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    juz a question... i bought a gpr helmet, with the psb sticker. however, i sprayed the helmet. so now the psb sticker is under the paint coat. cant be seen unless i scrape off the paint. will uncle sam issue summon den ask me to scrape off the paint or is it ok to do that ?
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    Wonder is there a hotline or such to call up and ask.

    Good questions but who to approach for the correct answer?
    Anyone ever got summon before for not having a certified helmet?
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    I don't really grasp their point. No tinted visor beyond certain % of light. But then can wear clear visor with a very dark lens... where's the sensibility in that? Someone up there need to do some looking-into..
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    This is madness !

    Called TP regarding the PSB stickers.

    Me : Hello, i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP3 : Hold on.

    TP2 : Hello !
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP2 : Where you calling from?
    Me : I'm just a rider!
    TP2 : Hold on.

    TP1 : Hello !
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP1 : Oh ! Hond on!

    TP : Hello.
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP : ya ! wat's ur question?
    Me : Is it illegal to wear a helmet w/o the sticker.
    TP : Yes !
    Me : Where should i get the sticker if i send my helmet for respray?
    TP : Erm......... This you have to ask LTA, they are in charge.
    Me : So am i right to say tat TP still has the right to summon riders for not wearing a PSB approved helmet when it is not under the TP's charge?
    TP : Yes, but have you heard of anyone caught by the TP on this?
    Me : No. And i don wanna be the first.
    TP : tat's right, we don usually tis.
    Me : And i don wanna get caught for wearing a PSB approved helmet tat has no sticker on it cause of respray. I'm jus tryin to make things clear.
    TP : I give u LTA number, call them and ask ok?
    Me : ok. tks.
    TP : 0000-0000
    Me : Tks !


    Another madness !

    LTA : Hello LTA.
    Me : Hello. i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    LTA : yes, wat abt it?
    Me : I'm usin a PSB approved helmet. Where should i get the sticker if i send my helmet for respray?
    LTA : Why you want to respray?
    Me : Oh ! Tis is because my skin are gettin darker, so i was thinkin wanna spray my helmet color to suits my skin color.
    LTA : Hahaha !
    Me : So where do i get the sticker after the respray?
    LTA : Let me check.

    approx 2 mins later

    LTA : The helmet is not under us, it's under TP.
    Me : Oh ! I jus called them, they say it's under LTA and now u r tellin me it under them. So am i right to say tat both TP and LTA can summon riders for not wearing a PSB approved helmet when it's not under your perview?
    LTA : I think u go ask PSB.
    Me : ok Tks a lot for ur time.

    Damn !!!
    KNS !!!


    To be continue...........................................
    Still can't find PSB's number !
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    Bro, try this site http://www.standards.org.sg/

    or call them

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    Heard from a helmet shop they claim that in order to send for PSB approval, they need to send a few helmets they intend to sell for testing.


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    yup...they have to send a few helmets per model for inspection if they want to attain the PSB certification...

    this is to ensure that the test results are consistently lousy across the samples...

    haaha...


    anyway...seriously..i havent heard of anyone being stopped for wearing a non approved full face...half caps...yes...
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    Originally posted by Puffer@January 14, 2007 02:07 pm
    This is madness !

    Called TP regarding the PSB stickers.

    Me : Hello, i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP3 : Hold on.

    TP2 : Hello !
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP2 : Where you calling from?
    Me : I'm just a rider!
    TP2 : Hold on.

    TP1 : Hello !
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP1 : Oh ! Hond on!

    TP : Hello.
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP : ya ! wat's ur question?
    Me : Is it illegal to wear a helmet w/o the sticker.
    TP : Yes !
    Me : Where should i get the sticker if i send my helmet for respray?
    TP : Erm......... This you have to ask LTA, they are in charge.
    Me : So am i right to say tat TP still has the right to summon riders for not wearing a PSB approved helmet when it is not under the TP's charge?
    TP : Yes, but have you heard of anyone caught by the TP on this?
    Me : No. And i don wanna be the first.
    TP : tat's right, we don usually tis.
    Me : And i don wanna get caught for wearing a PSB approved helmet tat has no sticker on it cause of respray. I'm jus tryin to make things clear.
    TP : I give u LTA number, call them and ask ok?
    Me : ok. tks.
    TP : 0000-0000
    Me : Tks !


    Another madness !

    LTA : Hello LTA.
    Me : Hello. i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    LTA : yes, wat abt it?
    Me : I'm usin a PSB approved helmet. Where should i get the sticker if i send my helmet for respray?
    LTA : Why you want to respray?
    Me : Oh ! Tis is because my skin are gettin darker, so i was thinkin wanna spray my helmet color to suits my skin color.
    LTA : Hahaha !
    Me : So where do i get the sticker after the respray?
    LTA : Let me check.

    approx 2 mins later

    LTA : The helmet is not under us, it's under TP.
    Me : Oh ! I jus called them, they say it's under LTA and now u r tellin me it under them. So am i right to say tat both TP and LTA can summon riders for not wearing a PSB approved helmet when it's not under your perview?
    LTA : I think u go ask PSB.
    Me : ok Tks a lot for ur time.

