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    Default Sym GTS 300i/200 evo (joymax)



    I know theres alr a sym cafe thread but majority of the topics are on fighter or excel n only a little bit on gts 300i
    I start this thread for all sym gts owner to come in and share their experience on their ride.
    I myself have bought a sym gts 300i evo today and will be collecting in a few days time. Hope more ppl will contribute here and flaunt their ride.
    Let me start the ball rolling by how long will the run in period be?
    How many km for first engine oil change or service?
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    Hey just got my GTS 200 few days back too, still running-in...
    Keen to know the proper running-in for new sym oso...
    Manual says first 300km nid to change oil but at some forums, its ok to stretch to 1000km... Any oldbirds here care to share...

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Hey just got my GTS 200 few days back too, still running-in...
    Keen to know the proper running-in for new sym oso...
    Manual says first 300km nid to change oil but at some forums, its ok to stretch to 1000km... Any oldbirds here care to share...
    Follow the manual. Its essential to change at 300km because during running in, tiny metal pieces and flaks will form and circulate around your engine oil. That is not healthy as it caused more stress, wear and tear to your engine. Just imagine a metal pot of water with sands. You keep on stirring the water. What do you get eventually?

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    thanks ohayo..point noted..
    during running-in speed-wise, how shud i regulate? 70-80 km/hr, after 300km oil change, can go faster..?
    & oso to play safe just follow the manual closely for oil change-out, rite?
    Thanks

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    Good to see all the replies.. Btw for ur gts 200 have u try the top speed? Anymore gts rider here to share..
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    Btw where do u all(gts owner) go for servicing? Which wrkshp?
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    Collected my bike today, an enjoyable riding experience, a relaxing one. Prob is I bought it without IU, the shop intro a shop nearby which fixes IU. I went there and the shop say no more unit left thus I went down to vicom kaki bukit. After which I bought a IU and vicom says they dun fix for me, I have to go to wrkshop n fix it and I was like WTF.
    I went down to the shop that fixes IU again and the uncle says closin soon and say he dun fix n ask me go other shop. Its getting late and not much shops to go as well, really damn piss off.
    Anyone noe which shop help to fix IU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    Good to see all the replies.. Btw for ur gts 200 have u try the top speed? Anymore gts rider here to share..
    Hi I am another Gts200 rider, I have tried my top speed and it was 120km/h only. Anyone here got any idea that I can improve my top speed by doing any modifications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niao8899 View Post
    Hi I am another Gts200 rider, I have tried my top speed and it was 120km/h only. Anyone here got any idea that I can improve my top speed by doing any modifications?
    Actually 120km/h is okay enough for a scooter alr as it is for leisure riding. My roadwin can only go abt 110km/h n I feel it's alr ok for sg roads although at times I hope to have 10-20km/h faster.
    For my joymax 300i I have yet to try the top speed as still doin run in but I can hit 70-80km/h at ease thus confident enough for the top speed.
    One thing to add on is that after riding a street bike for near to 2 yrs, riding a maxi scooter is really relaxing n enjoyable. I feel like driving a car only without a roof overhead. The compartment is gd enough to store my things and a good thing is that it comes wif a cigar jack as well.
    Hope all who r riding sym do feel enjoyable as me
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    Have alr rectify my iu prob wif future scootering, mounted on my handlebar. Spoken to one of the mech there and was told joymax 300i is that freakin new n rare in sg, he said less than 10 ridin it in sg.

    I think this should be y thread is slow moving, hope more will contribute on their exp.
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    Besides the look, any engine diff between old GTS 200 and GTS 200 Evo?

     

     
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    Shouldnt be much of a different? I'm not sure though
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    Help...
    My SYM GTS of 2 wks old is already creating problems..
    Got the bike on 5-Jan-2011 from MAH, on 8-Jan-2011 bike unable to start, had to tow it to MAH, found that carb overflow, was told it was a factory fault..so I was like, its ok..still acceptable...

    but one week later on 17-Jan-2011, bike cannot start again, this time when i pull the brake & press the starter no sound & i noticed eventho I put the side-stand, there was no side indicator alarm on the dashboard...seems like batt fault..still at my fren,gg to arrange towing to MAH again..the towing was borned by me

    Cannot be bike is infact less than 2 wks old already giving problems, & the following week dont tell another prolem going to arise..So how? is it possible for me to change a new bike (like how toyota recalled their cars when they found out that they shipped a batcch of faulty cars)...even if still warranty & probs were solved, as a customer, I feel cheated...

