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    Quote Originally Posted by KOSMIK View Post
    Hey guys..just check..the BT003rs in sg..is more street use then track lah. Sg supplier do not bring in the race tyres type 3 or 4..guess..i'll go for pirelli..maybe dragon supercorsa SC2 for trackdays and the diablo supercorsa Pro SC2(if got spare cash) if participating in SMSA race...hahahaha....if not just use the dragon..heard compound same but diff year technology...
    Yep, now I remember why we never used the recent bridgestones - no DOT race tyres available yet.

    The Diablo SC2 is a totally different tyre to the Dragon SC2, even compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOSMIK View Post
    Hey guys..just check..the BT003rs in sg..is more street use then track lah. Sg supplier do not bring in the race tyres type 3 or 4..guess..i'll go for pirelli..maybe dragon supercorsa SC2 for trackdays and the diablo supercorsa Pro SC2(if got spare cash) if participating in SMSA race...hahahaha....if not just use the dragon..heard compound same but diff year technology...
    dragon supercorsa sc2 ....love tis tire...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOSMIK View Post
    Hey guys..just check..the BT003rs in sg..is more street use then track lah. Sg supplier do not bring in the race tyres type 3 or 4..guess..i'll go for pirelli..maybe dragon supercorsa SC2 for trackdays and the diablo supercorsa Pro SC2(if got spare cash) if participating in SMSA race...hahahaha....if not just use the dragon..heard compound same but diff year technology...
    hmmm icic.. actually i just looking for tyres for some free and easy track sessions..
    thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    hmmm icic.. actually i just looking for tyres for some free and easy track sessions..
    thanks!
    don u worry ..bro..dragon supercorsa will b juz good enough...in fact it hav done 1.40 n below in pasir gudang...

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    thanks alot.. will change to dragon supercorsa when budget allows..
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    dragonforce: since u said free and easy.. i can tell u almost any tire as long as it stil has grip is good enuf.. all the track sessions i went to.. i did it on street tires.. no prob at all

    BUT if u r goin for time attack.. tats another story..
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    Hi mates~

    Track newbie here. never been down b4.
    will like to enquire that is a new Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa Pro good enuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soBEit View Post
    Hi mates~

    Track newbie here. never been down b4.
    will like to enquire that is a new Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa Pro good enuff?
    its more then enough : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayang View Post
    dragonforce: since u said free and easy.. i can tell u almost any tire as long as it stil has grip is good enuf.. all the track sessions i went to.. i did it on street tires.. no prob at all

    BUT if u r goin for time attack.. tats another story..
    street tires onli can last u 4-5 laps before ur rear starts slipping ard.. for class2 bikes that is.. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ*82 View Post
    street tires onli can last u 4-5 laps before ur rear starts slipping ard.. for class2 bikes that is.. : )
    i was refering to ppl who r new and the free & easy riding style.. yes street tires cannot be pushed too hard.. but these ppl arent even pushing..

    heck.. i even RECOMMEND street tires for begineer trackies.. that way they can experience wat its like to be on the limit of grip.. and improve their riding skills..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayang View Post
    i was refering to ppl who r new and the free & easy riding style.. yes street tires cannot be pushed too hard.. but these ppl arent even pushing..

    heck.. i even RECOMMEND street tires for begineer trackies.. that way they can experience wat its like to be on the limit of grip.. and improve their riding skills..
    I've (had the mistake of) riding on the track with pure street tyres on my 2A bike in the past. While they provide feedback when they slide and thus your point being, however I found those slides to be distracting and those little slides -- when the tyres regain traction -- it just wants to throw the bike out.

    I've read somewhere that road versus sporty-oriented/track tyres have different materials and internal build, and one heats up quicker than the other. Perhaps a sporty-oriented tyre in the middle of the performance chart should be the better bet for a half-road-half-track enthusiast. Namely stuff like the Metz M3's, Pilot Power's and ....i can't remember the specific BT-00 something tyres that are sport-oriented.

    Maybe these are important factors that one should seriously consider IMO when hitting the tracks, but I'll leave it to the cornering gurus here for sound advice.

