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    Oh, definitely, opinions are always good, gets one thinking.

    Though, not of the variety whereby one wishes others good luck for not heeding their cautions. Pointed

    Aye, it has always been the case of user beware. Same goes for 2T. All personal experience.
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    Anyway, just curious. For your valve stems, did they exhibit any stickiness/gumminess? Any signs of gunk/build up where they enter the manifold? or above the valve head? specifically on the intake valve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleng View Post
    Anyway, just curious. For your valve stems, did they exhibit any stickiness/gumminess? Any signs of gunk/build up where they enter the manifold? or above the valve head? specifically on the intake valve.
    nope , nothing unusual it was quite clean, my mech was quite please as well. as you can see from the pic , the cleaner valve is the intake, almost as the day it was service , the carbon built up on the exhaust valve is nominal
    again the carbon is easy to remove

    the 5ml to the litre does not adversely effect the 4 stroke system , but it does improve the ride considerablely


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleng View Post
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    Since those who try 2T in their petrol should not use it, because manufacturers never recommend.
    Perhaps those who have had "good luck" with the 2T can use it on their chains instead? Oh wait, better not, because manufacturer never recommend right? I mean, since when did manufacturer recommend using 2stroke oil as chain lube?
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    nice... consider the internal is from 5ml per litre of usage, most of us is only using 2ml per litre.

    anyway, for consideration is to get 2T oil that is JASO FD rated. it have a lower ash content limit and higher detergency requirement. some JASO FC rated oil which also carried ISO-L-EGD will do as well. JASO FD and ISO-L-EGD test actually have the same requirment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isopropyl View Post
    nice... consider the internal is from 5ml per litre of usage, most of us is only using 2ml per litre.

    anyway, for consideration is to get 2T oil that is JASO FD rated. it have a lower ash content limit and higher detergency requirement. some JASO FC rated oil which also carried ISO-L-EGD will do as well. JASO FD and ISO-L-EGD test actually have the same requirment.
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    I just added a capful of normal 2t that I have left over, poured it in. ..didn't feel any major difference....yet. ..
    My tank is any 12litres I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaMBiNo View Post
    I just added a capful of normal 2t that I have left over, poured it in. ..didn't feel any major difference....yet. ..
    My tank is any 12litres I think
    one cup is about 10-15ml? for 12litres you need about 24ml. try about one and a half cup.

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    Nvm next round I add more La.. . Haha

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    can this apply on S4?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jianlong View Post
    can this apply on S4?
    actually you are the best person to answer that!

    iknow of some old steed , kups , scramie and 1 veri old super 4 rider who have done it, and still doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaMBiNo View Post
    I just added a capful of normal 2t that I have left over, poured it in. ..didn't feel any major difference....yet. ..
    My tank is any 12litres I think
    After a few tanks, observe if it achieves quieter cruising and slightly better fuel saving.

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    Will this have any effect for those who are currently using Broquet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade41 View Post
    Will this have any effect for those who are currently using Broquet?
    no info on that, u want to try?


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    Yar.. Does anybody tried wif broquet on? Im curious too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade41 View Post
    Will this have any effect for those who are currently using Broquet?
    Quote Originally Posted by ridzman87 View Post
    Yar.. Does anybody tried wif broquet on? Im curious too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridzman87 View Post
    Yar.. Does anybody tried wif broquet on? Im curious too..

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    i have the broquet. it does nothing for me. $59 paper weight in my tank

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    My bike since last time add 2t till now. No problem leh.. no foul plugs. One kick can start. engine smoother. exhaust no excessive carbon. Bottomline is: its a cheap and effective fuel additive. Its designed to be burnt and rather cleanly if you dont overdose. alot of money and research have been gone into them for being able to lubricate and burnt cleaner over the years.

