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    Question Prisons??



    Just very curious... Almost no one thought of joining Prisons, y??

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    who say no one??
    becoming a prison officer is 2nd on mi list of jobs, the 1st being policeman.

     

     
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    The Senior Officer's course in Prisons:-

    a) normally how many ppl per batch ah?
    b) when does the course starts?
    c) how many batches per year?

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    there are a few prison officers here in sbf that i know of..
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    Do you think a genuine interest in the job is necessary?

    To me, a prison can be quite a depressing place to work in, especially if intended as a lifelong career.

    The salary for SO is relatively high, about 3k for those with NS.But money may not be everything..
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    Quote Originally Posted by na3r1 View Post
    Do you think a genuine interest in the job is necessary?
    Nah. Of course not.

    Quote Originally Posted by na3r1
    To me, a prison can be quite a depressing place to work in, especially if intended as a lifelong career.
    This is very true ah boss. Depressing indeed.


    Quote Originally Posted by na3r1
    The salary for SO is relatively high, about 3k for those with NS.But money may not be everything..
    Ok la not bad, but money not everything, very true. Alot of OT or not ah Prisons? Sat/Sun need to come back?

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    actually in this line..

    u must have the interest
    as in more to having a heart...

    being a warden isnt as simple as it is..

    people usually think..
    oh working in the cell..
    depressing..
    actually its more of being a fren and helping the inmates get through plus doing security..
    but its really a job that aint about the money..
    its about whether u can deal with the inmates and lend a helping hand.

    if u're talking about the money..
    my previous work as a simple pantry girl for the vips..
    i earn 2000 a mth and that does not include the tips that i get everyday
    which usually each day i usually get $50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuLL of SoRRoW View Post
    if u're talking about the money..
    my previous work as a simple pantry girl for the vips..
    i earn 2000 a mth and that does not include the tips that i get everyday
    which usually each day i usually get $50.
    your point being? u r paid very high? and that one shd be a pantry girl all her life?

    prolly slightly lesser than my starting pay shd i join Prisons if urs is ($2000 + $50 x 22days).

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    your point being? u r paid very high? and that one shd be a pantry girl all her life?

    prolly slightly lesser than my starting pay shd i join Prisons if urs is ($2000 + $50 x 22days).
    that wasnt wat i meant..
    wat i am trying to say..
    if people go for the job for the money..
    its crazy..
    my point here is that the job is more to going for it not for the case of money..
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    The Senior Officer's course in Prisons:-

    a) normally how many ppl per batch ah?
    b) when does the course starts?
    c) how many batches per year?
    you ans:-
    a) one batch can reached about 50-70, that includes prison officers & senior prison officers... senior prison officers will stand at about 1/3 of the group.
    b) it depends on the training school, it's not fix... once a cohort is goin to pass out soon, the school will then schedule when the next training will be...
    c) mostly 2 batches per yr, at times there might be 3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcol83 View Post
    you ans:-
    a) one batch can reached about 50-70, that includes prison officers & senior prison officers... senior prison officers will stand at about 1/3 of the group.
    b) it depends on the training school, it's not fix... once a cohort is goin to pass out soon, the school will then schedule when the next training will be...
    c) mostly 2 batches per yr, at times there might be 3...
    Thanks alot bro. All my qns answered.

     

     
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    I was interested in joining prison as a warden after I completed my contract with the police force. The prison warden salary scale not bad. However, my mrs was against the idea of me working 3 shifts again and she didn't like the idea of me being cooped up with convicts. She always has this mindset that I will beat up the prisoners there and once they are out, they will come and look for me...
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    correct mi if i'm wrong, i tink currently, senior prison officer is in shortage so they are recruiting aggresively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttbutt8 View Post
    correct mi if i'm wrong, i tink currently, senior prison officer is in shortage so they are recruiting aggresively?
    i would say they are more shortage of junior officer then senior officer...

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    Always thought they had enough JO. How wrong i am.

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    how about the civilian positions ? Hases, MSOs and CSOs

    haha nobody here interested ? its like the army man, civilian positions gets about %30 less den uniformed positions lols
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    I got a question 2 ask,
    recently i wen for the psychometric test, n now i am just waiting for their interview.. may i know how long do they take 2 reply us 4 the interview?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_crystal View Post
    I got a question 2 ask,
    recently i wen for the psychometric test, n now i am just waiting for their interview.. may i know how long do they take 2 reply us 4 the interview?
    2 weeks or less...
    unless they have more people taking the test..
    it will be a month.
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    Can't disagree more with some of you here' I've been working in SPS for 5 years now and there's lots of things to be smiling about.

    For those of are thinking of joining SPS, you'd be happy to know that your bond does not go into effect until you begin training. In the meantime, you will be placed on attachment in the various institutions and work locations to let you have a feel of the job. If you don't like it, you can resign and you will not have to pay any bond if you have not started training. The attachment is also full-pay.

