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    Default [Group] SBF Yamaha Spark Z & X



    To All Riders out there, Happy New Year - 2008.

    All 2007 post had been moved to SBF Cubs Community Depository
    * KIV - SBF Yamaha Spark Z & X Portal 2007


    Best wishes true out the year.

    Ride Safe.


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    31/12/07 fill in 3.24 litre at 61961 Jb caltex at RM6.20
    2/1/08 fill in 4.15 litre at 62145 spore shell
    so roughly 1 litre i am getting 56km average urban 100km/h

    with new denso iridium , air filter and redex petrol treatment and fully sythetic oil
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    Got new room already...

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    nk3371 ,

    where u get the yamaha lagenda banner
    nicely done
    u draw?

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    lets have power.how do we get more power in this machine.?/

    any info?

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    I love the banner of nk3371 too.
    The only bike till now : Yamaha JupiterV 110cc
    Y!M : lmtuan2305

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    me 3

    YAMAHAsparkZlagendajupiterv

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunshead View Post
    nk3371 ,

    where u get the yamaha lagenda banner
    nicely done
    u draw?
    Haha..thanks...
    I draw it using Photoshop...
    It was a cup prix images...then I've added the headlamp and my bike's color scheme...

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    meter 62858

    today i changed full synthetic oil - DELPHI brand 10w-50
    and then the mechanic said my exhaust from block has hole and leaking smoke
    this means
    fuel intake high and the 'pop' sound arise and morning starting problem

    then he retighten the exhaust nuts.

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    gentle reminder

    check
    1. bearings of front and rear wheels

    2. bolts and nuts of upper block engines

    3. exhaust nuts tighten

    4. change air filter

    change them if necessary

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    meter 634XX
    changed front wheel bearing
    koyo brand
    $28
    at serangoon road
    19/1/08

     

     
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    Location: Thompson prata hse
    Time: 10pm onwards
    Date: 25 / 01 / 08 (Friday)
    Event: TC session la kopi


    More rider list will be continue at SBF Yamaha X-1r 135 Portal 2008


    Anyone interested? jus come if free. last min can oso come. after work one oso come. at home slack bored oso come. pls show some support cox 1st time org

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    Bro, xiangkia first time organise outing for all the riders.

    If you guys or gals are free on tat day show some supports and drop by to had a drinks together.


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    I just came back from Ipoh today 5am
    missed the TT kopi session
    ai yaaaaa

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    Anyone here using duro front tyre tubeless?

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    hi everyone .
    jus change my air filter today.brought from autocycle
    and also change mi plug to denso iridium
    engine really feel smoother.pickup abit faster
    i hav to thanks bro gunshead for the recom!!

    nxt stop maybe revtec..............any feedback?

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    meter 65202
    16/2/08

    changed

    1. engine oil
    2. air filter
    3. brake fluid dot 4
    4. tighten valve tappet

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    coming soon to do on my bike
    now very noise upper block engine parts and clutch housing

    clutch plate
    &
    two tyres
    Last edited by gunshead; 09-03-2008 at 10:51 AM.

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    Latest modification on my Lagenda...
    Hooked up my Lagenda with this big bore kit...



    That is a 57mm bore block with 62mm sleeve...

    So now my Lagenda's engine capacity is

    Bore x Stroke = 57 x 54mm

    Do the math and you get 137.8cc

    Now my engine capacity is bigger than the 135LC's engine...

    Also there is some major modification was done to my bike lately...
    - Machined the gearbox set.
    - Tweaked the auto clutch.
    - Machined the crankcase hole to fit the big bore block.
    - Installed Mikuni TS125 carburetor.

    Now still running in the engine. Can't test is yet.