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    Bumps for awareness.
    Reccomended for carb engines at a ratio of 2ml of 2t per 1L of petrol.
    Go for FD rated 2t!
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    almost 2 year old thread!
    interesting discussion though. read thru the first few pages and the last few as well.

    a little bit of background from my own experience with dealing with mr ezzyoiler,

    engaged ezzyoiler to install his DIY oiler on my bike a few years back as i was riding a work horse and had very little time to upkeep my bike and i felt that his oiler would benefit me.
    well it did and til now i am very thankful for his help and knowledge.
    currently i do not use his oiler anymore due to new bike and haven had the time to visit him for installation.

    ezzy oiler is a very pleasent senior rider and if you havent had the pleasure of meeting him yet, then please try not to see him in a bad light if u disagree with his post.
    I know he is very passionate about motorcycles and riding and thats why he wishes for people to not take risk with their rides as if there are any f-ups, the worst case scenario might cost someone's life.

    the whole ezzyoiler business thing is not his source of income, rather a hobby as he is already comfortably retired so do not make the mistake of thinking he is trying his best to hardsell people to earn a living. he is merely passionate about his hobby and feels commercial products like scott-oiler are way too overpriced, and his own DIY version provides riders with a more affordable alternative.

    regarding the whole 2T in petrol tank thing, shall be trying it out in small amounts for a one time only experience and shall post my experience once done. will most likely not do it again as i am merely curious and do not see the need of taking a long term risk just to achieve a better ride. if really die die need better ride then upgrade lor
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    double post!
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    anyone done this on a 4 stroke phantom and what brand of oil to buy? tomorrow maybe go buy.

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    Donhxw, most part of your post has nothing to do with add 2T into fuel of 4 Stroke engine.

    BTW Ezzy oil is easy to diy... i did mine for my old SV650 for 5dora (max). Very simple manual gravity feed system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ber View Post
    anyone done this on a 4 stroke phantom and what brand of oil to buy? tomorrow maybe go buy.
    Any brand except the one that smells like strawberry , vanilla still ok , btw my dr 200 still on 2t
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limsteel View Post
    Donhxw, most part of your post has nothing to do with add 2T into fuel of 4 Stroke engine.
    i understand that, however i felt the need to show abit of support for ezyoiler, not that i think he's right, but because any new forum user might get the wrong idea about him if just forming an impression from his posts alone. i feel ezzyoiler has contributed to the local riding scene in someway or another, and he is senior in terms of age so its just abit of "show of respect" on my part

    nontheless your right and i stick to the topic

    and thx for the DIY tip! shall tinker with my chain soon.

    and in regards to topic, have yet to try the 2T addition to fuel tank, anyone has any idea if an EFI bike will suffer in anyway from adding 2T into tank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoPuzzy1968 View Post
    Any brand except the one that smells like strawberry , vanilla still ok , btw my dr 200 still on 2t

    thank you. Will try the 2T after using the redline fuel system cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte77 View Post
    The recommended ratio is no more than 1:500, i.e. 2ml 2T per L petrol
    30:1 or 40:1 ratio are meant for 2T bikes, not for 4T bike.
    If you put too much, either u may find it slightly harder to start the bike at next morning, or the engine get hotter when cruising.
    Though so far, I have no problem to start the bike in the morning in one crank only.

    My wife asked why the exhaust pipe getting hotter recently.
    It is because 2T oil results in better combustion and higher temp I guess.
    I can't live without 2T oil nowadays, getting used to the smoothness, responsiveness and quieter engine.
    '/

    "My wife asked why the exhaust pipe getting hotter recently.
    It is because 2T oil results in better combustion and higher temp I guess."


    Do you realize how ridiculous your statement sounds? Do you even know what Is the percent of pertrol already burnt during the combustion process? its very very close to 100% Better combustion can only occur if you change your air fuel ratio (more air less fuel) or you force more air into the same volume with forced induction.

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    So in conclusion for those bike with Electronic Fuel Injection, there is no need to 'experiment' with this theory right?

