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    TP is not helping! And i am in a distress!! Last sat, i juz got my CBR.. was goin home, travelling along kaki bukit viaduct after servicing my bike at bikeworkz. while travelling along the bedok north road towards Kaki bukit viaduct, a car speedin very fast and tailgated me from behind. i turned around and glanced bk at him and i pick up my speed and moved into the inner lane to let that car pass, to my surprise, that car followed suit! he was just haressing me, and tailgated me even closer! at the distance of juz half a bike length at 80kmph. so i have no choice but to speed up. and i squeezed my throttle to a speed of about 120kmph managed to get away from that car at quite a safe distance, saw a TP waved at me, tot he was helping me and noticed that a car was tailgating all the way. Guess what! he summoned me for speeding and dont even care to help me and he told me the system captured me and not that driver. the tp is juz focusing on my bike and did not even take a notice about that car! I explained to him my situation and he just give me that heck care look.. i tot i saw a guardian angel on the road... my foot.. 12 demerit points! Any advise on wat should i do?
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    i'm sorry but 120km/h on a normal road? what advice do you need?

     

     
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    Just filter and let the f8cker go through next time.
    Else, we need to go 120km/hr, 140km/hr, 160km/hr all the time.
    Thats life, what can you do?

    Max speed is 90km/hr, even if you speed up to overtake, distance yourself...etc it itself is an offence already when you exceed that limit.

    Your point of view is that you speed to avoid that joker.
    TP's point of view is that you speed.
    End of story.

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    TP = Tio Pian
    Grounded... :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    TP is not helping! And i am in a distress!! Last sat, i juz got my CBR.. was goin home, travelling along kaki bukit viaduct after servicing my bike at bikeworkz. while travelling along the bedok north road towards Kaki bukit viaduct, a car speedin very fast and tailgated me from behind. i turned around and glanced bk at him and i pick up my speed and moved into the inner lane to let that car pass, to my surprise, that car followed suit! he was just haressing me, and tailgated me even closer! at the distance of juz half a bike length at 80kmph. so i have no choice but to speed up. and i squeezed my throttle to a speed of about 120kmph managed to get away from that car at quite a safe distance, saw a TP waved at me, tot he was helping me and noticed that a car was tailgating all the way. Guess what! he summoned me for speeding and dont even care to help me and he told me the system captured me and not that driver. the tp is juz focusing on my bike and did not even take a notice about that car! I explained to him my situation and he just give me that heck care look.. i tot i saw a guardian angel on the road... my foot.. 12 demerit points! Any advise on wat should i do?
    I sympathise your predicament. See what I do with my bike in my signature. If you are really sure you were forced to speed., pay the fine, accept the deductions and then STOMP it. Justice does not come with integrity everytime, sadly, it comes always with intelligence and how you work your way through the circumstances.

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    The problem is the tp used the laser gun to point at me n not the bugger behind mi. And the thing is I Have no intention to speed and I was like open the throttle to get myself away from that car cos when I slowed down behind a heavy veh he also followed me.

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    So if somebody tailgate me, wat am I gonna do? Juz let them tailgate all the way? Previously my accident happened is also because of sum1 tailgated me and when I slow down and neg a bend I got hit by that car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    So if somebody tailgate me, wat am I gonna do? Juz let them tailgate all the way? Previously my accident happened is also because of sum1 tailgated me and when I slow down and neg a bend I got hit by that car.

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    If he continued to tail gate you, slowly slow down until he pek chek and he will overtake you. Usually these kind of driver cannot take VERY slow speed one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    The problem is the tp used the laser gun to point at me n not the bugger behind mi. And the thing is I Have no intention to speed and I was like open the throttle to get myself away from that car cos when I slowed down behind a heavy veh he also followed me.