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    abang lagenda,

    kau memang terlampau POWER.....rocket

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    hi all,

    i went to JB changed black oil semi synthetic castrol 15w-40 on 5/3/08
    then i asked the foreman why i hear extra sound
    although i know but simply testing the foreman

    he is correct
    he said my boosh for clutch plate housing worn out
    that's why got 'klac klac klac ' sound

    ok.
    next time i go and repair

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    I have summarized 16 items to repair on my bike
    now my bike has 67000 km mileage

    i will be doing in this shop

    call 607-2355800 for Ah keong.
    location: no.85, jalan skudai kiri, batu 4 1/2.
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    Red face

    Yamaha Spark Z
    Meter 67149
    AG Motor, Jalan Skudai
    Mechanic: Mr. Keong
    13 March 2008
    11am till 5pm

    1. OSRAM halogen bulb front head lamp RM10 x 2 =RM20
    OSRAM is better then FUJI halogen. It has balance
    current flow for front and rear light.
    2. Flush Brake Fluid DOT 4 , cleaned brake fluid container
    3. DENSO Iridium Plug, bought in Rowell Road, Spore =SGD17
    4. MAXXIS front tyre tubeless Made in Taiwan =RM70 http://www.maxxis.com/contact_us/locations.asp
    excellent tyre 70/80-17 good cornering and treads
    Switched my existing front Michelin to rear wheel
    as rear Michelin worn out
    5. Handgrip – changed to original RXZ catalyzer / Yamaha Lagenda =RM10
    6. Engine oil (15w-50)
    7. Chain drive adjust and sprayed Putoline GP1 chain jelly
    8. Tighten all nuts / bolts
    9. Rewiring for high beam light in meter panel. Add another wire wire for looping.
    10. FCC brand – clutch plate 5 pieces RM13 x 5 =RM65
    11. DAISO brand – clutch damper set – boosh rubber =RM20
    12. Clutch housing O-Ring rubber =RM6
    13. NOBORU brand – gasket =RM6
    14. Service labour charge for clutch replacement =RM15
    I witnessned tedious process to replace boosh rubber inside housing
    15. Miscellaneous labour charge =RM5
    16. Front wheel – changed tyre nut (air nut), the original rubber broke =RM5
    17. Throttle cable insert oil inside. Put oil on the handle bar for throttle to work smoothly. Need to do this every 6 months because water always make rusty.
    Total =RM222

    wash bike = RM6

    Confirmed 13/3/08 meter 67149
    He said Suzuki has best design for engine and gearbox
    Honda is good for long term lasting
    But Yamaha always fails at clutch housing cutch damper worn out and crankshaft bearing loosen and not fit. The symptom is very loud noise while riding

    My bike is good condition but ‘sayang’ the bearing of crankshaft has loosen. He showed me by opening the cover (big nut) at left hand side gear box and showed the shaking of bearing. It has to be done during overhaul and sent to factory for fitting.
    Anyway, I plan to do some other time in future.

    I plan to use Pennzoil engine oil in future
    http://www.pennzoil.com.my/products.php?categoryid=1
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    Tested my bike last week...
    Clocked 160km/h on first 700m...Still slow..
    need to make it faster..
    gonna install racing camshaft and change the sprocket ratio...
    also gonna resetting the carb main jet and pilot jet...

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    18/3/08 - 4.32litre RM8.30 meter =67605
    19/3/08 - 67780 finished one whole tank

    so roughly with constant speed of 110km/h i got 175km

    20/3/08 67780, 3.20litre $6.67
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    hello. i'm taking out my spark z this sat. any things to specially look out for in the bike? anything to pay special attention to? is it minimal maintenance? looking forwards to replies! =)
    Live long, die prosper ~

    05 July 2006 - 14 March 2008 : Gilera DNA 180
    22 March 2008 - 1 February 2014 : Yamaha Spark Z 110
    02 August 2013 - 26 May 2016 : Suzuki DRZ SM 400
    01 June 2016 - ??? : Yamaha T135 LC
    03 June 2018 - ??? : Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere

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    i warn

    ignore yamaha
    go for suzuki smash or suzuki raider or suzuki katana

    ignore wave and spark z

    one day u will thank me

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    haha. too late lah i guess. i'm already in the process of taking it out. actually, i don't mind the performance. i'm just intending to make it a budget, transport bike. so thats why, i asked anything special i should take note of, on this bike. like frequency of servicing, eo change. anything i should be aware of. to pay special attention to.

