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    Pilot Power is a single compound tyre.

    The 2CT is dual compound and should last longer.
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    Now Michelin produce Dual Compound tyre for use on most sportsbike..

    There is no more single compound tyre for Michelin Sportbike tyre..

    The 3 types of Michelin Sportbike tyres available are :-

    Pilot Road is Dual compound (fixed- center is harder than side)

    Pilot Power is Dual Compound (fixed- center is harder than side)

    Power Race is Dual Compound (with more choices but also center is harder than side)

    In my opinion, they shud create additional compound to add on in thier Menu for the Power Race.. Center softer than Side.. It will be good for Race Use so we will get a more even wear plus it will provide better grip during braking and powering out of corner thus preventing it from wheel spin..

     

     
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    For clarification since it can be quite confusing:

    For the POWER series tyres:

    The Michelin Pilot Power is a single compound tyre.


    The Michelin Pilot Power 2CT is a dual compound tyre.


    The Pilot Power (which is a single compound tyre) is still available but has been superceded by the 2CT version.They may LOOK the same but they are NOT.

    For the Pilot Road series of tyres:

    The Pilot Road is a single compound tyre.


    The Pilot Road 2 is a dual compound tyre.


    Again, the Pilot Road has been superceded by the Pilot Road 2, although the Pilot Road is still available.

    Please do take note of the full names of the tyres as you may not get what you bargained for if you did not mention the last part of the name.

    For the POWER RACE series of tyres:

    They come in 3 compounds, being soft, medium & medium soft

    Soft: Front and rear are single compounds.

    Medium: Front and rear are dual compounds.

    Medium Soft: Front is a dual compound and the rear is a single compound

    See diagram:



    Michelin still do sell the single compound Pilot Roads, Pilot Power & Power Race tyres, as per their official website - Check it Out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartholomew View Post
    For clarification since it can be quite confusing:

    For the POWER series tyres:

    The Michelin Pilot Power is a single compound tyre.


    The Michelin Pilot Power 2CT is a dual compound tyre.


    The Pilot Power (which is a single compound tyre) is still available but has been superceded by the 2CT version.They may LOOK the same but they are NOT.
    from the picture, i can see that 2CT front tyre is smaller than the single compound tyre. remember, 2CT produces smaller front tyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambasnakeman View Post
    from the picture, i can see that 2CT front tyre is smaller than the single compound tyre. remember, 2CT produces smaller front tyre
    Amba, are you kidding me??? It's just a picture yo!
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    i cn c dat the rear tyre is smaller too... well.. its juz a picture...
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    Well, the Pilot Road looks almost 50% bigger than the Pilot Road 2, so it may not fit many bikes too.

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    been having difficulties of gettin a tyre.... i dunno wat tyre to get rite now... will be goin to PG dis sunday hopefully if it aint rainin... ive been using racetech for the last 2 yrs rite now thinking of switching to other brands...as racetech wears quite fast..... i'm not a frequent track rider but racetech givs me the xtra confidence while i'm on the road be it rain or shine....

    i'm thinking of getting a good tyre for track n everyday road use but at the same time i'm only used to the 190/55 profile n dun intent to switch to 180/55. i'm juz spoilt for choice.. been thinkin of gettin either M3, powerace(medium compound) , 2CT, diablo corsaIII.

    can sum1 enlighten me here... Thanx................
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    can sumone enlighten me... im riding a cbr4.. i would like to know what is the best tyre for track use..? not many option for 2A i guess... thankz..
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    Quote Originally Posted by abuzer46 View Post
    can sumone enlighten me... im riding a cbr4.. i would like to know what is the best tyre for track use..? not many option for 2A i guess... thankz..
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    hey kingpet.. thanks..

