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    Originally posted by kennethy@Aug 27 2006, 11:35 AM
    overall, the 2 major culprits of road traffic accidents in Singapore are speeding and drink driving. i believe you would have recall the many advertising about not speeding or drink drinking to bring up the awareness...

    and to better put the situation into control, education alone is not sufficient and hence, tighter enforcement actions are needed. and mobile speed traps and road blocks play and important part. it is singaporean natural to only behave if someone is watching...
    speeding and drink driving? is that really the case? (i have no idea, not meaning to question your credibility also, just want to make sure that this is a hard fact, because it's very important and relevant to know how/why accidents really occur)

    from personal anecdotal experience, i.e. stories from friends... most of them buang because of right of way issues (e.g. lane changes, junctions). that is the most common, although most are minor accidents of course. are right of way issues speed issues as well? i don't think so, but i have no hard data.

    the second most common type is rider lose control, i.e. self-induced buang, e.g. corner too fast and go down from sand, and skidding when needing to brake hard (ok this might be a speed issue, but IMHO speed is relative to traffic, and i think absolute speed limits are not as good as self-imposed relative speed limits based on road awareness; in other words, absolute speed limits, going hand-in-hand with enforcement, can prevent rider education being an issue, but isn't it better if the rider/driver self-imposes speed limits as well? for e.g. sometimes in slow traffic, you can still see motorbikes filtering very quickly, or sometimes you see that one lane is jammed, and on the lane beside it motorcycles are still going by quickly, not realising that drivers will attempt to change lane, and might not notice them).

    so maybe drink-driving and speeding aren't really the major cause of accidents, but of major accidents which involve the TP perhaps? it's true though that enforcement, rather than education is probably needed to tackle these kinds of problems.

    anyway, i absolutely agree that greater enforcement is a good thing, and that enforcement seems necessary in singapore's context (because of how pple behave here), but motorist education is also very useful.



    incidentally, i think speed limits need to be slightly more realistic... maybe there can be day-time limits and night-time limits. this might help to raise consciousness of how driving/riding has to be adjusted to immediate/local conditions.

    also, very low speed limits create this mentality among people that it's "impossible to keep to speed limits". they end up speeding anyway, and slow down for "risky areas". at that stage, speed limits become meaningless and superfluous to those people, and what matters instead are overhead bridges, cameras, speedtraps etc.



    in singapore there could be some lack of motorist's own (internal) consideration for other motorists/road conditions. i think this might be because everyone depends on the (external) law for determining "acceptable" behaviour. you end up with inconsiderate motorists, who sometimes think so long as they go by the book, they're doing the right thing. you have road hogs, and you have overtaking on the left. people think because the speed limit is 80 they can hog the road at 80 (and frustrate many other motorists). they think because the speed limit is 70, they can drive at 70 even though there's a lot of other traffic sharing the road, many junctions and intersections along the road.

    that's something you can't stop with enforcement, but you can stop with education.


    (sorry i realise i am rambling but i just wrote off the top of my head and i'm in a rush to go out now. hope these rambles springboard some serious content discussion which will be useful in the dialogue session, and incidentally "dialog" is american and "dialogue" british. of course, youse makes your own choices about spelling! =D )

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    How many times we read the papers of bikers accident - reason given was losing control of the bike, and crash into something? It all sounds like the bikers fault, but thats how the Papers potray it. But in real life, it could have been a car while changing lanes hitting the bike - causing it to lose control. Cause this could happens easily if the car's mirror is just the ordinary type of mirror. Unless the driver have a blind spot mirror, he may not be able to see a small bike on his blind spot and thus hitting it.

    What's the solution here? Simple - make it mandatory to have Blind Spot Mirrors - especially big trucks & Vans also. The Spore government can use legislative means to bring instant results or improvement! This is in contrast to use of Safety campaign to change human beviour ; which is very difficult and takes years to see improvement .


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    Originally posted by MIGHTY MAX@Aug 27 2006, 09:22 AM
    tell them to make racing track for bikes & cars....well for those intend to go fast ...they should do it on the track or be fines ...that should be the way...if not mistaken...Singapore is well advance country & it should have a racing track for the public.......................then those wanna be racer will do it in the track...period..the gov. should involved this matter & consider since they a making the Casino for those luv to gamble why not making a racing track for those who luv to race...sorry i can't make it due oversea....
    If i'm not wrong they are going to build the race track at the marine south.....


