Bore 86 mm
Stroke 77.4 mm
Compression ratio 10.5:1
Fuel system ECI multiple

Peak power 105 kW (143 PS) at 6000 rpm
Peak torque 177 N?m (130 ft?lbf) at 4250 rpm

4B11
Specifications

Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC
Displacement 2.0 L (1998 cc)
Bore 86 mm
Stroke 86 mm
Compression ratio 10:1
Fuel system ECI multiple

Peak power 108-114 kW (147-155 PS) at 6000 rpm
Peak torque 198 N?m (146 ft?lbf) at 4250 rpm

jB
15-10-2010, 10:57 PM
Time to sell away your Lancer Ex and Evo X as its already hideous and made even more by protons ;]

salem77
23-11-2010, 08:05 PM
its the new PROTON INSPIRA guyz ............

http://www.protoninspira.com/

Rain1407
26-11-2010, 02:08 PM
no wonder its called "Inspira".... Inspired by?

stoner
10-12-2010, 01:25 AM
Another ......WAJA_LU_TION....in the making....

Some examples of WAJA_LU_TIONs..... *faint*

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/28062009018.jpg

http://kereta.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/picture-of-extreme-modified-proton-waja-2-500x374.jpg




How about......WAJA_BA_RU!

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/IMG_0326.jpg

ben2306
10-12-2010, 12:41 PM
Another ......WAJA_LU_TION....in the making....

Some examples of WAJA_LU_TIONs..... *faint*

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/28062009018.jpg

http://kereta.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/picture-of-extreme-modified-proton-waja-2-500x374.jpg




How about......WAJA_BA_RU!

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/IMG_0326.jpgw/o these boleh people, their country where can BOLEH? hahaha... wtf...