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpet View Post
    been having difficulties of gettin a tyre.... i dunno wat tyre to get rite now... will be goin to PG dis sunday hopefully if it aint rainin... ive been using racetech for the last 2 yrs rite now thinking of switching to other brands...as racetech wears quite fast..... i'm not a frequent track rider but racetech givs me the xtra confidence while i'm on the road be it rain or shine....

    i'm thinking of getting a good tyre for track n everyday road use but at the same time i'm only used to the 190/55 profile n dun intent to switch to 180/55. i'm juz spoilt for choice.. been thinkin of gettin either M3, powerace(medium compound) , 2CT, diablo corsaIII.

    can sum1 enlighten me here... Thanx................
    If you spend most of your time on the roads, race oriented tires are actually less suitable. It is a well known fact that street tires (e.g. pilot power, M3, 2CT, DCIII) perform better on the streets, as they work well over a much wider temperature range, as well as superior wet weather performance.

    Race tires (e.g. racetechs, powerace) are awsome once up to temperature, but the problem is, you will never reach those temperatures riding on the roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abuzer46 View Post
    can sumone enlighten me... im riding a cbr4.. i would like to know what is the best tyre for track use..? not many option for 2A i guess... thankz..
    u can also try DOT race tyres like Metzeler Rennsport or Michelin Power Race....they both have sizes for 2A biks
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpet View Post
    been having difficulties of gettin a tyre.... i dunno wat tyre to get rite now... will be goin to PG dis sunday hopefully if it aint rainin... ive been using racetech for the last 2 yrs rite now thinking of switching to other brands...as racetech wears quite fast..... i'm not a frequent track rider but racetech givs me the xtra confidence while i'm on the road be it rain or shine....

    i'm thinking of getting a good tyre for track n everyday road use but at the same time i'm only used to the 190/55 profile n dun intent to switch to 180/55. i'm juz spoilt for choice.. been thinkin of gettin either M3, powerace(medium compound) , 2CT, diablo corsaIII.

    can sum1 enlighten me here... Thanx................
    trying out other tyres is a good thing to do.....
    i used racetech in the past and tried pirelli diablo SC2 and like it alot. the pirelli gives u faster turn in.

    still have yet to try metzeler power race, bridestone bt002 and dunlop sportmax GP


    MJ's r6 is on pirelli SC2 on the road at the moment on 36 psi front rear.....dun see and problem in the dry or wet on the roads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartholomew View Post
    Amba, are you kidding me??? It's just a picture yo!
    HEY!!!! i am dead serious
    Don't just break your laptimes, SHATTER them!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambasnakeman View Post
    u can also try DOT race tyres like Metzeler Rennsport or Michelin Power Race....they both have sizes for 2A biks
    but where can i get those DOT race tyres for 2A...? which bike shop..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambasnakeman View Post
    HEY!!!! i am dead serious
    Tamade Hun Dan, how can you draw such a conclusion from a picture????

    Of course they are the same size lah...
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    Quote Originally Posted by abuzer46 View Post
    but where can i get those DOT race tyres for 2A...? which bike shop..?
    Try HKL or something, I know for a fact that the tyres are available even though you may not see them as they are not as common.
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    thanx guys.......ur advices r much appreciated......


    but pirellis r super expensive...... the price difference compared to michelins n metzellers r way too wide......its crazy......! ive make my choice, its either M3 or power race medium compound.... wink! wink! hehehhehehehe.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpet View Post
    thanx guys.......ur advices r much appreciated......


    but pirellis r super expensive...... the price difference compared to michelins n metzellers r way too wide......its crazy......! ive make my choice, its either M3 or power race medium compound.... wink! wink! hehehhehehehe.....
    Hi Kingpet,

    Looks like you are looking at Metzeler's M3 & Michelin's Power Race tyres.

    However, if you are talking about track performance, then your decision will be swayed toward the Power Race tyre as it is a full on DOT race tyre, while the M3 is a Fast Road/Track tyre which is in the same category as Michelin's Pilot Power / Power 2CT tyre.

    Suggest that you compare the M3 with the Power 2CT/Power.

    If you want to compare the Michelin Power Race with a Metzeler, I suggest the Metzeler Race Tech K2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartholomew View Post
    Hi Kingpet,

    Looks like you are looking at Metzeler's M3 & Michelin's Power Race tyres.

    However, if you are talking about track performance, then your decision will be swayed toward the Power Race tyre as it is a full on DOT race tyre, while the M3 is a Fast Road/Track tyre which is in the same category as Michelin's Pilot Power / Power 2CT tyre.