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    Dialog Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialog Session with Traffic Police (on how to improve the Road Safety)
    When: Saturday, 14th Oct 2006
    Time: TBA
    Where: Traffic Police HQ
    Itinerary:
    • Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    • Brief introduction to Road Safety Statistic.
    • How road safety compaign works
    • Site Visit to TP office, meet up with TP officer.
    • How to ride safely on the road.
    • Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    *I hope to see we can go in a group of 60, this is the first time we have this kind of event. For your info, the person in charge is also a biker.

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    Originally posted by tt6389@Aug 25 2006, 05:09 PM
    If it is a discussion session, it is also a feedback session. Then we put up these proposals:-
    1) Extend 2A from 200cc to 600cc bikes. This is because there are just too few good bikes between 200 cc to 400cc.
    2) Allow LEDs like mine to be legalised. As long the lights are static and doesn't flickers, glaring or distract other motorists. This is because the LEDs can enhance visibility & safety at night.
    BTW is there any clause in the Traffic Safety Act which say we cannot install additional lightings to enhance visibility?

    hi tim,

    i think you are refering to the wrong agency... as mentioned before, traffic police are responsible for the enforcement action. in terms of policies and regulations, they are under LTA.

    if you are interested with the law, you can look up the Road Traffic Act at the following link -> Road Traffic Act



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    Originally posted by DaBonz@Aug 26 2006, 01:47 AM
    How about someone bring up all the stolen bikes this year? Seems to be increasing as the months go by...

    Stolen R6

    Stolen naked bikes

    There are more but can't remeber where...
    hmm... think that relevent to police... but may not be a key responsibility of traffic police...

    guess all of us are excited having this opportunity to speak to the traffic police... but before we swamp them with all our questions and enquires... believe it will be good to bear in mind what are relevent to traffic police and what are not...

    police work is brandly speaking is :
    1. to protect life and property, as well as
    2. maintain law and order

    furthermore, what is traffic police different from the rest of police? traffic police and sort of like 'specialist' of police in charge of singapore's road and traffic...

    they basically are empowered to enforce law on the road; bringing down offences committed on the road (speeding, beat red light, etc) as well as to make the roads a safety place for road users (driver/rider/pedestrains)

    so, the few things that TP are not responsible for :
    1. make/amend the traffic rules (that is under LTA)
    2. go patrol in carparks to prevent motor vehicle thief (that is under the officers in blue not white)
    3. check for illegal modifications; but they do refer to LTA from time to time
    4. condition of the road / road hazard (under LTA)

    hope this helps...



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    Originally posted by tt6389@Aug 26 2006, 02:34 AM
    Just look at the past histories of Spore motoring. ROV had disallowed third brake lights for cars for many years. When the Malaysian government made it mandatory for Spore cars to install third brake light when entering JB, our government has no choice but to give in. Now it agree with the Malaysian government that the third brake light does improves visibility and safety.

    Full faced helmet was also banned for many years, in spite of letters in the forums that FF helmet can protects against facial injuries. Reason given for rejection was robbers can used FF helmet to commit crime. Such reason given was very illogical to many , because robbers can always use other things such as ladies stocking or ski mask to conceal their faces.

    All these examples show that Spore has always been complacent & reluctant in upgrading its traffic regulations with respect to safety. Instead of focusing on legislative improvements, it instead focus on the motorist behaviour by using safety campaign instead.

    For the feedback session, we should consider highlighting the weakness of the system (together with recommendations) as well as promoting the best practises of other developed countries.

    i fully supported your setiment... sg gov have always been super conservative (or KS in layman term). excluding a lot of policies / regulations that has been much tested and proven in our countries.

    anyway, such laws varies from country to country, in some countries, it is ok not to wear a helmet while riding (not just refering to Sikh alone), some countries dun even separate license into different cc...

    however, i am not so sure how much can our friendly TP office help as you yourself have mentioned that it was ROV who disallows people from doing it... and as you might also have know... ROV is now known as LTA...



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    Originally posted by kennethy@Aug 28 2006, 02:15 AM
    hi tim,

    i think you are refering to the wrong agency... as mentioned before, traffic police are responsible for the enforcement action. in terms of policies and regulations, they are under LTA.

    if you are interested with the law, you can look up the Road Traffic Act at the following link -> Road Traffic Act
    oops...after taking second look at the itinerary, I think you're right.


