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    Originally posted by iliew@Feb 25 2004, 11:39 PM
    Hi, anyone out there know the correct spec for spark plug gap for Super4 CB400? I have a VTEC-II.

    I know most people don't gap their own spark plugs and just install them but surely there must be a recommended gap so that we can check new plugs then later clean, check and adjust plugs. Also where is a good place to buy a gap meter?
    Does the owner's manual state the proper gap?
    Even the smallest spark can start a massive forest fire...

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    Originally posted by iliew@Feb 26 2004, 07:13 PM
    Spark plug gap refers not to the valve, but to the distance between the electrodes on the spark plug itself. For example, I have NGK CR8EH-9's in front of me. On the box diagram, step 1 tells you to check the gap and shows you exactly what the gap is.

    Every engine (bike, car, whatever) has a spark plug gap specification for it to run optimally. When I tuned my own car when I was studying in the US, one of the things I would do is measure and set the gap before installing each spark plug. It can be done using a very cheap tool that looks like a disc with varying thickness all the way around. Usually the gap specification is in the owner's manual but I don't have the manual for my VTEC II.

    Here is a site that shows this for a different bike but concept is the same:
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    Wow I am impressed. I have learned something. I personnally seen those gauge from my friends B4 but never seen anyone selling it

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    Hi all just to find out what will have if one of your spark plug gone? i mean fused. What will have to the bike? No power? cannot start at all? Anyone kanna before?
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    woa lan u come back only post ar... champion....

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    Originally posted by HondaSuperFour(HSF)@Mar 2 2004, 02:26 AM
    Hi all just to find out what will have if one of your spark plug gone? i mean fused. What will have to the bike? No power? cannot start at all? Anyone kanna before?
    veri difficult to start if can aso idle like your choke is on you can hardly move off not to mention power in hokkien terms is call 'sar kang hwa' no no to the engine condition
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    when u installed yr own spark plug that time..u try it...u still can run..can start...no problem...onli a bit no strength..
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    Originally posted by HondaSuperFour(HSF)@Mar 2 2004, 02:26 AM
    Hi all just to find out what will have if one of your spark plug gone? i mean fused. What will have to the bike? No power? cannot start at all? Anyone kanna before?
    the biggest tell tale sign... ur bike sounds like a v twin bike...

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    Originally posted by HondaSuperFour(HSF)@Mar 2 2004, 03:26 AM
    Hi all just to find out what will have if one of your spark plug gone? i mean fused. What will have to the bike? No power? cannot start at all? Anyone kanna before?
    u will experience drop of power.

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    can start but not power like ti used to be.



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    So Here is the summary of all posts when 1 spark plug not working

    1) No power
    2) Just like choke is on
    3) Can start
    4) sound funny
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    Still no-one who knows the spark plug gap specification? Anyone with the CB400 manual?

     

     
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    Oh I have it but dunno put where liao... go home check

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    0.8-0.9mm

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    Great, thanks ivant -- and someone with the same name as me!

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    which one is better??
    Ngk iridum ro Denso??

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    depend on u loh... actually price is the only difference... both r quite good plugs.



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    dicussed b4!
    do a search!

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/...howtopic=34562


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    Just get the cheapest plugs denso $4-5 per plug.
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    actual it don't really matter ...
    you can't really feel the much different unless you change the full set
    i used to use splitfire for my s4 even with the cable
    yes i agree that it may increase 1 or 2 hp but not for long

    according to my mech, the performance will not last ... you can check the plug after 3mth, the condition is like having to change a new one liao...
    and it so much expensive
    now change back to normal honda NGK plug liao

    hope it help you with your decision ...
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    actually normal one will do but if you think you got the money to spend then buy more expensive one. NOT MUCH different lah...
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    wat abt splitfire?

     

     
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    me using NGK now... &#036;6.50 per plug
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    finally.. i switched to YAMAHA

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    Try before both brands Good for smaller bikes cos veri easy to kick start As for response pretty good lor One thing is it may help you to prolong the period(subjective depend on manufacturing and wear n tear) b4 your next services For me i using NGK iridium pretty good not as bad as denso and veri easy to start after prolong period of not using the bikes

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    hey guys,

    do you know which spark plug is the best to use for vtec1??? i tot of changing from NGK iridium to DENSO iridium.... or maybe use back the NGK factory fitted plug is the best????

    i heard using iridium plug will cause the piston head to wear??? izzit true???
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    normal one gd enuff
    No Time To Think Of One

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    Originally posted by [V]tec@Aug 2 2004, 08:21 PM
    normal one gd enuff
    which is ???
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    Get cheap one loh...
    Think is &#036;8 per plug...

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    izzit the stock spark plug is not good.. i feel sometimes i press the ignition switch two times then the engine start leh.......

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    Originally posted by [V]tec@Aug 2 2004, 09:21 PM
    normal one gd enuff

    start plug noraml one will do liao

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    the brand of the normal is ?? hee. sorry noob to spark plugs.
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    Standard plugs no.8 wil b gd enough.
    bike ez start anot depends on cold or warm plug 1 use, others factors olso contribute 2 e startin of bike.