    Suggest that you compare the M3 with the Power 2CT/Power.

    If you want to compare the Michelin Power Race with a Metzeler, I suggest the Metzeler Race Tech K2.
    thanx Hart, but if given the choice, wat tyre wud u suggest as u know i'm nt an avid track rider...but i do giv 100% on the track n always ride hard....

    ur advice is much sought............
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    If you feel you push your own limits on the tracks, please choose Race tyres which would be Power Race, Racetech, Supercorsa, Diablo Supercorsa, etc.

    Yes, I would agree a good rider could probably pass you on a Sportech M3, but many riders here would also agree that during a mistake (overbraking, running wide and the need to lean in more, etc) a race tyre is more forgiving because we are not riding to the limits of these race tyres yet. Damn, we even seen good riders knee dragging on Sports Touring tyres advertisements but they are test riders, way beyond (read better) our levels.

    I hope you get the idea and settle for Dot race tyre since you said you give it 100%. Like all the experience guys here said, set up your suspensions properly, set your race pressure at home, warm up a couple of laps, tyres should not be the 1st thing on your mind while you are having fun in the track. I dun say you need not care about your tyres while in the track, but all you need to know is that you have a good set of worthy tyres that will hold up, and put your mind more for things like makers, lines, blah blah blah blah that you had been taught. When race tyres fade, it will tell you.

    Cheers! I have always been using race tyres and made myself famous during Sepang as the slowest Duck then, but who cares? I came back home in 1 piece.

    Ok, I admit I used Diablo Corsa and Continental ContiForce Max before in PG, but really, race tyres will always be race tyres. And I'm keen not to give it 100% because I am not discilpine and need someone to kick me in the arse always. Looking pretty on my bike and not crashing the bike had been my agenda always
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    Hi Kingpet,

    I have the same sentiments as NoLogicOne.

    If you can, the DOT race tyres will give better grip, provided you take the necessary precautions like he described.

    Get the best tyre you can.
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    yo fellow bros'... well i got myself a powerace n i cn felt dat its much comparable wif racetech. the grip is second to none..... but gt problem wif tyre pressure coz my tyre really look koyak after yesterday trackday... usually i adopt a 28, 28 psi for front n rear for racetech n the worn is even wif no cold tear but yesterday i use 28, 28psi for powerace n the wear is terrible... u hav any suggestion wat pressure to use? my tyre size for rear is 180/55.
    1 more thing... usually i encounter my rear tyre sliding while i'm using racetech but its a controlled type of slide but for powerace, no matter how i bank the corners theres no slide at all.. mayb i'm nt fast enuff.. haha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpet View Post
    yo fellow bros'... well i got myself a powerace n i cn felt dat its much comparable wif racetech. the grip is second to none..... but gt problem wif tyre pressure coz my tyre really look koyak after yesterday trackday... usually i adopt a 28, 28 psi for front n rear for racetech n the worn is even wif no cold tear but yesterday i use 28, 28psi for powerace n the wear is terrible... u hav any suggestion wat pressure to use? my tyre size for rear is 180/55.
    1 more thing... usually i encounter my rear tyre sliding while i'm using racetech but its a controlled type of slide but for powerace, no matter how i bank the corners theres no slide at all.. mayb i'm nt fast enuff.. haha!
    Hi King pet,

    28psi is way too low, especially for the front tyre. Remember, tyre pressures used by expert riders will be lower than intermediate riders, even lower again for beginners.

    Dont take this the wrong way, I am just usign an example and am not inferring to you as a beginner or a slow poke.

    The reason is that the faster you ride, the more heat you generate.

    For example, lets say that a particular tyre is happy at 38psi (hot).

    EXpert riders that ride real fast, brake real hard and gun the bikes out of the corners may be able to generate 8 psi of pressure due to heat expansion of the air in the tyre. Intermediate riders, who obviously cannot ride as hard, will generate less.

    Obviously, if the intermediate rider used the same cold pressures as the expert, he would not be able to bring the pressure high enough, meaning that the tyres would not have enough pressure.

    Simple solution is to use higher pressures, to make up for the lack of heat generation.

