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    Hey all, just wanted to share with everyone how I DIY-ed my meter's burnt/melted LCD screen that some of us are having problems with on our S4s. Do note that the orange line that goes in between the clock and odometer will be gone after the fix as it is printed directly on the old polarizer. This is not intended to be a tutorial or guide, but just a general show and tell. Try practising on an old calculator if you're not confident before proceeding onto your S4's meter. Proceed at your own risk!

    Things you'll need
    To repair the LCD screen, you would need a linear LCD polarizer (available online here), a sharp pen knife and some sort cleaning solution that can remove the adhesive residue left behind by the old polarizer (I used something called Goof Off, bought from Homefix). Do make sure that your chosen cleaning solution is safe for use on glass. To remove the meter itself, I used normal home tools such as spanners, wrench, etc.

    Total spent on supplies = S$27

    Now on to the fixing:

    Remove the meter from the bike and dismantle the meter until you are left with the PCB board.



    Then, use the penknife to remove the old polarizer. Be gentle and take your time, do not rush. Apply your chosen cleaning solution (put paper towels all around the LCD screen so that none of the cleaning solution gets onto the PCB board) onto the glass substrate and use the penknife to scrape the old adhesive off. Again, be gentle and take your time. The surface has to be cleaned thoroughly before applying the new polarizer (Very important).


    After cleaning.


    After cleaning the glass substrate, take your new polarizer and place it on the glass substrate to check the orientation of the polarizer. If the the LCD screen is all black (colours will be inverted, text will be white while background will be black), rotate the polarizer 90 degrees (direction does not matter), the LCD screen should turn to normal colour. You can cut your new polarizer to size, with the same orientation, using a pair of scissors and apply it onto the glass substrate by removing the adhesive backing on the back of the polarizer. Please orientate the polarizer correctly before applying on the glass substrate Do not forget to remove the protective film on the front of the polarizer before re-assembling the meter. After reassembling the meter, this is what you get;



    Well, that's it. If anyone has anything to add, please do so. I apologise for the terrible/ lack of pictures as I do not have a digital camera with me. Also sorry for the bad English. Thanks!
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    Wow.. excellant piece of information.

    Thanks for sharing... two thumbs upz!!

     

     
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    i think just use the polarize film from a calculator it work fine, that what i did for my bike, and the calculator cost only like 5 buck .
    any way go info for all super 4 rider i think most of us have encounter this problem, and i know some shop will charge you few hundred to fix this problem
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    Yeah, actually I tried using a polarizer from an old calculator but I had a problem with getting it to stick onto the meter's LCD screen, so I just used a brand new polarizer.

    Before the fix, I went to four different bikeshops, all suggested that I changed to a new meter which cost like $500-$600! wtf!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllHailKingHenry View Post
    Yeah, actually I tried using a polarizer from an old calculator but I had a problem with getting it to stick onto the meter's LCD screen, so I just used a brand new polarizer.

    Before the fix, I went to four different bikeshops, all suggested that I changed to a new meter which cost like $500-$600! wtf!
    bike shop bullshit sia! WTF change whole meter... i change mine not long ago too. from bro tachnicolor in the cmo thread. good job there my friend ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayz View Post
    bike shop bullshit sia! WTF change whole meter... i change mine not long ago too. from bro tachnicolor in the cmo thread. good job there my friend ^^
    I agree, bro tachnicolor is the man to go for your lcd repair if you're not technically incline.

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    Yeah I also agree, if you are not confident or find it too much of a hassle in fixing the LCD screen, do get bro tachnicolor to do the fix.
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    can i check with you which size of polarizer should i get for my spec 1 ?
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    damn .... i jus send to bike shop to do repair this ... cost me 150 to settle this ...

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    Hi bros, can you help shed some light here.

    Do i have to remove the whole tank to take out the meter? or can i remove the meter by removing the 9 screws from the headlight then remove the front casing. And work on the rectifying the lcd polarizer from the bike?

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    No need to remove the fuel tank.

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    Wah great info. Bro, u buy which size ah?

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    Useful info, my lcd was also burn due to sunlight, now need ti diy liao..thks for sharing bro

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    Btw what size to order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbai View Post
    I agree, bro tachnicolor is the man to go for your lcd repair if you're not technically incline.
    Yup he is the man. The workmanship roxs! Just got mine done up last month
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    Hi, mine too was burnt out, so how can i get dis bro tachnicolor for assistance?