    thanks in advance.
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    only use 20w-50 or 20w-40 or 15w-50 balck oil viscosity

    do not use anything other then that

    yamaha crankshaft bearing and clutch housing rubber damping cannot last long
    the final mileage it can last is 55,000km

    so it need thick oil to protect the bearing.

    yamaha bearing faulty in gearbox is well known
    long term use has problems

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    hey guys n gals...

    there's a meet-up this saturday 29/03/08 at KKFC (Kallang KFC) @ 2030hrs..
    Meet-up with the scooters and the S4 community members..
    Hoping that u guys and gals can make it for the meet-up..
    So tat we can get to know each other.

    Who noes 1 day we may even plan to do a charity ride..

    So pls put down ur nick at the cub outing thread if you are keen to join..

    Thanks
    No matter how small the bike you are riding,
    If you wanna ride up to somewhere which u desire to go
    den sure u can reach. Its jus ur will power oni..


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    Den something is wrong with U

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    Abnormal Engine Noise:

    Knocking:

    IC igniter trouble
    Carbon built up in combustion chamber
    Fuel poor quality or incorrect
    Spark plug incorrect
    Overheating


    Piston slap:

    Cylinder/piston clearance excessive
    Cylinder, piston worn
    Connecting rod bent
    Piston pin, piston holes worn


    Valve noise:

    Engine not sufficiently warmed up after lash adjuster installation
    Hydraulic lash adjuster damaged (worn, seizure, or spring broken)
    Air in hydraulic lash adjuster
    Metal chips or dust dammed in hydraulic lash adjuster
    Engine operated in red zone
    Valve spring broken or weak
    Camshaft bearing worn


    Other noise:

    Connecting rod small end clearance excessive
    Connecting rod big end clearance excessive
    Piston ring worn, broken or stuck
    Piston seizure, damage
    Cylinder head gasket leaking
    Exhaust pipe leaking at cylinder head connection
    Crankshaft run out excessive
    Engine mounts loose
    Crankshaft bearing worn
    Primary gear worn or chipped
    Camshaft chain tensioner trouble
    Upper or lower tension spring trouble
    Camshaft chain, sprocket, guide worn
    Air suction valve damaged
    Balancer gear worn or chipped
    Balancer shaft position maladjusted
    Balancer bearing worn
    Balancer coupling rubber damper damaged
    Oil pump chain, sprocket worn

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Poor Running at Low Speed:

    Spark weak:
    Battery voltage low
    Spark plug dirty, broken, or maladjusted
    Spark plug cap or high tension wiring trouble
    Spark plug cap shorted or not in good contact
    Spark plug incorrect
    igniter trouble
    Pickup coil trouble
    Ignition coil trouble


    Fuel/air mixture incorrect:

    Pilot screw maladjusted
    Pilot jet, or air passage clogged
    Air bleed pipe, bleed holes clogged
    Pilot passage clogged
    Air cleaner clogged, poorly sealed or missing
    Starter plunger stuck open
    Fuel level in carburetor float chamber too high or too low
    Fuel tank air vent obstructed
    Carburetor holder loose
    Surge tank duct loose


    Compression low:

    Spark plug loose
    Cylinder head not sufficiently tightened down
    Cylinder, piston worn
    Piston ring bad (worn, weak, broken, or sticking)
    Piston ring/land clearance excessive
    Cylinder head gasket damaged
    Cylinder head warped
    Engine not sufficiently warmed up after lash adjuster installation
    Valve spring broken or weak
    Valve not seating properly (valve bent, worn, or carbon accumulation on the seating surface)
    Hydraulic lash adjuster damaged (worn, seizure, or spring broken)
    Hydraulic lash adjuster oil passage clogged


    Backfiring when decelerating:

    Vacuum switch valve broken
    Air suction valve trouble
    Coasting enricher trouble

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    Guys,

    I just did overhaul on my bike.

