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    castrol mineral...less than ringgit$10...in singapore u also pay S$10...thats the kind of prices u can expect.

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    next time in the city area must check out the prices...

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    u mean i can get it from planet? chessa? maybe i wanna try out that too.
    Ah Koon got sell this oil too but i personally find that its rough on the engines. Its spelled as chex right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finrod View Post
    Ah Koon got sell this oil too but i personally find that its rough on the engines. Its spelled as chex right?
    yea... but I wonder if there are other thickness other than 10w50...

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    Quote Originally Posted by protecter1 View Post
    I changed my EO last time.
    If buy EO from Malaysia, it is a lot cheap.
    overhaul in Malaysis also cheaper lor..kekeke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finrod View Post
    Ah Koon got sell this oil too but i personally find that its rough on the engines. Its spelled as chex right?
    more rough then red T??

    maybe i will try around first.. i have 2 other brands to try only..

    semi eo mobil
    and chex fully EO..

    after which most prob i will just stick to one.. ;-)
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    Actually i used SPC 4T Ace which cost $21. fully synthetic oil. Its much stronger than RED, CHEX and also Mobil. When i rode ur phantom, i use the said SPC oil and normal plugs....good and powerful enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finrod View Post
    Actually i used SPC 4T Ace which cost $21. fully synthetic oil. Its much stronger than RED, CHEX and also Mobil. When i rode ur phantom, i use the said SPC oil and normal plugs....good and powerful enough.
    no wond3r i gt your bike the speed everything so good.. cause once change to red t, i find the engine abit not strong... anyway.. thanks for the information. where can i get it???


    mine smsing me the full brand name of the oil???

    fully eo can last longer than semi eo true?

    as in the milliege clock
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    Some spc petrol kiosk got workshop which can do bikes. The name of the oil i used is the said above, bottle is gold in colour. Dun buy the cheaper silver bottle k bro. Btw u might wanna check out Maxima if u want power. Honestly Maxima is way better than these 4 oils. Just use normal plugs k, dun waste money on those iridium plugs....phantom engine might not be able to fully utilise it. The money saved from buying an iridium plugs can get u a brand new air filter, cost $10 from Ah Boy....diy. If u want, u go buy the filter and i can help u show how to diy....

    Actually fully syn can last way longer than semi syn. I know of some ppl stretching to 10 000km. Personally for me, the longest i'll use the fully is 5k. Dats cost TA200 does uses up engine oil.
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    oh... so you suggest i use maxima or 4t ace?? i wanna try around first.. last time you using normal plugs only??

    oh yea.. regarding air filter, when do i change it??

    basic maintaince is just EO , plugs , tires , air filter rite?
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    More money use maxima, for just normal means usage, 4T Ace is enuff. I did use iridium plugs b4 but generally felt that its a waste of money. Normal plugs will do the job. Buy 1 spare plug and keep in box for those " in case's". Air filter i see dirty then i change, im not sure at which mileage do u have to change though. Buy from ah boy and diy coz Ah Koon quoted me $20 for air filter....just imagine. And to think that i saw him buy his stuffs from Ah Boy b4..lol.

    Basic maintenance is all that plus chain tension....if u pillion a lot, doesnt hurt to check. Keep an eye on ur brake fluid levels also bro, and ur brake pads. Fyi, ur brake pads still got long life.

    And also....dun forget to top up petrol....heh heh.
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    more money use maxima, for normal means usage then use 4T ace. can try maxima to get the feel of the power first....lol. use normal plugs enuff.....last time i used iridium plugs b4 but felt that its a waste of money. u can just ignore me and try using it though to satisfy ur curiosity....cost ard $20 if i remember.

    air filter change when dirty, buy from ah boy and diy k coz last time ah koon quoted me $20....imagine....

    basic maintenance is all that plus check chain tension if u pillion a lot, brake fluid levels and also brake pad wear. Fyi ur brake pad still have got a lot of life in it.

    and dun forget......pump petrol to enable bike to move....khekhekhe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finrod View Post
    More money use maxima, for just normal means usage, 4T Ace is enuff. I did use iridium plugs b4 but generally felt that its a waste of money. Normal plugs will do the job. Buy 1 spare plug and keep in box for those " in case's". Air filter i see dirty then i change, im not sure at which mileage do u have to change though. Buy from ah boy and diy coz Ah Koon quoted me $20 for air filter....just imagine. And to think that i saw him buy his stuffs from Ah Boy b4..lol.