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    Write to TP telling them why you sped up. And if their replies are not favourable, you always have STOMP to turn to. Justice help those who know how to deal with the situation. Not those who are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinwei View Post
    If he continued to tail gate you, slowly slow down until he pek chek and he will overtake you. Usually these kind of driver cannot take VERY slow speed one.
    This i agree, that kuku is a speed freak, thinking he is king of the road. I access the car, if i can jiak, normally i play a little by slowing down and let him pass, after passing i end up tail gate him and push his car to the limit, hopefully until his pistons shoot off the casket!!! Only then that kuku will know his car is no match for my bike and gets humiliated, go break his bank and buy a ferrari lor, cock.

    But dont try this if his car is more powerful than your bike, just let the idiot pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    So if somebody tailgate me, wat am I gonna do? Juz let them tailgate all the way? Previously my accident happened is also because of sum1 tailgated me and when I slow down and neg a bend I got hit by that car.

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    If there is no traffic, i go to leftmost lane and go veryyyyyy slow.

    If there is traffic, i will between two cars and see whether he dare to squeeze between us or not. He is at the risk of pissing two more vehicles off.
    For me, i will find solace between cars.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    So if somebody tailgate me, wat am I gonna do? Juz let them tailgate all the way? Previously my accident happened is also because of sum1 tailgated me and when I slow down and neg a bend I got hit by that car.

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    Next time if you got time, let him pass and than follow him home lor. Idea is to scare him.

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    if there are cars ard i think you would have no prob. I guess your scenario is empty road. So ya i think slow till 20kph i think he will definately horn you and overtake you. No need to go until 120kph. Then if he rear end you then ho sei liao make sure you knw how to fall and get ready to get a brand new Honda CBR.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    TP is not helping! And i am in a distress!! Last sat, i juz got my CBR.. was goin home, travelling along kaki bukit viaduct after servicing my bike at bikeworkz. while travelling along the bedok north road towards Kaki bukit viaduct, a car speedin very fast and tailgated me from behind. i turned around and glanced bk at him and i pick up my speed and moved into the inner lane to let that car pass, to my surprise, that car followed suit! he was just haressing me, and tailgated me even closer! at the distance of juz half a bike length at 80kmph. so i have no choice but to speed up. and i squeezed my throttle to a speed of about 120kmph managed to get away from that car at quite a safe distance, saw a TP waved at me, tot he was helping me and noticed that a car was tailgating all the way. Guess what! he summoned me for speeding and dont even care to help me and he told me the system captured me and not that driver. the tp is juz focusing on my bike and did not even take a notice about that car! I explained to him my situation and he just give me that heck care look.. i tot i saw a guardian angel on the road... my foot.. 12 demerit points! Any advise on wat should i do?
    TP is correct to fine u... nobody said u can speed up to 120km/hr when someone tailgate u...
    using " oh someone tailgate me so i speed lo" its only an excuse we use when speeding isint it not?
    and like some others said, if the bugger keep tailgate u just slow down til 20km/hr.. if he bent on distrubing u then stop and follow him back home then whack him after leaving carpark lo. so u wont kanna road rage
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    TP is not helping! And i am in a distress!! Last sat, i juz got my CBR.. was goin home, travelling along kaki bukit viaduct after servicing my bike at bikeworkz. while travelling along the bedok north road towards Kaki bukit viaduct, a car speedin very fast and tailgated me from behind. i turned around and glanced bk at him and i pick up my speed and moved into the inner lane to let that car pass, to my surprise, that car followed suit! he was just haressing me, and tailgated me even closer! at the distance of juz half a bike length at 80kmph. so i have no choice but to speed up. and i squeezed my throttle to a speed of about 120kmph managed to get away from that car at quite a safe distance, saw a TP waved at me, tot he was helping me and noticed that a car was tailgating all the way. Guess what! he summoned me for speeding and dont even care to help me and he told me the system captured me and not that driver. the tp is juz focusing on my bike and did not even take a notice about that car! I explained to him my situation and he just give me that heck care look.. i tot i saw a guardian angel on the road... my foot.. 12 demerit points! Any advise on wat should i do?
    While we symphatise for you, all we can say is that the TPs....

    ... well... i got nothing good to say. So let's keep it at that.

