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  • Shell 92

    25 5.41%
  • Shell 95

    100 21.65%
  • Shell 98

    59 12.77%
  • Shell V Power

    59 12.77%
  • ESSO

    97 21.00%
  • SPC

    38 8.23%
  • Gold with Techron 98

    13 2.81%
  • Silver with Techron 95

    33 7.14%
  • Dont pump in Singapore at all or sometimes only, prefer to pump in malaysia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachery View Post
    wat is the diff with malaysia petrol and sg petrol ?
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    sg petrol supposed to be cleaner coz the pump got regularly inspected for rust and stuffs..... My may not be that strict in this and may be "contaminated". But generally, it is all the same stuff but at a cheaper price.
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    oic ... haha .. but i nv pump in sg be4 leh !!! lolx thou i am a new rider haha ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kusa View Post
    my FC stays 30-32km/L (so little -_-) for shell 95 98 vpower.. haha not much diff =\
    Is your's TA150? Just curious cos my dad's TA150 gas consumption is similar to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUphan View Post
    sg petrol supposed to be cleaner coz the pump got regularly inspected for rust and stuffs..... My may not be that strict in this and may be "contaminated". But generally, it is all the same stuff but at a cheaper price.
    You bet!! I don't find any difference in quality for both gases only difference in price... 50% discount!!! Can you beat that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexanez View Post
    I usually pump shell 98 but if its really true that 95 is better then i'll guess i will be changing to 95 then, the price difference is quite significant.
    Not much difference for bikes. If I'm too lazy to fill up gas at JB, I'll go to the nearest gas station here and fill up with 92 formula for my Busa... no difference in FC and mileage.

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    lol ain't that what yr bro does too?? hoho brothers alike aye? ups
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai View Post
    Is your's TA150? Just curious cos my dad's TA150 gas consumption is similar to that.
    Are u sure it's a TA150? Because that's insane (low) and very much impossible IMO.
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    for my bike .. i using esso 95 .. it seems more power than 98

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    ta200 using 92, ok???

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    the major difference between 92, 95 and 98 is the compression ratio.

    the higher the digit refers to how much it can be compressed. this being formula 98. the more it can be compressed, the higher the energy output upon ignition. this can be compared to the same analogy as a balloon.

    when you squeeze the air in a balloon to a much smaller area of what it normally occupies and then burst it, the 'pop' is louder than when it is at undisturbed state.

    hence, the more you can compress, the more energy you get. for small bikes, using formula 98 gives you more power because of this phenomenon. however because more fuel can be compressed into a cylinder, this also means higher consumption rate. this explains why pumping 98 has poorer mileage.

    for larger CC bikes pumping 92 would be suffice because the cylinder is already large enough to produce the similar performance when you pump 98. so why waste money?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jB View Post
    lol ain't that what yr bro does too?? hoho brothers alike aye? ups
    He learned that from me ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheYasMan View Post
    Are u sure it's a TA150? Because that's insane (high) and very much impossible IMO.
    Perhaps. As it is a 2-stroker (more piston movements = more FC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai View Post
    He learned that from me ...
    lol i did ask him why 92 before..his explanation left me dumbfounded. just one sentence enough liao
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2015 View Post
    ta200 using 92, ok???
    Sure, why not... Made in Thailand bikes are very economical bikes indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jB View Post
    lol i did ask him why 92 before..his explanation left me dumbfounded. just one sentence enough liao
    Haha!!! What brilliant explanation did he give?

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    When I rented a bike in the US last year, their gas stations only had RON89 petrol as the highest grade ... hmmm... I think I'll try RON92 on my bike for the next few tanks to see any difference or not.. could do with some petrol savings..
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    Nicholai: sorry, i meant its very good FC. TA150's FC will never reach 30km/L. It is absolutely impossible IMO.
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    i usually use shell92 for rounding or so, and higher grades for daily transport uses.. but then again to think back using shell92 for normal daily usage is also fine cos petrol will always be the same - it just brings you from point a to b.

    occasionally using those "cleaning petrol" like techron, vpower maybe helps, that's my opinion and some other's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheYasMan View Post
    Nicholai: sorry, i meant its very good FC. TA150's FC will never reach 30km/L. It is absolutely impossible IMO.
    It is quite possible if you lower the timing of the engine, but constant and gradual activation of the throttle needed especially when going up slopes. Haha!! My dad didn't even bother to increase the timing.

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    lol he told me he read the manual and sth stating at least 91 grade, cuz singapore lowest is 92 so he pumped that? I was like woah? busa pump 92..haha ok la yr bro pamper busa alot seeing him go into m'sia so often also.
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    pump higher grade seemed to have lower mileage.

    so use 92 sounds logical.

    anyway, my ta200 FC is 27km/liter. saw 3 different mech all said engine is alright .. guess its my riding style. always like to drag lower gear at almost 80% throttle.

    dun bother lah, fuel is cheap compare to a car ..

