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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Just received a feedback from the dealer.
    Both AD3 (200cc & 300cc) is in process getting LTA's approval. Target to get the clearance and they will deliver both at the same time in April.
    Keeping my fingers cross.
    Just went down today at mah motor wanted to trade in.
    The sales guy told me Ad 200/300 won't be ready until
    End july...

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    Such disappointing news. I'm also waiting and waiting.
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    I was there last week - had a good feel of the AD200 & 300 on show - they do feel & look good. The sale guys mentioned they are seeking LTA OTR approval & prices are not fixed yet due to the pending approval.....
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    My friend who booked a AD3 got his COE on Wednesday. So he went to Mah to check when the bike can be delivered. Nobody there seems to be able to give a firm answer.
    Therefore, even end July is just a guessing date.

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    Anyone got the specs for the Ad3 200? Confirmed its 3 wheel?

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    AD3 confirmed all come with 3 wheels.
    AD3 200 cc I think is for Singapore market only. the rest of the world are launching 300 cc.
    So far, have not see any spec for 200 cc one yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    AD3 confirmed all come with 3 wheels.
    AD3 200 cc I think is for Singapore market only. the rest of the world are launching 300 cc.
    So far, have not see any spec for 200 cc one yet.
    Thank Andre for the info....looks like I have to go down to mah to take a look. Since the ad3 will be delayed, might consider taking up my cls 2A and get the 300

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    AD3 300 is rated at 29.5 hp. AD200 is 15.8hp.
    AD3 300 is almost double the hp of AD200, that's why I prefer the 300cc.

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    Given the experience of heavy bike plus low powered engine like Adiva AD150. I will steer clear of the AD200. I think AD300 might be 'adequate' only.
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    Officially watching this space for updates on AD3 availablity. Please share any news.
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    Just read an interesting article;

    "No distribution Adiva in France. Finally, Olivier Perraudin (Chairman of 1Pulsion, distributor of PGO & Adiva in France) informs us that after a recent trip to ADIVA plant for the recovery of the distribution in France, where testing a version almost 300 AD3 ultimately have been made, 1pulsion decided not to import this brand and request not to associate 1Pulsion ADIVA."

    http://www.motoservices.com/actualit...O-et-Adiva.htm

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1112 View Post
    Given the experience of heavy bike plus low powered engine like Adiva AD150. I will steer clear of the AD200. I think AD300 might be 'adequate' only.
    But looking at piaggio MP3 125.... It's seems like 200cc AD3 might be just nice. Hopefully it is. Abut lazy to go for 2A...hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_mav88 View Post
    But looking at piaggio MP3 125.... It's seems like 200cc AD3 might be just nice. Hopefully it is. Abut lazy to go for 2A...hehe
    Bro, I would really recommend you to go for the 300cc. MP3 125 is really slow if compared to the 400 or even 250.

    The 300cc I feel is better value for money.
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    Test ride a MP3 125 before. You have to ride slow and steady else the engine will go kaput....lol
    My friend's MP3 125 went for overhauled barely more then 1 year young..

    Btw, just checked the Adiva Japan website, they are launching the AD-tre (new name?) with 205.3 cc? If the same engine coming to Singapore, that means 2A is required.

    http://www.adiva.co.jp/product/tre.html

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    Are they using the same engine as the downtown 200? The downtown 200 is a detuned 205cc engine. Since the AD3 300 is using a downtown 300 engine. Possibility could be high I guess

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    Sg downtown is specially made less than 200cc not 205. Ad3 200 should be no different.
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    Probably Ben1112 is right. In this case, can check on the Downtown 200's spec.
    Unlike AD200 where the SYM logo still on the engine. I didn't see any logo on the AD3 200's engine therefore not sure what engine they're using. The sales guys at Mah can't answer neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_mav88 View Post
    Are they using the same engine as the downtown 200? The downtown 200 is a detuned 205cc engine. Since the AD3 300 is using a downtown 300 engine. Possibility could be high I guess
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Probably Ben1112 is right. In this case, can check on the Downtown 200's spec.
    Unlike AD200 where the SYM logo still on the engine. I didn't see any logo on the AD3 200's engine therefore not sure what engine they're using. The sales guys at Mah can't answer neither.
    If that is the case, Jack if you really have to know if it is really downtown200 engine you can compare closeup shots and see if the casing has the same form. Hardly likely any two manufacturer engine looks the same unless it is rip-off or licensed copy like the Honda GY6. To sum it up, if it looks like an downtown 200 engine it probably can't be anything else.
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    I saw the ad3 in mah yesterday, and it looks good.
    was told that inspection is not over yet with LTA and will be ready in 2 to 3 months.
    wanted to buy on the spot, but cannot.

    price should be 10K+ coe .