    I would have preferred a "Meet the LTA" session instead. Thanks for highlighting.
    .........................

    But I sure like to clarify with the TP if bike LEDs like mine, which doesn't flash or glare is permissible on the roads.

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    hopefully those that are saying , all this stuff above , can voice out in de tp dialog session .

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    Thanks for the feedbacks.

    The Traffic Police will allowed us to park inside their compound for this special occusion, so no worry about the parking lah.

    You may help in relaying this message to other bikers groups and clubs.
    Thanks !
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    Originally posted by MiCmAsTa@Aug 28 2006, 01:37 AM
    Dialog Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialog Session with Traffic Police (on how to improve the Road Safety)
    When: Saturday, 14th Oct 2006
    Time: TBA
    Where: Traffic Police HQ
    Itinerary:
    • Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    • Brief introduction to Road Safety Statistic.
    • How road safety compaign works
    • Site Visit to TP office, meet up with TP officer.
    • How to ride safely on the road.
    • Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    *I hope to see we can go in a group of 60, this is the first time we have this kind of event. For your info, the person in charge is also a biker.

    Please let me have your feedback here, I will update the information.


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    Really hope it&#39;ll not be all "They-talk-we-listen"... and that they will actually take our feedback and suggestions seriously and maybe even incorporate some into their next campaign.
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    Hi Mr Lau.

    Count me in please.
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:


    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

    Mr Ng rides a Honda Cub... to work occassionally.
    So he is very much one of us.

    If u wish to attend the above program,
    Please List your name below:


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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:


    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

    Mr Ng rides a Honda Cub... to work occassionally.
    So he is very much one of us.

    If u wish to attend the above program,
    Please List your name below:


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    13) Hart
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    15) Stan_lemieux
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    18) Jada
    19) Metalfyre
    20) Allen key
    21) Endlessloop
    22) Quizsilver
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:


    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

    Mr Ng rides a Honda Cub... to work occassionally.
    So he is very much one of us.

    If u wish to attend the above program,
    Please List your name below:


    01) Civicblade
    02) Bluelabel
    03) Boofeng
    04) GerardSantaCruz
    05) PinKcHicK
    06) Myxilplix
    07) Fruitcakepablohoney
    08) William_liu
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    12) Friedfishz
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    18) Jada
    19) Metalfyre
    20) Allen key
    21) Endlessloop
    22) Quizsilver
    23) TeePeePhobe
    24) bobo_rider




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    Details of our recce at loudexhaust.blogspot.com.
    I think we can learn more on 14Oct. So I&#39;m going too.
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:

    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

    Mr Ng rides a Honda Cub... to work occassionally.
    So he is very much one of us.

    If u wish to attend the above program,
    Please List your name below:

    01) Civicblade
    02) Bluelabel
    03) Boofeng
    04) GerardSantaCruz
    05) PinKcHicK
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    07) Fruitcakepablohoney
    08) William_liu
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    12) Friedfishz
    13) Hart
    14) cs_kup_oh
    15) Stan_lemieux
    16) LinW
    17) Ahzhi_scooter
    18) Jada
    19) Metalfyre
    20) Allen key
    21) Endlessloop
    22) Quizsilver
    23) TeePeePhobe
    24) bobo_rider
    25) Blues* (somehow got deleted from list in a previous post)
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

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    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
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    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:

    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
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    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
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    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

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    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
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    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:

    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

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    Originally posted by civicblade@Aug 18 2006, 08:28 AM
    Hi MrLau,

    Some suggestions on how to improve road safety for bikers.

    1) Less manned speed traps on overhead bridge. This will only distract motorist when the police officer was spotted on the bridge. Whenever motorist approaches an overhead bridge, their attention will be diverted to spotting speed traps on the bridge instead of focusing on the road.
    What is the effectiveness of such speed traps? Speed traps like this are fixed and many times deployed at hours of the day where traffic is smooth and safe vehicle speed is relatively faster than peak hours. Police officer&#39;s time should be better utilised on the road, looking out for more dangerous violation by motorist.

    2) Improve response time police officers react to public call for action/help. From infinity to some reasonable time.

    Some suggestions on how to improve road users satisfaction level

    1) Increase speed limit at low traffic flow timing. Such as 11pm to 6am in the morning.
    i ur ideas...





