[Discussion] Technical - Clutch

[Iceachilles]

try this if u suspect ur clutch plates are worn.....

while moving pull the clutch all the way in and release slowly if u hear a thud thud sound before hitting half clutch means ur clutch plates are worn

>> No idea how the thud-thud sound can mean that the clutch plates are worn.

while stationery pull the clutch and engage 1st gear, if the bike moves forward a bit while the clutch is pulled at the max means ur clutch plate is gone....

>> This most prob means his clutch cable free play is too little.


Another way, if you wanna try,
1. Place front wheel against wall.
2. Engage 2nd gear.
3. Throttle up while slowly releasing clutch.
you engine should die off. If your rpm can go up and back wheel never move, your clutch plates are gone.

The loud "tak-tak" sound when down shifting could be because of numerous reasons.
- Engine oil old or not enough
- Clutch lever not enough free play
- Chain too loose..

All clutch plates does is to transmit power from engine, to the gear box. Clutch plates for a super 4 last from 80k - 100k or even more depending on rider. Most ppl just change the clutch plates. The springs are pretty hardy. CLutch cable is only changed if it is worn, i.e. the wires coming apart.

Best remedy, go to your fav workshop and get a reliable mech to check your bike. Making decisions based on answers here is at your own risk.

I tried the second option. MY bike didn't die off non the rpm went up instead went down but if I rev higher the bike engine died off. Normal? How many years should we change the clutch plates base on normal usage? Not high usage like a dispatch rider but normal riding ($20 fuel) per week.

[vtec power]

pai sae to brin up tis old thread. I would lk 2 noe more abt cluth since there are no other thread liao.

When i brought my spec 1 , i had knew the cluth wasn't at the tip top condition but was unsure wat the actual problem was. When bike is in neutal, cluth out, there is a "thru thru" sound. But when i cluth in fully the sound is gone.

I was bothered by the sound but it does nt affect ani of my performance. Until half a yr the cluth plate was worn out. There is sound "tak tak" sumtimes when in 1st or 2nd gear.

I went to change my cluth plate, gasket & cluth cable. The "tak tak" sound was gone but still gt the "thru thru" sound.

I guess it is the cluth housing. I realise my cluth housing is slightly loose. Do ani1 experience the same tink?

Issit true that most super 4 will hav housing problem. I heard even changing the housing the problem will come back after some time. Hw true? Aniwae the cluth housing is pretty costly $220.

need help

[Mr.Big]

My bike's mileage reached 90K+, so wondering whether should change clutch plates or not....... read a few threads on this topic but didn't find any conclusion. So use this poll to see what you all did so I will follow the majority lah.........

[PaLmEr]

i changed mine @ 110,000KM

[anric79]

what is clutch plate , what is it used for, if dont change what will happen to our bike, and how much for spec3 clutch plate? got any picture to see ?

[ztaik]

how bout the cables?? do u guys change when only tgt with the clutch plates or when only is snaps haha?

[9up]

how bout the cables?? do u guys change when only tgt with the clutch plates or when only is snaps haha?

Changed every 28k-30k, play safe. No point risking halfway riding and cable snap.....

Btw, anyone can share their timing belt change at what millage? Thanks.

[PaLmEr]

Changed every 28k-30k, play safe. No point risking halfway riding and cable snap.....

Btw, anyone can share their timing belt change at what millage? Thanks.

S4 does not have a timing belt. Cars have timing belts. S4 uses timing Chain

[fye_kr]

hey can someone msg me the price of changing the clutch.. full set w springs price..

[skateboy]

normally is just change clutch plates n the paper gasket. springs? unless they r not doing their job else no need to change. total damage is about $110 to $150 for the plates, gasket n worksmanship.

[e|ement]

timing chain should be at ard 100k km ba

[edition]

chain can last so long meh ? 100k km is ver long leh .. my way of riding can last me 13 yrs wor ..

[Mr.Big]

The previous owner of my bike changed clutch casing and springs costs 300+ without changing the clutch plates.

[PaLmEr]

hey can someone msg me the price of changing the clutch.. full set w springs price..

$95 inclusive of gasket at BikeWorkz, plates + gasket. Springs no need to change unless spoilt.