    Basic maintenance is all that plus chain tension....if u pillion a lot, doesnt hurt to check. Keep an eye on ur brake fluid levels also bro, and ur brake pads. Fyi, ur brake pads still got long life.

    And also....dun forget to top up petrol....heh heh.

    oh.. ok.. up next on my list will try your 4t ace EO.. should be around the same price as chex9000 EO yea.. i ask uncle how to change sparkplug, till now still dunno ;-(

    oh air filter on the left i think. just open and check only? so far i tighten my chain before already.

    yup petrol is a YES. or else i'm doom. hit reserved twice already though.
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    changing sparkplug is easy, done it myself b4. The tools is on the bike, i didnt take it from u......can show u how its done when we meet. The 4T ace is ard 22 yah bro.
    Btw do learn to change reserve on the fly. If on middle lane, once u got he jerking feeling, signal left, change lane and reach down to turn to reserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finrod View Post
    changing sparkplug is easy, done it myself b4. The tools is on the bike, i didnt take it from u......can show u how its done when we meet. The 4T ace is ard 22 yah bro.
    Btw do learn to change reserve on the fly. If on middle lane, once u got he jerking feeling, signal left, change lane and reach down to turn to reserve.
    oh yea... can teach me when we meet... maybe the PK highway ride?? yup saw the tools already. but dunno how to use them =p

    also learned how to change to reserved on the fly le ;-) just get it only=x
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    oh yea... can teach me when we meet... maybe the PK highway ride?? yup saw the tools already. but dunno how to use them =p

    also learned how to change to reserved on the fly le ;-) just get it only=x
    looks like u have not handle hand tools before.....just remove any covers that is in the way....pull out plug cap, use tool to remove plug (anti clockwise to unscrew when view from the top of your plug..and clockwise to tighten--unless this is a left hand screw )

    take note do not unscrew plug when the engine is hot...there is a high chance of damaging the screw threads and resulting in eo leakages through the plug. when reinstalling..always do not use force to engage screw threads.start with hand tightening then followed by a quarter turn of the tightening tool. note over tightening can cause problems lile thread damage.

    have fun....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    looks like u have not handle hand tools before.....just remove any covers that is in the way....pull out plug cap, use tool to remove plug (anti clockwise to unscrew when view from the top of your plug..and clockwise to tighten--unless this is a left hand screw )

    take note do not unscrew plug when the engine is hot...there is a high chance of damaging the screw threads and resulting in eo leakages through the plug. when reinstalling..always do not use force to engage screw threads.start with hand tightening then followed by a quarter turn of the tightening tool. note over tightening can cause problems lile thread damage.

    have fun....


    yup... don't dare to try by myself.. maybe will DIY myself when someone experience is beside me.. so that if there's any prob i would get some help ;-)

    you going for the PK ride on may too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VidaK View Post
    nope I'm using chessa... I wanna test out some other chemicals, hence I kept the EO same for this change...

    chessa is the cheapest fully syn at $16... probably cheaper if you do other service together...

    anyway, the mobil fully syn 10w40 is $21...
    perhaps at the shop it is. but just fully based on what the label says, i can find fully syn eo for bikes at $7.90
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    Try shell smei-syn EO cost ard RM24 only..
    Can reduce a bit if buy more bottles..
    Got it from those bike spare parts shop.
    Save a lot for those who like D.I.Y


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    Ok... test results of maxima extra 15w50 is out...

