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    Quote Originally Posted by papabread79 View Post
    Its just not right to evaluate those bikes on those kinda road. Not comprehensive/exhaustive enough.

    Hence not surprising to see why the results turned out that way.

    Anyway kmax, u prefer my tourer wif full set of panniers or my Phantom wif 2 rear boxes as per my siggy?


    em, i'd prefer my own ride coz it's pride and joy of starting your engine and controlling congested streets of sinkapore..

    up to individual lor... if you need 2 box and no pillion, then it's serving good to you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    up to individual lor... if you need 2 box and no pillion, then it's serving good to you..
    Im fine i guess. My numerous chais do not mind sharing seat wif me.

     

     
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    for those think stock exhaust is fugly..



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    U buying this bike ah kmax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by papabread79 View Post
    U buying this bike ah kmax?
    no sir.. just post clocking... kekeke..
    Last edited by kmax; 22-06-2010 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    no sir.. just post clocking... kekeke..
    Its ok. I can understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papabread79 View Post
    Its ok. I can understand.
    i'm quite content with TDM 900 which has same parallel twin engine with 270' firing order.

    for another 30k+ $$ on top of my TDM value..
    1. 300cc more for Engine,
    2. USD fork,
    3. wavy discs,
    4. ABS
    4. TCS

    nah, i'd rather get second bike..

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592384

    someone has taken delivery of first edition and testing the bike..










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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    i'm quite content with TDM 900 which has same parallel twin engine with 270' firing order.

    for another 30k+ $$ on top of my TDM value..
    1. 300cc more for Engine,
    2. USD fork,
    3. wavy discs,
    4. ABS
    4. TCS

    nah, i'd rather get second bike..
    Different ppl different preferences.

    Paying $30K more to a Vios doesnt make it a Civic either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    i'm quite content with TDM 900 which has same parallel twin engine with 270' firing order.

    for another 30k+ $$ on top of my TDM value..
    1. 300cc more for Engine,
    2. USD fork,
    3. wavy discs,
    4. ABS
    4. TCS

    nah, i'd rather get second bike..
    Time will pass. Bike will die. Its a brand new day once again.

    I guess before the release of TDM 900, somewhere somehow someone is thinking the same way as u did.

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    yep, you are right..

    TDM 850 guys will say the same to TDM 900..

    GS 1100, GS1150 will say the same for GS 1200..

    Kawa GTR1000 will say the same for GTR1400...

    well, as i said, i am content with my machine... and enjoying photos while bound to desk at work... until i can go riding again..

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    for those think stock exhaust is fugly..



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    Most stock bike pipes are big, ugly and heavy. Wonder what are all these manufacturers are thinking......
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    Default Yamaha Tenere 1200

    Went to Hong Leong showroom today and spoke to a sales manager there.
    He said the Super Tenere is coming in in mid July and machine price is around $26K.

    Already got 3 bookings.

    IF the machine price he mentioned is true, quite cheap le.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy125 View Post
    Went to Hong Leong showroom today and spoke to a sales manager there.
    He said the Super Tenere is coming in in mid July and machine price is around $26K.

    Already got 3 bookings.

    IF the machine price he mentioned is true, quite cheap le.
    Machine Price is $26 K??? Ermm how about OTR then?

    Looi quoted about same price as BMW, but he is bringing in the one with the full set.

    If Hong Leong is bringing in cheaper than Loois (and GSA of course!), then I guess we be seeing more of Super T on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happy125 View Post
    Went to Hong Leong showroom today and spoke to a sales manager there.
    He said the Super Tenere is coming in in mid July and machine price is around $26K.

    Already got 3 bookings.

    IF the machine price he mentioned is true, quite cheap le.
    that's very good price... cheaper than UK..

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    breaking in new XTZ1200



    XTZ and DL




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    come to think of it, 4-stroke, 270 degree crank, parallel twin cylinder, DOHC 4 valves sounds like a up-graded version of our good old TDM900, doesn't it?

    if it has the qualities of TDM900, good torque, reliable, fantastic fc, smooth ect ect & only $26K, i swear i will surely have my hand on 1
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    WOW....OTR will be <$30k.
    Its a very sweet price if its true.
    Lets see mid july stocks arrived......if its true.

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...45850&page=196

    Quote Originally Posted by zuma
    The price of the S10 in Australia has been announced, $19,990. Compares favourably with the base model GS1200 @ $21,925 although I understand the Beemer comes standard with more gear. I believe Yamaha aren't bringing the more expensive First Edition model to Oz.
    but it's not first edition full accessorized... could be the same for singapore.

