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    Default [Discussion] Boxes, Panniers & Saddlebags

    For all the discussions, reviews, feedbacks, infos & etcs on the storage on/for the Phantoms.
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    Common brands in Singapore:

    Givi

    Kappa

    Zeus

    SHAD

    Hepco & Becker

    Common Top Cases:

    E450


    E33


    E52


    V46


    E20


    Common Side Cases:

    E21


    E36


    E41


    Saddles:

    Givi

    Rjays
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    Default Smallest side box possible?

    Hi there,
    is there any small side box available?
    anyone has it?

    cos i searched around mostly the medium to big ones e.g givi e21, HK, etc.

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    anything smaller than 21 should be not worth it and makes no sense too hence not in production there is one that should be slightly smaller, go to LAB and ask
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifourdesign View Post
    Hi there,
    is there any small side box available?
    anyone has it?

    cos i searched around mostly the medium to big ones e.g givi e21, HK, etc.
    look ard for those 7.62mm ammo box sure fit
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterwhale View Post
    look ard for those 7.62mm ammo box sure fit
    and remember to paste explosives! class 1.4 sticker

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    haha. mayb i shd just buy a baggg.

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    H-pack? 15char
    Click below link or copy+paste for good deals!
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    haha, that one easy to find. hard to get.

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    Or you can do toolbox as side panniers like what a lecturer did
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    lol, saw that lecturer b4 with toolbox as panniers.....
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    hi guys.
    am considering of putting those top boxes as my side box for my TA200 . anyone done before have any advise or know where is the best place to install em ? and the price ? thanks alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmede_s9 View Post
    hi guys.
    am considering of putting those top boxes as my side box for my TA200 . anyone done before have any advise or know where is the best place to install em ? and the price ? thanks alot
    Yes, some did it before.
    LAB.
    but IMO, not advisable as it'll leak via the lock catch area.
    For side pods, you may seriously consider Givi's E21(21L), E36(36L) or even E20N(monolock) as they're not that big in side giving the rider problems in built up traffic.
    Otherwise, if width is nt a problem for you, there's always E41s...

    For the aforementioned E21 & 36, its under Monokey, which is a universal rack.
    If use Monolock, better to have metal baseplates for attaching on.
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    thanks KeV. but do u happen to know roughly how much would the damage be on the pocket



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    Yes, some did it before.
    LAB.
    but IMO, not advisable as it'll leak via the lock catch area.
    For side pods, you may seriously consider Givi's E21(21L), E36(36L) or even E20N(monolock) as they're not that big in side giving the rider problems in built up traffic.
    Otherwise, if width is nt a problem for you, there's always E41s...

    For the aforementioned E21 & 36, its under Monokey, which is a universal rack.
    If use Monolock, better to have metal baseplates for attaching on.

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    I got a set of E21s for $250 (that means 125 each) including brackets. You can likely get them for cheaper from other places. I didn't put on a top box as it would make the machine look top heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyan View Post
    I got a set of E21s for $250 (that means 125 each) including brackets. You can likely get them for cheaper from other places. I didn't put on a top box as it would make the machine look top heavy.
    So meaning to say can find even more cheaper E21 out there if we do homework ?
    But then any1 know where to find cheap or even 2nd handed e21 sidebox ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisboy View Post
    So meaning to say can find even more cheaper E21 out there if we do homework ?
    But then any1 know where to find cheap or even 2nd handed e21 sidebox ?
    hmmm... I got mine from ah boy for $180... with installation of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VidaK View Post
    hmmm... I got mine from ah boy for $180... with installation of course...
    So meaning to say LAB is the most cheap liao right?
    $90 per box + fix up for us = $180 in total
    unless is 2nd hand de?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisboy View Post
    So meaning to say LAB is the most cheap liao right?
    $90 per box + fix up for us = $180 in total
    unless is 2nd hand de?
    Yup, same as mine! Box + installation = S$180.00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisboy View Post
    So meaning to say LAB is the most cheap liao right?
    $90 per box + fix up for us = $180 in total
    unless is 2nd hand de?
    of course its first hand!

