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    Default Ducati Hypermotard 821



    Let the discussion begins!

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    Fantastic bike! Loving it!! Wanna bring her to land of smiles!!

     

     
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    Doremi, you riding hyperstrada now?

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    Love the ride so far, but encountered a few hiccups along the way. Wonder if any of you encounter this too on the Hyper 821.

    - Engine cuts off on its own when slowing down to a stop on approaching a traffic junction on red light. So far it happened 3 times.

    - Started the bike with 'error' shown on display. 'Error' went off after awhile during warm up. Rode out onto the highway and the throttle response was sluggish (Sports mode). The sports mode felt like urban mode. Everything went back to normal after I stopped at a petrol kiosk and turn off/on the whole bike again.

    - Second encounter with the sluggish throttle response was when I pressed the ignition button too quickly before the 'ali baba' lamp went off whenever u turn on the bike. So from there I learnt that the ecu must 'load' properly before pressing the ignition to avoid sluggish response from the ecu.


    Overall, despite these minor hiccups, I still enjoy riding this bike.

    Ride safe everyone.

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    There is an update for the ECU recently. Have you done it? The European riders had the same issues. Most of them reported to have it resolved after the ECU updates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super-Sic View Post
    Doremi, you riding hyperstrada now?
    Yeah bro!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doremi View Post
    There is an update for the ECU recently. Have you done it? The European riders had the same issues. Most of them reported to have it resolved after the ECU updates
    yup...done the update already. it still happens. Clutched in to down gear upon approaching a bend, the engine died on its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doremi View Post
    There is an update for the ECU recently. Have you done it? The European riders had the same issues. Most of them reported to have it resolved after the ECU updates
    double post
    Last edited by e_gen_e; 06-10-2013 at 11:40 AM. Reason: double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by e_gen_e View Post
    yup...done the update already. it still happens. Clutched in to down gear upon approaching a bend, the engine died on its own.
    Have you try to upz the idleing? Whats ur rpm on stationary? 1400-1600??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doremi View Post
    Have you try to upz the idleing? Whats ur rpm on stationary? 1400-1600??
    yup..my idling is within that range..

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    Perhaps you can give different petrol a test. I have been using Esso 98 in Singapore

     

     
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    Send the bike back to minerva let them check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naked1 View Post
    Send the bike back to minerva let them check.
    Sent already loh. Seems like they can't do much except to reset/reflash the ecu...

    Doremi> I'm using Shell 98. So far it's been ok now.I guess cannot whack the throttle immediately after riding out from my carpark. hehehe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naked1 View Post
    Send the bike back to minerva let them check.
    I dunno why it double post on its own...
    Last edited by e_gen_e; 24-10-2013 at 12:53 AM. Reason: double post

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    U free on this sat morning?? Wanna go riding to Malaysia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doremi View Post
    U free on this sat morning?? Wanna go riding to Malaysia?

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
    Alamak, it's sat morning and I just saw this...

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    Shiok. Great ride out! In n out no jam!!!

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    Just saw this thread...just collected my HM 821 last mth =D

    Wanna check with you guys, to adjust the rear suspension rebound, when you turn the adjustment screw, does it 'click'? Mine doesnt click at all so hard to tell what setting its at. Base model HM

    TIA

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    Memorise the turns.

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    the hyperstrade side box can put in full face helmet?

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    Hi guys im buying HM 821 next month 20th may , just a quick question , im always traveling from north to east like woodland to tampanies , will HM survive daily commute ? How is the service cost like? Cos i heard they have cut some slack on the service interval and can be comparable to jap bike?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by songchen View Post
    Hi guys im buying HM 821 next month 20th may , just a quick question , im always traveling from north to east like woodland to tampanies , will HM survive daily commute ? How is the service cost like? Cos i heard they have cut some slack on the service interval and can be comparable to jap bike?
    Congrats!!! Its a real fun bike to ride =D
    No problem it will survive the daily commute. Nowadays Ducatis are more reliable than ppl think hahah

    Just for your reference, FC I'm getting roughly abt 17-18 km/L, with Termi exhaust and 14 tooth front sprocket, and it can take 95 RON without any issues. Thats what I pump in SG. On paper, supposed to be a 16L tank, but usually low fuel light comes on when there is abt 6-7 L left.

    Yes servicing intervals have gotten longer, with the first major service at 30,000 km where they will do the valve clearance check etc, as compared to the 12,000 and 24,000km intervals of the previous gen model. This should cost you around $1k or maybe less.