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    Maybe some pros can list out what tyres are good enough for track?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayang View Post
    i was refering to ppl who r new and the free & easy riding style.. yes street tires cannot be pushed too hard.. but these ppl arent even pushing..

    heck.. i even RECOMMEND street tires for begineer trackies.. that way they can experience wat its like to be on the limit of grip.. and improve their riding skills..
    lacking of grip improves riding skills? wow : )
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    Ride a supermotard on the tracks and you will learn very fast how to control a sliding bike.. coz they slide very easily.

    You tend to learn very fast coz you got not much choice... its either learn to recognise and control the sliding or crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ*82 View Post
    lacking of grip improves riding skills? wow : )
    i said "on the limit of grip" not "lacking of grip"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayang View Post
    i said "on the limit of grip" not "lacking of grip"
    hahaha... anyways i recommend pirelli dragon sc2. cheap and good!
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    anyone tried corsa III on the track?
    how was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ*82 View Post
    hahaha... anyways i recommend pirelli dragon sc2. cheap and good!
    looks like many good reviews about the dragon sc2.. what about mileage wise? able to last 10 months? 10,000 km? ok, i know grip and mileage dun come hand-in-hand. just hoping to get reasonable mileage out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    looks like many good reviews about the dragon sc2.. what about mileage wise? able to last 10 months? 10,000 km? ok, i know grip and mileage dun come hand-in-hand. just hoping to get reasonable mileage out of it.
    easily last 3 track sessions and ard 10-15k km of road use. but dun expect too much grip on the street as its hard to warm it up in day to day riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost04 View Post
    anyone tried corsa III on the track?
    how was it?
    not bad..
    but the feedback from the tyre isn't that gd compare wif racetec..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ*82 View Post
    easily last 3 track sessions and ard 10-15k km of road use. but dun expect too much grip on the street as its hard to warm it up in day to day riding.
    10-15k km sounds reasonable enough. on the road as long as can grip like other sports-touring tyres would be good enough. thanks alot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aalex82 View Post
    not bad..
    but the feedback from the tyre isn't that gd compare wif racetec..
    ya i felt tat way too...not very confident wit that tire...

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    is a oem bt016 that has done 9000km still good for free and easy track session?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soBEit View Post
    is a oem bt016 that has done 9000km still good for free and easy track session?
    lolz i also want the answer for this!! my bt016 only did 4000km though..

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    haha, hope some pros are able to help us out.
    i tink yours should be ok.
    mine now 8000+

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    best to change a fresh set of tires, at least dun need to worry abt the tire life. seen so many ppl fall bcos of not willing to change tires
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueblood View Post
    best to change a fresh set of tires, at least dun need to worry abt the tire life. seen so many ppl fall bcos of not willing to change tires
    Very true... seen alot of that too. Go 4 laps with no problems and then suddenly lowside in the corner without warning.

    Trying to save a few hundred on tyres only to pay thousands in bike damage repairs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    PILOT POWER
    95% ROAD
    5% CIRCUIT

    PILOT POWER 2CT
    90% ROAD
    10% CIRCUIT

    POWER RACE SOFT / POWER RACE MEDIUM
    30% ROAD
    70% CIRCUIT

    POWER RACE
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    100% CIRCUIT

    These percentages are only a rough guide.

    Lets say your tyres will last you 10,000 km for your style of riding. And of that 10k, you would most likely clock 9.5k on the roads and 500km on the track. The Pilot Power tyres should be good enough and is recommended for you.

    Again you could put on the Power Race Medium/Soft (100% circuit) becoz you are rich enough and ride it on the roads 100% of the time.

    You are most likely just wasting your money thats all. The tyres will never get heated up enough on the streets to perform at their best. Only bling factor is improved.
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    where to get cheapest dragon sc2 for class 2? any recommend?