[dingjc]

wah tt tym my fren do at bikeworkz change clutch plate and gasket, ah beng quote 110. haha.

[kmax]

i changed mine @ 110,000KM

wah.. palmer, ur spec3 110,000km already ??

[PaLmEr]

wah.. palmer, ur spec3 110,000km already ??

131,000KM and counting.

[kmax]

131,000KM and counting.

[rhys]

so the signs that you need to change are???

[Mr.Big]

seems most ppl changed between 70k to 12k. Is there any different aft market brand for clutch plates? Or only honda original one?

[phill]

wao so many ppel change clutch even b4 it shows sign of it wearing out?

[PaLmEr]

139,000km and counting. and no, im not an ironbutt.

[MrQuan]

where do u guys recommend to change clutch plates ?

[rxgn]

some questions on clutch..

when i change gear from first to second n second to third gear sometimes quite hard to kick must kick veri hard especially from 1st gear to 2nd gear and when it kick to 2nd gear sometimes went to netural gear and rpm went up

then tried to kick down or up, will have a loud tak tak tak sound..

wondering what went wrong?

[valve09]

i did the following after reaching 50000km -
1) valve clearance
2) adjust timing chain
3) tap pad
$400++ damage done.. so far so good...

[Mussolini]

what is tap pad??

[firefox87]

sorry to bring up an old thread. my bike makes a whirring sound when in gear 6th at around 5k rpm. does that means the gearbox got something wrong or the clutch housing got some problem? also, i face problems of having thud thud sound when changing gear and have frequent gear slippage. so, now i'm confused whether my gearbox got something wrong or my clutch plates need to be changed or both? anyway, my bike is a bajaj pulsar not a super. sorry to hijack. but i don't know where else to go. hehe.. is there any good clutch plates to recommend or is there just 1 type for 1 particular model?

i need someone experienced to help as i don't really trust the mechs. most like to say just change this and that.

[loyjwe]

whats the difference between clutch plate wear off and clutch housing loose?

what are the different symptoms for each of the problem?

how to perform checks for each of the problem to see if our clutch plate is worn off or clutch housing is loose etc?

thanks

[arsonist]

sometimes when i change gear up to gear 2, suddenly it will kick back in to neutral (making it seem that i am revving unnecessarily), what does this mean? time to change the clutch plates is it? is that what ppl call clutch slip?

[Iceachilles]

How long ago did you since changed EO? If you changed EO and still encounter those gears dropping back to neutral then maybe you should consider checking with bikeshop. Most probably is your clutch plates worn out. How long did you had your bike? First gear moving off any problem? Wait for more advises from the bros here too.

You can try the option given by Ah pek in your other thread too.

[arsonist]

my EO still quite recent and mileage not much...this only happens from gear 1 to gear 2 then especially when i try to revv high it will slip down to neutral... this hapens sometimes only and is not that serious... just wanna know whether its because the clutch plates are a bit worn?

[AEROR1DER]

Got an enquiry here. I found it very hard to kick to neutral gear in stationary position but when coming to a stop while in moving position, it is easy. Is tat normal or something to do with the clutch plate?

[army_ncc]

Got an enquiry here. I found it very hard to kick to neutral gear in stationary position but when coming to a stop while in moving position, it is easy. Is tat normal or something to do with the clutch plate?

most likely is your clutch cable.

[kel_wt86]

i need to change my clutch plate soon... any recommedation? how much it cost ? i no change b4...hee ... thanks

[nullifi3d]

i need to change my clutch plate soon... any recommedation? how much it cost ? i no change b4...hee ... thanks

I just changed my clutch due to clutch slip on saturday, got it done for $120 at unique motorsports @ defu lane. Very fast, within an hour.

If you feel you're encountering clutch slip or your clutch is around 50% worn, don't waste time and hurry to your mech. Before you do some damage.

[Epigun]

another way to know if u need to change ur clutch plate is wen u start ur bike and ur engine got thing irritating "sound". But wen u clutch in, it goes away.. when dis happen, den its a sign of "clutch changing time!"