    Other than that, usual oil changes every 5000-6000 km. I usually buy my own oil and bring to Minerva to get it changed. So I just pay for the oil filter and labour. Minerva charges labour by the hour, cant remember exact charges, but I think its ard $60 per hr or sthg. Basic oil change probably takes ard 30 mins, and they do other simple checks and wash the bike for you. You can bring elsewhere to do, but better to do at Minerva if still under warranty.

    Did you get the base model or the SP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by songchen View Post
    Hi guys im buying HM 821 next month 20th may , just a quick question , im always traveling from north to east like woodland to tampanies , will HM survive daily commute ? How is the service cost like? Cos i heard they have cut some slack on the service interval and can be comparable to jap bike?
    Wazzup bro...
    Hows the Hyber Beast?
    Any updates after 3 mths of daily commute (if any)?

    I also getting a Hyper Beast as a daily commute. and also wondering the same thing.

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    Hi fellow HM/HS riders, been riding my Hyperstrada for a month now. The most fun bike I've ever owned. For commuting, I use touring mode which works perfectly. On wet roads, I switch to urban mode for more ABS & traction control. The bike is best when you run it above 4k rpm. Anything below, it's not happy. On expressway legal speed (90km/h), 5th gear is enough. Its not fun to cruise on the HM/HS, it's meant to be ridden hard with fast accelerations. Panniers will fit a full face helmet.

    Servicing charges for the HS/HM 821 from Minerva are as follow:
    Run-in Service - $240
    Regular Service - $270
    15000km Service - $440
    30000km Service - $1360
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    Quote Originally Posted by barracuda View Post
    Hi fellow HM/HS riders, been riding my Hyperstrada for a month now. The most fun bike I've ever owned. For commuting, I use touring mode which works perfectly. On wet roads, I switch to urban mode for more ABS & traction control. The bike is best when you run it above 4k rpm. Anything below, it's not happy. On expressway legal speed (90km/h), 5th gear is enough. Its not fun to cruise on the HM/HS, it's meant to be ridden hard with fast accelerations. Panniers will fit a full face helmet.

    Servicing charges for the HS/HM 821 from Minerva are as follow:
    Run-in Service - $240
    Regular Service - $270
    15000km Service - $440
    30000km Service - $1360
    Thanks for the heads up...

    i'm estimating that i'm going to clock +/- 1800 km per month.
    Yes, i know high mileage Ducati will hurt the re-sale value. So, let's get past that.

    So, will the regular service ($270) be my once per month kind of thing?

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    The key milestone servicings are at 1k, 15k & 30k where there are more stuff that needs to be checked and replaced. The 15k intervals are a little too long for my liking as I'm used to changing EO every 5k. The $270 regular servicing is for servcing outside these major milestone servicings which includes the standard checks/adjustments on brakes etc. People will probably do this before a track session. I probably will not spend $270 to do that as most other workshops can change EO for much lesser. Just buy the oil filter & o-ring for drain plug from them.
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    For more details on what needs to be replaced when etc, you can refer to the owners manual (pg 198 onwards).
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_S...ZaeGdpUjg/view

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    @barracuda....

    Swee la boss..
    Thank you very much...

    Anyway, what are your thoughts on "hard break-in" for a new bike instead of following the manual?
    See link: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

    Cant wait for my Hyper Beast!!!

    Ride safe people...

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    You placed your order for the HM already? There's a red & black one being prepared for handover. One of it should be yours?

    Running in keep within 6k rpm. Within that rpm range is already quite torquey. It's pretty 'hard' riding for me already. You will be the 1st off the traffic lights and everyone else is way behind you. Overtaking on expressway also quick & fast keeping under 6k rpm.

    Like many have said, you can potentially lose your license rather quickly if you are not careful. 6k rpm at 6th gear is already 125km/h. How 'hard' can we ride in SGP?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheresHope View Post
    @barracuda....

    Swee la boss..
    Thank you very much...

    Anyway, what are your thoughts on "hard break-in" for a new bike instead of following the manual?
    See link: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

    Cant wait for my Hyper Beast!!!

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    hi bro,

    Sorry for late reply. been very very busy lately.
    Nope. i have not ordered a HM yet. Was waiting for HM 939 to be unveiled before making any decision.
    Now that it's already unveiled, I might be ordering the HM 939 in the very near future. Not confirm yet.

    If you don't mind sharing, did you ride your HM as a daily commute?
    If yes, how much petrol per month based on your daily commute mileage?

    Yes, i know that individual riding style and riders weight comes into equation when asking about fuel mileage. I just want a rough estimate.