    Next time, if you get a tailgater like that.... check the next lane clear, then you do an abrupt lane change and brake. Let him overshoot you. Then it's up to you whether you want to let him go or you can high beam the ******* all the way.

    As for your summons. Write in an appeal, stating the incident, the TP's name. Include your MP into the letter. Include the newspapers like ST, TNP, cc them all in. And link it to SBF too.
    If anyone can plead on your behalf, it's the MP. You can STOMP it too, though that place is pretty pointless 'cos it's full of idiots posting trivial bao toh kia crap anyway. But you might hear public opinion on our TP's "system". Where tailgaters can bully others into getting a ticket.

    Ultimately, if they can't protect us, it might mean that one day street justice might take over.... who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fufu View Post
    and like some others said, if the bugger keep tailgate u just slow down til 20km/hr.. if he bent on distrubing u then stop and follow him back home then whack him after leaving carpark lo. so u wont kanna road rage
    Yeah. U can follow the asswipe back.

    Then decide if you wanna directly confront him and whack. Or redecorate his car once he's away.
    Personally, the latter sounds nice. A few dents and flat tyres will look real good.

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    http://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/News...01-250226.html

    here's good example what you should do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    While we symphatise for you, all we can say is that the TPs....

    ... well... i got nothing good to say. So let's keep it at that.

    Next time, if you get a tailgater like that.... check the next lane clear, then you do an abrupt lane change and brake. Let him overshoot you. Then it's up to you whether you want to let him go or you can high beam the ******* all the way.
    This technique i like, but it really depends on your skill, how abrupt a lane change you can do, and how close you can let that bugger follow you. Becos if he's really an idiot out to disturb you, he would be so engross in tailgating, he may forgot to see beyond your bike, your abrupt lane change might cause him to slam into another vehicle's backside, if there is a vehicle infront of you!!!! But dont try this, really, leave it to the pros.

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    double post again!

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    my style, never let a tailgater pass, stay consistent in ur lane, keep a looong distance with the front vehicle. if the front brake, tap brake slowly to stop, drag ur braking distance as long as possible.

    what that guy will do: cut ur blind spot n overtake u. that's when u have to stay ur ground n aware, let him pass if he's trying to knock u, u're a bike can squeeze anytime. after he pass, horn, i say NEVER try to overtake him or tailgate him. if he block ur way, just follow him, he'll be bored n take off.

    edit: u want style or revenge for a tailgater, keep some small object handy, see a tailgater who's bullying u, pick up to max speed, throw the object, guess what happen next.
    Accident can happen anytime, anywhere.
    However ask yourself, do you want to fall at 120km/h or 60km/h?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar View Post
    This technique i like, but it really depends on your skill, how abrupt a lane change you can do, and how close you can let that bugger follow you. Becos if he's really an idiot out to disturb you, he would be so engross in tailgating, he may forgot to see beyond your bike, your abrupt lane change might cause him to slam into another vehicle's backside, if there is a vehicle infront of you!!!! But dont try this, really, leave it to the pros.
    I've done this once to a Silver Arrow cab when I was still riding my R1. Checked rear clear (we were already faster than most traffic), swung out 2 lanes, hit the brakes hard and got in behind him. But I chose not to high beam. I just exitted the expressway instead since I was already near my destination anyway.

    Anyway, if he hits the car ahead of you, so much the better. He pays for the damages.

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    In such road situation, dun let anger get the better of u.
    If the guy is persistent, let him pass by slowing down.
    If u have the time, follow him at a safe distance after he passes u. (U dunno how cock the driver is...)
    When the driver knows ur following him, he goes thru all the mind games.
    Never confront the person and/or use physical means as Road Rage is a high price to pay.
    The mind games can torture the fellow for quite some time.
    If the driver is female.... LOL... Just laugh it for cos she is just one of those 'generic' dumbass drivers.
    Ladies in the forum, notice I use the term Generic.