[tiku]

another way to know if u need to change ur clutch plate is wen u start ur bike and ur engine got thing irritating "sound". But wen u clutch in, it goes away.. when dis happen, den its a sign of "clutch changing time!"

wat do u mean by this irritating sound?mine have like knocking sound, but clutch in no more liao.. but after 5 min ride , it goes off.. but it will come again everything if engine is cold.. so do u mean like mine?

[nullifi3d]

wat do u mean by this irritating sound?mine have like knocking sound, but clutch in no more liao.. but after 5 min ride , it goes off.. but it will come again everything if engine is cold.. so do u mean like mine?

Mine's got this tik-tik-tik-tik fast sound when i start my bike. Don't know if its the fan kicking in or what. It goes away after 2 mins warmp up.

[army_ncc]

wat do u mean by this irritating sound?mine have like knocking sound, but clutch in no more liao.. but after 5 min ride , it goes off.. but it will come again everything if engine is cold.. so do u mean like mine?

oh. same as mine. mine at times got knocking sound also. check with a few mechs, they say is common for bike reaching 10 years old. its actually clutch housing problem. usually after warm up or ride for some time will gone. anyway, try use agip EO. i using that right now and it didn't have that knocking sound already.

Mine's got this tik-tik-tik-tik fast sound when i start my bike. Don't know if its the fan kicking in or what. It goes away after 2 mins warmp up.

don't worry bro. is because when our bike is parked for quite some time, the eo will sink to the bottom of the engine. when start, the engine need to pump up the eo thus having this sound. after warm up will be okie.



above information is i heard from my mech. don't bomb me if i'm wrong.

[tiku]

oh. same as mine. mine at times got knocking sound also. check with a few mechs, they say is common for bike reaching 10 years old. its actually clutch housing problem. usually after warm up or ride for some time will gone. anyway, try use agip EO. i using that right now and it didn't have that knocking sound already.


don't worry bro. is because when our bike is parked for quite some time, the eo will sink to the bottom of the engine. when start, the engine need to pump up the eo thus having this sound. after warm up will be okie.



above information is i heard from my mech. don't bomb me if i'm wrong.

thanks for the reply army_ncc =)... cos initially i was thinking if it clutch plate prob... if clutch plate changing still ok as for price... but did u ask for the price of chaning the housing?

agip eo? which spec of agip eo... cos i using ah pek eo wif x1r... so u mean now ur bike no knocking sound liao ah?! how long have u been using?

i must say sorry for asking so much ques..=p

[army_ncc]

thanks for the reply army_ncc =)... cos initially i was thinking if it clutch plate prob... if clutch plate changing still ok as for price... but did u ask for the price of chaning the housing?

agip eo? which spec of agip eo... cos i using ah pek eo wif x1r... so u mean now ur bike no knocking sound liao ah?! how long have u been using?

i must say sorry for asking so much ques..=p

hey bro, sorry for the late reply. i didn't check the price.

i'm using SAE10W-40 agip eo. ya, no more knocking sound when warming up, but still got the rough sound. erm, i using it for about 6 months already. (i change eo every 3 months.)

[pohheng]

Hi, do anyone know when do we know our clutch plate need to be replace?

[LXY]

anione experience clutch in at neutral, there is "stone" jumping inside the clutch housing? thanks

[Infernalwar]

Bros, anyone knows roughly price range for changing clutch plates (vtec III)? Any specific brands or all the same? Thanks!

[fluzzy]

Bros, anyone knows roughly price range for changing clutch plates (vtec III)? Any specific brands or all the same? Thanks!

think unique quote $260.

[Infernalwar]

think unique quote $260.

Nope, they did'nt quote me that high. It's alot more cheaper.

[LXY]

anione experience clutch in at neutral, there is "stone" jumping inside the clutch housing? after awhile, the sound no more liao.
gear 1 to gear 2, need to kick very hard until can hear a loud 'tak' sound, pls clear my doubt.
thanks alot

[ngxrasdf]

Bros, anyone knows roughly price range for changing clutch plates (vtec III)? Any specific brands or all the same? Thanks!

its $120 at unique less than a hour

by the way, how much to change clutch cable, guys?

[F|rdAuZ]

Clutch cable buy at Lab and fix ownself better. Save lotsa $$$$. less than $20 not wrong.. Some shops i noe charge damn ex!

[AHal]

clutch cable bikeworkz less than $15...