    Any advice?

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    Ojo,

    Since you bought brand new, u have not much choice but claim as much as possible as it is still free and under warranty!!... Nice bike to ride but damn ex to maintain... get a specialist SYM to check your bike... like AC Motor, Future etc when warranty is over. Becareful though as they then to talk alot of KOK and BULL story. Use your common sense. Never trust them and use your warranty to the max!! Like you, I'm stuck with this bike for at least a few years....


    Me too... regretted buying the GTS200... servicing and repair is DAMN Ex... Do you know Overhauling our GTS will cost us around 2KSGD plus.... so I sent to JB and it cost RM 2K plus....and the Singapore foreman (Johorean) will start their KOK and BULL story saying need to order from Taiwan when they are buying in Malaysia... Yes, there is SYM factory in Penang. I will nvr go to Singapore Motordiam to repair my bike again unless it's an emergency.

    I just send to JB for an overhauling as my engine is going in water... The engine cant be rebored... DAMN!! Need to change the entire piston and block!

    Trying out their service and price... see got alot of difference or not if do in Singapore. I have already spend ard 3K SGD within 6 months by so called scooter specialist in singapore trying to repairing my GTS and it still gives me alot of problem.... I give up on them.... charge so high but problem not fully solved...


    This is a very nice bike to ride but be prepared to maintain it like a car.... and the resale value SUCKS big time..... It feels like maintaining a BUSA but it's 176cc bike 2B bike... DAMN REGRET!!

    I will nvr buy an SYM Bike again... that is for sure.... I be sticking back to Japanese bikes.... at least their are more realiable.
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    wah maint.. so high one.... i bought the SYM cos i read good reviews of low maint, cheap spare compare to italian n japanese... where do u go to at johor for servicing?

    Since bike still under warranty.. wat can i claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    wah maint.. so high one.... i bought the SYM cos i read good reviews of low maint, cheap spare compare to italian n japanese... where do u go to at johor for servicing?

    Since bike still under warranty.. wat can i claim?
    What can you claim depends on your warranty. I dunno what is specificed in your warranty.

    I too though taiwan bike easy to maintain and cheap spare parts... Boy, I was dead wrong... It's very very very expensive if compared to Wave, LC135, FZ150i, Nouvo etc. You dont believe me you can ask around and check the prices. Just Pray your bike dont spoilt. It's cheaper then the italian counterparts but it still too expensive. I feel like repairing my car. I should have bought a wave and 2nd hand weekend car instead.

    JB one just check under SYM Malaysia site and there alot of dealers for this bike. I going to the Taman Pelangi one. You check it out which one is more convinent for you.

    It's know fact they charge us singaporean bikes higher then local bikes but at least it's STILL CHEAPER then the so called expert scooter singaporean motordiam who hire Johoreans. WHy should we pay more, when we can go directly to Johor to a Johorean motordiam to repair using same Johorean foreman. How Ironic!!

    Good Luck and Enjoy your new ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Help...
    My SYM GTS of 2 wks old is already creating problems..
    Got the bike on 5-Jan-2011 from MAH, on 8-Jan-2011 bike unable to start, had to tow it to MAH, found that carb overflow, was told it was a factory fault..so I was like, its ok..still acceptable...

    but one week later on 17-Jan-2011, bike cannot start again, this time when i pull the brake & press the starter no sound & i noticed eventho I put the side-stand, there was no side indicator alarm on the dashboard...seems like batt fault..still at my fren,gg to arrange towing to MAH again..the towing was borned by me

    Cannot be bike is infact less than 2 wks old already giving problems, & the following week dont tell another prolem going to arise..So how? is it possible for me to change a new bike (like how toyota recalled their cars when they found out that they shipped a batcch of faulty cars)...even if still warranty & probs were solved, as a customer, I feel cheated...