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    hi all......
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    Hi, i have a question and hopefully the experienced riders can advice on this

    im riding a DRZ SM with bt090 tyres.did a track session recently and started off with tyre pressure of front 28psi and rear 28psi.

    after about 30 mins when i pit i checked my tyres and pressure,the rear tyre was scrubbed heavily but the front had a lot of difference from the rear.it didn't look like it had been scrubbed and the pressure reads front 28.5 and rear 30.5.so i thought the front wasnt heating up enough and i lowered to 26psi instead.at the end of my session then i saw the front being scrubbed like the rear.

    was it just my wrong tyre pressure from the start that caused it to not heat up?or something to do with my suspension set up?anyone?
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    anyone can help..it is good to buy Pilot Pure or Metzeler M5 for Track and Road Use?which has better grip?

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    hey YatZ... my friend bought the Pilot.. to me when i pillion him, the tyre system is when you corner, the tyre just dive in deeper... its freaking crazy.. but now i want to get a new sets of tyre.. for my super4... is it advisable to change to bridgestone? or any tyre recommendation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YatZ CBR View Post
    anyone can help..it is good to buy Pilot Pure or Metzeler M5 for Track and Road Use?which has better grip?
    yoz!
    pilot pure? its either pilot power or power pure dude..which one u referring to?
    also when u mention road and track..when u mention track,is it PG?
    coz if its PG the Metzeler is i use in PG scrubs well unlike the Michelin which is totally scuffed
    I use Metzeler in PG and Pirelli in Sepang
    I do like the Michelins quite a fair bit but the only gripe i got is it doesnt gives u any indication unlike the pirellis which twitch alittle during corners to sort of pre amp u if u overcooked it



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    im a track newbie and im using Metzeler M5..is it suitable for PG use? wld like to hear e experienced riders views on e M5 tyres on PG..

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    having used dragon sc for a year i want to use it again, but looks like out of stock. how does the metzeler k2 interact perform? in terms of grip and mileage..
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    How is the tire pressure for track? normal street i pump 29psi, for track how many i need??

    Btw my tire is 90/80 & 120/70

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    Quote Originally Posted by benster View Post
    How is the tire pressure for track? normal street i pump 29psi, for track how many i need??

    Btw my tire is 90/80 & 120/70

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    On our KR150s we run them at 29 or 30 PSI hot.

    I suggest you ride a few laps with the normal road pressures than bring it down or up till you get the desired pressure with the tyres heated up.

    Nobody can tell you what the cold temperature should be... it all depends on the rider, the track surface condition, temperature and the compound and characteristics of the tyre.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    On our KR150s we run them at 29 or 30 PSI hot.

    I suggest you ride a few laps with the normal road pressures than bring it down or up till you get the desired pressure with the tyres heated up.

    Nobody can tell you what the cold temperature should be... it all depends on the rider, the track surface condition, temperature and the compound and characteristics of the tyre.
    Ic, I always pump 29psi for street; 30psi for track, but some riders said 30 psi is too much for track, so wanted to check it out..

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    Hi guys...need an advice on my tyre and tyre pressure as im goin to pg and it wud be my first time there...im riding a 600rr on a stock dunlop qualifier tyre...wud it be recommended if i were to go on track wif dis tyres and considering dat im a newbie on track...and wat is the tyre pressure for my tyres on track??? Do advice...

     

     
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    Just curious how hard is it to order DOT RACE BT-003 PRO? Are they readily available? Any pricing available?

    @goliath It really depends on how hard you ride...the manufacturers have got a recommended settings which you can use as your baseline. If you planning to ride the circuit like how you ride your twisties when you on the road...the settings you got at the moment might just work

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    i am on m3 street ride i am on 34 front and 39 back. track i am on 30 front 36 back. Ppls do go lower than that.. check with those pro.

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    Hi guys...need an advice on my tyre and tyre pressure as im goin to pg and it wud be my first time there...im riding a 600rr on a stock dunlop qualifier tyre...wud it be recommended if i were to go on track wif dis tyres and considering dat im a newbie on track...and wat is the tyre pressure for my tyres on track??? Do advice...
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    I dunno if these are available in SG if not i can probably get them in....
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    Hi does anyone know how old is a tyre too old for track use? I know the newer the better, but tyre more than how old is not recommended for track use any more?

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    Tyre is very important for bike because it is only touching the surface. So be careful while selecting. Your advice is really good.

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