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    Few questions here.

    1. Is e36 and e45 the same? I googled it and it appeared to be the same thing to me. Or is e36 the side boxes and e45 the top box? Or it doesn't make a difference?
    2. Is it able to fit a helmet, or better, 2 (referring when used as side box)?
    2. Will e36/e45 leak water if used as side boxes?
    3. Is the normal top box phantom users have E450? Will it leak if we use it as side boxes?

    For your professional advise please!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by weian View Post
    Few questions here.

    1. Is e36 and e45 the same? I googled it and it appeared to be the same thing to me. Or is e36 the side boxes and e45 the top box? Or it doesn't make a difference?
    2. Is it able to fit a helmet, or better, 2 (referring when used as side box)?
    3. Will e36/e45 leak water if used as side boxes?
    4. Is the normal top box phantom users have E450? Will it leak if we use it as side boxes?

    For your professional advise please!
    1. it may look the same but size is surely not the same
    2. e45 sld be able to fit helmets in, not sure abt e36
    3. if the boxes are ment to be side box den very unlikely it can leak, givi is a pretty well known brand
    4. there are many different top box ard, its safest to use a box which are ment to be side box if u really want a side box, otherwise it MAY leak coz they may not be constructed to resist water side ways

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    mm ok sure thanks bro!

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    why nobody talks about saddle bag ? LOL jus wanna share my view of storage(not promoting)
    there is other options other den box.

    saddle bad do come in diff size also, will not say 100% water proof, but can say 99% water proof(w/o damage de of coz)
    price is 170 for the normal 1 ( design there is quite a few)
    there are small size de also, will be cheaper den that. not sure the smaller size price

    place to get u can go down to ah koon at lengkok bahru blk 61(its a HDB blk)

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    Quote Originally Posted by B_E_N View Post
    why nobody talks about saddle bag ? LOL jus wanna share my view of storage(not promoting)
    there is other options other den box.

    saddle bad do come in diff size also, will not say 100% water proof, but can say 99% water proof(w/o damage de of coz)
    price is 170 for the normal 1 ( design there is quite a few)
    there are small size de also, will be cheaper den that. not sure the smaller size price

    place to get u can go down to ah koon at lengkok bahru blk 61(its a HDB blk)
    personal experience, for me its about 80% water proof... for some unknown reason my saddle bag may get a little wet / damp inside... den i haf to clean each of my tools one by one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi Ming View Post
    i'm still waiting for 2nd hand saddlebags...
    advise, dun get 2nd hand saddle bag ba, jus a new 1

    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    personal experience, for me its about 80% water proof... for some unknown reason my saddle bag may get a little wet / damp inside... den i haf to clean each of my tools one by one
    where u get the saddle bag from? my friends and i de no problem leh.
    but now mine got a bit damage so got water go in, but i jus put the absorb water de thing for cardboard inside my bag so can absorb the mositure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B_E_N View Post
    where u get the saddle bag from? my friends and i de no problem leh.
    but now mine got a bit damage so got water go in, but i jus put the absorb water de thing for cardboard inside my bag so can absorb the mositure.
    ya lor, bikee de also nvr damp or wad leh... damage in wad way? cld u pls show a pic of the water absorbing thingy in ur bag? might need to put tt, now i using plastic to cover my tool bag n tools but lehchey...
    do u have brackets to support ur bag? i suspect is coz i dun have, den the bag is sort of bend den water manage to damp it bah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    ya lor, bikee de also nvr damp or wad leh... damage in wad way? cld u pls show a pic of the water absorbing thingy in ur bag? might need to put tt, now i using plastic to cover my tool bag n tools but lehchey...
    do u have brackets to support ur bag? i suspect is coz i dun have, den the bag is sort of bend den water manage to damp it bah...
    give me some time i go and take pic and post

