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    Quote Originally Posted by smiley73 View Post
    i heard a few cases of bitubo shock leaking. anyway the warranty got terms and condition.
    huh??? so not so good afterall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric78 View Post
    huh??? so not so good afterall?
    moving parts sure got wear and tear 1 mah... showa oso got leak... cannt say good or not got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smiley73 View Post
    moving parts sure got wear and tear 1 mah... showa oso got leak... cannt say good or not got.
    oki...gotto check out the price first le...thanx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric78 View Post
    usual servicing of rear shock?? meaning??
    routine servicing.. recommended service period is about 1-1.5yrs of usage for normal riding.. change of oil, seals and o-rings.. and also checking of internals for wear and tear. plus a good clean up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smiley73 View Post
    i heard a few cases of bitubo shock leaking. anyway the warranty got terms and condition.
    maybe lifespan is up.. if seal blows within 1 year, usually it's covered under warranty.. so no worries about that.
    Quote Originally Posted by eric78 View Post
    huh??? so not so good afterall?
    everything is no good if you dun take care of it..
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    showa is good........... but bitubo is even better............

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    Quote Originally Posted by euz View Post
    showa is good........... but bitubo is even better............
    Quote Originally Posted by Naked1 View Post
    Stock is good...Choose your weapon wisely and enjoy it...you can have all the $$$$ to mod and in the end you can't make full use of it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aRcHeR View Post
    showa is good, no doubt. the brand is good, but the shock that comes stock with s4 is the lowest of the range.

    how to be best?

    shock servicing at reputable bikeshop will cost you minimum 290. and it might not guarantee that it will be better than before or it will not leak again.
    Ever used SHOWA on my small bike yamah RXZ, fuhhhhhhhhh the oscillation still good man...


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    like i said, no doubt showa is good.

    but you forgot to factor in the weight factor of a rxz and s4..
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    anyway... both still the best. Cheers


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    does YSS G-series stand up to showa? anyone here using YSS G-series?

     

     
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    I strongly recommend BITUBO................

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    Hi EUZ,

    why do you strongly recommend bitubo?

    Any reasons?

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    does anyone know the market price for Bitubo suspension now? with and without canister one. thanks

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    prepare 800. and definitely you will have change back for petrol.. many tanks of petrol..
    Quote Originally Posted by Naked1 View Post
    Stock is good...Choose your weapon wisely and enjoy it...you can have all the $$$$ to mod and in the end you can't make full use of it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by civicblade View Post
    Hi EUZ,

    why do you strongly recommend bitubo?

    Any reasons?
    good for corner as it won't compress as much as showa & not tat bouncy..... the suspension is much more harder than showa
    if u are tat kind likes to play corner.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by euz View Post
    good for corner as it won't compress as much as showa & not tat bouncy..... the suspension is much more harder than showa
    if u are tat kind likes to play corner.......
    U mean only bitubo offers stiffer suspension? I kenot buy Showa GP standard shocks n replace em to achieve better results? Weird rite?

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    Twat: wad they say is true.. go to thomson fly over n corner at 110 and u will see wad they mean. i can feel alot of sagging even though im using 3 month old showa shocks. tested my frens bitubo(without canister) while cornering, its really stable. especially at high speed corners can feel the stiffness n stablility(rebound rate)
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    if u change to high end showa sure can achieve that result..... same as any other brand.
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    ooo but it juz normal travelling which is good enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by e|ement View Post
    ooo but it juz normal travelling which is good enough?
    like what is posted, showa is ok if you are just riding alone, using it for travelling from point A to B.