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    I think there needs to be continuity in almost all sectors of the workforce, which is why SPS is still promoting their recruitment. Otherwise, attrition will dwindle the workforce and we will face a labour shortage. Smart heads will pre-empt this and devise strategies to prevent such from happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    I think there needs to be continuity in almost all sectors of the workforce, which is why SPS is still promoting their recruitment. Otherwise, attrition will dwindle the workforce and we will face a labour shortage. Smart heads will pre-empt this and devise strategies to prevent such from happening.
    bro, haha you sounded like a AD-CS (in the making) lols. I used to be from SPS too lols, you're still there?

    anyway i totally agree with your statement, it is imperative that every organization has a consistent and constant of flow of manpower & resources to cover up the gaps.

    Especially with the attractive offers from the private sector now, i feel that a career in the civil service isnt the natural first choice of some individuals now compared to last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Can't disagree more with some of you here' I've been working in SPS for 5 years now and there's lots of things to be smiling about.

    For those of are thinking of joining SPS, you'd be happy to know that your bond does not go into effect until you begin training. In the meantime, you will be placed on attachment in the various institutions and work locations to let you have a feel of the job. If you don't like it, you can resign and you will not have to pay any bond if you have not started training. The attachment is also full-pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeldogleslie View Post
    bro, haha you sounded like a AD-CS (in the making) lols. I used to be from SPS too lols, you're still there?

    anyway i totally agree with your statement, it is imperative that every organization has a consistent and constant of flow of manpower & resources to cover up the gaps.

    Especially with the attractive offers from the private sector now, i feel that a career in the civil service isnt the natural first choice of some individuals now compared to last time.
    I'm not too sure about career opportunities that are opening up in the private sector. I've been working with my eyes closed to the outside for so long. However, myself and another similar-ranking friend had calculated and we conclude that in order for us to jump over to the private sector, we would have to earn at least double our present salary. This is to cover costs such as transportation (I stay in the quarters), uniforms (outside must buy working clothes, expensive!) and added job responsibilities.

    Given these factors, and the volatility of private sector jobs as compared to the civil service, we would opt to keep our jobs.

    Haha... I think you are refering to ADSD not ADCS... hehehe... I cannot be an ADSD... I'm only a PO not an SPO... lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrredbull View Post
    desewer....i think i know you...hee hee hee....
    Well... I wonder whom I know rides a blue XJR with RedBull design... so many... lolz

    Bro is Full Of Sorrow one of us too? I think she is... but I've never seen that yellow DRZ anywhere near our workplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Well... I wonder whom I know rides a blue XJR with RedBull design... so many... lolz

    Bro is Full Of Sorrow one of us too? I think she is... but I've never seen that yellow DRZ anywhere near our workplace.
    i don think she rides a yellow DRZ... do u, Full Of Sorrow??

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Well... I wonder whom I know rides a blue XJR with RedBull design... so many... lolz

    Bro is Full Of Sorrow one of us too? I think she is... but I've never seen that yellow DRZ anywhere near our workplace.
    bro, sure or not??i also never see her bike leh...what bike huh?
    hahahaha...where have u beenbro? have not seen you very long leow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrredbull View Post
    bro, sure or not??i also never see her bike leh...what bike huh?
    hahahaha...where have u beenbro? have not seen you very long leow....
    Super packed lah my timetable... 8am to 5pm work... 6pm to 10pm night class 3 times a week... weekends family time...

    My bike has been neglected, sadly. My wheel project is only halfway through since April. And I have not had the chance to wash it until now.

    Maybe when my school holiday starts in 2 weeks time I'll have the opportunity to do up the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Super packed lah my timetable... 8am to 5pm work... 6pm to 10pm night class 3 times a week... weekends family time...

    My bike has been neglected, sadly. My wheel project is only halfway through since April. And I have not had the chance to wash it until now.

    Maybe when my school holiday starts in 2 weeks time I'll have the opportunity to do up the bike.

    ye kah? tot you go vacation hahahahahahah.....
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    That too. Going up to KL on Thursday, I'll be back on Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    That too. Going up to KL on Thursday, I'll be back on Sunday.
    happy vacation bro..via bike or flight or walking or jogging...or.....heheheheh....
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    Driving up... but taking a train back Saturday overnight. Weird, eh?


     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Driving up... but taking a train back Saturday overnight. Weird, eh?

    then what happen to the car?
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    Car become Transformer and can go back on its own. (step-down transformer lolz)

    Someone else who's going with me will be driving it back lah. I'm staying there for a few more nights.

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    haha, i used to be deployed in hq lols, civilian staff. now i'm no longer there already lols, due to NS.

