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    Normally voltage with around 13.8-14-4v... thats a healthy range. If it drop below 12v the battery is consider weak but still able to crank and use. If the voltage is above 14.5 its over charging. Bro ray you can install a voltmeter to monitor your battery strength. It cost around $30-$50+ depending on how simply your voltmeter is. As for horn... I am currently using Hella Strongtone. Not the loudest but enough to get your attention. If you are free join us for the mega meet up on the 20th. Get to meet some of the DIY guru on that day. You might be interested in some of the mod or accessories they added to their 2 wheeler.
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    Bro bobo, thanks for the advice ... will get Taihin to fix the voltmeter & loud horns. In order to get a better acceleration from rest, should i change the variator or the weights?
    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_rider View Post
    Normally voltage with around 13.8-14-4v... thats a healthy range. If it drop below 12v the battery is consider weak but still able to crank and use. If the voltage is above 14.5 its over charging. Bro ray you can install a voltmeter to monitor your battery strength. It cost around $30-$50+ depending on how simply your voltmeter is. As for horn... I am currently using Hella Strongtone. Not the loudest but enough to get your attention. If you are free join us for the mega meet up on the 20th. Get to meet some of the DIY guru on that day. You might be interested in some of the mod or accessories they added to their 2 wheeler.

     

     
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    Since u are going to taihin they have Dr Pulley rollers. Since your bike is still new u may consider to use the stock rollers until its due for changing. According to seniors in here, lighter rollers gives u better acceleration.
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    Bro ray, how much u paid for ur bike insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    Bro ray, how much u paid for ur bike insurance?
    Bro Scooter, $289 .... 2nd party.

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    I think mine was half Urs. 3rd party.

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    Btw i might be wrong yet to be corrected:

    - Every 1000km (change engine/gear oil & clean air filter)
    - 5000km (change air filter)
    - 10,000km (change belt & roller) Do the variator required to be change as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    I think mine was half Urs. 3rd party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    Btw i might be wrong yet to be corrected:

    - Every 1000km (change engine/gear oil & clean air filter)
    - 5000km (change air filter)
    - 10,000km (change belt & roller) Do the variator required to be change as well?
    I think every 2000 to 2500km change EO
    Air filter I not too sure.
    Belt and roller I think correct.

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    Hello all....just wanted to ask if anyone did valve clearance in jb like mforce? Did they overcharge?

    Also, just realised there's oil leaking from right side engine gasket area. ANyone experienced this before? Does it just require a replacement of gaskets and seals?

    Any info will be appreciated, thanks!

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    we will try our best to reply you Questions.

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    SYM scoot meetup at Nan Wah AMK this Saturday. 6pm-10pm.

    There's also a Desaru day trip on 19 Oct organised by Mah Pte Ltd. $20 per pax inclusive of T-shirt and sumptuous lunch. Sign up at the meetup.
    Cya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    Btw i might be wrong yet to be corrected:

    - Every 1000km (change engine/gear oil & clean air filter)
    - 5000km (change air filter)
    - 10,000km (change belt & roller) Do the variator required to be change as well?
    For my own routine, i change engine oil every 3 months cos my mileage is less than 1000km a month. You can change the gear oil together as well if you want to or you can do it at alternate oil change. Anyway gear oil is just a few dollars so its to your comfort. As for the air filter its just a few screw away so you can actually open it up and blow away the dust anytime. For stock air filter usually just change it when it gets really dirty. Only aftermarket air filter can be reuse after washing. (Simota, DNA... this are 2 of the aftermarket brands). As for belt and rollers i have not change mine yet since i bought it last nov. But according to seniors the belt and rollers can last for 15000km -20000km. It also depends on your riding style and habit. Variator i don't think you need to change it unless there are really worn out. All this is base on my noob experience... Hope it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_rider View Post
    For my own routine, i change engine oil every 3 months cos my mileage is less than 1000km a month. You can change the gear oil together as well if you want to or you can do it at alternate oil change. Anyway gear oil is just a few dollars so its to your comfort. As for the air filter its just a few screw away so you can actually open it up and blow away the dust anytime. For stock air filter usually just change it when it gets really dirty. Only aftermarket air filter can be reuse after washing. (Simota, DNA... this are 2 of the aftermarket brands). As for belt and rollers i have not change mine yet since i bought it last nov. But according to seniors the belt and rollers can last for 15000km -20000km. It also depends on your riding style and habit. Variator i don't think you need to change it unless there are really worn out. All this is base on my noob experience... Hope it helps.
    Thanks mate .... very useful input

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    How much to change stock air filter? My bike mechanic didn't advice on this. Thks.