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    Quote Originally Posted by B_E_N View Post
    why nobody talks about saddle bag ? LOL jus wanna share my view of storage(not promoting)
    there is other options other den box.

    saddle bad do come in diff size also, will not say 100% water proof, but can say 99% water proof(w/o damage de of coz)
    price is 170 for the normal 1 ( design there is quite a few)
    there are small size de also, will be cheaper den that. not sure the smaller size price

    place to get u can go down to ah koon at lengkok bahru blk 61(its a HDB blk)
    ah ben you no good, neber mention me... someone my price cheaper leh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    ah ben you no good, neber mention me... someone my price cheaper leh.
    opsss... ps la, long time nvr see u post kinda 4get liao
    but u still got stock on hand? u try post a few here lo, i tink some mayb interested.. saddle bag like lesser ppl play le.. all wan box, so boring.

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    Saddlebags look great if that's your thing. They look kind of cute, even. They're best matched with a frame to support the bottom of the bags, to even out the stress (esp if they're big bags), so the final cost may exceed that of 2x E21s with mountings.

    I wouldn't mind having a little fork bag for the 'cute' factor... anyone have a good pic of one?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyan View Post
    Saddlebags look great if that's your thing. They look kind of cute, even. They're best matched with a frame to support the bottom of the bags, to even out the stress (esp if they're big bags), so the final cost may exceed that of 2x E21s with mountings.

    I wouldn't mind having a little fork bag for the 'cute' factor... anyone have a good pic of one?
    its wun need strong mounting. jus a L shape bar/strip will do..
    erm i didn't take any pic of mine b4 so cant help. haha
    mine is a white snake skin design.

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    i'm still waiting for 2nd hand saddlebags...
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    A little bit of damp doesn't affect their coolness

    Hmn strangely I'm thinking of tiny saddlebags to put on the space between my side boxes and the seat. :3

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    Hi gt 2 hand e21 side box for sell ma if u have call me thanks my name John 94599330

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyjohn View Post
    Hi gt 2 hand e21 side box for sell ma if u have call me thanks my name John 94599330
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    Has anyone bought 2nd hand sideboxes + racks and fitted them at Planet?

    My rack seem to have rusted and i aint sure i can remove/fix myself. Any idea if Planet does it and the rough cost? Thanks !
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    hey guys, wanna verify something first.
    i plan to just buy right side E21 side box only. is the side boxes sell in pairs or can buy juz 1 side ?

    i deciding it because im driving my mother around on weekends, so easier for her to up and down on left side.

    otherise i ned go scrapyard buy 2nd hand E21 that sells rights ide ler
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    I don't think there should be any issue purchasing one E21 besides the keys which may be matched to a pair.

    Watch the off-centre weight, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi Ming View Post
    Has anyone bought 2nd hand sideboxes + racks and fitted them at Planet?

    My rack seem to have rusted and i aint sure i can remove/fix myself. Any idea if Planet does it and the rough cost? Thanks !
    a simple spray of the WD40 shall do.
    otherwise, can request ah chong for the impact wrench.
    as long as you have all the neccessary bolts, nuts, spacers, washers & brackets, it shldnt be a hassle of fixing.
    only thing is the extension for the rear signals.
    try not to just cut & twirl the wires together & then just black tape it.
    best is to use wire lug connectors.
    Best is if u can DIY...

    or u pay me a sum & i do for u...
    but u must have all the things prepared.

    Quote Originally Posted by zpjohnny View Post
    hey guys, wanna verify something first.
    i plan to just buy right side E21 side box only. is the side boxes sell in pairs or can buy juz 1 side ?

    i deciding it because im driving my mother around on weekends, so easier for her to up and down on left side.

    otherise i ned go scrapyard buy 2nd hand E21 that sells rights ide ler
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyan View Post
    I don't think there should be any issue purchasing one E21 besides the keys which may be matched to a pair.