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    http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tst...589.php#004589

    une 26, 2010 GMT
    Super Tenere report

    Super Tenere XT1200Z personal ride review June 23 2010 Vienna, Austria by Patrick Peck

    My view of the bike is derived from my years of riding the XTZ 750 since 1990 continually to today over 250,000kms with seven personally owned Super Tenere's. With a 15 year gap between models I have plenty of time to make up my wish list and the new Super Tenere has most of them.

    It appears that Yamaha is being very subtle with their marketing as this was claimed by our salesman as the only XT1200Z demo available in all of Austria and it was first released in Istanbul mid Feb 2010. It will not actually be available for sale till mid July.

    The bike looks much heavier than it feels at speed and stationary. The salesman went into panic mode when I dropped the bike down as low as I could get it without actually touching the carpark asphalt. It came up faster and easier than I expected. Apparently the sidemounted radiator has allowed the motor to be positioned a few centimeters forward which will give better balabnce to the bike with a pillion and luggage.

    Many of my questions to the salesman were unanswered as he didn't speak English and he really seemed unaware. He said that there was a catalytic converter, but it must be hidden in the muffler. If so, leaded fuel countries would be off the list to travel.

    With 72kms on the speedo we headed out 2 up, into rush hour traffic of Vienna. Seating was the most comfortable of any bike we have ridden with plenty of room for both me and my wife. The adjustable seat was at its lowest and my feet were planted firmly on the road and my knees were not extended. My height is 183cm.

    It wasn't long before the fan came on to cool the engine down, but the heat light had not come on and there was no temp gauge, so I couldn't judge how hot the motor really was.

    The minimum walking speed without using the clutch is important for tough terrain and traffic congestion. 20kms/hr indicated was as slow as possible without clutching where the XTZ750 is 12kms/hr.

    Finally, heading out towards the open road the bike cornered onto the freeway as confidently any road bike I have ridden and accelerated as you would expect quite exhilarating from 110 horsepower, the XTZ750 has 69 hp. In fact, it had great acceleration at any speed up to our top at 168kph and would have a lot more speed up its sleeve. Redline was 7800rpm and showed 4500rpm at 145kph. Our GPS showed a 9kph over error. Vibration was as low as you will find on any big twin and the bike felt ultra stable including the 3 kms of dirt road that we found which was surprising considering it was fitted with full on road tires.

    Gears were very smooth shifting both up and down. Wind seemed to catch only the top of my helmet at all speeds and if it is of concern, there is a larger windscreen available. Braking was very strong but never really put the ABS to use for fear of being overridden by some big Merc. By the end we had 165kms on the clock and the fuel warning light was flashing!!

    In the parking lot I measured the ground clearance to the centre of the bashplate while on the sidestand: 23cm where the published stats are only 20.5cm. I spotted a BMW F800GS in the parking lot that measured 25.5cm and my 1994 XTZ750 measured 30cm with the standard rear shock. Front forks were upsidedown, very substantial and adjustable. Rear shock had an easily adjustment, Hard - Soft. Lightweight faring protectors were mounted midway up the faring but it is hard to judge how effective they will be.
    The engine has a Dry Sump Oil System that will not allow all of your oil to drop on the road should you knock a hole in the sump from a rock or other hard object.

    My wishlist from the old XTZ that are on the new bike:
    Good riding lights
    12 volt adaptor
    Tubeless tyres
    Fuel injection
    Centrestand
    Traction control (hadn't really thought of that one)
    Adjustable front and rear shocks
    Easy access oil filter
    Driveshaft
    Lightweight luggage racks
    Strong brakes
    Stainlees steel exhaust pipes
    Very comfortable rider and pillion seats
    More horsepower (110hp may be excessive for my style of riding)
    Stability at high speed
    Fuel gauge
    Six speed gearbox
    Heavy duty bashplate
    Twin spark ignition system for fuel efficiency

    Disappointments were:
    Smaller fuel tank
    19 inch front wheel
    No easy access for airfilters
    Low ground clearance
    Lefthand faring seemed loosely attatched
    High price tag at 14,750 euros

    Shortcomings are few in number and can all be changed with time.
    It would be nice if they would release an Adventure model as BMW has done with its 1200GS

    From what I have read on the Super Tenere club forums around the world, members would like a smaller version with the TDM 900 bulletproof engine, brakes and lights. Original 26 liter fuel tank of XTZ750 and suspension of the WR450. By using components already in production the retail price could be a lot lower and Yamaha profit could be higher without the risk of experimentation that comes with a totally newly invented bike. Are you listening YAMAHA??!!

    Would I buy the new Super Tenere? Yes, but it would live a much more subdued life than my XTZ750 have lived. I have been a passionate Super Tenere owner for the past 20 years because the bike has been strong enough to carry me, my wife and 12 months luggage without mishap or brake down and Yamaha has service outlets in even the most "out of the way places". As long as you carry a parts list to present to the dealer, you can get that much needed part anywhere in the world!