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    Was promised to delivered after CNY, then April, now June or July
    Regret sold my AD200 so early

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    Andre so you no bike to ride now?
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    Not really, I still have 3 more bikes. It would be nice to have a sheltered bike since been raining for last few days.

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    Haha, dun mind sharing what are the other 3 bikes?
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    Adiva was my daily commuter to & fro office.
    I have a Honda Phantom TA150. Basically is my spare bike. It is 2 stroke with Kick start, no worry of battery flat. I'll use it once every 1 or 2 month to ensure it is in proper running condition.

    Have a Yamaha TW200, bought it for my son but he is in NS now and only book out fortnightly, therefore, most of the time it is parking at the car park.

    The Honda Goldwing GL1800, use mostly for touring or whenever need to travel relative long distance in Singapore. Once a while, use it to meet up with other Winger for teh tarik session. Therefore, most of the time is parking at the car park too. I'll try to use it fortnightly (at least) in the weekend to maintain the battery. Already changed the flat battery twice for the past 3 years, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Adiva was my daily commuter to & fro office.
    I have a Honda Phantom TA150. Basically is my spare bike. It is 2 stroke with Kick start, no worry of battery flat. I'll use it once every 1 or 2 month to ensure it is in proper running condition.

    Have a Yamaha TW200, bought it for my son but he is in NS now and only book out fortnightly, therefore, most of the time it is parking at the car park.

    The Honda Goldwing GL1800, use mostly for touring or whenever need to travel relative long distance in Singapore. Once a while, use it to meet up with other Winger for teh tarik session. Therefore, most of the time is parking at the car park too. I'll try to use it fortnightly (at least) in the weekend to maintain the battery. Already changed the flat battery twice for the past 3 years, lol.
    Wow why not get a battery charger to keep the 3 batteries in good working condition ??
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    You means those portable type which install inside the bike?
    Mechanic did mentioned to me once but not sure how it works. Therefore, I didn't try.

    I think I read someway in the forum that you'd mentioned it before but I didn't really pay much attention to it. Probably you can give us an introduction here as well.

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    It's like what US guys like to call "battery tender" which keeps the battery topped up and in good condition. I think the battery slowly drains itself and it is when fully drained the damage is done.
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    Hi Andre,

    Mind to share with us on the AD2 that u rode ? any problems or parts issues ?

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    Was promised to delivered after CNY, then April, now June or July
    Regret sold my AD200 so early
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    I never owns other scooter before, AD 150 was my first then follow by AD 200. I bought both 2nd hand.

    Both didn't give me much problems.
    AD150; beside changed belt & roller, brake pads, tyres, the padcock was faulty once, couldn't find the OEM part, mechanic used part from other scooter.The speed sensor was faulty, therefore no display for travelling speed. Can't find the part, I just ignore it and continue rode till I scrapped it 2 years ago.
    AD200; the thermal switch faulty, changed it at Mah for less then $30. Idling speed was a bit erratic, sometime stalled at traffic light. I changed the engine oil and add some oil treatment, the issue solved. So far no other problems.

    I understand from others that Mah don't stock much parts, so far have not really encounter yet, therefore unable to comments.

    The major problem with both scooters was rust. The body frame rust easily. I opened both casing/ body panels and use rust treatment for the bolt & nuts, welded joints etc.Applied oil and grease to all moving parts regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    You means those portable type which install inside the bike?
    Mechanic did mentioned to me once but not sure how it works. Therefore, I didn't try.
    I think I read someway in the forum that you'd mentioned it before but I didn't really pay much attention to it. Probably you can give us an introduction here as well.
    It is a basic battery charger, not to be confuse with other device to be install on to vechicle like a " Battery Tender " " Battery Bug " etc etc.
    A battery charger will charge your battery & CTEK has the AC to DC & DC to DC battery charger.
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    You means an external battery charger? That means need to remove the battery?
    Troublesome lei, every time want to ride have to re-install the battery and need to reset the clock, radio stations and may be the ECU as well.
    Just to lazy to do so..lol