    Any advice?
    Does the lemon law applies in this instance? Can CASE help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Help...
    My SYM GTS of 2 wks old is already creating problems..
    Got the bike on 5-Jan-2011 from MAH, on 8-Jan-2011 bike unable to start, had to tow it to MAH, found that carb overflow, was told it was a factory fault..so I was like, its ok..still acceptable...

    but one week later on 17-Jan-2011, bike cannot start again, this time when i pull the brake & press the starter no sound & i noticed eventho I put the side-stand, there was no side indicator alarm on the dashboard...seems like batt fault..still at my fren,gg to arrange towing to MAH again..the towing was borned by me

    Cannot be bike is infact less than 2 wks old already giving problems, & the following week dont tell another prolem going to arise..So how? is it possible for me to change a new bike (like how toyota recalled their cars when they found out that they shipped a batcch of faulty cars)...even if still warranty & probs were solved, as a customer, I feel cheated...

    Any advice?
    Does the lemon law applies in this instance? Can CASE help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolfin View Post
    Does the lemon law applies in this instance? Can CASE help?
    I have checked.... The CASE will drag I dunno how long as this can go on for years.. by that time... u might as well change bike...

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    Log in to say Hi, got my joymax 2 weeks ago. just pump up second tank clocking 32km/l.
    So far bike is comfortable and quiet still running in wll update later!

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    pump the third tank today and it clock around 30km/l for me. I was shock as joymax is a 300cc bike (to be exact abt 263.7cc). For a 2A bike I think joymax is really worth it in terms of fc. The engine is quiet and smooth, great fc. Quick acceleration ( I think ).
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    This afternoon was damn hot and when I parked my bike after reaching destination there's like a sound of a fan.
    Is it normal coz of the heat thus the fan has been activated or wad
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    This afternoon was damn hot and when I parked my bike after reaching destination there's like a sound of a fan.
    Is it normal coz of the heat thus the fan has been activated or wad
    What was indicated on the temperature gauge when the fan kicked in? Was your ride a lot of start/stop? Did the fan stopped after awhile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gld998 View Post
    What can you claim depends on your warranty. I dunno what is specificed in your warranty.

    I too though taiwan bike easy to maintain and cheap spare parts... Boy, I was dead wrong... It's very very very expensive if compared to Wave, LC135, FZ150i, Nouvo etc. You dont believe me you can ask around and check the prices. Just Pray your bike dont spoilt. It's cheaper then the italian counterparts but it still too expensive. I feel like repairing my car. I should have bought a wave and 2nd hand weekend car instead.

    JB one just check under SYM Malaysia site and there alot of dealers for this bike. I going to the Taman Pelangi one. You check it out which one is more convinent for you.

    It's know fact they charge us singaporean bikes higher then local bikes but at least it's STILL CHEAPER then the so called expert scooter singaporean motordiam who hire Johoreans. WHy should we pay more, when we can go directly to Johor to a Johorean motordiam to repair using same Johorean foreman. How Ironic!!

    Good Luck and Enjoy your new ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niao8899 View Post
    Hi I am another Gts200 rider, I have tried my top speed and it was 120km/h only. Anyone here got any idea that I can improve my top speed by doing any modifications?
    Hi you can change the CDI... power cut the bike so that ur bike can go 130..
    interested?? i got 1 spare afterstock CDI for GTS 200
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolfin View Post
    What was indicated on the temperature gauge when the fan kicked in? Was your ride a lot of start/stop? Did the fan stopped after awhile?
    I forgot the temp guage is at 2 or 3 bar... Can say so, riding through traffics, a no. of start/stop. Yes after about roughly less than a min (abt a min) the fan stop. So anyone encounter this as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmkoon View Post
    SYM = Save Your Money
    haha this bike really save your money if u know how to mantian proerly
    why the thread got 2 complains liao about the bike yet you claim its saving money ?