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    yea..full tank still can't go above 20 bucks..hmm V-power think max for me i tried slightly above 14 or so..
    long time no pump full tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almondking View Post
    pump higher grade seemed to have lower mileage.

    so use 92 sounds logical.

    anyway, my ta200 FC is 27km/liter. saw 3 different mech all said engine is alright .. guess its my riding style. always like to drag lower gear at almost 80% throttle.

    dun bother lah, fuel is cheap compare to a car ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai View Post
    It is quite possible if you lower the timing of the engine, but constant and gradual activation of the throttle needed especially when going up slopes. Haha!! My dad didn't even bother to increase the timing.
    I disagree completely. Not logical enough to have such good FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheYasMan View Post
    I disagree completely. Not logical enough to have such good FC.
    agree with yasman,i myself is a 150 rider and the best i ever got would be 27 km per litre that is with conservative riding at 80km max and also using shell 98
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    mine's around 340-380 km per tank...

    since last week i started pumping GP Shell vpower racing.

    yesterday i pumped 9.84L for RM20.75. cheap man..

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    I prefer Shell or Caltex Petrol cause in morning easy start up but when using esso/mobil snergy always must crank a few times to start.

    Now Shell retails hv been taken over by 7-11 which dun accept CC payment if less than $20. So no choice use back Mobil/esso privilage which link to my CC acc. Miss Shell fuel....

    Caltex station is too far away from my place rather in convenience.

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    I remember that a few days ago .. reading the straits time .. it says that Esso has more pertol station than shell .. followed by Caltex and lastly SPC ..

    Anyway, fuel prices are up .. pumping Esso 8000 cost me 1.84 per litre
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    OMG already? sia la.. soon 92 is gonna be $3 per Litre.. -.-'''

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    Pump diesel next time round

    today downgrade my petrol from Esso 8000 to 5000 .. 10+L = 18.00

    Not much difference in power .. maybe i'll switch to 5000
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    lol.. phantom Diesel engine.. how cool is that..?

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    Diesel Phantom Good lehz .. no need spark plugs .. haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by queirtus View Post
    agree with yasman,i myself is a 150 rider and the best i ever got would be 27 km per litre that is with conservative riding at 80km max and also using shell 98

    Im getting only 20km/L max......maybe i whack too much.....

    well firstly im on the "PLUS" so extra load there
    Secondly.....i usually on the average speed of 110-120 on expressway

    maybe must change riding style liao lah....more relax....

    Is it true that TA150 and SP use same engine?

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    lol.. same ar.. i was riding TA150 too. then i realized the FC too high.. i was getting like 22km/L..

    yes, same engine Blackenese.. only diff is maybe the aerodynamics and pistons.. lol..

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    sorry off topic,
    and the looks you get when other students in sch look at you with the stock bike, if modded then different kinda view liao replay's diff so can hook up his current gf huh? tehehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by jB View Post
    replay's diff so can hook up his current gf huh? tehehe
    what's up with that?

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    off topic again
    haha chil la jk jk..dude why never join us for big bikes today dang so nice..
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    usually wat the mileage from full tank to reserve... mi onli managed to clock 310km then reserve liao

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    working leh.. had a one day lobang to make money.. so took up the offer..

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    How come so few ppl use SPC ar? Is it expensive or no good ? Cos my nearest petrol station is SPC.

     

     
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    i used SPC till i learnt how to go to m'sia

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweakmax2 View Post
    usually wat the mileage from full tank to reserve... mi onli managed to clock 310km then reserve liao
    about 350 - 400 km? depending how you ride .. usually, from full tank to reserve,
    is about 8litres .. reserve has about 3litre if i'm not wrong .. unless u keep on wacking like mad, from 60km reserve, can become 30km .. haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackenese View Post
    well firstly im on the "PLUS" so extra load there
    today... i realize what u mean..

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    jus switched to pump esso 5000 cos near my house and also caltex silver occasionally. FC not much difference ard +-35.

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    Main tank - 8.5L
    Reserve - 2.7L

    Total - 11.2L

    Hope this helps!

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    2 stroke per cycle and 4 is 4 per cycle, so lets assume a 125cc engine similar in everyway, except one is 2 stroke e other 4 stroke....

    4stroke FC-40km/L
    2stroke FC-20km/L

    ok u can see e diff is 50% diff, cuz from moment fuel enters to e next intake of fuel, 2 stroke can take in 2 times if 4 stroke takes in one time, and also u'll notice dat HP rating 2 stroke will be more or less 50% more den 4 stroke...

    all this is juz a rough gist of why 2 stroke consumes more petrol den 4 stroke,so dun ask me why TA150 even less by 50cc compared to TA200 and being a 2stroke bike can consume L/22km-L/27km, instead of only 19 or lesser...cuz im not quite sure too....

    maybe its e RC valve thats doin e trick, cuz im assumin dat it'll channel back some amts of exhaust back into e combustion chamber as premix of air and fuel...cuz 2 strokes are known to be inherently fuel inefficent, as fuel doesn't get burn completely...so it make sense to channel it back to burn off e unburn hydrocarbons....

    hehhee paiseh ah...to ah pek liao, longwinded....
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    very informative hamsterwhale bro!

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    i just realised why the voting section like no caltex? or isit i just woke up seh seh can't find it :S
    Click below link or copy+paste for good deals!
    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/417915-WTS-Shoei-XR-1100-Diabolic-Cimmerian-Mint-Condition-L-Size-CHEAP!-9-8-10?p=8191458#post8191458

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/406472-WTS-Blaupunkt-Style-Headphones-Unopened-BNIB!

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    bro its written as techron...

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