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    My GTS i change it once at $25
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    Ask u guys.. hw much for those aftermarket filter..etc simota..dna?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0401897D View Post
    Ask u guys.. hw much for those aftermarket filter..etc simota..dna?...
    Which bike u referring to? I order my DNA from motoworld for my GTS for $85.
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    what's the advantage of aftermarket against stock filter?
    Quote Originally Posted by 0401897D View Post
    Ask u guys.. hw much for those aftermarket filter..etc simota..dna?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_rider View Post
    Which bike u referring to? I order my DNA from motoworld for my GTS for $85.
    Tx broo!!!!!
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    Guys, need help here. My bike on/off switch was jam; Can't start my bike. Anyone know what is the cost to replace a new on/off key switch? Thks much.

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    No idea how much it will cost u. Why not u try to approach nan wah motor. SYM service centre.
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    my exhaust guard plate just fly off this morning
    anyone know if its needed to pass inspection ? dun really feel like getting new exhaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    Btw i might be wrong yet to be corrected:

    - Every 1000km (change engine/gear oil & clean air filter)
    - 5000km (change air filter)
    - 10,000km (change belt & roller) Do the variator required to be change as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    I think every 2000 to 2500km change EO
    Air filter I not too sure.
    Belt and roller I think correct.
    According to the SYM GTS manual, engine oil change is every 3000km. No mention when to change transmission oil or air filter.

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    A word of caution with transmission oil. Most bike shops use 80W-90 grade transmission oil for our bikes.

    IT IS WRONG.

    The manual states you have to use 85W-140. Our bikes require a much "thicker" transmission oil. After one encounter with a shop that used the wrong oil, I went to Autobacs to buy a liter of Redline gear oil ($20) and changed it myself. My ride is so much smoother. Plus likely for the transmission to last much longer!

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    I bought benzlube 20 buck . 5 litre. Hypoid type 85 - 140. Can use till foreve

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    I bought benzlube 20 buck . 5 litre. Hypoid type 85 - 140. Can use till foreve
    $20 for 5 liters! Haha....ya man, can use forever....FYI, our bikes only needs 0.1-0.15 liters per change....

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    Yup. I'm using 150 ml per change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    Yup. I'm using 150 ml per change.
    Mudai, how do you get the fluid in?

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    I'm using sauce bottle. Bought the 300 ml bottle. And pressed it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    I'm using sauce bottle. Bought the 300 ml bottle. And pressed it in.
    Good idea! I'm using a syringe but it was 0.01 liter per squeeze! Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    I bought benzlube 20 buck . 5 litre. Hypoid type 85 - 140. Can use till foreve
    Where do you buy your engine oil from?

     

     
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    Oil shop at Alexandra village

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpan View Post
    $20 for 5 liters! Haha....ya man, can use forever....FYI, our bikes only needs 0.1-0.15 liters per change....
    what about engine oil? how many ml for oil change?

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    800 ml only bro. Don't pour too much. Your engine will soaked

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    I actually saw this new model in a jap mag before i got my specIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    800 ml only bro. Don't pour too much. Your engine will soaked
    i just got myself a 2nd hand gts 200.

    the deal was done through the owner's mechanic. was asking him questions on the maintenance of the bike since it was all done by him. some issue i take note on the maintenance done by him. now i worry about the condition of the gear.

    1) he told me the bike needed 1,000 ml so i guess that the amount he used all the time.
    2) when the deal was done and i was about to leave, i asked him what type of gear oil he is using. the oil he is using is GL-4 rated at 80w90 which the bike need GL-5 at 85w140. too bad i didn't ask that earlier. now i am worry about the condition of the bike gear.