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    What i did previously was i drop my speed from 90km/h till eventually till 30km/h and he finally pass me. As u can see there are moron everywhere just to tail gate u but too bad i am one too .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar View Post
    This technique i like, but it really depends on your skill, how abrupt a lane change you can do, and how close you can let that bugger follow you. Becos if he's really an idiot out to disturb you, he would be so engross in tailgating, he may forgot to see beyond your bike, your abrupt lane change might cause him to slam into another vehicle's backside, if there is a vehicle infront of you!!!! But dont try this, really, leave it to the pros.
    it's unlikely he'll slam, unless u tail ur front vehicle n he tail u. then if ur front jam brake, ur reaction fast enough to lane change, he might hit ur front. but then if u're the jam of the sandwitch, u're already in trouble.
    Accident can happen anytime, anywhere.
    However ask yourself, do you want to fall at 120km/h or 60km/h?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauhs8 View Post
    What i did previously was i drop my speed from 90km/h till eventually till 30km/h and he finally pass me. As u can see there are moron everywhere just to tail gate u but too bad i am one too .
    Yes bro tis is wat I did I went behind a van n slow down. Til about 40 but he tailgated me. And the day tis incident hapen I juz actually bought this bike and rode it for less than 15min as I just collected tis bike for the ex owner.

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    Aniwae thx people. I had juz install a camera hidden juz below my num plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    Aniwae thx people. I had juz install a camera hidden juz below my num plate.

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    Where u did the installation? Weather proof type? Price?

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    Bedok north rd is 70 i think?? Wen i ge tailgated.. I ride slower. He will surely change lane sooner or later..

    120kph.. Tats fast for u to pick up to tat speed. I tink d tp aim d laser at u because he saw u going at tat speedab i guess ur bike shuld be roaring thus the attention u got from him
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    Where u did the installation? Weather proof type? Price?
    Ya weather and shock proof. About 350 lik tat. Brand gopro. I diy the bracket n install it myself. Quite good.. lik gp camera.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pyro13 View Post
    Bedok north rd is 70 i think?? Wen i ge tailgated.. I ride slower. He will surely change lane sooner or later..

    120kph.. Tats fast for u to pick up to tat speed. I tink d tp aim d laser at u because he saw u going at tat speedab i guess ur bike shuld be roaring thus the attention u got from him
    I tink u r rite bro.. my bike sound freakin thunderous tat day as the bike gt no muffler as the previous owner lost it and I went down to motoworld to order my muffler. I slowed down go wen he tailgated me at bedok north bt he freakin tailgating me all the way til kaki bukit. I even gv him a veri black n fk up face wen I turned behind to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaofire View Post
    Ya weather and shock proof. About 350 lik tat. Brand gopro. I diy the bracket n install it myself. Quite good.. lik gp camera.
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    Normal road speed limit is 50km/h, unless otherwise stated. Not 70 km/h.

    http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publis...ed_limits.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS View Post
    Great!! GOPRO is a wonderful brand. Please post the videos online like I do! Support my video thread on SBF and Youtube!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiq View Post
    Normal road speed limit is 50km/h, unless otherwise stated. Not 70 km/h.

    http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publis...ed_limits.html
    correction, 60km/h.

    the 50km/h was like years ago's story.

    Accident can happen anytime, anywhere.
    However ask yourself, do you want to fall at 120km/h or 60km/h?

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    I also tot it's 60km/h at first until I read on onemotoring. I can't find any official source saying it's 60.

    From http://www.spf.gov.sg/abtspf/tp/tpspeedreview05.pdf it still says some are still 50.

    Anyway the picture showing "60" is already something strange - if normal is already 60, what for the road sign?

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    Well, what can I say?

    You could go to the newspapers, but at the end of the day, its your ride, and you are the rider.

    Did you think that maybe the fellow who tailgated you was trying to play with you? In such cases as this, its best to not give him the attention he craves.

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    Speed limit is 50km/h, Unless its specifically stated. Inside BTT, RTT and FTT.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaiq View Post
    Anyway the picture showing "60" is already something strange - if normal is already 60, what for the road sign?
    Exactly. If you see normal road, they normally don't put. But if they put 60km/h, then it is 60km/h. The only time i see 50km/h is when you from express way wanna enter those exits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthur_chan View Post
    correction, 60km/h.

    the 50km/h was like years ago's story.