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    Look him up in CMO thread under
    <CMO> Speedo Backlight colour CONVERSION by Tachnicolour
    pm him from there. you won't regret.

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    To all those asking what size to get, you could get the smallest size but the online store has a minimum amount before they actually ship, USD$10 i think.
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    if u guy don wan diy can find me..... i have the lcd polarizer and i can install for u..... text me at 98711153.... spec 1,2,3 all welcome...
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    if u wan do led light do call me at 98711153(rabbit)

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    yeah. mine was done by rabbit. =) looking very good now!

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    thanks for your guide

     

     
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    good info to share with all S4

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    How about the km/hr needle? mine has broke, any idea to fix it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbit1587 View Post
    if u guy don wan diy can find me..... i have the lcd polarizer and i can install for u..... text me at 98711153.... spec 1,2,3 all welcome...
    How much u charge bro? Can pm me

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    Great thread, my left side mileage indicator totally cant see a thing, right side time slowly cant see..

    So do i look for rabbit or the tachnicolor guy?

    How much will it be?

    Thanks.

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    Interested in doing the LCD screen just text me at 98711153
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    if u wan do led light do call me at 98711153(rabbit)

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290505

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    Nice! I might do this...
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    nice informative post. i just did mine but i used the linear LCD polarizer from a calculator. so i guess my film wont stick for long cause i didnt use any adhesive glue to stick it.

    time take was 1 hour or so with the help of 2 friends.
    $$ spent was $8.
    $2 calculator
    $2 penknife from daiso.
    $4 zippo which was supposed to remove the adhesive residue left behind by the old polarizer but it didnt really work well.

    good luck to those diy-ing this. just be careful to screw back every nut u took out cause i forgotten to screw back one. lol.

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    Thks for sharing

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    bro, could anyone advise which type of adhensive glue should I use?
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    Thanks, Tachnicolour for the reply.

    I manage to use Daiso $2 calculator to repair my LCD screen on my Spec 2 speedometer.

    Took a while but the effort was worth it.

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    thanks for sharing. good information
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    Awesome post! Looks like it's DIY time when i get back! Stay tuned for update!

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    bro rabbit do u do the speedo LEDs?

    can PM me the costs?

    thanks

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    wanna say Thank you! to the threadstarter for sharing such great tips. =D

    just DIY-ed my spec 2 last night. was a bit tough cos i cant remove the gauge needles to access the LCD below the gauges. before and after images below

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    Guys, me and my friend did the same thing.. It works well.. But the contrast isnt that bright.. After some digging, we think that the back portion of the screen needs to be changed.. Anyways, it works.. But it doesn't for other bikes especially fazer. It was worth the try..

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy.uan View Post
    Guys, me and my friend did the same thing.. It works well.. But the contrast isnt that bright.. After some digging, we think that the back portion of the screen needs to be changed.. Anyways, it works.. But it doesn't for other bikes especially fazer. It was worth the try..
    That is correct bro! There are 2 layers to the LCD screen. If the back layer is damaged, need to change both. Normally Vtec1 faces this problem. Recommended to change both back n front layer or else it may still appear faded. For other bikes like the CBR1100XX, Gilera Runner, CBR954, Piaggio X9, FJR1300 Gen1, GSXRk1/2/3 models, have to change the back film as well. Do feel free to contact me if such services are required.

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    well, im still finding for the back film.. its harder to get then the front ones as i think the back ones are reflective.. anyways, now the only thing we need to do is find replacements for cracked screen or better if can replace the whole lcd unit..

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    Bro,

    Can we do a step by Step guide to benefits all the forummers who rode cb400 here !!!

    Thanks a lot bros.

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    Bro,
    is it possible to explain how to take out the meter, cause i only manage to find 4 screw instead of 9 screw ?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by counterstrike View Post
    Bro,
    is it possible to explain how to take out the meter, cause i only manage to find 4 screw instead of 9 screw ?

    Thanks
    Well, to take out the meter, we have to start by taking out the headlights.. Just below the meter, you can see it connected to the handlebar brackets(im not sure what its called) its connected by 2 screws.. one on each side.. After removing the screws, your meter could be taken out.. Remember to disconnect the meter.. once you remove the meter, the rest is like taking apart a calculator..

    Its best if the instructions is pictorial.. It'll will be easier..

    Anyways, like everything to do with automotive, do at your own risks..

