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Thread: Adv & Disadv of GSR400 n Super4-spec3

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    nice. thanks.
    Considering geting one.
    VTECH vs EFI
    Hope EFI can save more fuel.

    BTW , GSR have somthing like HISS? Thie technology looks very gd in preventing bike from stolden.

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    yes the bike has key identification system like Vtec3 ,the name is not very nice though hahahaha it is known S.A.I.S
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    went to the bike and see liao S.A.I.S stands for Suzuki Advance Immobilizer System.
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    anyway, i miss wildcard.
    just one of his insensate followers...

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    woot. that is so nice of you! thanks!

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    i am planning to get a gsr400 aft i pass my 2A,nice bike
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    Hi All

    I'm going to buy a 400cc bike soon. however, i would like to gauge the price of my choices.

    Does anyone know the price of a Super 4 Spec 2 and a Suzuki GSR 400?. Second-hand pricing is also welcome.

    thanks

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    Where is Looi's located at?

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    Where is Looi's located at?

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    GSR4 r mostly 1st hand bike. spec 2 is 2nd hand bike... GSR4 OTR shd b ard $13k to $14k depending on ur insurance n hire purchase period. spec 2 now shd b ard 6k to 8k depending on number plate n conidtion...
    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    is the price for the spec 2 for a 2nd-hand?
    are you currently using a gsr4? if so, is it...recommendable?

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    spec 2 is 2nd hand so price wise will b cheaper. even a new spec 3, price wise shd b slightly cheaper than GSR.

    i'm riding a GSR now... recommandation? i can only ask u wat u like n wat u prefer. S4 n GSR is 2 different bike. do read up the difference of the 2 bikes n make a prudent decision...

    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

     

     
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    bro check out the gsr forum, i have post some prices over ther. if u on we buy together can bargain!!!
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    at kaki bukit place...
    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    Spec 2 - VTEC technology, carburator model, 160/55 rear tyres, bi-shock.

    GSR4 - Raw engine (u'll love the growl), fuel injection, 180/55 rear tyres, mono-shock (dun need to worry about disappearing shocks)

    CONS about the GSR4: the fuel tank is smaller than the spec 2, no under seat storage (enough for ur insurance papers n parking coupons though), 180/55 rear tyres means u'll be paying for class 2 tyres, n the weight of the bike is almost the same as a class 2 bike. i dropped my bike before n it took quite alot of effort to lift up the bike, even with the technique SSDC teaches class 2 trainees.

    despite the cons, i still love my GSR.. but go ahead with the spec 2 if u think the gsr is crap
    rien d'autre que le max.

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    underseat i can squeeze a bike cover in with 2 small cloth. paper document, i shrink to smaller size, then put in my wallet.

    GSR4 put box not so nice but actually not bad oso... depends on how u paste the stickers... i still can't find the right sticker to paste...


    parts of S4 can b found easily everywhere even in ur neighbourhood. n every traffic light, smelly smelly can c one S4.
    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    Originally posted by skateboy@April 29, 2007 12:19 am
    smelly smelly can c one S4.
    i like ur statement.
    rien d'autre que le max.

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    so we must make GSR rare. let ppl admire but dun encourage them to buy...

    so that once in a while then can c a GSR... if not, ambush at KKFC during outing then can c a big group of GSR...



    btw, where's that talkative DenverDino??he go melaka??
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    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    should you get the price at looi, can you post it? i think i may go to mah and ask the price this weekend. currently can only think of this 2 shops because
    1. looi is quite well-known in this forum
    2. mah is just next to my house

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    Anyway... I'm Selling my S4 Vtec 2 FW plate Blue color..

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....T&f=37&t=161421

    Upz..
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    Originally posted by wu ying tian@May 02, 2007 10:48 pm
    should you get the price at looi, can you post it? i think i may go to mah and ask the price this weekend. currently can only think of this 2 shops because
    1. looi is quite well-known in this forum
    2. mah is just next to my house
    Looi is cheaper. It is about the same price as southern, just difference in the goodie, warranty etc.

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    dun even think of southern...
    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

     

     
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    how will gsr400 look with a box? need a box to dump my barang barang lah

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    there is a couple of GSRs with boxes. looks ok. not that bad looking but of cos, panniers will b a better choice. but due to the difficulty in squeezing thru traffic, topcase is used instead...
    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    how abt handling? many ppl claims that GSR4 has a better handling and engine response in comparison to s4. but then again, g400 creates significantly more vibrations too.. hmmm...