    Oh its ADSD huh not ADCS lols, oh ya! i remember already lols. Recently there was some top management change. haha

    So how is work on the ground? i've been to everywhere except cwp lols. At that time, guys werent allowed in except my boss but now its better already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by angeldogleslie View Post
    haha, i used to be deployed in hq lols, civilian staff. now i'm no longer there already lols, due to NS.

    Oh its ADSD huh not ADCS lols, oh ya! i remember already lols. Recently there was some top management change. haha

    So how is work on the ground? i've been to everywhere except cwp lols. At that time, guys werent allowed in except my boss but now its better already.


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    For SPO, faster to go up rank in SPS or SCDF, as a comparison?

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    Everywhere it's the same. Meritocracy is practiced. However, if you are a workaholic or are good at sucking/carrying testicles, then you get accelerated promotion.

    I've seen good people who are workaholics get promoted fast. I've also seen ass-kissers and testicle-carriers get promoted fast without showing much potential or producing much output. Right under my very nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeldogleslie View Post
    Sept is coming!!! YRP !!!!
    Yup, so what if YRP is coming? Nothing special. Most of the prisoners are quite reformed within the prison walls. It's what they get involved in OUTSIDE that affects the recidivism rate.


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    desewer is what rank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    desewer is what rank?
    Not to be revealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Not to be revealed.
    Why cannot reveal? U went in with A-lvl after TPJC right?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    desewer is what rank?
    he is high ranking!

    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Yup, so what if YRP is coming? Nothing special. Most of the prisoners are quite reformed within the prison walls. It's what they get involved in OUTSIDE that affects the recidivism rate.


    i agree very much with you desewer....

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    Everywhere it's the same. Meritocracy is practiced. However, if you are a workaholic or are good at sucking/carrying ttesticles, then you get accelerated promotion.

    I've seen good people who are workaholics get promoted fast. I've also seen ass-kissers and testicle-carriers get promoted fast without showing much potential or producing much output. Right under my very nose.
    true true, i see one right before my armpits....
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrredbull View Post
    he is high ranking!
    No lah, where got...

    Anyway if anyone planning to sign on as SPO, the rank doesn't mean much anymore nowadays. Everywhere you turn can see ASP here and there. I talk to some DSPs as if they were my peers (these DSPs have really great interpersonal skills), and certain SUPTS also talk to us POs without all the formality of vastly differing ranks.

    I guess this is where we are headed, since we have long tried to "bridge the gap" between POs and SPOs.

    Am I talking too much?

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    So what rank are u?

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    Quote Originally Posted by desewer View Post
    Everywhere it's the same. Meritocracy is practiced. However, if you are a workaholic or are good at sucking/carrying testicles, then you get accelerated promotion.
    I've seen good people who are workaholics get promoted fast. I've also seen ass-kissers and testicle-carriers get promoted fast without showing much potential or producing much output. Right under my very nose.
    Yup. Everywhere in the workforce if you know how to BBC (Bodek, Bedek, Cerdik), confirm will get a promotion fast...
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    my DM who worked as a army officer. he say he also working in prison. did not really know wad he worked as. at first. i thought he talk **** only. cause he always joke around de. den last time when i was rather naughty. after being caned by him. he showed me the pictures of prisoners being caned. you see already. confirm 1st reaction " WAH " and he told me he saw ppl being caned alot of times. he worked for more then 30years. but he told me that within that 30years. he did not seen anyone walking out after being caned. everyone confirm SHOUT de. even the BIGGEST GANGSTER IN SG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky99 View Post
    my DM who worked as a army officer. he say he also working in prison. did not really know wad he worked as. at first. i thought he talk **** only. cause he always joke around de. den last time when i was rather naughty. after being caned by him. he showed me the pictures of prisoners being caned. you see already. confirm 1st reaction " WAH " and he told me he saw ppl being caned alot of times. he worked for more then 30years. but he told me that within that 30years. he did not seen anyone walking out after being caned. everyone confirm SHOUT de. even the BIGGEST GANGSTER IN SG.
    I beg to differ.

    So far, for our local prison authorities, there are many regulations and standing orders in place to ensure that no internal photographs is released to the public. Such photos and articles are governed by I myself have yet to see any photograph of prisoners getting caned which is purportedly taken inside our local prisons. If ever there were such photos circulating, you can bet your bike (and I can bet mine) that our Big Uncle MHA will get to the perpetrator.

    Secondly, I really have to say that your DM couldn't be more wrong when he said that even the biggest gangster does not shout. If you have friends working in prison, they will also tell you that there are people receiving 24 strokes who did not even flinch or bat an eyelid when receiving the caning. I've seen with my own eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aie View Post
    Yup. Everywhere in the workforce if you know how to BBC (Bodek, Bedek, Cerdik), confirm will get a promotion fast...
    LOL that's a good acronym. First time I've heard it!

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    but whats ur rank?

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