    I have used it for 700km, then changed it off

    sound: rougher/rawer than chex 9000

    topspeed: slightly higher (1-2km/h)

    gear changing: ok

    value: chex > maxima extra


    but there was a major problem... using the maxima caused my bike to die off when the bike hasn't warmed up yet... this does not happen with the chex... but the problem may lie with some other parts... so I shall observe my current EO... which is motul 300v 15w50

    only rode in that new EO for about 30+ km today... damn smooth... the engine starts to roar (reach powerband) from 100km/h instead of the usual 110km/h... hope this EO stays this good...

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    Phantom on Fully Synthetic ????

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VidaK View Post
    Ok... test results of maxima extra 15w50 is out...

    I have used it for 700km, then changed it off

    sound: rougher/rawer than chex 9000

    topspeed: slightly higher (1-2km/h)

    gear changing: ok

    value: chex > maxima extra


    but there was a major problem... using the maxima caused my bike to die off when the bike hasn't warmed up yet... this does not happen with the chex... but the problem may lie with some other parts... so I shall observe my current EO... which is motul 300v 15w50

    only rode in that new EO for about 30+ km today... damn smooth... the engine starts to roar (reach powerband) from 100km/h instead of the usual 110km/h... hope this EO stays this good...
    vidak change fully syn at 700km?
    Give me your old eo. leh.. haha jk.
    thanks for the review. Should try the belray.
    btw, f.y.i some eo will be smooth after a certain mileage.Eg. from a review, super 4 on the maxima after 1k is performs better than the motul.
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    what about the motu 15w50w at planet which cost $16? ( not so sure how's its spell) not "moto" for sure.


    anyone tried b4?
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    motul..$16...this is mineral oil.

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    Wah seriously? thats one expensive mineral oil. Im now on the $10 nasa from ah chong. Feels alright to me. Better than the fuchs definitely.

    Saw the $6 15w50 and 15w40 $9 castrol eo from lab. So cheap.
    However, Need to finish my putoline 15w50 first.
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    LOL ... If You changing your EO.. Let me know dude.. Lets meet and change together.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    motul..$16...this is mineral oil.

    iszt?? meaning if they did not state fully or semi in the bottle , it should be mineral oil already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hydher View Post
    Wah seriously? thats one expensive mineral oil. Im now on the $10 nasa from ah chong. Feels alright to me. Better than the fuchs definitely.

    Saw the $6 15w50 and 15w40 $9 castrol eo from lab. So cheap.
    However, Need to finish my putoline 15w50 first.
    NASA a semi sys oil? cause i'm still looking on which EO to change.. 1.5k more to go...

    Quote Originally Posted by Toyota23 View Post
    LOL ... If You changing your EO.. Let me know dude.. Lets meet and change together.....

    your millege how many already? i left 1.5k to clock before changing EO
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    I already 2K.. can Chage anytime..

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    awww.. think u need to go by yourself already ;-( i posted yesterday asking who's going planet today. nr see anyone ;(
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    ****....... should have see it man.... are U coming for the Outing on 9 May ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    what about the motu 15w50w at planet which cost $16? ( not so sure how's its spell) not "moto" for sure.


    anyone tried b4?
    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    motul..$16...this is mineral oil.
    $16 Motul should be the 5100 (semi syn). I'm using it.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finrod View Post
    Some spc petrol kiosk got workshop which can do bikes. The name of the oil i used is the said above, bottle is gold in colour. Dun buy the cheaper silver bottle k bro. Btw u might wanna check out Maxima if u want power. Honestly Maxima is way better than these 4 oils. Just use normal plugs k, dun waste money on those iridium plugs....phantom engine might not be able to fully utilise it. The money saved from buying an iridium plugs can get u a brand new air filter, cost $10 from Ah Boy....diy. If u want, u go buy the filter and i can help u show how to diy....