    My wife says I am obsessive about Super Teneres, at the moment we own four XTZ750's placed in as many cities around the world, so perhaps I am!!
    Posted by Patrick Peck at June 26, 2010 02:52 PM GMT

     

     
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    One lucky Fellow...Owns a few XTZ.Four to be exact...
    How many in Singapore can own 4 big bikes...?

    Tha gahment will be pleased to have a share of your pie.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    i'm quite content with TDM 900 which has same parallel twin engine with 270' firing order.

    for another 30k+ $$ on top of my TDM value..
    1. 300cc more for Engine,
    2. USD fork,
    3. wavy discs,
    4. ABS
    4. TCS

    nah, i'd rather get second bike..

    why settle for 2nd when you can have 3rd and fourth....


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...45850&page=196



    but it's not first edition full accessorized... could be the same for singapore.


    well....it could be true afterall for the machine price at $26k since aus selling them for $20k.

    I still too lazy to stopby HL even though that it's a stone throw away from my house.


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    well...quoting for part of the story,someone already did a modification fitting the TDM900 engine into the XTZ750 body...

    that thing lives...i think he did some other mods like using WRs fork...that lives too....except that his story and project seems to died down and soon not being heard....So i guess Yamaha is dumb afterall....


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    I should be going down tmr to look see look see
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    if come already...please tell....I also want to go down to check it out

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...45850&page=198

    Interesting test of the Super from the guys of motoblog.

    Good point in pt.2 is what he explains about the ABS:

    1-put the bike on the central stand
    2-engine on
    3-put first gear
    4-accelerate al little bit
    --> the abs warning light will blink --> the bike is detecting an excessive difference in speed between front and rear wheel spin and interprets it as possible malfunction in the abs sensor. To avoid breakdowns it simply turns off the ABS for the back wheel, so you now have the bike with usefull front ABS and usefull rear blockable wheel.

    What Idon't know is how he activates the ABS again. Maybe just turn the bike off then on and everything works again? (but you also have to repeat the process if you doesn't want the ABS)
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9zYmNmbpx4&feature=player_embedded[/yt]

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS6kFH1z840&feature=player_embedded[/yt]

    It is informational and a review.


    video1:

    He likes the stabbility and precision and specially how easy it is to change direction and the front stabbility.
    The guy is really impressed with the front of the bike. For him the best on the big-enduro class. Both rear and front suspension very good, + the fork really great. "The fork is allways precise, comfortable, stable and very, very reactive when riding hard". "It never looses his line, is precise and coherent".
    The bike allows very good lean angles and feels very good doing them with nice suspension and a solid frame.

    The brakes are also impressive, with the abs processing many data. For example, ABS does not work allways the same, it reads the speed of the bike (not only the wheels) and acts accordingly moddulating the braking (that's how I undestand it: if you are at 40kmh or 120kmh)
    He likes braking both on and off road, but specially in wet condition.


    Engine is very sweet. It doesn't care if you're on 3rd, 4th or 5th gear.


    video2:

    Explanation of the TCS modes.
    TCS is not too much intrussive. It allows enough play to control the bike.

    The position standing is perfect. Ideal to ride fast off road. Can be guided with the knees and it follows trajectories nice.
    Explanation of ABS trick.

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    aftermarket rack and box for S10.

    http://www.metalmule.com/




    As promised earlier.

    Metal Mule have made some Pannier racks and a rear rack for the S10.

    These are the original prototypes and are not powder coated or finished off properly. They are however, very well made.








     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiss29 View Post
    if come already...please tell....I also want to go down to check it out
    din manage to get there before closing time. only saw poster inside.
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    So has the bike reached our shore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafitra View Post
    So has the bike reached our shore?
    Heard u r buying one...

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...45850&page=200

    Das Motorrad has done extensive testing with all available Big Trailies:


    Bike / price__Price____Weight
    _________________(all incl)_(fueled)
    Multistrada________18295___234
    R1200GS__________17138___246
    Stelvio____________16145___285
    Tenere____________14965___267
    Adventure_________13745___238
    Tiger_____________13040___241
    Varadero__________12260___289
    Bike / weight___Price___Weight___0-100 (kg/s)
    ___________________(all incl)_(fueled)____________
    Varadero____________12260___289______3,9 (74)
    Stelvio______________16145___285______4,1 (69)
    Tenere______________14965___267______3,7 (72)
    R1200GS____________17138___246______3,7 (66)
    Tiger_______________13040___241______3,4 (70)
    Adventure___________13745___238______3,8 (62)
    Multistrada__________18295___234______3,3 (70)
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    http://www.waspworks.com/index.php?m...=index&cPath=1



    one guy from WASPWORKS bought S10 and going to do up the bike...
