    Damn !!!
    KNS !!!


    To be continue...........................................
    Still can't find PSB's number !
    PSB?
    Aiyah! Never tell me. I working in the building right now.

    Hmm.. see what I can do about asking for you...

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    Actually, no point arguing over the visor issue. I kena once with a light smoke visor. He let me go with a warning. Why he stop me? Becos I ride G6K5 at that time and he is interested in my bike. A couple of malay riders riding RXK with very black visors he also never stop.

    He tested my visor 2 times before he give me the booking... I think first time pass and 2nd time he change to a different setting. Then he chat with me and ask me why my tyres so hairy...Got go track issit? WTF...

    So morale of the story, if uncle sammie wants your ass, he's got it! Singapore is a 'Fine' country!
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    Originally posted by WildCard@January 15, 2007 08:39 am
    PSB?
    Aiyah! Never tell me. I working in the building right now.

    Hmm.. see what I can do about asking for you...
    Tks in advance !

    Bro Wildcard !

    U running around like mad guy !

    So many office i also donno which one u in !

    Haha !
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    got stopped by tp for no mirror, no p plate and tinted visor.. but only charge me with tinted visor. so i asked him abt the helmet. he say, normally most helmets in singapore are approved. they will not usually stop to check the helmet but they will stop to check the visor more..
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    I bought an Arai RX-7 with PSB sticker last week for 780 dollars. Shop on Serangoon Road close to Lavender Street.

    That said, it's a ridiculous rule. There's such nice helmets out there, and because of totally useless bureaucracy you can't buy them.

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    Once and for all, don't need PSB sticker for your helmet.

    if u are TP/ROV/LTA, u summon rider for no psb sticker,u go back station tell your colleagues, everybody laugh at you ar.

    PSB sticker helmet under high impact also will crack ,i seen with my own eyes before.Insurance claim as long as you are wearing helmet can already, if not then say helmet fly into the bushes,or kena stolen/destroyed/cannot find.

    Just put on a decent helmet,have PSB or not really doesnt matter.

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    Originally posted by nE0@October 04, 2006 09:30 pm
    Tinted visors are actually safer in some situations, because when you need to, you can just flip them up and restore proper, untinted vision.

    Just try riding down a slope into an underground carpark;

    Braking, downshifting, half-clutch, slowing for a hump. Now try to take off your sunglass.
    hmm lets say yr visor is tinted then you ride without using them(open up the visor), you still will kena fine right?
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    Originally posted by jB@March 18, 2007 06:46 pm
    hmm lets say yr visor is tinted then you ride without using them(open up the visor), you still will kena fine right?
    yup.

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    eeeks!! haha ok then what about visor tinted from the top dark then to the bottom it less tint liao(like cars dark from the top the lighter color below)..is that fine? or will that be fined? anyone here tried? any experience?
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    Originally posted by nE0@October 04, 2006 09:30 pm
    Tinted visors are actually safer in some situations, because when you need to, you can just flip them up and restore proper, untinted vision.

    Just try riding down a slope into an underground carpark;

    Braking, downshifting, half-clutch, slowing for a hump. Now try to take off your sunglass.
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    jus wondering does any one of u guys out there got book twice for visor?
    my 1st time was by a TP subaru...but he gave me warning slip
    2nd time was a TP bike...he summon me
    the letter came to my house askin me to pay $50...paid
    but....

    another letter came asking me to pay $50 again but with 6points deducted?
    why is it so?
    i tot visor will not affect points?

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    as if the sticker is damage proof.
    like if in accident where many so many things can break.
    wat the sticker canot break is it. if break den canot claim insurance aredi.

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    then where can ppl get 30% or less visors from ?


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    Originally posted by cheowseng@April 02, 2007 12:42 pm
    jus wondering does any one of u guys out there got book twice for visor?
    my 1st time was by a TP subaru...but he gave me warning slip
    2nd time was a TP bike...he summon me
    the letter came to my house askin me to pay $50...paid
    but....

    another letter came asking me to pay $50 again but with 6points deducted?
    why is it so?
    i tot visor will not affect points?
    tinted visor fine is 50bucks,no points will be deducted even it is a repented offence
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    erm.. i've got a question to ask!
    can i import helmet from other country that is DOT approved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoie View Post
    erm.. i've got a question to ask!
    can i import helmet from other country that is DOT approved?
    I think you can. I believe there isn't any law prohibiting you from importing helmets into Singapore. Now, whether or not you choose to wear them while riding, that's another question altogether.

