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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterwhale View Post
    try looking for those headlight plastic restorer, last saw in a petrol kiosk by turtle wax for 20+, if minor scratch still can maybe restore, if too deep then bo pian liao....can i ask if anyone has a high speed buffing machine in their workshop???i need to experiment something to cure my curiosity....
    Thanks Hamster! Will try that out as scratches seems to be filling my visor! Hehehe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterwhale View Post
    try looking for those headlight plastic restorer, last saw in a petrol kiosk by turtle wax for 20+, if minor scratch still can maybe restore, if too deep then bo pian liao....can i ask if anyone has a high speed buffing machine in their workshop???i need to experiment something to cure my curiosity....
    how high speed is considered high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    last time my givi simply can fit 2 flip ups no problem.. kappa 42l should be able to fit also.. position the helmet proper. unless yours are very big shell helmets..
    I've tried many positions but still cannot leh! So I kept my pillion's FF in the top box and lock my FF with a chainlock to my rack, either that, just carry my FF around lor! But alot peeps staring as probably they've never seen a fat uncle carrying a FF b4! Hahahaha...
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    Quote Originally Posted by z060166 View Post
    Hey guys, new phantom rider here..should have read this thread earlier and i would've gotten ff...damn!

    Anw was wondering how much does a balaclava and a decent waterproof jacket cost and where to get ah?
    Bro, this may sound ridiculous but my sincere advise is to trade in for FF's asap! We had and accident last week and the doc at SGH A&E said thanks to the FF that had save my wife's pretty face! I later took a look at her FF and really thank God for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    I've tried many positions but still cannot leh! So I kept my pillion's FF in the top box and lock my FF with a chainlock to my rack, either that, just carry my FF around lor! But alot peeps staring as probably they've never seen a fat uncle carrying a FF b4! Hahahaha...
    what size are your helmets? some big shell helmets will have difficulty.. mine was a M nolan flip up and agv S flip up.. but flipup shells are generally bigger.

    how did you put the helmets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Bro, this may sound ridiculous but my sincere advise is to trade in for FF's asap! We had and accident last week and the doc at SGH A&E said thanks to the FF that had save my wife's pretty face! I later took a look at her FF and really thank God for it!
    God look out for his children ;D speedy recovery pureice =D
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    dang, now im confuse... FF, flip up, oxford bone dry riding boot, some mid cut riding boot or water proof armor jacket

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    dang, now im confuse... FF, flip up, oxford bone dry riding boot, some mid cut riding boot or water proof armor jacket
    if you are tight on budget, i will suggest getting one item one by one. starting with the head protection 1st.

    most motorcyclists fatalities is due to injuries or severe trauma to the head.

    the reason i don trust flip-ups is cos it's not a one whole piece constructed helmet. imo, FF helmets offer the best protection.
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    yup true... but the reason for my hesitation for the FF is coz i alrdy have 2 helmets and i had a pretty hard time wearing pat's ff once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    yup true... but the reason for my hesitation for the FF is coz i alrdy have 2 helmets and i had a pretty hard time wearing pat's ff once...

    our heads are of different shape, likewise with the shape of the shell with the different brand of helmets... your head might not fit the shape of HJC helmet shell but i think you should try out other brands of helmets.

    HJC more for round headed people like me i think...
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    oh, yea... thks for the tip

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    oh, yea... thks for the tip
    np, if you are shopping for an helmet you might want to read up on this.

    http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...helmet-faq.htm

    happy shopping!
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    i bought a full face from thailand, convert back to sgd its $30 dollars. ahboy sells at $120.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    what size are your helmets? some big shell helmets will have difficulty.. mine was a M nolan flip up and agv S flip up.. but flipup shells are generally bigger.

    how did you put the helmets?
    Oh, ours are XXL & L for HJC as we need to get 1 size bigger for this brand.
    I've tried Yin-Yang method, both upright, 1 front 1 back, 1 upright 1 side, etc... also cannot. Any other method?