    Actually fully syn can last way longer than semi syn. I know of some ppl stretching to 10 000km. Personally for me, the longest i'll use the fully is 5k. Dats cost TA200 does uses up engine oil.
    huh??? don use the spc silver bottle EO?? i jus chg it ytd for 12.50 bucks.. y don use tat?? i told them juz use the normal one.. does EO boast performance on out bikes???
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    Quote Originally Posted by munkit View Post
    huh??? don use the spc silver bottle EO?? i jus chg it ytd for 12.50 bucks.. y don use tat?? i told them juz use the normal one.. does EO boast performance on out bikes???
    good EO... would protect the engine better... wah $12.50 for that is way too expensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuan.z View Post
    $16 Motul should be the 5100 (semi syn). I'm using it.
    i have stop using this....gear changes on my bike doesnt feel good ...

    yeah this one cost me $65 to have oil change and oil filter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VidaK View Post
    good EO... would protect the engine better... wah $12.50 for that is way too expensive!
    ..

    EO is the stuff that protect your engine from wear and tear....
    a simple anology is like blood that flow through ur body..without the good stuff wear and tear happens faster...and performance in every sense gets screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuan.z View Post
    $16 Motul should be the 5100 (semi syn). I'm using it.

    so its semi? some said its mineral oil lez.. so which is the correct one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VidaK View Post
    good EO... would protect the engine better... wah $12.50 for that is way too expensive!
    den tat bottle of EO usually cost how much? is that a good EO?? i told the tech to chg n use normal 1 will do.. but after reading the forum.. most ppl say use semi as old bike will haf wider gap between somewhere... i also don know its syntheic base or semi for the one i chg.

    so can all "old birds" tell mi wad to use!!!!! please!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by munkit View Post
    den tat bottle of EO usually cost how much? is that a good EO?? i told the tech to chg n use normal 1 will do.. but after reading the forum.. most ppl say use semi as old bike will haf wider gap between somewhere... i also don know its syntheic base or semi for the one i chg.

    so can all "old birds" tell mi wad to use!!!!! please!!!!!
    when the bike is old, either fully syn or semi syn would be fine... its personal preference, due to the reason you mentioned. since I like to abuse my engine I stick to fully syn...

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    I see you there dude .....

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    tks vidak for ur fast reply!!!!!!!!

    btw all kind soul out there.. if u all haf time.. can post out all the brands of EO being use frequently.. both fully or semi..

    really appreciate!!!!
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    the eo which is hot in market is motu $26
    maxium $2x
    chex9000 $16

    can be bought from planet
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    Quote Originally Posted by munkit View Post
    tks vidak for ur fast reply!!!!!!!!

    btw all kind soul out there.. if u all haf time.. can post out all the brands of EO being use frequently.. both fully or semi..

    really appreciate!!!!
    haha... well... apart from chex 9000, the rest of the EO I only just for one time only...

    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    the eo which is hot in market is motu $26
    maxium $2x
    chex9000 $16

    can be bought from planet
    motul 300v from planet is a little expensive, because got a place wholeselling them elsewhere... buts thats fine for a one time oil change

    well... there are too too too many different kind of EO out there... there are castrol, putoline, mobil, shell, maxima, motul, verity, belray, ows, agrip, redline, royal purple, etc...

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    ahh.. maybe i just stick to chex9000 ;-)
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    Personnal opinion
    For my 7 yr old phantom,
    Semi syn= good liao
    Fully syn= not good as sometimes change gear can kanna stuck on.
    seen b4 in a thread saying full-syn for old bike is not good as the EO too thin to lub the gears. i think it is so for my case.
    gonna chnage back to semi-syn.

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    So what semi would u think is good?

    maxium or mobil?

    personallly i find that fully sys eo gives me more power. PICKUP speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    So what semi would u think is good?

    maxium or mobil?

    personallly i find that fully sys eo gives me more power. PICKUP speed.
    using motul 300v, my topspeed increased from 136km/h to 142km/h (phantom speedo)...

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    iszt?? motul 300v how much is it? semi? i wanna try also
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    iszt?? motul 300v how much is it? semi? i wanna try also
    planet sells it at $28. although there are places which sell them cheaper... check out the accessories forum... its fully syn... of course

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    wooo... so expensive..

    so any other good eo which is price of chex9000 to recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    wooo... so expensive..

    so any other good eo which is price of chex9000 to recommend?
    try belray thumper 20w50 semi syn from unique motorsports. First 1000km is soso. After that... wish i didnt need to change at 2k.
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