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    I always buy from LAB. densol &#036;5 per piece. DIY
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    Normal will do.

    Expensive easily spolit - sports model, petrol consume more too.

    Normal last longer and better FC.
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    Originally posted by ekin101@Aug 3 2004, 01:40 PM
    I always buy from LAB. densol &#036;5 per piece. DIY
    just tell them, super 4 original spark plug can liaoz si boh??
    how to diy ?? can roughly teach??
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    Originally posted by Scorpione_phantom@Aug 3 2004, 11:50 PM
    just tell them, super 4 original spark plug can liaoz si boh??
    how to diy ?? can roughly teach??
    More than 1.5 almost 2 years of riding 3 diff bikes, u still got no idea on spark plugs and how to change them ??

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    where u stayin?? can drop by my plcae during weekend... can teach u.

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    Originally posted by S4Sixty@Aug 4 2004, 01:33 AM
    More than 1.5 almost 2 years of riding 3 diff bikes, u still got no idea on spark plugs and how to change them ??
    eh how u know i ride three diff bikes le ?? hahaha... haha actually i know how to change lar.. done on saf scramblers before.. but hor, no body teach i don&#39;t dare touch 4 strokers leh. hee. no proper tools also. so didn&#39;t bother to find out. haha
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    Originally posted by FunkyChicken@Aug 5 2004, 01:32 AM
    where u stayin?? can drop by my plcae during weekend... can teach u.
    realli ? that&#39;s coolz.. what proper tools do i need for the changing of plugs??
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    Originally posted by ekin101@Aug 3 2004, 01:40 PM
    I always buy from LAB. densol &#036;5 per piece. DIY
    i buy from LAB tis NGK G-Power spark plug, &#036;4/plug, DIY also. not bad i feel
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    Originally posted by Scorpione_phantom@Aug 5 2004, 05:08 PM
    realli ? that&#39;s coolz.. what proper tools do i need for the changing of plugs??
    the only special tool u&#39;ll need is a special spark plug remover for S4 (buy from LAB &#036;7 but i get for &#036;5 ). its longer cause S4 spark plug r fixed deep inside. the rubber thingy on top of the spark plug is removed by shifting the thing left n rite n in the same time upwards, repeat tis n the thing will come out. use the spark plug remover with a spanner n remove the plugs lor
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    change our plug need to remove the tank or not? hehee.. the plugs are inside the red cover thing rite?? hee . hmmm. LAB LAB.. going down see see liaoz. &#036;4 per plug~~~&#33;&#33; that&#39;s great.. hee. save
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    LAB &#036;5 denso good enuff..
    think onli pb1 no need to remove tank e rest all need to remove tank for changing of plugs..

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    becareful when buying ngk plug..........
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    hi i newbie in here. btw can anyone send me where is LAB. thank guys

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    Originally posted by Scorpione_phantom@Aug 5 2004, 08:07 PM
    change our plug need to remove the tank or not? hehee.. the plugs are inside the red cover thing rite?? hee . hmmm. LAB LAB.. going down see see liaoz. &#036;4 per plug~~~&#33;&#33; that&#39;s great.. hee. save
    take out tank easier to do lor
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    Originally posted by [V]tec@Aug 5 2004, 08:33 PM
    becareful when buying ngk plug..........
    can explain?
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    Originally posted by Scorpione_phantom@Aug 5 2004, 05:07 PM
    eh how u know i ride three diff bikes le ?? hahaha... haha actually i know how to change lar.. done on saf scramblers before.. but hor, no body teach i don&#39;t dare touch 4 strokers leh. hee. no proper tools also. so didn&#39;t bother to find out. haha
    How i know ?
    1) Ur nick states Phantom
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    How&#39;s that ??

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    Originally posted by Scorpione_phantom@Aug 5 2004, 08:07 PM
    change our plug need to remove the tank or not? hehee.. the plugs are inside the red cover thing rite?? hee . hmmm. LAB LAB.. going down see see liaoz. &#036;4 per plug~~~&#33;&#33; that&#39;s great.. hee. save
    need to remove the tank. pb1 dun need... not sure for verS. aniwae got tools for it like wat redname said....LAB is sellin.

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    Originally posted by FunkyChicken@Aug 6 2004, 01:34 AM
    need to remove the tank. pb1 dun need... not sure for verS. aniwae got tools for it like wat redname said....LAB is sellin.
    eh ...how u remove the tanks??? complicated???

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    Originally posted by pum9kin_h3ad@Aug 6 2004, 02:54 AM
    eh ...how u remove the tanks??? complicated???
    haha, of cuz easy lah, i so stupid also can remove, u sure can one lah. jus remove ur seat 1st, then u&#39;ll see 2 screws holding the tank to the bike, unscrew them then tilt the tank forward by holding lifting up the part where the screws were holding the tank. ur tank now can be removed. i normally jus remove with the fuel hose still attached n let it lay against the handlebar but if u want to, u can remove the fuel hose also lor. when u wanna put back ur tank, note tht there two rubber round things on the frame tht ur tank needs to grip on to. its jus like sloting the tank it cause ur tank will have two "C" brackets made nicely to fit the rubber thingys. hope tis can help n
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