    Watch the off-centre weight, though.
    they seldom sell just one side, unless you can find someone who only need 1 side & you can share cost.

    its still best to hv the pair on.
    IMO, i didnt have problems for my pillion mounting/dismounting.
    its just hw u place the boxes.
    off centre weight wise, since oready accustomed to the normal heavy rear weight, just additional add ons doesnt much a difference unless you choose the heavy E360s or E41s..
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    Noted. thanks for the infos. i considered the possibilities of 1 side as well, and i plan to put all tools inside that side box.
    because my mother had problems going up even without the boxes currently. haha. sit 1 time, nag 1 time ask me buy car >.< but i can tell her heart damn song sitting the bike lar. her last time sitting bike is when my father dated her 30 over years ago haahaa.

    sorry for the off topics.... thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zpjohnny View Post
    Noted. thanks for the infos. i considered the possibilities of 1 side as well, and i plan to put all tools inside that side box.
    because my mother had problems going up even without the boxes currently. haha. sit 1 time, nag 1 time ask me buy car >.< but i can tell her heart damn song sitting the bike lar. her last time sitting bike is when my father dated her 30 over years ago haahaa.

    sorry for the off topics.... thanks again.
    if u only wana put tools i might suggest u to try find a small saddle bag n put somewhere... ah koon bought one in the last time i went there, abt 50+... can put rain suit or bike cover...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    if u only wana put tools i might suggest u to try find a small saddle bag n put somewhere... ah koon bought one in the last time i went there, abt 50+... can put rain suit or bike cover...
    or you can try going lavendar motoworld to see , they got saddlebags $130-$160 type
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeV's View Post
    a simple spray of the WD40 shall do.
    otherwise, can request ah chong for the impact wrench.
    as long as you have all the neccessary bolts, nuts, spacers, washers & brackets, it shldnt be a hassle of fixing.
    only thing is the extension for the rear signals.
    try not to just cut & twirl the wires together & then just black tape it.
    best is to use wire lug connectors.
    Best is if u can DIY...

    or u pay me a sum & i do for u...
    but u must have all the things prepared.
    hahaha kev , what are the things that must be prepared?

    i was thinking use snapei method , just shift the boxes slightly in front so no need to touch signal lights. I dont pillion people often so it doesnt matter whether it blocks the pillion leg or watever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi Ming View Post
    hahaha kev , what are the things that must be prepared?

    i was thinking use snapei method , just shift the boxes slightly in front so no need to touch signal lights. I dont pillion people often so it doesnt matter whether it blocks the pillion leg or watever
    also can.
    but you'll need all the bolts(different sizes needed), spacers, washers, brackets & the 2 racks.
    jus bring yrself, the abv mentioned items & yr bike shld be suffice.
    the boxes i can borrow you mine for testing & measurement.

    labour fees... ah....



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    hahaha ok i try to DIY first , if cannot then go pay u a visit with all the items...labour fee lunch and dinner enough anot

    any idea what is the type of bolt needed? length etc
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    I want the little saddlebags to put on my pillion seat

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    haiz just back from planet , ah chong says need 2 brackets from ah boy to extend the signal lights out? He also said today too busy , come back on Tues as its a 2hrs job ...

    Any idea how much the 2 brackets cost at ah boy ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi Ming View Post
    haiz just back from planet , ah chong says need 2 brackets from ah boy to extend the signal lights out? He also said today too busy , come back on Tues as its a 2hrs job ...