    Oh, how much does the Nolan flip up cost? Tot of getting a pair if budget permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    God look out for his children ;D speedy recovery pureice =D
    Thanks bro, already back to work yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    dang, now im confuse... FF, flip up, oxford bone dry riding boot, some mid cut riding boot or water proof armor jacket
    Quote Originally Posted by ahcaibiker View Post
    if you are tight on budget, i will suggest getting one item one by one. starting with the head protection 1st.

    most motorcyclists fatalities is due to injuries or severe trauma to the head.

    the reason i don trust flip-ups is cos it's not a one whole piece constructed helmet. imo, FF helmets offer the best protection.
    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    yup true... but the reason for my hesitation for the FF is coz i alrdy have 2 helmets and i had a pretty hard time wearing pat's ff once...
    I fully agree with ahcai that you shud get the most important one 1st, which is the FF. Think the last time you din put it on correctly which can be rather painful (virgin mah!) and need a little of getting use too. Maybe you try with a proper balaclava or buff to tuck in your ears for the size at the shop. And if the HJC dun fit comfortably, den go for other brands bro. But in anycase, please get a FF asap! Ride safe bros!
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    hmm... okok, u still got balance for "max" tubes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    hmm... okok, u still got balance for "max" tubes?
    Whahaha, bo liao! Someone mentioned that 77th Street also selling around $10/pc, you wanna try there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Oh, ours are XXL & L for HJC as we need to get 1 size bigger for this brand.
    I've tried Yin-Yang method, both upright, 1 front 1 back, 1 upright 1 side, etc... also cannot. Any other method?

    Oh, how much does the Nolan flip up cost? Tot of getting a pair if budget permits.
    hmm.. XXL and L shells could be a bit too big for your box to 'swallow'.. you try putting 1 upright, 1 lying with the front pointing towards the lock of the box. try both helmets at the different position. all else fails, get a bigger box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonforce View Post
    hmm.. XXL and L shells could be a bit too big for your box to 'swallow'.. you try putting 1 upright, 1 lying with the front pointing towards the lock of the box. try both helmets at the different position. all else fails, get a bigger box.
    Yup, I'd tried that too but fail lah. Anyway bo bian but to either lock with bike chain or carry it around. Thanks bro! Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    hmm... okok, u still got balance for "max" tubes?
    haha!!!! max tube!!!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckoonyin View Post
    haha!!!! max tube!!!
    Hahaha, you got it too!!! Hehehe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    dang, now im confuse... FF, flip up, oxford bone dry riding boot, some mid cut riding boot or water proof armor jacket
    helmet first.. then jacket 2nd.. then the boots... i now looking for highwayboot/ classic boots...

    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Thanks bro, already back to work yesterday
    huat lahz!!! good good good ;DD

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    Whahaha, bo liao! Someone mentioned that 77th Street also selling around $10/pc, you wanna try there?
    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Hahaha, you got it too!!! Hehehe....
    yup yup... i got my buff from 77 street... nicer i felt.. ;-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    helmet first.. then jacket 2nd.. then the boots... i now looking for highwayboot/ classic boots...
    bro, i noticed you do wear a jacket but it's those normal leather jacket w/o any armour... those wont protect you from impact...

    i will suggest investing in proper armoured riding jacket...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahcaibiker View Post
    bro, i noticed you do wear a jacket but it's those normal leather jacket w/o any armour... those wont protect you from impact...

    i will suggest investing in proper armoured riding jacket...
    its ok... you don't have to rub that in... at least he is wearing something... right...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VidaK View Post
    its ok... you don't have to rub that in... at least he is wearing something... right...?
    lol... i don see how you came to the conclusion of me rubbing it in... it is just a well intended advice on my part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahcaibiker View Post
    lol... i don see how you came to the conclusion of me rubbing it in... it is just a well intended advice on my part...
    just in case he interpret that differently from you... but of course we know your intent is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahcaibiker View Post
    bro, i noticed you do wear a jacket but it's those normal leather jacket w/o any armour... those wont protect you from impact...

    i will suggest investing in proper armoured riding jacket...
    perhaps u would like to consider an airbag jacket by motoair?

    Mesh jacket with armoured elbow and shoulder pads. THe back, front and your neck is protected by the air bag.

    Biggest plus point, it can be folded up and put in your side box and can get 1 for less than $200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckoonyin View Post
    perhaps u would like to consider an airbag jacket by motoair?

    Mesh jacket with armoured elbow and shoulder pads. THe back, front and your neck is protected by the air bag.