    Date: 28 April 2008
    Shop: Seng Fong Motor Boring Trading, Jalan Larkin, Johor Bahru

    Location; No. 12-A jalan Larkin, 80200 JB
    tel: 07 2243670, 017-7726720
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    Meter: 70463
    Date: 28 April 2008
    Shop: Seng Fong Motor Boring Trading, Jalan Larkin, Johor Bahru
    Total: RM360
    Time: 10:10am – 3pm

    Overhaul engine due to Yamaha defect on crankshaft bearing – design error, not enough ‘tembaga’ thickness on crankshaft.

    Suggestion:
    Use 20w-40 engine oil
    The best is Shell advance S4T
    Synthetic oils are good for piston and piston rings
    For gearbox protection ad bearings, suggested on thicker oil
    Furthermore, motorcycle and car engine oil has different purpose
    Car engine and gearbox oil are different

    Solution:
    Lay crankshaft rod and welding to add more ‘tembaga’
    Changed 2 bearing of crankshaft (left and right hand side)
    Gasket one whole set
    Timing chain rod – guide stopper 2 pieces. Comes in a Pasir
    Exhaust pipe inner gasket silencer
    Front fork oil change
    Labour charges

    Extra:

    Did ‘double side tape’ layout for anti vibration on fairings and cowlings.
    Exhaust pipe paint high temperature black paint
    Changed air filter
    Chain drive sprayed Putoline GP1 chain jelly
    Adjusted kick starter position for shorter and smoother kicking
    Oil lubricant into throttle cable and inside throttle for smoothness

    Changed engine oil - for 200km running to clean and wash out all the residue.
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    Last edited by gunshead; 05-05-2008 at 01:12 PM.

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    continue with more pictures
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    I received email from Shell Malaysia
    answering my question on shell advance s4t oil

    below i copy , paste

    Hi Mr.Gxxxxxx,

    Good Morning...

    Thank you for taking the time to write in to us.With regards to
    your earlier enquiry regarding our Shell Lubricant,especially on the
    qualities of the Shell Advance S4T,it is an oil is designed to
    withstand and remove the heat generated in the motorcycle engine.

    The temperature is not an indication of the heat generated. As a
    guide, the maximum temperature the oil can withstand is indicated by
    the flash point, which is about 200 deg C.

    To prevent imitation, please purchase from our approved Shell outlets
    only. If the you have come across suspected imitation products,
    please report to us the location & address if possible of the outlet
    for further investigation.
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    Guys,

    use malaysian or spore SHELL petrol unleaded
    super suitable for yamaha lagenda / spark z

    3 years ago , i tested all petrol, caltex was suitable but now year 2008 May, Shell green unleaded petrol is the best

    it is really fuel economy

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    new at this.... need some help guyz.. am riding spark z but can i change to spark x cover set???....

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    the head cover and tail cover cannot be changed to spark x
    sorry

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    Lastest update on my Lagenda 110...





    58.75mm piston...(above it is a 53mm piston)


    BMPower exhaust manifold...


    Racing Bee spark plug...



    Engine Specs:

    - 58.75mm piston with racing block sleeve 62mm.
    - Ported & polished header.
    - Ride It Thailand racing camshaft.
    - Mikuni 26mm carburetor.(originally for TS125)
    - FCCi clutch plate.
    - UMA Racing clutch springs.
    - Faito Racing auto clutch damper assy.
    - Custom made exhaust system.(modif ekzoz asal)
    - CDi unit dari Yamaha Ego(Mio).(original Lagenda got rev limiter)
    - Skimmed gearbox.

    Luaran:

    - Standard Yamaha Lagenda 110 bodypart & color scheme.
    - Com* 1.4x17 silver alloy rims.
    - SYScast hi-polish hubs.
    - lowered front fork by an inch.
    - 15/28 MCS sprocekt set and Osaki 415X chain.

