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    Anyone knows about Jehovah's Witnesses?
    I met them recently.
    Can someone give me their opinions and what they know about them?

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    it is illegal in spore..so stay clear..

     

     
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    Alright i did a search and found out , didnt heard about them before
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    eh i tht u selling them. why post in garage sales! lolz.

    well my personal advice, stay clear.

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    Originally posted by duckit@Dec 7 2006, 02:56 AM
    Alright i did a search and found out , didnt heard about them before
    Jehovah
    usually ang mos wearing black long top with tie holding what they call their "bible" and kinda "preach" and end e conversation with a prayer.

    let me share a comical experience with them. ithey approach me and my friend one dae. though i heard about them but i haven't encounter them face to face ma. so i just stand there, listen what they got to offer. they go brag about their beliefs and den started praying. before ending e prayer i go on adding, "I pray that you'll find the truth.."

    after that, he go staring at me and that was super funny la. my friend go luffing non stop. hee.. kinda bad but ya~ hehe~
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    Originally posted by cArRotZ@Dec 7 2006, 03:39 AM
    usually ang mos wearing black long top with tie holding what they call their "bible" and kinda "preach" and end e conversation with a prayer.

    let me share a comical experience with them. ithey approach me and my friend one dae. though i heard about them but i haven't encounter them face to face ma. so i just stand there, listen what they got to offer. they go brag about their beliefs and den started praying. before ending e prayer i go on adding, "I pray that you'll find the truth.."

    after that, he go staring at me and that was super funny la. my friend go luffing non stop. hee.. kinda bad but ya~ hehe~
    er.... i think those man with black tops with huge badges are not jehovah witnesses people... they are from the mormons..

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    wats a mormons..?

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    Either way, best to siam..... bordering on cult status I feel....

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    mathsboy, I managed to search out this website for you
    their official website. nothing beats hearing it frim the horses' mouth
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    Originally posted by speedkills@Dec 7 2006, 07:36 AM
    er.... i think those man with black tops with huge badges are not jehovah witnesses people... they are from the mormons..
    eh not excatly all of them. i remembered clearly their tag stating Jehovah's Witnesses ..

    mormons are usually "big sized" hahah..
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    i tot Jehovah's Witnesses bike acessories..

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    I will highly recommand this thread to be close as soon as possible.

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    Originally posted by tarzan666@Dec 7 2006, 02:52 AM
    it is illegal in spore..so stay clear..
    hw come its illegal in sgp ?


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    Originally posted by Denden@Dec 7 2006, 02:08 PM
    Yeah yeah... where's the moderator when you need one?
    Sorry.
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    Originally posted by sepet@Dec 7 2006, 09:58 AM
    wats a mormons..?
    Go here http://www.fatheralexander.org/bookl...h/mormon_e.htm and you will undersdand.

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    Originally posted by Mathsboy@Dec 7 2006, 02:16 AM
    Anyone knows about Jehovah's Witnesses?
    I met them recently.
    Can someone give me their opinions and what they know about them?
    Here http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/en...lt_abc_koch.htm you can have a brief understanding.

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    stay clear...in e news yrs back...ban in s'pore.
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    If you want to stay on this issue, and is unsure, for those who haven't enslist into Army, declare yourself as a Jehovah Witness Follower, guess what?! Don't need to chiong sua for 2 years. You go somewhere else!
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    wats so specially till kena like tt?
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    Originally posted by Xenophobia07@Dec 7 2006, 07:37 PM
    If you want to stay on this issue, and is unsure, for those who haven't enslist into Army, declare yourself as a Jehovah Witness Follower, guess what?! Don't need to chiong sua for 2 years. You go somewhere else!
    if u 1st day enlist, n declare that u're JW (or wat we codenamed johnie walker), u would be isolated immediately. Then we call SAFPU n wait for them pick u up, then u go DB and be their gardener for 2 yrs lor..