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    I think its really up to the individuals. I feel that once you bought a new bike and problems start to occur within 3 mnths, its really the manufacturers default. I can only say you can count yourself unlucky abt that. For motorcycles, although SYM is not a very prestigous brand like DUCATI or BMW but it is still consider one of the establish brands in bikes.

    Although SG is a pl flooded wif jap cars and bikes, but Taiwan's technology is as good. Taiwan's HTC is good as well, so much so for ACER. I've been using ACER and did not encounter much prob with it. I feel the same for their bike as well.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, SYM Joymax 300i evo has the best FC in CL 2A bike. Clockin abt 30-32km/l while running in. For this kind of FC to have such engine n speed is really nothing more to complain about. For my previous Daelim Roadwin x5, I clock a fc of 26-27.5km/l with a top speed of 110km/h. My Sym has no prob hittin 130km/h with ease and I'm confident of going 140-150km/h but still not tried yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyzz View Post
    why the thread got 2 complains liao about the bike yet you claim its saving money ?
    This bike really save money ma.. But have to maintain la..
    I like to mod that bike nice nice but waste money haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, SYM Joymax 300i evo has the best FC in CL 2A bike. Clockin abt 30-32km/l while running in. For this kind of FC to have such engine n speed is really nothing more to complain about. For my previous Daelim Roadwin x5, I clock a fc of 26-27.5km/l with a top speed of 110km/h. My Sym has no prob hittin 130km/h with ease and I'm confident of going 140-150km/h but still not tried yet.
    hmmm.. Still got kymco downtown 300, kymco Xciting 250, Suzuki burgman 400, yamaha majastic 400 and Honda silverwing 400 haven comment abt their FC

    for me I'm riding silverwing FC clock at 26-28km/l for running in
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    Sorry double post
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    Juz for my caveman knowledge, I do noe that Suzuki Burgman 400, majestic 400 and silverwing 400 fc is consider not bad for cl 2a bike but dun really hit 30km/l.

    I think that the only real challenge for joymax 300i is whether kymco xcitin or downtown 300 can match with it.

    As I say correct me if I'm wrong, this is how we bikers can share n gain exp from.
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    Hi everyone, i just bought a 2nd hand 2005year SYM GTS200(172cc) original Black in colour today. Used to ride a sports bike but change to a relax ride as i gonna get a car soon, after came back from the states, COE hit $72K(open market)! everything rise but pay never increase! Anyway, anybody can share about this bike eg; servicing, which petrol to pump( normally i pump V-power from shell) no joke but i think scooter pump shell 95/98 will do, the outlook meaning where got sell the stuff for this bike, what engine oil? dry battery which brand? any other modification? exhaust/muffler? anyone going taiwan can check out the price for the parts?(maybe i going this year or next year)

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    First of all congrats for joinin the SYM family. I juz went for first servicing today at future scootering and changed EO. Clock 800km and running strong.
    For GTS 200 accessories, you can try Future Scootering I think. There are quite a no. of stuff for the bike as shown on their site.

    Anyone went for servicing alr and any updates on their rides
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    stop-by someday to check out the shop. how much you did your servicing?
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    I bought 2 bottles of Motul EO for 54 bucks.. which breaks down to 27/bottle. It is recommended by future scootering and becoz our EO capacity is 1.2l thus the first time we need to get 2 bottles and subsequently 1 bottle for the next 5 servicing.

    The mechs also says that every 6k we need to change spark plug as well and abt 18k to change ur belt.
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    hi all, i'm selling my ex gts spares n accessories due to no more riding this bike.

    1) Unused Dr pullery hit clutch set consist of clutch, bell assy n 6 sets of springs for $200.(retail at $550)

    2) A stator unit spare consist of a rubber seal, spring n plastic cover for $30.(retail at $65)

    Interested pls sms me @98214979 to view n deal at balam rd. Thanks for viewing.
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    Upz for ur items bro, btw can ur items for eg. Pulley n stator unit be use on joymax 300i?
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    One thing to add on is dat I saw the actual kymco xciting 300 and it is quite attractive at first look. But when u look at the interior, I mean meters n the compartments below the meter, it is not as nice as joymax 300i.
    I love our blue color meters n the design of our joymax
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    One thing to add on is dat I saw the actual kymco xciting 300 and it is quite attractive at first look. But when u look at the interior, I mean meters n the compartments below the meter, it is not as nice as joymax 300i.
    I love our blue color meters n the design of our joymax
    Of coz u will love your bike no matter wat..
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    Haha dats true.. Nevertheless our blue meter is really appealing. Btw silvering is quite sleek n fierce looking as well..

