[Discussion] Boxes, Panniers & Saddlebags

[Kev's]

For all the discussions, reviews, feedbacks, infos & etcs on the storage on/for the Phantoms.

[Kev's]

Common brands in Singapore:

Givi

Kappa

Zeus

SHAD

Hepco & Becker

Common Top Cases:

E450


E33


E52


V46


E20


Common Side Cases:

E21


E36


E41


Saddles:

Givi

Rjays

[ifourdesign]

Hi there,
is there any small side box available?
anyone has it?

cos i searched around mostly the medium to big ones e.g givi e21, HK, etc.

[jB]

anything smaller than 21 should be not worth it and makes no sense too hence not in production there is one that should be slightly smaller, go to LAB and ask

[ifourdesign]

haha. mayb i shd just buy a baggg.

[jB]

H-pack? 15char

[hamsterwhale]

Hi there,
is there any small side box available?
anyone has it?

cos i searched around mostly the medium to big ones e.g givi e21, HK, etc.

look ard for those 7.62mm ammo box sure fit

[VidaK]

look ard for those 7.62mm ammo box sure fit

and remember to paste explosives! class 1.4 sticker

[ifourdesign]

haha, that one easy to find. hard to get.

[jB]

Or you can do toolbox as side panniers like what a lecturer did

[Finrod]

lol, saw that lecturer b4 with toolbox as panniers.....

[karmede_s9]

hi guys.
am considering of putting those top boxes as my side box for my TA200 . anyone done before have any advise or know where is the best place to install em ? and the price ? thanks alot

[Kev's]

hi guys.
am considering of putting those top boxes as my side box for my TA200 . anyone done before have any advise or know where is the best place to install em ? and the price ? thanks alot

Yes, some did it before.
LAB.
but IMO, not advisable as it'll leak via the lock catch area.
For side pods, you may seriously consider Givi's E21(21L), E36(36L) or even E20N(monolock) as they're not that big in side giving the rider problems in built up traffic.
Otherwise, if width is nt a problem for you, there's always E41s...

For the aforementioned E21 & 36, its under Monokey, which is a universal rack.
If use Monolock, better to have metal baseplates for attaching on.

[karmede_s9]

thanks KeV. but do u happen to know roughly how much would the damage be on the pocket

Yes, some did it before.
LAB.
but IMO, not advisable as it'll leak via the lock catch area.
For side pods, you may seriously consider Givi's E21(21L), E36(36L) or even E20N(monolock) as they're not that big in side giving the rider problems in built up traffic.
Otherwise, if width is nt a problem for you, there's always E41s...

For the aforementioned E21 & 36, its under Monokey, which is a universal rack.
If use Monolock, better to have metal baseplates for attaching on.

[Pandora's Kitten :3]

I got a set of E21s for $250 (that means 125 each) including brackets. You can likely get them for cheaper from other places. I didn't put on a top box as it would make the machine look top heavy.

[Chrisboy]

I got a set of E21s for $250 (that means 125 each) including brackets. You can likely get them for cheaper from other places. I didn't put on a top box as it would make the machine look top heavy.

So meaning to say can find even more cheaper E21 out there if we do homework ?
But then any1 know where to find cheap or even 2nd handed e21 sidebox ?

[VidaK]

So meaning to say can find even more cheaper E21 out there if we do homework ?
But then any1 know where to find cheap or even 2nd handed e21 sidebox ?

hmmm... I got mine from ah boy for $180... with installation of course...

[Chrisboy]

hmmm... I got mine from ah boy for $180... with installation of course...

So meaning to say LAB is the most cheap liao right?
$90 per box + fix up for us = $180 in total
unless is 2nd hand de?

[pureice68]

So meaning to say LAB is the most cheap liao right?
$90 per box + fix up for us = $180 in total
unless is 2nd hand de?

Yup, same as mine! Box + installation = S$180.00.

[weian]

Few questions here.

1. Is e36 and e45 the same? I googled it and it appeared to be the same thing to me. Or is e36 the side boxes and e45 the top box? Or it doesn't make a difference?
2. Is it able to fit a helmet, or better, 2 (referring when used as side box)?
2. Will e36/e45 leak water if used as side boxes?
3. Is the normal top box phantom users have E450? Will it leak if we use it as side boxes?

For your professional advise please!

[VidaK]

So meaning to say LAB is the most cheap liao right?
$90 per box + fix up for us = $180 in total
unless is 2nd hand de?

of course its first hand!

[kmjoe]

Few questions here.

1. Is e36 and e45 the same? I googled it and it appeared to be the same thing to me. Or is e36 the side boxes and e45 the top box? Or it doesn't make a difference?
2. Is it able to fit a helmet, or better, 2 (referring when used as side box)?
3. Will e36/e45 leak water if used as side boxes?
4. Is the normal top box phantom users have E450? Will it leak if we use it as side boxes?

For your professional advise please!

1. it may look the same but size is surely not the same
2. e45 sld be able to fit helmets in, not sure abt e36
3. if the boxes are ment to be side box den very unlikely it can leak, givi is a pretty well known brand
4. there are many different top box ard, its safest to use a box which are ment to be side box if u really want a side box, otherwise it MAY leak coz they may not be constructed to resist water side ways

[weian]

mm ok sure thanks bro!