    Essentially JW does not recognise the state, and of course military service. Other quirks about them is that they cannot take blood transfusions as well. Say one JW kena accident, he would refuse to let the doctor transfuse new blood into him..@ most recycle his old blood

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    Originally posted by jkaiser@Dec 7 2006, 08:16 PM
    if u 1st day enlist, n declare that u're JW (or wat we codenamed johnie walker), u would be isolated immediately. Then we call SAFPU n wait for them pick u up, then u go DB and be their gardener for 2 yrs lor..

    Essentially JW does not recognise the state, and of course military service. Other quirks about them is that they cannot take blood transfusions as well. Say one JW kena accident, he would refuse to let the doctor transfuse new blood into him..@ most recycle his old blood

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    Just want to clear the air .... things are going intertwined..... Jehovah's Witnesses have a cult status in singapore ... Mormons have no links to JW and mormons are a denomination of christianity and is perfectly legal in singapore just like other christianity denominations .... Yesh .... mormons orginated from Salt Lake City in the US ... mormons have their won bible 'Book of Mormons' in addtion to the testaments. .... the people you see on the streets are missionaries from all over the world and they bore a black tag. I know some pple consider then unorthodox especially in the US ... but they are in no way of cult status and illegal.
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    Originally posted by jkaiser@Dec 7 2006, 08:16 PM
    if u 1st day enlist, n declare that u're JW (or wat we codenamed johnie walker), u would be isolated immediately. Then we call SAFPU n wait for them pick u up, then u go DB and be their gardener for 2 yrs lor..

    Essentially JW does not recognise the state, and of course military service. Other quirks about them is that they cannot take blood transfusions as well. Say one JW kena accident, he would refuse to let the doctor transfuse new blood into him..@ most recycle his old blood

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    Originally posted by jameskuwe@Dec 7 2006, 01:07 PM
    mathsboy, I managed to search out this website for you
    their official website. nothing beats hearing it frim the horses' mouth
    http://www.watchtower.org/
    Hi jameskuwe
    Thanks.
    Will read up about that.

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    Originally posted by jkaiser@Dec 7 2006, 08:16 PM
    if u 1st day enlist, n declare that u're JW (or wat we codenamed johnie walker), u would be isolated immediately. Then we call SAFPU n wait for them pick u up, then u go DB and be their gardener for 2 yrs lor..

    Essentially JW does not recognise the state, and of course military service. Other quirks about them is that they cannot take blood transfusions as well. Say one JW kena accident, he would refuse to let the doctor transfuse new blood into him..@ most recycle his old blood

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    how come the mormons sound like something that came out of the movie TROY?
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    a fren of mine told me that those of JW believed only in their pledge and they can't recite any other pledge... dats why go ns DB straight away..
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    Originally posted by *LoUdNeSS*@January 05, 2007 04:40 am
    a fren of mine told me that those of JW believed only in their pledge and they can't recite any other pledge... dats why go ns DB straight away..
    hmm..
    What I heard was that they don't carry Arms.

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    eh. summarise de whole issue.

    wads a Jehovah's witnesses?

    like some black magic cult thingy?

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    well.. to them it's a religion, but it's not approved officially in Singapore I guess. Just like Falungong. In China u are not allowed to practise Falungong. But here in Singapore, the goverment does not condemn the falungong as long as they do not preach or practise their mass sit-out thingy in public.
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    they have a different thoughts about the world and society..so call extremist..
    my cousin from malaysia encounter a relationship problem with jw member. Her bf of 3 years relationship pester her to join jw, he told her that jw are to be only with jw people, he encourges her to join. however, my cous finds the religion kinnda scary,so she refuse.. the bf then suggested that they part as religion is to be respected and follow... for that my cous was heart-broken and felt dissappointed about him..


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    just stumbled on this thread again... i sorta of noe about the saf's procedures for JW cos that time my unit did mono-intake enlistment and we were briefed..i was the docu clerk.

    Actually i not sure if JW is banned in singapore. But definitely cos of the fact that they dun swear allegiance to the state and the flag, and dun carry arms for the state, hence they are treated as ppl who refuse to serve (there's a term for it, can't really remember).