    You can import a glass helmet also if you want to, but if you are mad enough to wear a GLASS helmet while riding, well...

    As what has been said earlier, you can wear an army helmet for riding also, same fine hahaha

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    so that mean if i import the helmet n i wear it i might get fine?
    is tat it? =\
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    Drivers and pillion riders of motor cycles to wear protective helmets
    74. —(1) Every person who drives or is carried on a motor cycle shall wear securely on his head a protective helmet of a type approved by the Minister.
    (2) No person shall import, sell or offer for sale or have in his possession for sale any protective helmet which is not of a type approved by the Minister.
    (3) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $200.
    (4) Any person who contravenes subsection (2) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months and, in the case of a second or subsequent conviction, to a fine not exceeding $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contrarian View Post
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    (2) No person shall import, sell or offer for sale or have in his possession for sale any protective helmet which is not of a type approved by the Minister.
    Oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by luminox View Post
    Once and for all, don't need PSB sticker for your helmet.

    if u are TP/ROV/LTA, u summon rider for no psb sticker,u go back station tell your colleagues, everybody laugh at you ar.

    PSB sticker helmet under high impact also will crack ,i seen with my own eyes before.Insurance claim as long as you are wearing helmet can already, if not then say helmet fly into the bushes,or kena stolen/destroyed/cannot find.

    Just put on a decent helmet,have PSB or not really doesnt matter.
    I think these are baseless conclusions. We all know whether PSB matters or not. Now the issue is WHY things work this way. We should be thinking of a way to get reasonable explanations from the authorities (hmmm is it LTA, TP or PSB?)

    Maybe we should go ask the MPs and see whether they can get some answers for us lol. Anybody wanna try out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5tr4ng3r View Post
    I think these are baseless conclusions. We all know whether PSB matters or not. Now the issue is WHY things work this way. We should be thinking of a way to get reasonable explanations from the authorities (hmmm is it LTA, TP or PSB?)

    Maybe we should go ask the MPs and see whether they can get some answers for us lol. Anybody wanna try out?
    But laws/regulations are not written to suit everyone from Day1 and they are meant to be enhanced over time.

    Better stick with the current regulations and though I agree with your belief that many helmets which do not have the sticker are also very safe, we should still not break this intentionally as this is in place to safe-guard those who are new to this environment.

    Probably someone could start a petition to allow all approved helmets to be allowed (i.e. DOT, SNELL, PSB) and once this is adopted, it will then be a WIN/WIN situation for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffer View Post
    This is madness !

    Called TP regarding the PSB stickers.

    Me : Hello, i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP3 : Hold on.

    TP2 : Hello !
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP2 : Where you calling from?
    Me : I'm just a rider!
    TP2 : Hold on.

    TP1 : Hello !
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP1 : Oh ! Hond on!

    TP : Hello.
    Me : Hello! i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    TP : ya ! wat's ur question?
    Me : Is it illegal to wear a helmet w/o the sticker.
    TP : Yes !
    Me : Where should i get the sticker if i send my helmet for respray?
    TP : Erm......... This you have to ask LTA, they are in charge.
    Me : So am i right to say tat TP still has the right to summon riders for not wearing a PSB approved helmet when it is not under the TP's charge?
    TP : Yes, but have you heard of anyone caught by the TP on this?
    Me : No. And i don wanna be the first.
    TP : tat's right, we don usually tis.
    Me : And i don wanna get caught for wearing a PSB approved helmet tat has no sticker on it cause of respray. I'm jus tryin to make things clear.
    TP : I give u LTA number, call them and ask ok?
    Me : ok. tks.
    TP : 0000-0000
    Me : Tks !


    Another madness !

    LTA : Hello LTA.
    Me : Hello. i'm calling in regards of the PSB approved helmet.
    LTA : yes, wat abt it?
    Me : I'm usin a PSB approved helmet. Where should i get the sticker if i send my helmet for respray?
    LTA : Why you want to respray?
    Me : Oh ! Tis is because my skin are gettin darker, so i was thinkin wanna spray my helmet color to suits my skin color.
    LTA : Hahaha !
    Me : So where do i get the sticker after the respray?
    LTA : Let me check.

    approx 2 mins later

    LTA : The helmet is not under us, it's under TP.
    Me : Oh ! I jus called them, they say it's under LTA and now u r tellin me it under them. So am i right to say tat both TP and LTA can summon riders for not wearing a PSB approved helmet when it's not under your perview?
    LTA : I think u go ask PSB.
    Me : ok Tks a lot for ur time.

    Damn !!!
    KNS !!!


    To be continue...........................................
    Still can't find PSB's number !
    There is a scene in Jack Neo's movie 'Just Follow Law' where there was a similar scenario, all trying to siam haha, thanks for trying to call them anyways


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    so, is there is half cap or semi half cap helmet in the market that is approve?