[Chrisboy]

of course its first hand!

Pai Sei my bad wad i mean was unless find 2nd hand will be cheaper ?

[VidaK]

Pai Sei my bad wad i mean was unless find 2nd hand will be cheaper ?

ha its ok I understand what you meant...

hmmm... 2nd hand would be cheaper yes...

[Chrisboy]

ha its ok I understand what you meant...

hmmm... 2nd hand would be cheaper yes...

anyway even if we know 2nd hand is cheaper but still no1 is sell and more ppl are still buying and not selling i have ask so many shop every shop will just tell me the same thing very hard to find....

[VidaK]

anyway even if we know 2nd hand is cheaper but still no1 is sell and more ppl are still buying and not selling i have ask so many shop every shop will just tell me the same thing very hard to find....

of course no one will sell it back to the shops... they sell it here in the forum's garage sales...

[B_E_N]

why nobody talks about saddle bag ? LOL jus wanna share my view of storage(not promoting)
there is other options other den box.

saddle bad do come in diff size also, will not say 100% water proof, but can say 99% water proof(w/o damage de of coz)
price is 170 for the normal 1 ( design there is quite a few)
there are small size de also, will be cheaper den that. not sure the smaller size price

place to get u can go down to ah koon at lengkok bahru blk 61(its a HDB blk)

[Pandora's Kitten :3]

Saddlebags look great if that's your thing. They look kind of cute, even. They're best matched with a frame to support the bottom of the bags, to even out the stress (esp if they're big bags), so the final cost may exceed that of 2x E21s with mountings.

I wouldn't mind having a little fork bag for the 'cute' factor... anyone have a good pic of one?

[B_E_N]

Saddlebags look great if that's your thing. They look kind of cute, even. They're best matched with a frame to support the bottom of the bags, to even out the stress (esp if they're big bags), so the final cost may exceed that of 2x E21s with mountings.

I wouldn't mind having a little fork bag for the 'cute' factor... anyone have a good pic of one?

its wun need strong mounting. jus a L shape bar/strip will do..
erm i didn't take any pic of mine b4 so cant help. haha
mine is a white snake skin design.

[Zhi Ming]

i'm still waiting for 2nd hand saddlebags...

[kmjoe]

why nobody talks about saddle bag ? LOL jus wanna share my view of storage(not promoting)
there is other options other den box.

saddle bad do come in diff size also, will not say 100% water proof, but can say 99% water proof(w/o damage de of coz)
price is 170 for the normal 1 ( design there is quite a few)
there are small size de also, will be cheaper den that. not sure the smaller size price

place to get u can go down to ah koon at lengkok bahru blk 61(its a HDB blk)

personal experience, for me its about 80% water proof... for some unknown reason my saddle bag may get a little wet / damp inside... den i haf to clean each of my tools one by one

[Pandora's Kitten :3]

A little bit of damp doesn't affect their coolness

Hmn strangely I'm thinking of tiny saddlebags to put on the space between my side boxes and the seat. :3

[B_E_N]

i'm still waiting for 2nd hand saddlebags...

advise, dun get 2nd hand saddle bag ba, jus a new 1

personal experience, for me its about 80% water proof... for some unknown reason my saddle bag may get a little wet / damp inside... den i haf to clean each of my tools one by one

where u get the saddle bag from? my friends and i de no problem leh.
but now mine got a bit damage so got water go in, but i jus put the absorb water de thing for cardboard inside my bag so can absorb the mositure.

[kmjoe]

where u get the saddle bag from? my friends and i de no problem leh.
but now mine got a bit damage so got water go in, but i jus put the absorb water de thing for cardboard inside my bag so can absorb the mositure.

ya lor, bikee de also nvr damp or wad leh... damage in wad way? cld u pls show a pic of the water absorbing thingy in ur bag? might need to put tt, now i using plastic to cover my tool bag n tools but lehchey...
do u have brackets to support ur bag? i suspect is coz i dun have, den the bag is sort of bend den water manage to damp it bah...

[navyjohn]

Hi gt 2 hand e21 side box for sell ma if u have call me thanks my name John 94599330

[Chrisboy]

Hi gt 2 hand e21 side box for sell ma if u have call me thanks my name John 94599330

Brother do some homework if not just buy new1

[Zhi Ming]

Has anyone bought 2nd hand sideboxes + racks and fitted them at Planet?

My rack seem to have rusted and i aint sure i can remove/fix myself. Any idea if Planet does it and the rough cost? Thanks !

[zpjohnny]

hey guys, wanna verify something first.
i plan to just buy right side E21 side box only. is the side boxes sell in pairs or can buy juz 1 side ?

i deciding it because im driving my mother around on weekends, so easier for her to up and down on left side.

otherise i ned go scrapyard buy 2nd hand E21 that sells rights ide ler

[Pandora's Kitten :3]

I don't think there should be any issue purchasing one E21 besides the keys which may be matched to a pair.