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    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
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    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:

    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
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    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
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    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:

    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

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    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Introduction of traffic police organisation.
    Road Safety Statistic.
    How road safety compaign works
    A Visit to the Tp latest VFR & WRX Street machine.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:

    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

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    Dear all,

    Below is the confirmed agenda for Saturday session :

    9.45 am - Arrival of members

    10.00 am - Road Safety talk & sharing session at Auditorium (2nd level)

    11.00 am - Tea Break

    11.30 am - Viewing of Police Speed Laser Camera (PSLC)

    12.00 pm - Viewing of Subaru WRX & Honda VFR 800

    12.30 pm - Visit to TP Heritage Hall

    1.00 pm - Programme Ends

    Please take note of the time, be punctual.

    See you there, ride safely.
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    Eh... Sorry if this is a dumb question... But would there be enough parking lots for so many of us? Never go TP HQ before, so not too sure how things work there.... Anyone care to advice?

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    there are parking lots opposite TP along the main road.

    You are not allowed to park within the premises.

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    Originally posted by MrLau@Sep 6 2006, 07:51 AM
    Thanks for the feedbacks.

    The Traffic Police will allowed us to park inside their compound for this special occusion, so no worry about the parking lah.

    You may help in relaying this message to other bikers groups and clubs.
    Thanks &#33;
    No worries about parking lah, this is special&#33;

    I&#39;m looking forward to it.
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    parking lot within TP will be cater for.
    so no worries. has been asked and given the green light.

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    Last slot&#33;
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    Alright thanx guys~&#33; See you there.

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    Questions,

    How the guards will know we are there for the event? And also, are we allow to bring cameras?

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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Program details as followsear all,

    Below is the confirmed agenda for Saturday session :

    9.45 am - Arrival of members

    10.00 am - Road Safety talk & sharing session at Auditorium (2nd level)

    11.00 am - Tea Break

    11.30 am - Viewing of Police Speed Laser Camera (PSLC)

    12.00 pm - Viewing of Subaru WRX & Honda VFR 800

    12.30 pm - Visit to TP Heritage Hall

    1.00 pm - Programme Ends

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    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
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    Dialogue Session with Traffic Police*

    Organizer: MrLau

    What: Dialogue Session with Traffic Police
    (On how to Improve Bikers&#39; Road Safety)
    When: 14 Oct 2006
    Time: 9am - 1pm
    Where: Traffic Police HQ Ubi

    Program:
    Program details as followsear all,

    Below is the confirmed agenda for Saturday session :

    9.45 am - Arrival of members

    10.00 am - Road Safety talk & sharing session at Auditorium (2nd level)

    11.00 am - Tea Break

    11.30 am - Viewing of Police Speed Laser Camera (PSLC)

    12.00 pm - Viewing of Subaru WRX & Honda VFR 800

    12.30 pm - Visit to TP Heritage Hall

    1.00 pm - Programme Ends

    Please take note of the time, be punctual.

    The Deputy Superintendent of Police Mr Simon Ng
    will Chair the Dialogue on:


    1. How to ride safely on the road.
    2. Improvement on Road Safety campaign.
    3. Discuss any issue regarding our safety on the road.

    Mr Simon Ng is the Man in Charge of Road Safety for the
    Island of Singapore. He head the team at Traffic Police.
    He is reaching out to the Biking community of Spore.
    To bring the ride safe message
    And to get feedback on how we can improve our safety.

    Mr Ng rides a Honda Cub... to work occassionally.
    So he is very much one of us.

    If u wish to attend the above program,
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    anyone got any idea where can we park, legally?

     

     
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    Originally posted by anakin@Oct 13 2006, 01:21 PM
    anyone got any idea where can we park, legally?
    We&#39;re allowed to park inside... dude&#33;

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    see u all tmr&#33;
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    Guys,make sure you have all your questionaire ready&#33;

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    shiete&#33; i got no question. just there to sit and listen.
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    Yup&#33; And let&#39;s all go with an open mind, and be humble and tactful&#33;

    Even the smallest spark can start a massive forest fire...

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    and i dunno any of you. just a few. and i&#39;m shy. and how do i identify MrLau?
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    ninja
    look for me lor
    haha

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    Originally posted by quizesilver@Oct 13 2006, 05:56 PM
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    you quizesilver. not MrLau.
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    Look for me&#33;
    Even the smallest spark can start a massive forest fire...

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