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    http://www.waspworks.com/index.php?m...=index&cPath=1



    one guy from WASPWORKS bought S10 and going to do up the bike...
























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    they have weighted stock muffler at 5.5KG




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    It,s an easy job to remove the side panels in the field.
    Under the seat you will find a single Allen/hex key. This key is to remove the four quarter turn fasteners on the lower right hand side cover. You will also use the key to push in the black plastic fasteners on the inside (near the forks) of the cover before it can be removed.

    You can then remove the top part of the right hand side cover.

    And this is what it looks like....


    The removal of the right hand covers allows full access to all of the vital electrical components including all fuses and battery. I did not specifically look but I am sure the ECU is tucked away somewhere nearby.. The regulator rectifier is located on the inner face (near the forks) on this side.

    The left hand (radiator side) cover is a similar process to remove but has no quarter turns, they are all full screws and the top and bottom cover is one piece and can be removed with the same key.

    And this is what it looks like.


    With the removal of two bolts,The fuel tank on the new Super Tenere can be pivoted backward to allow access to the air filters.

    This is what it looks like with the tank pivoted back.


    Previously I showed the pictures of the side panel removal and the fuel tank pivoting.
    The fuel tank must obviously be tilted up to allow access to clean the airfilter/s which, if the bike is to be used off road with any regularity, I suggest you familiarise yourself with this procedure.

    In Australia they (Yamaha Australia) have removed the factory paper filter and replaced it with foam sock filters with spring inners to retain shape.
    I dont know why this was done or who's idea it was but I comment them.
    I much rather clean and oil foam filters than be stuck with unservicable paper ones.

    Once the fuel tanks is tilted the top of the airbox can be removed.
    Apart from the obvious 8 or 10 screws around the perimeter of the cover there is also one sneaky little screw underneath the rubber bung shown in the pic below.




    Of course you new I could not go this far without taking the airbox completely out to see what it looks like underneath.




    he pic below shows the factory paper filter and the replacement unit as delivered for Australian spec bikes.


    The intake to the airbox is just above the spark plugs (which by the way have really neat little individual coil on caps) so this will give an indication of the possible fording height.

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    LED signal lights





    pic below shows the finished wiring before the rear load rack is replaced. Note that the Yamaha LED kit comes complete with resisters in line to force the correct flasher rate.

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    AJ smsed me, that he saw XTZ1200 at HL showroom when he pass by.

    must go and see

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    AJ smsed me, that he saw XTZ1200 at HL showroom when he pass by.

    must go and see
    Arrived already?

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    yes, i have been notified that it has indeed arrived. am going to pop down on sat to take a look and it.


    1981 dt125

    "its bad but not too bad"

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    Just saw the ST12 at HL showrm.

    HL sales manager info:
    First shipment of 5 units are ALL SOLD already.
    Second shipment arriving end July.

    SGP $30,500 without Insurance.

    Additional Cost as bike is without the b/m items:
    Side Panniers
    Headlight protector cover
    Lower Engine Bash Plate.
    Crash Bar
    Fog lights

    I personally think, IMHO the ST12 is priced competitively against the Europeans Adventure Tourers.
    More options is great and is always a good thing cos it give us choices.

    Cheers & Yammy
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    i foresee more used vara, AT, vstrom to go up on used bike sale soon...

    YAMAHA ROCKS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet View Post
    Just saw the ST12 at HL showrm.

    HL sales manager info:
    First shipment of 5 units are ALL SOLD already.
    Second shipment arriving end July.

    SGP $30,500 without Insurance.

    Additional Cost as bike is without the b/m items:
    Side Panniers
    Headlight protector cover
    Lower Engine Bash Plate.
    Crash Bar
    Fog lights

    I personally think, IMHO the ST12 is priced competitively against the Europeans Adventure Tourers.
    More options is great and is always a good thing cos it give us choices.

    Cheers & Yammy
    30K OTR sounds very reasonable..

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    AJ has posted some photos from HL showroom.

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums...ostcount=12061

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmax View Post
    AJ has posted some photos from HL showroom.

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums...ostcount=12061
    Kmax,

    i help you post the pictures that AJ took to this thread for those lazy to click..


    Quote Originally Posted by AJ.. View Post

    The XTZ1200 is here...









    Priced at SGD$30.5k otr without insurance.


    And best...this bike...is Made In Japan....unlike the XT660Z which is Italy.

    All 4 already Sold...left 1 silver...next shipment is August...



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    Its priced competitively indeed.

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    If only HL can test ride...
    A man only needs so much money, the rest is just showing off

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