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    how about windscreens?any1 knows if the same rule as visors apply?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mi5trooper View Post
    so, is there is half cap or semi half cap helmet in the market that is approve?
    Even if it's approved i wouldn't want to wear that. So EXPOSED!!!

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    Half Cap helmet with PSB approved can it be use on the road? will kana tp or ROV disturb?

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    if got PSB approved that means can use legally. don't tink they will disturb wan. i see many ppl riding also some more no PSB sticker.

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    Don't wear half cap lah bro, must be prepared for the worst...

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    Hi everybody..
    need to ask this issue abt the visibility of visor...
    Just yesterday i was stopped by a TP regarding my visor..To my understanding, you can use any helmet with visor of at least 70% light transmittance at any time. However, after addressing with this issue on the spot with the TP, he only told me that there is no such laws and that if there are any, the TPs would have used it. He did not even conduct any test using the tint meter. Nothing. He insisted on giving me the summon and that if I want to I can appeal.

    To me it does not justify the fact that no test was conducted yet I was given a summon for possessing a legal helmet with a tinted visor that complies with the rules.

    As I am very sure that my visor is lightly tinted with 70% if not more light transmittance, I'm just wondering how to solve this when i appeal?
    Is it possible to go down to TP HQ and test my visor at the same time appeal for this unjustifiable issue of summon?

    Need your advice on what should be done next.
    Thanx guys!

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    hmm if got sticker, but the sticker wordings fate away already how? isit still legally?
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    from wat i know, presently there is no such thing as slightly tinted visors or 30% tinted being legal for use.

    but wat i'd like to know is, will there be an imposed fine for any pillion wit tinted visors on? n i wud like to know if the source is reliable or not. tanx!!
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    anyone wif ans regarding my enquiry?
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    pillion high chance they wont fine. they aim mainly at riders. a TP officer told me one. i got fined twice in a week. 1 road block n along the highway. tat was ard 2 years ago. n L*B say their smoke visor approve one!!

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    but i got buy one full black visor at LAB n dat time i ask d abang which percentage of tinted visors are approved n he says NONE.

    so up to date.. LAB says all tinted visors r not legally approved.
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    nvm since it happened 2 years ago now policy change i also wont know.

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    just be safe!!!

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    Ahaha... yesterday I in middle of 3 lane road along Bradell. Evening peak hour, saw TP ROV overtake me on the right, siao liao... tinted visor, but i was sandwhich between a huge MPV infront an a salon car behind, just merged into major road. He no chance to come in behind me. Suddenly see he signal left in front of the MPV, o o... might be coming for me liao, then he went to left lane. I see left lane clear, i faster take the chance change lane left safely and turn into Toa Payoh. He stop after the filter left lane into Toa Payoh, no chance to stop me as he overshoot the exit liao. He dismounted the bike, i think he was looking at my direction. Lol... Heng ah... Lesson learnt, must observe road traffic and anticipate ROV movements. Lol... Later I u turn was opposite side of Bradell, he pull over those cement trucks and check this check that at the saem spot liao. Hehe...
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    pillion high chance they wont fine. they aim mainly at riders. a TP officer told me one. i got fined twice in a week. 1 road block n along the highway. tat was ard 2 years ago. n L*B say their smoke visor approve one!!
    not exactly, my friend kena coz his gf pillion was wearing a black, u know those kind where riders wear normal and the gf wear black like want to hide the face.haha. but ya..kena FINE.
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    As I am very sure that my visor is lightly tinted with 70% if not more light transmittance, I'm just wondering how to solve this when i appeal?
    Is it possible to go down to TP HQ and test my visor at the same time appeal for this unjustifiable issue of summon?
    appealing for this offence is useless. i suspect they already set their tint meters to work against us. my visor last time was sure light as it was the lightest among the shop and it only showed 40% disability on the tp's meter and that caught me dumbfounded. and also gave me $50 receipt for them to claim. so lets just stick to clear ones and use sunglasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoStar View Post
    not exactly, my friend kena coz his gf pillion was wearing a black, u know those kind where riders wear normal and the gf wear black like want to hide the face.haha. but ya..kena FINE.
    wah! comfem fine ah? is there any significant rule in d TP's book dat states dat pillion cant wear tinted visors?
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    not sure man but that was what i heard. that was his 2nd meet with tp on that day. 1st was because he corner so low and tp saw. kena nothing. then along the way another tp stop him..for pillion visor.
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    I guess it would be good if sum one's family members or frens is a TP or ROV would give us a advice. Tat way, we'll all kno TP's actual criteria. =)

    Possible?

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    if i not wrong...both of them(rider+pillon)cant wear since it already say in the law,but still luck count,TP good=let u off,TP fcuk up=$50 gone
    i not a TP but i got a good frz which is TP to me 10 yr till now since he caught me 3 time 10 yr back lol

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