Watch the off-centre weight, though.

[Kev's]

Has anyone bought 2nd hand sideboxes + racks and fitted them at Planet?

My rack seem to have rusted and i aint sure i can remove/fix myself. Any idea if Planet does it and the rough cost? Thanks !

a simple spray of the WD40 shall do.
otherwise, can request ah chong for the impact wrench.
as long as you have all the neccessary bolts, nuts, spacers, washers & brackets, it shldnt be a hassle of fixing.
only thing is the extension for the rear signals.
try not to just cut & twirl the wires together & then just black tape it.
best is to use wire lug connectors.
Best is if u can DIY...

or u pay me a sum & i do for u...
but u must have all the things prepared.

hey guys, wanna verify something first.
i plan to just buy right side E21 side box only. is the side boxes sell in pairs or can buy juz 1 side ?

i deciding it because im driving my mother around on weekends, so easier for her to up and down on left side.

otherise i ned go scrapyard buy 2nd hand E21 that sells rights ide ler

I don't think there should be any issue purchasing one E21 besides the keys which may be matched to a pair.

Watch the off-centre weight, though.

they seldom sell just one side, unless you can find someone who only need 1 side & you can share cost.

its still best to hv the pair on.
IMO, i didnt have problems for my pillion mounting/dismounting.
its just hw u place the boxes.
off centre weight wise, since oready accustomed to the normal heavy rear weight, just additional add ons doesnt much a difference unless you choose the heavy E360s or E41s..

[zpjohnny]

Noted. thanks for the infos. i considered the possibilities of 1 side as well, and i plan to put all tools inside that side box.
because my mother had problems going up even without the boxes currently. haha. sit 1 time, nag 1 time ask me buy car >.< but i can tell her heart damn song sitting the bike lar. her last time sitting bike is when my father dated her 30 over years ago haahaa.

sorry for the off topics.... thanks again.

[Zhi Ming]

a simple spray of the WD40 shall do.
otherwise, can request ah chong for the impact wrench.
as long as you have all the neccessary bolts, nuts, spacers, washers & brackets, it shldnt be a hassle of fixing.
only thing is the extension for the rear signals.
try not to just cut & twirl the wires together & then just black tape it.
best is to use wire lug connectors.
Best is if u can DIY...

or u pay me a sum & i do for u...
but u must have all the things prepared.

hahaha kev , what are the things that must be prepared?

i was thinking use snapei method , just shift the boxes slightly in front so no need to touch signal lights. I dont pillion people often so it doesnt matter whether it blocks the pillion leg or watever

[kmjoe]

Noted. thanks for the infos. i considered the possibilities of 1 side as well, and i plan to put all tools inside that side box.
because my mother had problems going up even without the boxes currently. haha. sit 1 time, nag 1 time ask me buy car >.< but i can tell her heart damn song sitting the bike lar. her last time sitting bike is when my father dated her 30 over years ago haahaa.

sorry for the off topics.... thanks again.

if u only wana put tools i might suggest u to try find a small saddle bag n put somewhere... ah koon bought one in the last time i went there, abt 50+... can put rain suit or bike cover...

[Zhi Ming]

if u only wana put tools i might suggest u to try find a small saddle bag n put somewhere... ah koon bought one in the last time i went there, abt 50+... can put rain suit or bike cover...

or you can try going lavendar motoworld to see , they got saddlebags $130-$160 type

[Kev's]

hahaha kev , what are the things that must be prepared?

i was thinking use snapei method , just shift the boxes slightly in front so no need to touch signal lights. I dont pillion people often so it doesnt matter whether it blocks the pillion leg or watever

also can.
but you'll need all the bolts(different sizes needed), spacers, washers, brackets & the 2 racks.
jus bring yrself, the abv mentioned items & yr bike shld be suffice.
the boxes i can borrow you mine for testing & measurement.

labour fees... ah....

[Zhi Ming]

hahaha ok i try to DIY first , if cannot then go pay u a visit with all the items...labour fee lunch and dinner enough anot

any idea what is the type of bolt needed? length etc

[B_E_N]

ya lor, bikee de also nvr damp or wad leh... damage in wad way? cld u pls show a pic of the water absorbing thingy in ur bag? might need to put tt, now i using plastic to cover my tool bag n tools but lehchey...
do u have brackets to support ur bag? i suspect is coz i dun have, den the bag is sort of bend den water manage to damp it bah...

give me some time i go and take pic and post

[Kev's]

hahaha ok i try to DIY first , if cannot then go pay u a visit with all the items...labour fee lunch and dinner enough anot

any idea what is the type of bolt needed? length etc

er... nah...
prefer cold hard cash changed into teh halia(boleh land's de pls).

erm, hv to trial & err abt the lengths, but can be bought over a screw shop near ah chong's.

[Zhi Ming]

er... nah...
prefer cold hard cash changed into teh halia(boleh land's de pls).

erm, hv to trial & err abt the lengths, but can be bought over a screw shop near ah chong's.

hahaha boleh land teh halia so nice meh

hmmm if the screw length is trial and error , then i better go ah chong there lo...then he say need wat length i just go buy