    but if you pillion frequently, like to play corners, or if you are a heavy rider, you are recommended to change your suspension.
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    archer: which is better in terms of cornering n stability? the bitubo with canister or without canister?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsfury View Post
    archer: which is better in terms of cornering n stability? the bitubo with canister or without canister?
    of course is the 1 with canister. reason being it offers more variables for you to adjust other than the standard preload and rebound. the 1 with canister allows you to adjust high/low speed compression damping as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsfury View Post
    archer: which is better in terms of cornering n stability? the bitubo with canister or without canister?
    Quote Originally Posted by aRcHeR View Post
    of course is the 1 with canister. reason being it offers more variables for you to adjust other than the standard preload and rebound. the 1 with canister allows you to adjust high/low speed compression damping as well.
    I know archer will tell u this... next the price will tell u which more better


    with canister 1K+ w/o cost 700+ .. pay more for extra function
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    Quote Originally Posted by smiley73 View Post
    I know archer will tell u this... next the price will tell u which more better


    with canister 1K+ w/o cost 700+ .. pay more for extra function
    well, he asked which is better mah, of course have to give my honest and humble opinion.

    which is the truth la, with canister is better la. but the 1 w/o canister is good enough too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aRcHeR View Post
    well, he asked which is better mah, of course have to give my honest and humble opinion.

    which is the truth la, with canister is good enough. but the 1 w/o canister is good enough too!
    agree.......

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    i heard spec 3 showa rear shock cant b svc..is it true??
    There is more to life than increasing it's speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbikes View Post
    i heard spec 3 showa rear shock cant b svc..is it true??
    all shocks can be serviced. it's just whether is it worthwhile to service anot.
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    can bitubo be serviced too? at where if can?

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    mezzo is the best place. since they bring in the product they ought to know how to service n maintain their products inside out, mezzo moved to the 3rd shop beside motoworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gene98 View Post
    mezzo is the best place. since they bring in the product they ought to know how to service n maintain their products inside out, mezzo moved to the 3rd shop beside motoworld.
    yeah ... agree agree
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    can bitubo be serviced too? at where if can?
    Jsut came back fro Teck Thye..he told me that spares is not only hard to get but "don't have" even from Italy itself. Was told that the seal is "taper" type and very rare. He does the servicing for it and can make do to repair if bad. However..don't sound cheap to me

    He told me that anyone want to even harden further their SHOWA spring rebound can be done also (for heavy weight laod rider and pillion)..need to replace a damper valve or somthing like that.
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    Mezzo have spares available on hand for all bitubo components.
    Thanks!...sound good
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    bro...
    i just changed to bitubo few mths back...
    and its worth it... in my opinion...
    just head down to mezzo and get it..
    but heard new stocks gonna cost 800+...
    should be of better range i guess..

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    Thanks...btw..where is this Mezzo?..sound like an Italian Pizza oultet?
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    its at eunos industrial . when u go in there turn right and its the first shop on ur left tt u can see

    the signboard says Singapore KIKI auto ryte?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arsonist View Post
    its at eunos industrial . when u go in there turn right and its the first shop on ur left tt u can see

    the signboard says Singapore KIKI auto ryte?
    mezzo is now located next to motoworld @ kaki bukit. mezzo's workshop, projekt revolution is also located at the same premises.
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    Thank you gentlemen..thanks you Will definitely check it out.
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    if 5 of us go together to get the bitubo shocks...do you think we'll get better price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pek View Post
    Jsut came back fro Teck Thye..he told me that spares is not only hard to get but "don't have" even from Italy itself. Was told that the seal is "taper" type and very rare. He does the servicing for it and can make do to repair if bad. However..don't sound cheap to me

    He told me that anyone want to even harden further their SHOWA spring rebound can be done also (for heavy weight laod rider and pillion)..need to replace a damper valve or somthing like that.
    u got teck thye address or telephone no?
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    i heard spec 3 showa rear shock cant b svc..is it true??
    Huh!?...why not. All shock works and function the same so is more or less share same construction..except may be for parts that differ. My PB1 shock absorber is using a Vtec spring.

    u got teck thye address or telephone no?
    Heh smiley73..not sure how you missed it..I posted it in one of the thread, anyway..here it's again.