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    I've tried 2T and its good.
    Let me recommand another petrol additive called Redex.
    Works on the same principle as 2T (lubricate the upp cylinder)
    But doesn't leave the 'carbon residue'
    But best of all is it should increase your bike's 'cruising speed' by 5-10%
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    I m riding a scooter downtown 200. Does it help as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dashz View Post
    I m riding a scooter downtown 200. Does it help as well?
    If it is an EFI scooter , it may not help as much , it will be interesting to know how it effect the fuel injectors ,if the 2t can get thru and does not clog them. I be worried for that

    But if yours is using an old school carb, the fc should show some improvement and engine smoother
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    Does it clog up ur fuel injector or any fuel system in long run ? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxzboyz View Post
    Does it clog up ur fuel injector or any fuel system in long run ? Thanks
    Still need to verify by some adventurous soul
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoPuzzy1968 View Post
    Still need to verify by some adventurous soul
    tested and proven la. next time i pass you some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pipipapipu View Post
    tested and proven la. next time i pass you some.
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    avoid on efi.. dont know why but was always told that.

    I use naphthalene mothballs too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydher View Post
    avoid on efi.. dont know why but was always told that.

    I use naphthalene mothballs too
    Cuz of a couple things. Fuel pump could potentially get gunked. Not likely at the low concentrations, but who knows eh?

    Heat soak on the injectors. When you turn off the engine, a small amount of fuel is left at the tip of the injector. They're usually quite hot, being so close to the cylinders, volatiles evaporate, leaving behind the residue in the fuel. If that happens to be 2T, it could possibly speed up gumming of the injector heads. This could lead to bad spray patterns, etc. Of course, a good cleaning in a sonic bath will remove all that.
    Make no mistake though, heat soak will eventually affect your injectors, regardless of whether you add 2T or not. Just that with 2T, that's another source of stuff gumming up the injector nozzles, speeding up the process.

    All these are my own opinions, they may not be right, but it's food for thought if you're considering adding 2T to a FI system.

    For carb bikes, probably not that much detrimental effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachnicolour View Post
    Cuz of a couple things. Fuel pump could potentially get gunked. Not likely at the low concentrations, but who knows eh?

    Heat soak on the injectors. When you turn off the engine, a small amount of fuel is left at the tip of the injector. They're usually quite hot, being so close to the cylinders, volatiles evaporate, leaving behind the residue in the fuel. If that happens to be 2T, it could possibly speed up gumming of the injector heads. This could lead to bad spray patterns, etc. Of course, a good cleaning in a sonic bath will remove all that.
    Make no mistake though, heat soak will eventually affect your injectors, regardless of whether you add 2T or not. Just that with 2T, that's another source of stuff gumming up the injector nozzles, speeding up the process.

    All these are my own opinions, they may not be right, but it's food for thought if you're considering adding 2T to a FI system.

    For carb bikes, probably not that much detrimental effects.
    thank you for taking the time to explain!
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    I am adding 2T to my R1150GS 2ml per litre... donno whether placebo effect or not, but does feel smoother like my other X bikes F650GS and SV650S.

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    Lots of adventurous riders here. I'll stick to the manual.

     

     
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    So after all these years, may we have some review on those who have been doing it?

    Is it more economical, safer for the engine, smoother, etc?
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    Dr 200 still good to go
    Life sux..Take control ..and live it and pick yourselves up now.. die later
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    No more updates, i read starting from the first post.

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    R1150GS no sticky valves hehehe
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    Use 2t in my car for about 8 years. No issues. My ration is 1:1000 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoPuzzy1968 View Post
    Dr 200 still good to go
    another year DR 200 Still good to go!!!

    had use 1 cap to a litre
    Last edited by ChaoPuzzy1968; 25-08-2015 at 01:45 PM.
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    congratulations for those who tried..
    nobody is telling..i suppose all too busy riding on great fuel savers...

    or ..bikes afterv trying out sold..hahah
    i love my ezzyoiler
    experience the miracle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzyoiler View Post
    congratulations for those who tried..
    nobody is telling..i suppose all too busy riding on great fuel savers...

    or ..bikes afterv trying out sold..hahah
    its good to use, but not suitable for SG road & environment.

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