    Biggest plus point, it can be folded up and put in your side box and can get 1 for less than $200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    leather jacket will protect u too....better than t shirts anytime...
    yes, it will protect against abrasions and sliding across the tarmac. but it wont protect against impact with blunt objects like kerbs or other debris on the road.

    imagine your elbow hitting hard against a hard blunt object with just a leather jacket... that will be a big ouch!

    proper armoured riding jackets has either hard or soft armour, on the back, shoulder area and the elbow area.

    some people prefer hard armour over soft armour and vice versa...
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    leather jacket is wad i intended to get too, its in between armor jacket and casual jacket... no body wears a armor jacket walking ard in shopping malls do they? it will be great if it's water proof too...

     

     
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    leather jacket dun comes with waterproff dude..... there's alot of nice leather jacket out there ;D


    Think i saw one in LAB few days back.. $12x++
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    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    yes it is waterproof..for walking pace only...
    thats water resistance.. not proof ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Yup, I'd tried that too but fail lah. Anyway bo bian but to either lock with bike chain or carry it around. Thanks bro! Cheers!
    Hi, you could try putting it this way: place the 2 ff helmet opening cupping each other and facing the same direction, (they should now look like a heart shape from the top view). Place them into the rear box with the sharp of the heart shape pointing towards the front of the bike. Tilt the chin of both helmet slightly upwards until you can fit them snugly into the box. The cover should close nicely on them. I fit 2 ff into my box like this. Hopes it works for you.


    On the issue with jackets, I just got discharged from the hospital for an accident on my phantom. Flew like superman, landed rolling on my right side. Not wearing any gear at that point. Irony is, I just bought a nice armour mesh jacket with CE protection. Thought it was going to be a short trip so didn't bother. Arm, knee, shoulder, hip, all road rash. Some part got scrape so deep it left depression in the flesh. My head (full face helmeted) struck the ground like a basket ball. My short glove, non knuckle type, big gapping hole in the palm.

    Short trips only? Leather jacket? Some protection better than no protection?

    Not worth it...

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    yeah!! thats why ladies!! wear more cloth when riding ;DD

    Just saw a sexy lady riding R1 earlier on the road... wearing super tight shorts + spaggi top..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    yeah!! thats why ladies!! wear more cloth when riding ;DD

    Just saw a sexy lady riding R1 earlier on the road... wearing super tight shorts + spaggi top..
    be it ladies or guys or those special in-betweens, my advice is to dress for the fall not for the ride.

    if moola isnt an issue for me, i definitely go for the best the market has to offer.

    this is touch wood, the r1 sexy lady wont be sexy anymore if she slid across the tarmac resulting in horrible road rash... and the resulting scar? probably for life...
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    i ride small bike.. also wear FF. last time i wear FF cause it looks nice.. now im quite used to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayc View Post
    Hi, you could try putting it this way: place the 2 ff helmet opening cupping each other and facing the same direction, (they should now look like a heart shape from the top view). Place them into the rear box with the sharp of the heart shape pointing towards the front of the bike. Tilt the chin of both helmet slightly upwards until you can fit them snugly into the box. The cover should close nicely on them. I fit 2 ff into my box like this. Hopes it works for you.


    On the issue with jackets, I just got discharged from the hospital for an accident on my phantom. Flew like superman, landed rolling on my right side. Not wearing any gear at that point. Irony is, I just bought a nice armour mesh jacket with CE protection. Thought it was going to be a short trip so didn't bother. Arm, knee, shoulder, hip, all road rash. Some part got scrape so deep it left depression in the flesh. My head (full face helmeted) struck the ground like a basket ball. My short glove, non knuckle type, big gapping hole in the palm.

    Short trips only? Leather jacket? Some protection better than no protection?

    Not worth it...
    Hope u recover quickly.

    Guess it's another lesson on why protective gears are impt and Murphy's Law is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtzx View Post
    yeah!! thats why ladies!! wear more cloth when riding ;DD

    Just saw a sexy lady riding R1 earlier on the road... wearing super tight shorts + spaggi top..
    Wooo!!!! Am sure she looks good!

    And she'll go WOOOO!!!! also if anything happens too.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Darren still can't my size, hahaha....
    Yea.....Razali also wanted to get 1 but might not have size.

    But thumbs up for the jacket.

    Suddenly got the crazy idea to pull the cable to ensure the jacket is working fine leh.

    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    yeah...might as well dont ride....if wear one thousand and one protective gears..
    anyway....protection or not is individual choices..
    this is my personal opinon only..i do understand that many think other wise..
    Yea i guess it all boils down to your own perspective.