    I will try upload instructions with pictures when i have the time..
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    Why go to workshop when DIY is easy..?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by counterstrike View Post
    Bro,
    is it possible to explain how to take out the meter, cause i only manage to find 4 screw instead of 9 screw ?

    Thanks
    Well, to take out the meter, we have to start by taking out the headlights.. Just below the meter, you can see it connected to the handlebar brackets(im not sure what its called) its connected by 2 screws.. one on each side.. After removing the screws, your meter could be taken out.. Remember to disconnect the meter.. once you remove the meter, the rest is like taking apart a calculator..

    Its best if the instructions is pictorial.. It'll will be easier..

    Anyways, like everything to do with automotive, do at your own risks..

    I will try upload instructions with pictures when i have the time..
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    Why go to workshop when DIY is easy..?

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    Hi guys and gals,

    for the LCD Screen fix, it's pretty easy below are the steps and take approximately an hour or less, as this being my first time dismantling the meter (maybe you can do it in lesser time)

    1) unscrew the headlight (there is two nuts on the side of the headlight think is 12mm screws)
    2) unscrew the 02 nuts below the meter (there is 02 nuts below the meter think is 10mm screw)
    3) using the allen key unscrew the top nuts supporting the meter (i'm not sure whether this is necessary but by doing so, it enable you to tilt the meter casing for easy removal)
    4) after the 3rd steps, unscrew the centre screw, which is holding the meter casing by using the + screw driver, follow by the left and right meter casing.
    5) upon reaching this steps, you should have remove all the meter casing, which you should see a white pcb board with about 8 screws
    6) Start by unscrewing the 4 screws in the left and right meter in the pcb board, after this, there is two additional screw just below the pcb board which you need to unscrews
    7) once you have remove all the 6 screws you should be able to take out the top casing of the meter, you should be able to see your burned polarised film on the lcd panel.
    8) before reaching the lcd panel there is one small + screw that you need to take out, it's the fuel indicator panel, just unscrew the fuel indicator panel and you will be able to reach the LCD panel
    9) slowly using the adhesive cleaner (i use WD40) and a pen knife to take out the burned polarised film (but before this you need to put kitchen towel approximely 02 pieces will do around the corner to prevent the wd40 for flowing inside the PCB board), once you have cleaned the lcd panel take the new piece of polarised film that you have taken out from the Caculator to slowly measure it to the approximate size and paste it on the lcd panel.
    10) congrat you have save yourself a minimum of $80 to $150 on the fixing of the burned meter, and since you have opened up the meter may as well put 02 led strips on the meter to replace the meter bulb for that blink blink effect.

    Hope this helps, and for any guru who may want to add on anything kindly do so, as i may have left out something.

    Thank you Guys and Gals, ride safe and god bless everyone....

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    My apologize... Double post

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    Counterstrike: Good job on the instructions.
    2008-Current : Kawasaki Kr150 (Share with my brother) SCRAPPED
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    Surprisingly, all these bikes still have my name in the insurance. No money to upgrade anymore.

    Why go to workshop when DIY is easy..?

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    Thanks bro izzy.uan,

    i should thanks you instead as you are the one who give me the instructions on how to dismantle the meter, i hope every riders will benefits from this webby as this is the best place for us to pit together what we know and help fellow riders, at the end of the days our ultimate aim is to save money instead of letting the bike shop earned.


    Thank you Bros and SISs.

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    Thanks bro izzy.uan,

    i should thanks you instead as you are the one who give me the instructions on how to dismantle the meter, i hope every riders will benefits from this webby as this is the best place for us to pit together what we know and help fellow riders, at the end of the days our ultimate aim is to save money instead of letting the bike shop earned.


    Thank you Bros and SISs.

    Ride Safe

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    Counterstrike:
    2008-Current : Kawasaki Kr150 (Share with my brother) SCRAPPED
    2010-2011 : Yamaha Spark T135 (Taken over by my neighbour)
    2011-Current : Honda Super4 Spec1 (My project bike)

    Surprisingly, all these bikes still have my name in the insurance. No money to upgrade anymore.

    Why go to workshop when DIY is easy..?

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    meter.jpgblink blink.jpgGuys and Gals,

    As attached is the LCD panel fix with an old caculator and the blue led strips which i bought on ebay for 4 bucks, the first time i see my fuel panel after i bought my spec 1 from an old uncle 3 years ago, hope can inspire you to do it, trust me you can do even better than me.

    Cheers bro
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