    Also, since you mentioned about the differences between the 2 tyres,

    My own opinion about the character of these 2 tyres (Metzeler & Michelin):

    The Metzeler feels more comfy and communicates alot but does not have the drive grip of the Michelin. This is probably why you have not been sliding.

    Exploit the character of the Michelin and crack that throttle open as soon as you can! They do not step out that far when they spin!

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    Awww......Hart had spoken. Very simple and easy to understand.

    To make things as simple as possible, I always make sure my bike is setup properly as much as possible, check the static and rider sag whenever a fren wants to do his/her bike, and I'll take the chance to check my bike too (who knows, maybe I might put on or shave off some weight and checking the sags just put these little things at the bcak of your head in the tracks). It does not hurt to take some measurements just to check. However, I'm not so racer that I need to make sure the tyres I put on would offset the geometry unless I experience way way bad handling which yet to surface.

    Lastly, I used to opt for 30psi front and rear but last couple of sessions before I leave town was 31psi front and rear which I actually prefered more. Most race tyres are recommended at 31F, 29R cold pressure from manufacturers and a +/- of 1 psi is okay according to them. So far the differences between brands are not very much except for the Diablo SuperCorsa which felt almost like a leaking rear tyre at 31psi front and rear. But it's what I feel on my duck, so just my 2 cents. There could be a possiblilty that different bikes would feel better with certain brands of tyres, but you are the pilot, you should know your bike very well.

    Oh, I only had the chance to don 120/70-17 and 180/55-17 race tyres.

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    so far i've nt encountered any problems wif a 28f 28r pressure, but wat pressure wud u suggest best, 30f 28r? the feedback i got wif these michelins r they r super super grippy n they dun slide like the racetechs n even though the front tyre pressure is low, i nvr encounter front tyre sliding or giving way, mayb its nt the time yet. still yet to xperience the full potential of the michelins..... btw... me no a technical racer like our bro hartho mamola here n nt even close to nologicone oso. i juz try to adapt to situations dat i encounter in the track, i nvr even set my suspension sag since the time i got my bike. juz meddle wif the rebound n compression only. its really a gamble...... hahakz.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpet View Post
    so far i've nt encountered any problems wif a 28f 28r pressure, but wat pressure wud u suggest best, 30f 28r? the feedback i got wif these michelins r they r super super grippy n they dun slide like the racetechs n even though the front tyre pressure is low, i nvr encounter front tyre sliding or giving way, mayb its nt the time yet. still yet to xperience the full potential of the michelins..... btw... me no a technical racer like our bro hartho mamola here n nt even close to nologicone oso. i juz try to adapt to situations dat i encounter in the track, i nvr even set my suspension sag since the time i got my bike. juz meddle wif the rebound n compression only. its really a gamble...... hahakz.........
    Hey Kingpet,

    Trust me dude, 28 on the front is especially too soft. I can safely say that if you try a higher pressure, the bike will deifinitely steer better since the profile would be sharper. More air filling the tyre will lend some strength to the carcass, helping it resist deformation under braking, too much deformation will make the bike feel like it is turning on flat tyres, forcing you to muscle the bike into the turn. Remember, we DO WANT some deformation to gain bigger contact patches, but under inflation will make the tyre "fold", giving less grip.

    Like one of my "Shifu" tells me: "Hart, why are you so lazy? Just try, if you dont like it, just release some air lah...Lazy Git..."

    You will never know until you try, for Chrissakes I even rode a few times with 36psi front & rear with my 636 at PG on the past, just to see what it felt like.
    Obviously it was not that great...hahahha.

    I suggest that you get these pressures down pat first, since it can be very confusing when you more than one variable involved. EG: Tyre Pressure and Suspension. Settle one first then go on to another. Even with suspension, never adjust more than one at a time, so that you can isolate the differences made by a single adjustment.

    Reading what you said, I urge you to go get your sag settings right first. You can fiddle around with damping and pressures all you want, but preload and sag settings will affect ride quality ALOT!!! This ride quality is what gives you that confident feel on the bike, which translates into corner speed, which will lead to faster lap times and safer riding on the roads. I remember one time when Joe from Sporting amazed me. We met for dinner and he took a look at my bike, bouncing the forks while it was parked and immediately told me that I needed one more ring of preload. I was skeptical but tried it out. You will not believe how much difference that made! I felt like I was riding a brand new bike back home!