     

     
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    well then buy a lithium battery for your ride, cost much more but then you can be lazy ... lol
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    Maybe limbat is battery expert can advice on effectiveness of solar charger that keep the battery topped up?
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    300tkb-800.jpg


    Item: MC_D300TKB
    Reference: http://www.scooterdepot.us/trike-gas...d-d300tkb.html

    Like: With built in Storage; look more stable than the AD3
    Dislike: No Roof

    http://youtu.be/-T_-cxt6ETc?t=17s
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    Solar Panel chargers have been around for quite awhile - they do work but where can you place them on your ride ? No prefect solution mate !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marxseet View Post
    Wow cool looking..... bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by marxseet View Post
    300tkb-800.jpg


    Item: MC_D300TKB
    Reference: http://www.scooterdepot.us/trike-gas...d-d300tkb.html

    Like: With built in Storage; look more stable than the AD3
    Dislike: No Roof

    http://youtu.be/-T_-cxt6ETc?t=17s
    Im sorry but it looks like a Chinese POS to me. Can bet it will never reach our shores so no point discussing about it.
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    Hey guys, interested in getting AD200, but would need some advice from you all.

    How big is the boot space and underseat storage? Able to put 2 helmets (open face), 2 raincoats (is there a need for these with the roof?) and laptop bag?

    Is it easy to maintain? are the parts expensive? (had previously own a X9 and the parts are EXPENSIVE) And only Mah carry in their parts? which means i have to go Mah for service and repairs? It seems that AD200 are quite rare... which i find it wierd coz the design is perfect for sg climate~ rain and shine all in one day!

    And how thristy is AD200? 1litre can reach 30km?

    Really appreciate if someone can help me out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by limbat View Post
    well then buy a lithium battery for your ride, cost much more but then you can be lazy ... lol
    How much does it cost? No need to top up regularly? May be can consider..

    Quote Originally Posted by limbat View Post
    Solar Panel chargers have been around for quite awhile - they do work but where can you place them on your ride ? No prefect solution mate !!!
    I saw someone mount the solar penal on top of top box.. For Adiva, may be can mount on the roof..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1112 View Post
    Im sorry but it looks like a Chinese POS to me. Can bet it will never reach our shores so no point discussing about it.
    You're right. It is a China Can Am imitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Js003 View Post
    Hey guys, interested in getting AD200, but would need some advice from you all.

    How big is the boot space and underseat storage? Able to put 2 helmets (open face), 2 raincoats (is there a need for these with the roof?) and laptop bag?

    Is it easy to maintain? are the parts expensive? (had previously own a X9 and the parts are EXPENSIVE) And only Mah carry in their parts? which means i have to go Mah for service and repairs? It seems that AD200 are quite rare... which i find it wierd coz the design is perfect for sg climate~ rain and shine all in one day!

    And how thristy is AD200? 1litre can reach 30km?

    Really appreciate if someone can help me out!
    I think no more stock for new AD200, only 2nd hands available.
    Boot space under the seat is miserable, can't even put a half-cap. I used to store rain coats, slippers, parking coupon only.
    The rear trunk can put 2 full face helmet if not storing the roof. With roof stored in the trunk, probably can put 2 half caps only. It is big enough for lap top bag.
    Fuel consumption about 30km per liter. I usually top up 9-10 l for every 290-300 km.
    Parts wise, I'm not very sure cause I didn't changed much.
    Adiva can not sell well in Singapore cause it is expensive compare to other similar capacity scooters. It was about 11k OTR, others probably about 6-8k.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    I think no more stock for new AD200, only 2nd hands available.
    Boot space under the seat is miserable, can't even put a half-cap. I used to store rain coats, slippers, parking coupon only.
    The rear trunk can put 2 full face helmet if not storing the roof. With roof stored in the trunk, probably can put 2 half caps only. It is big enough for lap top bag.
    Fuel consumption about 30km per liter. I usually top up 9-10 l for every 290-300 km.
    Parts wise, I'm not very sure cause I didn't changed much.
    Adiva can not sell well in Singapore cause it is expensive compare to other similar capacity scooters. It was about 11k OTR, others probably about 6-8k.
    Thanks for the information! very useful.