    Watever it may be, it is will be your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayc View Post
    Hi, you could try putting it this way: place the 2 ff helmet opening cupping each other and facing the same direction, (they should now look like a heart shape from the top view). Place them into the rear box with the sharp of the heart shape pointing towards the front of the bike. Tilt the chin of both helmet slightly upwards until you can fit them snugly into the box. The cover should close nicely on them. I fit 2 ff into my box like this. Hopes it works for you.


    On the issue with jackets, I just got discharged from the hospital for an accident on my phantom. Flew like superman, landed rolling on my right side. Not wearing any gear at that point. Irony is, I just bought a nice armour mesh jacket with CE protection. Thought it was going to be a short trip so didn't bother. Arm, knee, shoulder, hip, all road rash. Some part got scrape so deep it left depression in the flesh. My head (full face helmeted) struck the ground like a basket ball. My short glove, non knuckle type, big gapping hole in the palm.

    Short trips only? Leather jacket? Some protection better than no protection?

    Not worth it...
    Thanks bro, I've tried that too! 69, 77, doggie, yingyang, up up, down down, front back, also cannot, cos these HJC's helmets are pretty huge!

    Get well soon bro! That wad I keep telling friends, and myself, to put on protective gears even if it's a short trip or just down the road! Just not worth it man!
    Don't do it to others what you don't want others to do to you! God bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckoonyin View Post
    Yea.....Razali also wanted to get 1 but might not have size.

    But thumbs up for the jacket.

    Suddenly got the crazy idea to pull the cable to ensure the jacket is working fine leh.



    Yea i guess it all boils down to your own perspective.

    Watever it may be, it is will be your choice.
    Let him try out your size 1st as I think he can fit into the XL. For me, it's bcos of my fat shoulder and arm which is tight around these areas.
    Don't do it to others what you don't want others to do to you! God bless!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pureice68 View Post
    Let him try out your size 1st as I think he can fit into the XL. For me, it's bcos of my fat shoulder and arm which is tight around these areas.
    tried liao @ SGH that day......fits just nice.........but if the thing gets inflated might be sqeezing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckoonyin View Post
    tried liao @ SGH that day......fits just nice.........but if the thing gets inflated might be sqeezing him.
    Think it suppose to be liddat lor! Otherwise will be moving around after it's inflated!

    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    it sets me thinking..
    wearing all those safety gears=going for sauna ahhhhhhhhhhhh..nirvana
    Don't do it to others what you don't want others to do to you! God bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    it sets me thinking..
    wearing all those safety gears=going for sauna ahhhhhhhhhhhh..nirvana
    yea.....i got to admit.it is a tad too hot @ times......specially during mid day.

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    its better to be hot alive, than hot inside the incinerator dead... no offense but yea, ff saves lives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmjoe View Post
    its better to be hot alive, than hot inside the incinerator dead... no offense but yea, ff saves lives...
    u got a point....am sure we got friends who can attest to that on how FF saved their skins literally.

    Ultimately it is still a personal point of view. Everyone is entitled to one.

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    things change, tts y frm only class 2 become 2b 2a and 2... coz some ppl cant control big bikes den too much accident, causing the law to divide the cc into different classes... yea, its fun not to hav helmet or use small helmet, until u c a broken head with brain coming out, busted open jaw, tts wen u will tink differently.. anyway even thou i had, still using half face helmet coz ff really too ma fun for me, but i do wish to haf a ff thou

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    Quote Originally Posted by mepkoh View Post
    you dont need to ride fast and furious to have fun.....
    the freedom that comes from riding.....thats enough for me...
    thats the reason...why i dont mind riding a small bike that reads 40km/hr..on the speedo..
    any way....thats life..u cant have everything...
    anyway...boys and girls...and children of all ages dont do what i m saying.....it is just wishful thinking only...
    agree with you.. what i love is just being on my bike. enjoying the freedorm.. Not speeding at 140km/hr and stuff...
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    same, ppl ask me y get phantom... for me its not about speed... its about enjoy the ride

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    When riding on any motorbike, without fail, I put on,
    1. My fav helmet : RamIII
    2. Riding padded jacket
    3. Leather gloves
    4. Army boots . . .lol

    some of my friends thinks im crazy.. putting on so much gear. until one of them got into a bike accident...

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