    Anyone Noe of any other shops dat sell scooter stuff as well besides future scootering and hlc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    Haha dats true.. Nevertheless our blue meter is really appealing. Btw silvering is quite sleek n fierce looking as well..

    Anyone Noe of any other shops dat sell scooter stuff as well besides future scootering and hlc.
    what kind of stuff u mean?? i know a lot of shop..
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    I mean accessories, especially sym joymax 300i. N btw for ur silverwing did u change anything for eg. Footrest or stuff?
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    nope... but last time GTS200 have.. i change many thing.. haha
    but i change at future scootering.. very $$ but worth it..
    advise you don't mod better.. stay original.. you won't regret
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    Haha yah true.. Thanks for the kind advise. Btw which workshop u normally go for servicing then? Future scootering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    Upz for ur items bro, btw can ur items for eg. Pulley n stator unit be use on joymax 300i?
    Bro not sure le, but my previous bike is Sym GTS200 if joymax spare is e same as gts then should b able to use. U can check out at ur bike shop i think e mechs should kn if they svc both bikes b4.

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    So far my ride is everything original, the battery status on the meter keep lighting up when ever i accelerate is it normal? and the oil change light up today, i just bought this bike for 4days, the shop said they done a servicing for me already. = ( my bike vibration quite loud, is it normal for a 5year old bike? anything can be done to have a smooth ride?
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    My engine oil indicator was activated last night and I thought I just went for a servicing which changes my engine oil 3 days back so I think it's fine.
    My engine is getting hotter when I ride and after reading the Manuel it says dat the top left hand corner needs to be top up wif sae 10w-40 oil thus this morning I went to shell and buy a 4t oil n refill it..
    But the indicator is still on and while I ride to work, the exhaust is damn hot and I'm wondering wad the hell is wrong.

    Any advise, I'll be wrkin whole day over this weekend thus any immediate advise. I just change engine oil n the indicator light up. After I top 4t the prob still there..
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    My engine oil indicator was activated last night and I thought I just went for a servicing which changes my engine oil 3 days back so I think it's fine.
    My engine is getting hotter when I ride and after reading the Manual it says dat the top left hand corner needs to be top up wif sae 10w-40 oil thus this morning I went to shell and buy a 4t oil n refill it..
    But the indicator is still on and while I ride to work, the exhaust is damn hot and I'm wondering wad the hell went wrong.

    Any advise, I'll be wrkin whole day over this weekend thus any immediate advise. I just change engine oil n the indicator light up. After I top 4t the prob still there..
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomintheair View Post
    My engine oil indicator was activated last night and I thought I just went for a servicing which changes my engine oil 3 days back so I think it's fine.
    My engine is getting hotter when I ride and after reading the Manuel it says dat the top left hand corner needs to be top up wif sae 10w-40 oil thus this morning I went to shell and buy a 4t oil n refill it..
    But the indicator is still on and while I ride to work, the exhaust is damn hot and I'm wondering wad the hell is wrong.

    Any advise, I'll be wrkin whole day over this weekend thus any immediate advise. I just change engine oil n the indicator light up. After I top 4t the prob still there..
    sometimes you must not believe the indicator.. you have to trust yourself.. engine oil suppose to be 3k change 1 time depend on how good is the engine oil..
    last time i ride GTS200 i was using Agip engine oil.. so i every 5k change 1 time.. sometimes in between the indicator come out i just reset it..
    becoz the indicator not accruate one.. haha... many GTS rider had suffer this promble.. eg:Fuel indicator, when pump full but only 4 bar.. sometime 5 bar sometime drop to 4 bar.. up down up down.. haha
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