    Get it done. Consult Joe (Sporting) or Henry (Minerva), they both have vast experience and are very helpful. I am sure they will hook you up.

    Lastly, I aint no technical racer bo! Just regurgitating whatever I have learnt/heard from people I trust, or from mistakes made... Suspension is a black art, just like 2 stroke tuning...

    Glad to hear you have discovered the grip of the Michelins. Have fun!

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    I don't know how up-to-date i am with this news, but today i popped down to the mah open house thingy.

    They have finally got 190/55 profile Power Race for sale in medium soft, no mediums apparently.
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    I think the tyre pressure thing is a chicken and egg question.

    If the pressure is set too low, the rider may not ride hard enough to generate enough heat to bring it up to temperature. But because the tyre is flexing more, it might overheat prematurely and give even less grip.

    To allow it to flex less, pump higher pressure so its stiffer. But then since the pressure is higher, it becomes even harder to get the temperature up since it doesn't flex as much.

    For me I just use street tyres at street pressures. My rear tyre reads 45PSI when hot.

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    Hey Hil,

    How's it going mate?

    About the tyres, I have seen those damn things around for some time. Recognise the tread pattern from some time ago. Would not touch them dude. First off, I noticed that they had a category "W" speed rating, which is up to 168 mph. Superbike tyres we use are all "Z" rated which is the highest you can go. Second of all, SHINKO????????

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    Michelin Pilot Power for a DRZ400SM.

    Probably the best and most applicable tyres I have ever put on the bike so far. Excellent grip and durable.

    A 150 rear and 120 front.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartholomew View Post
    Hey Hil,

    How's it going mate?

    About the tyres, I have seen those damn things around for some time. Recognise the tread pattern from some time ago. Would not touch them dude. First off, I noticed that they had a category "W" speed rating, which is up to 168 mph. Superbike tyres we use are all "Z" rated which is the highest you can go. Second of all, SHINKO????????

    When it comes to tyres I am brand conscious.. sorry, the Ah Beng in me has surfaced.

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    I don't think we spend much time above 168mph on the track, do we? Thats 270km/h.

    Anyway Shinko seems to be a popular drag racing tyre in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    Michelin Pilot Power for a DRZ400SM.

    Probably the best and most applicable tyres I have ever put on the bike so far. Excellent grip and durable.

    A 150 rear and 120 front.
    Yup, lots of 'tarded riders recommend to stick with the 150R. I would do that too...see no point in slapping a 160R. 2CT I have no doubts about it, like the DCIII and M3, which are well known. Since you tested the 2CT on the 'tards, I figure I try something else, ha ha ha. Funny me lah, like the dimple looks on the Shinko for some reasons, so will definately try a pair for the heck of it. If it's not good, condamn it to hell And 'tards are good testing machines, unlike sportsbike. Sportsbike I would still go for Dot Race ****....

    Sorry guys, maybe what I really meant is "These Shinko for track on a 'tard?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by nE0 View Post
    I don't think we spend much time above 168mph on the track, do we? Thats 270km/h.

    Anyway Shinko seems to be a popular drag racing tyre in the US.
    Oh, I guess Hart is being extra safe here because though we mostly do not go above 270km/hr on the tracks, but no one can be sure about the NSHW straight blast. Among ourselves, it's easy to just say whatever things and let the individual do their own judgements over kopi session but on the forum we never know who is reading and really digesting whatever we are saying....when one takes everything word for word, oh no....something bad is bound to happen.

    But W rated works well enough for my ex bike with a renowned top speed of 240km/hrs only


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    Hello fellow riders. What do u all think abt Pirelli Diablo Corsa III?
    Pls compare and tell me what u think abt 190/50 & 180/55 ?

    I would like to hear ur feedbacks. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corse View Post
    Hello fellow riders. What do u all think abt Pirelli Diablo Corsa III?
    Pls compare and tell me what u think abt 190/50 & 180/55 ?