    You sure ALL normal roads are 60kph and no longer 50? Please dont feed misleading information in the forum by seeing few 60kph road signs and assume to be the standard for all normal roads usage. You are sharing information with the public. More importantly you will be feeding the young and experienced riders the wrong information that will defeat the soul purpose of Singapore Bikes Forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohayo View Post
    You sure ALL normal roads are 60kph and no longer 50? Please dont feed misleading information in the forum by seeing few 60kph road signs and assume to be the standard for all normal roads usage. You are sharing information with the public. More importantly you will be feeding the young and experienced riders the wrong information that will defeat the soul purpose of Singapore Bikes Forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthur_chan View Post
    my style, never let a tailgater pass, stay consistent in ur lane, keep a looong distance with the front vehicle. if the front brake, tap brake slowly to stop, drag ur braking distance as long as possible.

    what that guy will do: cut ur blind spot n overtake u. that's when u have to stay ur ground n aware, let him pass if he's trying to knock u, u're a bike can squeeze anytime. after he pass, horn, i say NEVER try to overtake him or tailgate him. if he block ur way, just follow him, he'll be bored n take off.

    edit: u want style or revenge for a tailgater, keep some small object handy, see a tailgater who's bullying u, pick up to max speed, throw the object, guess what happen next.
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    why not try and appeal?
    Never know what might happen

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    you are really unlucky bro..you might want to try and appeal by writing in or emailing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohayo View Post
    You sure ALL normal roads are 60kph and no longer 50? Please dont feed misleading information in the forum by seeing few 60kph road signs and assume to be the standard for all normal roads usage. You are sharing information with the public. More importantly you will be feeding the young and experienced riders the wrong information that will defeat the soul purpose of Singapore Bikes Forum
    i appologize for the mislead, i had saw the news some time back that there was a review on all road, initially was like 20% then 40%, and last heard 70-80% of roads had their limit up by 10km/h. i never follow the news and tot all was at least 60km/h now.

    since the review, most main roads r 60km/h now. if u notice, most roads were marked, even the 50km/h. 50km/h sign do appear on normal roads also, not limited to expressway exit.

    the purpose of forums is for discussion, if wrong info is given, another ppl correct, we learn. pls dont say only correct/accurate info can be posted, that will impare ppl from posting n really defeat the purpose of SBF. like what's stated "u want to learn here or pay tution fee to uncle sammy".
    Accident can happen anytime, anywhere.
    However ask yourself, do you want to fall at 120km/h or 60km/h?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohayo View Post
    You sure ALL normal roads are 60kph and no longer 50? Please dont feed misleading information in the forum by seeing few 60kph road signs and assume to be the standard for all normal roads usage. You are sharing information with the public. More importantly you will be feeding the young and experienced riders the wrong information that will defeat the soul purpose of Singapore Bikes Forum


    u r correct. not all roads is 60km/hr, not all is 50km/hrs. to be safe dont speed at all. dont use excuses that u r late, this and that.

    the only reply u will get from the tp is- u can appeal when u receive the summon.

    so dont speed at all.
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    Hi Bro

    Sorry to hear that, go and see your MP explain to MP what happened.
    Normally TP will wavied traffic offence , I went for double white lines and parking offences.
    MP will help but the traffic offence depends on the traffic violations commander decision.

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    No point pple tailgate u n u speed up cos it is not save to speed up. If car tailgate u just slow down will do. If they hit into u more beat claim them !!!
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    I think case closed long ago lol.


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    good thing it's just summon & 12 points:

    i kana hit from behind by speeding merc:
    guess what TP don't even care to investigate say it's not his fault!
    i have to bear pain of fratured leg, bruised butt, thighs.

    & yes TP don't give a **** for u or your safety or whatever reckless driver.

    what i do when on epressway if a car tailgates me i change lane & "hide" behind or infront of a slower vehicle.

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