    Yar.. i have checked with Mah and new AD200 costs easily $11k...

    2nd hand whats the market like now? for a 2011 or 2009 AD200

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    If I'm not wrong, the first AD200 is from 2008. So the price should be about 5k-9k for 2008-2012?
    Therefore, I think 2009 model should be around +- 6k.
    I heard Mah have 1 unit which less then 1 year old (may be 2011) and asking for about 8k or 8.5k. Heard the previous owner only rode for 3 months.

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    Thanks lots for the info! Might begin my search for one!

    On a side note, are 3 wheelers much better than 2 wheelers? ie AD3 vs AD200.
    Coz the machine price for both are quite similar, but AD200 would prob drop once AD3 comes out though..

    Would u recommend to get 2nd hand AD200 or just whack the AD3 200?
    never tried a 3 wheeler b4.. hahaa

    I share the concern as Ben, not sure if AD3 200 engine would be adequate or not... but lazy to take 2A also..
    would the 3 wheels give maintenance headache?

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    Mah has a few units 2nd hand AD200, you can try them. You might be surprise sometime can get a good bargain.

    My friend just dropped his MP3 for ran over a slippery road, so 3 wheeler still can drop.
    Theoretically 3 wheeler should be better road holding. I only briefly rode my friend's MP3 for a day, can't really tell the difference.

    I don't know what to recommend cos I sold my AD200 and booked a AD3.

    AD3 being a all new model, so some glitches are expected.

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    AD3 cannot squeeze between cars during slow traffic / jams leh. I rather buy an MP3 400ie and fix up a roof. Haha.

    Yeap, 3-wheeler still can fall. People who ride it tend to corner a bit steeper than a 2-wheeler. And when that happens, somehow, the geometry of the MP3 means tipping on the wheel of the corner and lifting the other wheel in a steep bank. That's how it skids.

    I'm now waiting for the Quadro 4D 500cc (using Piaggio X10 500cc engine) or the Quadro Parkour 330cc (using the X10 350 engine).

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgearalwaysrock View Post
    AD3 cannot squeeze between cars during slow traffic / jams leh. I rather buy an MP3 400ie and fix up a roof. Haha.

    Yeap, 3-wheeler still can fall. People who ride it tend to corner a bit steeper than a 2-wheeler. And when that happens, somehow, the geometry of the MP3 means tipping on the wheel of the corner and lifting the other wheel in a steep bank. That's how it skids.

    I'm now waiting for the Quadro 4D 500cc (using Piaggio X10 500cc engine) or the Quadro Parkour 330cc (using the X10 350 engine).

    4-wheel technology, can't skid. Haha.
    I can't imagine how would AD3's lane splitting ability be inferior to mp3 as their width is not much different? I have considered MP3 with aftermarket roof but the lack of wiper is difficult to live with in heavy rain as I have tried not turning on my wiper in such conditions on my previous adiva.
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    I felt after seating on the AD3 that it was seriously wide. Didn't think it had the same width of the MP3.
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    Adiva is slightly wider to comply to Europe's car regulation. Heard in Europe that they allowed riding AD3 with car license. The new MP3 LT had widen the wheel span too to comply to the same Europe code to allow to ride with car license.
    Overall width of AD3 is 10mm lesser then AD200, so I don't think there is much problem to lane splitting.

    Quadro coming to Singapore? Anyway, Quadro 4D will never pass as motorcycle in Singapore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Mah has a few units 2nd hand AD200, you can try them. You might be surprise sometime can get a good bargain.

    My friend just dropped his MP3 for ran over a slippery road, so 3 wheeler still can drop.
    Theoretically 3 wheeler should be better road holding. I only briefly rode my friend's MP3 for a day, can't really tell the difference.

    I don't know what to recommend cos I sold my AD200 and booked a AD3.

    AD3 being a all new model, so some glitches are expected.
    Thanks for all the advice! Think it will ultimately goes down to budget (always the bugger preventing all the cool things in life) Hahah!

    Too bad you let go of yr AD200 so early. I would prob make a trip to Mah and see what they have to offer if i trade in my fino.

    Would be waiting for your review once you get your AD3 ya! cheers!

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