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    monoshock gives superb handling compared to twinshock. EFI's firing is definitely more precise than carb. due to GSR's raw power, it has vibrations that S4 dun have that much. every bike sure got vibration. depends on how bad is it only.
    Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05
    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    monoshock gives superb handling compared to twinshock. EFI's firing is definitely more precise than carb. due to GSR's raw power, it has vibrations that S4 dun have that much. every bike sure got vibration. depends on how bad is it only.
    so how bad is it? haha

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    down your spine??? hahaha...
    just slightly more vibration then S4 lah...
    overall performance still better then S4...
    compare it for yourself and you'll know what i mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraggershell View Post
    so how bad is it? haha
    Quote Originally Posted by kaozie View Post
    down your spine??? hahaha...
    just slightly more vibration then S4 lah...
    overall performance still better then S4...
    compare it for yourself and you'll know what i mean...
    how bad? wun b down the spine. from hand all the way to the elbow. thats all. agree that it performs better than S4.
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    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    is there any "must do it" to be done? my fren recommended power commander but i think its no use unless u change the exhaust system

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    and no use changing exhaust when you dun remove the CAT and change the air filter...

     

     
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    any one knows what is current market price for the GSR 400??

    any shops 2 recommend prefrably east area??

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    check the GSR600 thread...

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    Juz went to loois. For every one's info, GSR400 qouted $13.5K whereaz Super 4 Spec 3 quoted at $12.5K.

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    They have increased price by $500. I asked beginning of June and was quoted $13K for GSR400. $1K less for Super 4.

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    Hi, Friend. Consider your application first, will 400cc bike powerfull enough
    for you? After you understand your requirement, then look into the nett price of the machine, you will be able narrow down your choices. Lastly, consider
    the maintence cost (eg. how much engine oil needed, is spare parts easily available, road tax...)

    I am riding Fazer 600 require 2.5 to 2.8 litres of EO. Which is lesser than S4

    Ok.. hope you make the best choice.

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    Fazer6, you really cant go wrong with a wind shield and is good for touring as well as sg riding.
    The new FZ6 looked wicked....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fraggershell View Post
    torn between the 2.

    s4 is reliable and sparts are widely avaible.
    however the looks of gsr400 just got the upper hand, yet heard from fren that it's not as powerful as the spec3 and harder to maintain


    comments please!
    i heard gsr400 torque between 1 to 6k rpm is weak compare to s4, coz no Vtec.
    But peak torque is about same at high rpm.
    Also, GSR400 if put boxes will be very ugly unlike S4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tt6389 View Post
    i heard gsr400 torque between 1 to 6k rpm is weak compare to s4, coz no Vtec.
    But peak torque is about same at high rpm.
    Also, GSR400 if put boxes will be very ugly unlike S4.
    for spec 3, vtec kick in at 6250rpm from gear 1 to 5 is n at 6750rpm for gear 6 . so between 1000 to 6000rpm, its operating on 2 valves rather than 4 valves when vtec kick in.

    GSR oso have something like 'vtec' kinda technology. dunno wat is the term. we oso dunno at which rpm will the other 2 valves kick in. so the comparision is not accurate. but overall, spec 3 n GSR, comparable, dun really have a big difference in terms of torque n top. wat we all know, GSR's power range is more on the low n mid n spec 3 is mid n high.

    i agree with u that GSR dun look good with box but without box, its otherwise!!
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    PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05
    Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07
    Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09
    Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13
    Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??
    Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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    both r 400 afterall. how much xtra power can u squeeze out?? still boils down to rider not the bike.

    stay calm and carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    for spec 3, vtec kick in at 6250rpm from gear 1 to 5 is n at 6750rpm for gear 6 . so between 1000 to 6000rpm, its operating on 2 valves rather than 4 valves when vtec kick in.