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    Different gear type need different lubricant. GL-4 is for moderate speeds and load. GL-5 is intended for higher speed . But both are Hypoid , but the manual said need 85-140

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    As long u change it regular should not be any problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    Different gear type need different lubricant. GL-4 is for moderate speeds and load. GL-5 is intended for higher speed . But both are Hypoid , but the manual said need 85-140
    I've noticed that my bike is smoother & no jerkiness when moving off after using the correct gear fluid....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    As long u change it regular should not be any problem.
    hope so. Further more the mechanic told me gear oil only need to change every 10,000 km I will change it to the correct oil ASAP.

    The viscosity different between 90 and 140 grade is more then 10 cst. That quite a big gap.
    Last edited by Isopropyl; 09-10-2014 at 06:30 AM.

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    If u want to be safe. Every 2 engine oil replacement , change the GO too. And for engine oil I go by month. Monthly always change. I'm heavy user with almost 80km/day .. so roughly change every 2000km every month.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    If u want to be safe. Every 2 engine oil replacement , change the GO too. And for engine oil I go by month. Monthly always change. I'm heavy user with almost 80km/day .. so roughly change every 2000km every month.
    thanks. will go by that. what about spark plug and air filter?

    so let me recall again.

    1) Engine oil is 800 ml
    2) gear oil is 100-150 ml

    just hope the gear is still in good condition. is the gear compartment easy to open? is it possible for me to ask him to open up to check?

    really need to meet up with you guys to learn more. haha...

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    Spark plug you don't need to change it very often. I change it every 6 month. Although it might last till another 6 month. Air filter easy to open and I use vacuum cleaner to clean it. Some of us will have an DIY session next week if u interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    Spark plug you don't need to change it very often. I change it every 6 month. Although it might last till another 6 month. Air filter easy to open and I use vacuum cleaner to clean it. Some of us will have an DIY session next week if u interested.
    that great. i will join you guys if possible. might not be possible as i am doing shift work. please let me know the place and time. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    If u want to be safe. Every 2 engine oil replacement , change the GO too. And for engine oil I go by month. Monthly always change. I'm heavy user with almost 80km/day .. so roughly change every 2000km every month.
    Would it be better to use better oil and keep for longer period instead of what you're doing? Is there long life oil for bikes?
    I've done 2 oil changed for my GTS so far, the second I opted for OWS and I like it! $26 at Unique (including spark plug) and should last me 5000km...I'm due a change soon,will continue to use OWS.

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    Oil life time is only estimation. It didn't count the high torque , over revving. Etc. Mine I'm doing DIY using motul bought at lab for 12 sgd. It's better be sure that your EO still fresh rather than keeping it there when it's already turn black. The Eo after sometime will reduce its quantity especially when the bike always on high rpm. Weekly check need to be done to check the oil level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudai View Post
    Oil life time is only estimation. It didn't count the high torque , over revving. Etc. Mine I'm doing DIY using motul bought at lab for 12 sgd. It's better be sure that your EO still fresh rather than keeping it there when it's already turn black. The Eo after sometime will reduce its quantity especially when the bike always on high rpm. Weekly check need to be done to check the oil level.
    Agreed....Where's Lab? That oil price is super cheap! I wanna buy!

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    Lim ah boy. Kelantan lane. For me. Sometime if I went down to batam. I bought motul scooter experts LE for 9sgd per bottle. 10-30w. And the denso platinum around 12 sgd. Normal NGK 4 sgd. Oil I bought it at hardware shop called ace hardware

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    Oh, Lim Ah Boy...I have Ben there...thanks.
    Is Ace Hardware the large American hardware shop in Malaysia?

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    they have it in malaysia too, but im not too sure on the EO prices there.. because i bought it from Batam.. yes at lim ahboy, on the right corner inside end.. there a stack of motul oil.. start with the cheapest one.. im using non full synthetice.. because im changing monthly no use for syntethic..

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