    As opposed to other ppl who don't wanna serve, JW once they cleared their gardening in DB are released and then never called up. It's probably more than 2 yrs since u wanna deter ppl from pretending to be JW and escaping siong ns.. There is no pt forcing them to serve, as they never will.

    My advice is dun keng n say u JW...i bet the govt will monitor you for the rest of your life..haha! the moment they can prove u keng..then u see how u die
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    yup...it is against their beliefs to take arms...so they cannot serve the military...

    and if you declare yourself as a JW, they will just put you in DB for 3 years...and you are free to go...

    this...i learnt it while i was serving NS also...
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    I heard that they simply become cleaners and flower-planters within the barrack perimeters.

    They lead some sort of an Amish life paid for by the government (food and lodging, that is...)
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    Originally posted by redbeacon@April 02, 2007 11:34 pm
    I heard that they simply become cleaners and flower-planters within the barrack perimeters.

    They lead some sort of an Amish life paid for by the government (food and lodging, that is...)
    wah still alive? yes since they can't take up arms.. the only arms they get is the small spade for gardening lor
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    I was from SAFPU and weekly, there would be this JW coming over from DB to cut hair for us for $2. Yes, they do simple jobs like gardening, cooking etc in DB. They are to give up entire 3yrs of their lifetime in DB, no booking-out whatsoever. I'm not sure whether they are allowed visitors though.

    This particular guy who always come over to cut hair sounds/looks just like any average joe. He chit chat with me just like a normal chap, and he was from polytechnic before he went to DB.

    That's all about what i know about JW, until i read the wikipedia link jkaiser posted previously.


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    Yeah, my NS was at DB, they do all the area cleaning, cooking and mundane stuff, treated like detainee also but not restricted to cell, they got better privileges and freedom. But some serve bit longer that 3 years, depending on the 'sentence' they get get from SAF. They get visiting privileges once a week but they cannot go out of DB. That time when i was in NS got this old guy, late 30s, think he just convert then kena reservist and he declare JW kena DB for 1 year plus.... Best to just Serve And F***off......

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    Met a few since I from SAFMPU, but best to steer clear of it. Best to just serve and leave after 2 years. I remember correctly they will be brought into a room during the BMT intake, and there will be a uniform in the room, they will refuse to don the uniform, and after that they will be taken by the MP.

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    Hmmm...why are they restricted to just visiting priviledges? I don't see them as dangerous, hence, why such treatments? Just because their beliefs is deem unacceptable?

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    JW are cult. Full stop.

    Why do i say that? Bcoz in Christianity, as long as someone tired to add/remove anything from the bible = cult.
    And judging by that, mormons are cults too. Just that maybe they are not making any nuisance that's y S'pore government do not ban them unlike JW who do not want to serve NS.
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    JW is a ****ed up religion.

    i had a serious n firece run in wif them involving my ex-sis n my dad's funeral.

    they are a fxxxed up misguided bunch of idiots.

    report them to e police if possible and eradiacte any of their cell meetings if known. I repeat they are fxxxed up ignorant fools.

    do not let them cross my path ever..**** JW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockytree View Post
    JW is a ****ed up religion.

    i had a serious n firece run in wif them involving my ex-sis n my dad's funeral.

    they are a fxxxed up misguided bunch of idiots.

    report them to e police if possible and eradiacte any of their cell meetings if known. I repeat they are fxxxed up ignorant fools.

    do not let them cross my path ever..**** JW.

    They can't be something like Jihad right? What happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by buttbutt8 View Post
    JW are cult. Full stop.

    Why do i say that? Bcoz in Christianity, as long as someone tired to add/remove anything from the bible = cult.
    And judging by that, mormons are cults too. Just that maybe they are not making any nuisance that's y S'pore government do not ban them unlike JW who do not want to serve NS.
    The government do not ban all cults, they onli ban those cults that do not obey the laws
    Everybody is free to believe in what he/she thinks is right (or wrong). Our government will only step in when they try to disrupt the interests of the gov't, or when they might cause harm to other people
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    I have a Jehovah Witness friend. Now he is serving time in DB for 3.5 years.

    he's a very promising student, top in school and all. wasted!

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