    I would like to hear ur feedbacks. Thanks
    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums...d.php?t=137062

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoLogicOne View Post
    Hey Thanks... Currently i'm using the Corsa III. And it feels great. I noticed someone was also saying that Michelin Tyres are really grippy and wont slide out? Actually, any tyres will slide out. it depends on how early and hard u get on ur gas at the exit of ur turn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corse View Post
    Hey Thanks... Currently i'm using the Corsa III. And it feels great. I noticed someone was also saying that Michelin Tyres are really grippy and wont slide out? Actually, any tyres will slide out. it depends on how early and hard u get on ur gas at the exit of ur turn.
    Hi Corse,

    I think that maybe you were talking about what I had said.

    If you look closely, what I said was that Michelins have MORE drive grip and do not STEP out that far when they slide. I also gave my opinion between a few brands.

    I did not say that Michelins do NOT SLIDE at all.

    Please do re-consider what you posted above.

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    Yup, tyres are like underwears, very individual but yet you could get it off the shopping shelves. Remember what works for one will not work for another. An expert even advise me not to use Medium/Soft for Michelins Power Race but the Medium compounds because the Soft on the sides are for qualifying purposes. However, this advise is applicable to me because I admit I am not very senstive to tyres feedback and I'm at a pace where I could only finish off a set of tyres around 7 ~ 8 sessions.

    This thread is towards a sharing concept, not like proven formula. There are guys who still insisting on 190/55 at the end of the day. No one is right or wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartholomew View Post
    Hi Corse,

    I think that maybe you were talking about what I had said.

    If you look closely, what I said was that Michelins have MORE drive grip and do not STEP out that far when they slide. I also gave my opinion between a few brands.

    I did not say that Michelins do NOT SLIDE at all.

    Please do re-consider what you posted above.

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    Hey Corse,

    No worries mate.

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    I've heard that some riders after a few hours on PG with new tyres, when they head back to S'pore, they will sell of their tyres and get new ones for their next track session. I heard that its becuz that some tyres might just burst while riding normally on S'pore road after being used on PG.

    How true is this?

    I've been at PG on a few Saturdays and have met up with the usual riders their, especially the Ang Mo's and they dont change their tyres.

    I've been using my Corsa III for 3 Sessions already, and thats when i had an advice form someone saying to becareful and not to push too hard if not my tyre might just burst. What do u all think guys?


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    was thinking of pilot road2 and diablo corsa III

    any advice??
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    Quote Originally Posted by wait4me View Post
    was thinking of pilot road2 and diablo corsa III

    any advice??
    sorry wrong section.
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    Read "Picking the right tyre for the track". Seriously, would anyone wanna choose Pilot Road 2 for the track? Something wrong with the objective here.

    There's another tyre thread at Accessories, Products & Gadgets. Dun mixed up....since when we even talk about mileage here? We talk about tyre wear measured in "sessions".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corse View Post
    I've heard that some riders after a few hours on PG with new tyres, when they head back to S'pore, they will sell of their tyres and get new ones for their next track session. I heard that its becuz that some tyres might just burst while riding normally on S'pore road after being used on PG.

    How true is this?

    I've been at PG on a few Saturdays and have met up with the usual riders their, especially the Ang Mo's and they dont change their tyres.

    I've been using my Corsa III for 3 Sessions already, and thats when i had an advice form someone saying to becareful and not to push too hard if not my tyre might just burst. What do u all think guys?
    Hey Corse,

    You can take that rumour and trash it. It will not happen, unless there is seriously something wrong with that tyre.

    If it had just been used as it maker had intended it, no matter how hard you run it, there will be NO risk of it exploding after being stressed on a track.

    However, if you run the rubber down to the cords, then of course, it will burst, since you had worn right through the rubber and into the carcass.

    Many riders, myself included have run the same pair of tyres up to 3 "Sepang Round Trips".

    By one round trip, I mean:

    Riding from home to Sepang, Track Day on Saturday evening, Trackday on Sunday Morning, then riding back home. Total mileage for that kinda trip is about 1000 kms.

    If the next Track Day was close enough, we would use the same tire for commuting and do that round trip again.

    So no worries there, the only thing you have to watch out for is lesser grip everytime you trash them.

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