    Any idea how much the 2 brackets cost at ah boy ?
    Repairs / Maintenance :

    * Fuel Sensor $40 (Planet)custom 4 & above
    * Battery $26Yuasa/$38(plug and play) (LAB) / $35 (Planet) / $48 (Ah Koon)/ $60 woodlands road carltex (7Ah battery)
    * Steering cone $55-65
    * Chain Tensioner $55-60 (for tick tick sound at cold start)
    * Front brake disc $45
    * Tyres (metz lasertec) $160 front & back just changed on monday at planet
    * Chain $70-120 depending on type
    * Chain + Sprocket - $140+/-
    * DID O RING with Original Honda Sprocket - $130 (planet)
    * Signal lights - depending on which type you like. $8-25.
    * Signal bulb, headlight bulb - 1 $ (LAB, easy DIY) (add on: approved brighter ones for $8. bought from koon.)
    * Speedo BackLight + Workmanship (Planet) - S$2
    * Headlight - anywhere from $35 to 90 depending the type you like.
    * Spark plug - $2-20 [[ Replay once had his changed for S$2 ]]
    * Engine oil - $6 -18 (jB got his lousiest EO for $3)
    * Brake Pad $15-25
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    * Air filter - $10 <- LAB (can buy and DIY)
    * Wheel ball bearings - $20-35 (depends on how mech chop u) jtzx: change for only $5 at planet
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    * Clutch plate - $80 (Planet)
    * Front fork (1 pair) - $330 (planet)
    * Front fork seals (plus fork oil of course) - $65 (planet)
    * Front fork tube (1 x) - $30 (planet)
    * Rectifier - $75 (planet)
    * Coil - $180 (planet)
    * Rethreading of spark plug thread - between $35 - $45.
    * Gasket - $30 (koon)
    * Gasket @ Exhaust - $25 (Planet)
    * Starter carbon - $60 (planet)
    * Front fender - $45 (original honda) ($28 at ah boy, DIY 4 screws only)
    * Rear brake plate w/ pad $58 (planet)
    * Rear brake disc - $80 (planet)
    * Original rear suspension $180 (planet)
    * Repair front brake pump (jam) and replace brake oil -$25 - (planet)
    * Replace entire front brake pump ($80) - (planet)
    * Rear Brake Pump ($85) (planet)
    * Overhaul: Piston+Ring+Block+Top gasket+EO+Plug - ($380) - (planet)
    * Rear brake light 12 v 5w/18w $1 (planet)
    * Clutch cable - $15 (planet) / $20 (ah koon)
    * Throttle cable - $12 (planet)
    * Front Brake/Clutch Lever - $8 each(planet)
    * Balancer [the 2 silver thingies at the edge of your handlebars] - $15 (planet)
    * Front fender -$45 (AMK HL motors)
    * Spark plug cap - $18 (planet)
    * regina gold chain, front & rear honda sprockets with installation at ah boy- $120

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    * Respray of bike, (front/rear mudguard + Tank) single color - $180 (H L Cycle)
    * Wide handlebar (custom4 phantom type) - $38
    * Wide Crashbar with mounting points for spotlights - $80
    * Big Footrest - $60 madman - Pinkphantom.com
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    * Rear\Eagle footrest - $25/pair @ LAB (just bought today, now is $30)
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    * Voltage stabiliser - $59-$120 depends
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    * Stainless steel screws for speedo, and side covers. 6 to change altogether. $1-$1.80 also bought from koon.
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    * Gear lever with rubber $20 at koon
    * Chrome gear and brake levers set - madman
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    * Phantom TA 200 gearbox - $540 (planet)
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    * Spotlights on crashbar with installation- $35 at koon
    * Crashbar- $65 from ah boy DIY
    * Anchor and wide type crashbar - madman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi Ming View Post
    haiz just back from planet , ah chong says need 2 brackets from ah boy to extend the signal lights out? He also said today too busy , come back on Tues as its a 2hrs job ...

    Any idea how much the 2 brackets cost at ah boy ?
    you need two L shaped brackets... they cost a few dollars...

    you can get them at the brackets / LED / DIY shop at ubi which ah chong would usually ask people to go... although he might simply tell you to go to ah boy if he thinks he couldn't make you understand wheree this bracket shop is...




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