    GSR oso have something like 'vtec' kinda technology. dunno wat is the term. we oso dunno at which rpm will the other 2 valves kick in. so the comparision is not accurate. but overall, spec 3 n GSR, comparable, dun really have a big difference in terms of torque n top. wat we all know, GSR's power range is more on the low n mid n spec 3 is mid n high.

    i agree with u that GSR dun look good with box but without box, its otherwise!!
    Its not a VTEC-type device. It doesn't "kick-in" at a certain RPM nor opens more valves. The Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve simply controls the amount of air entering the intake to maintain the A/F ratio throughout the RPM range.
    Suzuki's SDTV (Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve) injection system is employed again here. While your right wrist controls each primary throttle butterfly, a servo-controlled secondary butterfly manages the speed of incoming air via instructions from the engine-control module.

     

     
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    so meaning to say, at all times, its running on 4 valves. just that the ecu controls the amount of air intake for the various speeds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    so meaning to say, at all times, its running on 4 valves. just that the ecu controls the amount of air intake for the various speeds?
    4 valves per cylinder.
    Air intake is controlled by a second butterfly valve, the SDTV.

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    ok. thanx for the explaination. sorry to others that i gave a wrong info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    for spec 3, vtec kick in at 6250rpm from gear 1 to 5 is n at 6750rpm for gear 6 . so between 1000 to 6000rpm, its operating on 2 valves rather than 4 valves when vtec kick in.

    GSR oso have something like 'vtec' kinda technology. dunno wat is the term. we oso dunno at which rpm will the other 2 valves kick in. so the comparision is not accurate. but overall, spec 3 n GSR, comparable, dun really have a big difference in terms of torque n top. wat we all know, GSR's power range is more on the low n mid n spec 3 is mid n high.

    i agree with u that GSR dun look good with box but without box, its otherwise!!
    Actually is not operating on 2 valves, its a 4 stroke bike so everytime each cylinder is operating, the valves works one in and one out for each carb, so its 2 valves. With in-line 4 its actually working at 8 values. Once V-tec kicks in, its actually 2 in 2 out. With in-line 4 its actually working at 16 values. Hopes this explains more in details

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch View Post
    Actually is not operating on 2 valves, its a 4 stroke bike so everytime each cylinder is operating, the valves works one in and one out for each carb, so its 2 valves. With in-line 4 its actually working at 8 values. Once V-tec kicks in, its actually 2 in 2 out. With in-line 4 its actually working at 16 values. Hopes this explains more in details
    yes. vtec model, DOHC, each cylinder got 4 valves, 2 inlet 2 exhaust. so b4 vtec kick in, its 2 valves operation, 1 in n 1 out. vtec kick in, its 4 valves operation, 2 in n 2 out. thats y its DOHC 16V inline 4. this one i know.

    the one i dunno is the SDTV (Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve). which i got mixed up with vtec theory, thinking its both about the same, n end up giving a wrong explaination.
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    Have being dying to get myself the GSR4! Hence my vote goes to GSR4 - no doubt about that. But now, I could only wait for an used GSR4 to come by.

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    wow.. i have always wanted a spec3. but after sawing this guy riding his sleek gsr400 on the road. its so cool.. i love the sleek design and the matter of fact that it's undertray exhuast really turns me on.

    but looks like everyone favours the gsr400 to spec3. but i would like to know, will the insurance be higher compare to spec3? what about the resale value? after gettin my 2A i planning to buy a first hand bike to last through my NS years next year.

    so someone pelase help me!!!
    i simply love the wheezing sound of my V4

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    I am riding a Super4 now, but I really like the GSR. The looks is only secondary, seeing I feel the S4 looks good as well, but what attracts me to the GSR is the modern technology. Drooools. But I am only a student now.. better stick with S4.. alot of spareparts and most shops noe how to handle a S4. Might get a GSR a few years down the road when it's spareparts is more readily available and I have more $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rycel View Post
    wow.. i have always wanted a spec3. but after sawing this guy riding his sleek gsr400 on the road. its so cool.. i love the sleek design and the matter of fact that it's undertray exhuast really turns me on.

    but looks like everyone favours the gsr400 to spec3. but i would like to know, will the insurance be higher compare to spec3? what about the resale value? after gettin my 2A i planning to buy a first hand bike to last through my NS years next year.

    so someone pelase help me!!!
    why not u go in the GSR thread and ask the old bird...

    Quote Originally Posted by snowdog View Post
    Have being dying to get myself the GSR4! Hence my vote goes to GSR4 - no doubt about that. But now, I could only wait for an used GSR4 to come by.
    a used one will be a bit long as this bike is still new...go to the GSR thread and ask the old bird

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