    12 bradell Road
    Tel: 62826564 (David)

    I was told too that I can have my refurnished current Showa to be made harder if I want to.
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    yo ah pek,

    if service showa suspension + make it harder at teck thye do u know how much would that cost?

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    if service showa suspension + make it harder at teck thye do u know how much would that cost?
    When I was there the other day, one person was there doing it for his PB1. This was his second time there (his first S4 Version S was stolen in Malaysia recently)..speaking on the side line, he told me $230.00. The first time, he paid $300 same like me 5 years ago. So I guess you can act poor..look poor..talk humble and leh_long_leh_long, you should be able to get below $300 lah.

    For the $300...I had my spring replace, added block spacer for spring rate rebound, damper seal changed, oil changed and and gas recharged. if no leak or no need to change anything..just service, definitely should be much cheaper. Better ask first what he's gonna do b4 doing for the $s he quote.

    Tell him that the other day one guy came here to get your name card (riding a PB 1) recommended one..he should feel siok lah.
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    Is there a price reference list for works on Butibo absorber...like servicing cost and what's done and part list replacement cost. Not to keen in buying something that is not commonly available both in service and parts..afraid of being monopolised. Even TT is not going to charge any cheaper if there are not much of other people doing it.
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    but standard servicing for all brands of rear suspension is 290 + parts, includes change of oil seal, cleaning of internals and externals, and a fresh dose of suspension oil which is determined by your weight and preference.
    Oh iszit?...never knew $290 was a standard..someone just got it done elsewhere for much lesser plus gas top up for the canister. Don't get me wrong..you have your pricing so are your competitors.

    bitubo is not uncommon in singapore. many superbikes are using bitubo products and so are many s4 riders
    Superbike I dunno know...honestly, S4 I see a lot of Showa...yet to come across one Bitubo and I run around a lot.

    mezzo is the distributor for bitubo in singapore and authorised service center for south east asia. with regards to your concern about parts not commonly available, whatever suspension that comes in mezzo, be it bitubo, ohlins, WP, showa, etc, are all fitted with OE seals. i have no idea where you heard that from either.
    Let just say I asked and was told...so its jsut natural for me to asked about here..agreed?

    maybe you are new on the road i presume
    How does riding and driving for 30+ years sound like to you and that does not mean I know about your product (I presume)..bitubo. Its good that you believe in the product that you are promoting but it does not mean that I won't want to know about your competitor...you are making sales, I'm spending good money for product I want to own. When I asked about YSS and KYB absorber...the sales all sing the same tune about support and service..something anybody won't know till one is comitted into buying it. Don't get me wrong again..I'm learning and doing my facts finding.

    most valuable upgrade available for s4 riders are the bitubo rear suspension
    Just like those in this business they all say the same thing about the product they represent...that's why I here asking after hearing the same thing.

    if you are scared of being monopolised, stick with your stock parts, as simple as that
    Oh com'on..don't tell me you are not scare of being monopolised...u gota be kidding. No one likes to be monopolised.

    stick with your stock parts, as simple as that
    Showa is good and I'm doing fine with it..can't be that bad iszit?..think Honda would have not contract their product on every S4..believe Revo comes with it stock and so are Honda biggies bike right (should think so lah).

    Anyway..I'm learning and look see what's right for me. The best of brand and make and their performance is one thing, but after sales service and part support matters more to me and I'll decide what's good for me.

    Thanks for your input
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    wa wa wa.. only absorbers leh

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    wa wa wa.. only absorbers leh
    Ya lor..wat_lu_du
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    sorry ya......i ask a noob question.....

    which is the organization that certified the suspension tuners......would be interesting to know what is the certification process

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyoshiki View Post
    sorry ya......i ask a noob question.....

    which is the organization that certified the suspension tuners......would be interesting to know what is the certification process
    all certified suspension tuners are of course certified by the suspension factory la!
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    The bitubo shocks are really good. Just got mine. It costs $800 w/o canister and $1400 with canister.

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