    Wanna hear my engine sounds...?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Bq1NG51Xw

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    Engine Specs:

    - 58.75mm piston with racing block sleeve 62mm.
    - Ported & polished header.
    - Ride It Thailand racing camshaft.
    - Mikuni 26mm carburetor.(originally for TS125)
    - FCCi clutch plate.
    - UMA Racing clutch springs.
    - Faito Racing auto clutch damper assy.
    - Custom made exhaust system.(modif ekzoz asal)
    - CDi unit dari Yamaha Ego(Mio).(original Lagenda got rev limiter)
    - Skimmed gearbox.


    lagenda CDI got limiter? no wonder i can't go over 100km/h

    which ver of Ego cdi u using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seizai View Post

    lagenda CDI got limiter? no wonder i can't go over 100km/h

    which ver of Ego cdi u using?
    Earlier 110 model got no limiter...(2003/2004)
    Lagenda 100 also got no limiter...

    I use 2005 Yamaha Ego CDi...<--according to my friend...got that cdi from him..

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    mine was lagendaZ

    can gv me the part model no?

     

     
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    MAKE : YAMAHA
    MODEL : SPARK X 110cc
    COE : OCT 2015
    Mileage : less than 20k (very low for a 2 year plus bike)
    Accessories : GIVI BOX E33 point ( with light)
    Front : disc brake
    Rear : drum brake
    Max speed : 120km/hr ( tried once only)

    Bike in very very new condition! Ride by my dad. in total stock condition! DAD ride it to and from work only. my dad take great care of the bike!

    PRICE : $1700 (FIXED) PM me if interested.

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    hi all,

    17/6/08
    Johor Bahru

    meter bike mileage 74142

    changed o-ring on upper and lower block big nut
    changed inside inner o-ring

    two pieces cost RM3

    later he washed with petrol the block and asked to monitor if any oil leaking.

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    Don't go JB

    yesterday , I queued from BKE till woodlands customs
    9:40pm till 11:40pm

    after 2 hours then exit customs checkpoint

    I poured petrol at shell RM2.70 per litre

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxbiaggi View Post
    hi everyone .
    jus change my air filter today.brought from autocycle
    and also change mi plug to denso iridium
    engine really feel smoother.pickup abit faster
    i hav to thanks bro gunshead for the recom!!

    nxt stop maybe revtec..............any feedback?
    Hi....wanna ask, if the engine still running in, can we use denso plug?

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    brand new engine , can use denso iridium spark plug
    plug will not spoilt any engine whether new stock or overhauled or old engine

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    29/5/08 meter 73127 changed shell advanced 4T RM13
    24/6/08 meter 74700 changed shell advanced 4T RM13

    so approximately I change engine oil for yamaha spark z at
    1500km

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    smack76,

    what is revtec?

    why don't we meet up for kopi?

    are u using yamaha spark Z 110cc ?

    This saturday we can meet at 12 midnight and then go to JB for supper +dinner

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    The Bike shop that I do in JB town

    see the card and map

    the map i drew for a sporean friend who wanted to do his yamaha RXZ
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    Meter: 75038
    Date: 28 June 2008
    Shop: Seng Fong Motor Boring Trading, Jalan Larkin, Johor Bahru
    Total: RM130

    Yamaha Spark Z 110cc Registered December 2004

    Saturday Morning went to spare part dealer

    Pusat Perkhidmatan Motor Wahin
    94, Jalan Perwira Satu,
    Taman Ungku, Taman Aminah,
    81300 Skudai, Johor.
    Tel: 07-557 3918

    Bought

    1. Heavy Duty Chain Lube ; Brand => RevOil = RM 7

    2. One complete drive chain set

    Model: Yamaha Lagenda 110
    Front sprocket: 15T steel (special Heat Treatment for Racing )
    Rear Sprocket: 36T steel
    Drive Chain : RK 428SB X 104L Hard NonSeal Chain

    These items comes in a box set = RM48

    For original RK-M products with chain kit set , you may contact the manufacturer at www.kilangrantai.com

    Then went to my regular mechanic shop , Seng Fong Motor Trading.

    Paid service charge fixing chain + sprocket = RM10

    Changed

    1. Rear tyre – MAXXIS 80/90-17 Tubeless = RM 80
    www.maxxis.com.my

    2. Yasaki rear brake shoe = RM 15

    Free of charge

    Full Flush DOT4 brake fluid. Fill in Mintye Dot 4 fluid


    Bought hand glove = RM25 => superb soft ,nice built quality and elegant design.

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