    I'm planning to ride my HM as daily commute. Maybe clocking between 1500-1800 km per month.
    I'm guessing i might have to pay $150-$200 (ESSO Supreme+) on petrol alone per month based on my mileage. Just a guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by barracuda View Post
    You placed your order for the HM already? There's a red & black one being prepared for handover. One of it should be yours?

    Running in keep within 6k rpm. Within that rpm range is already quite torquey. It's pretty 'hard' riding for me already. You will be the 1st off the traffic lights and everyone else is way behind you. Overtaking on expressway also quick & fast keeping under 6k rpm.

    Like many have said, you can potentially lose your license rather quickly if you are not careful. 6k rpm at 6th gear is already 125km/h. How 'hard' can we ride in SGP?

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    I was getting ard 17-18 km/L on my HM821, on Esso 95, just for reference

     

     
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    @filtered,

    thanks for the reply.
    did you ride your HM as daily commute?
    Any problem with HM so far?

    I'm a subscriber of a motor vlogger snowcatxx87 on youtube.
    Subscribed to him cos he ride a HM SP. So far, not so good news on the HM 821 SP.

    I've read that there're lots of problem with the HM 821.
    Not sure if the problem is only in the North America market or the whole HM in general.

    Hoping & praying that HM 939 will resolve all the problems.



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    I was getting ard 17-18 km/L on my HM821, on Esso 95, just for reference

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    Every bike model (for all brands) out there will have a few rare cases of lemons like the one you posted. Even the ever reliable Japanese bike will have a case or 2 of bad production bike and that does not make the entire product line bad. With warranty, there's nothing to fear actually. Many owners including myself are happy with the reliability so far.

    I don't commute 100% on the HS which is dependent on weather and mood. My FC averages about 20km/L and it varies with the riding mode I select. It translate to about $24 every 220km on 95Ron. If you travel 1800km a month, it works out to $200 for petrol alone per month. Once you hit class 2 bikes, FC becomes secondary. You want performance when FC has to be sacrificed.

    Every new model will always be better in specs. 939 surely is better than 821. But 939 will have first year production issues which the 821 has ironed out after 3 years of production. 2015 model of HM/HS 821 is as reliable as it can get already. Plus it should be priced competitively to clear for the coming 939. You can get a good deal for it now. 939 will not be available till 2nd half of 2016 I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barracuda View Post
    Every bike model (for all brands) out there will have a few rare cases of lemons like the one you posted. Even the ever reliable Japanese bike will have a case or 2 of bad production bike and that does not make the entire product line bad. With warranty, there's nothing to fear actually. Many owners including myself are happy with the reliability so far.

    I don't commute 100% on the HS which is dependent on weather and mood. My FC averages about 20km/L and it varies with the riding mode I select. It translate to about $24 every 220km on 95Ron. If you travel 1800km a month, it works out to $200 for petrol alone per month. Once you hit class 2 bikes, FC becomes secondary. You want performance when FC has to be sacrificed.

    Every new model will always be better in specs. 939 surely is better than 821. But 939 will have first year production issues which the 821 has ironed out after 3 years of production. 2015 model of HM/HS 821 is as reliable as it can get already. Plus it should be priced competitively to clear for the coming 939. You can get a good deal for it now. 939 will not be available till 2nd half of 2016 I believe.
    Thanks for the reply.

    It's a relief to hear that you and other Hyper owners are happy with the reliability of the bike so far.

    Yes, i agree that FC becomes secondary once you have Class 2 bike.
    I did my maths and my estimate is almost spot on as your estimate which is around $200 per month.

    Just got news from Ducati SG that the bike will be in SG earliest on April 2016.
    Yeah, i agree that the 3 years production of 821 will definitely (hopefully) resolved the 821 issues and will be cheaper too but the new Ohlins front suspension is just like pure SEX ORGASMIC NIRVANA SESSION WITH KATE UPTON (if that make senses)! hahahaha...
    When the 821 came out, i asked myself, would it be nice if Ducati put the gold Ohlins front suspension on the bike and when the 939 came out, my prayers has been answered.

    Again, thank you for replying. You've been a great help.
    hopefully we can meet up sometime in the future for some coffee session when i get my Hyper.

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    I think if you wait till April, there will not be any 821 Hypers left hahaha. All the Ohlins goodies come with the SP version only which will cost at least $5000 more than the standard Hypermotard. Be prepared for a $40k price tag on the 939 Hypermotard SP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresHope View Post
    @filtered,

    thanks for the reply.
    did you ride your HM as daily commute?
    Any problem with HM so far?

    I'm a subscriber of a motor vlogger snowcatxx87 on youtube.
    Subscribed to him cos he ride a HM SP. So far, not so good news on the HM 821 SP.

    I've read that there're lots of problem with the HM 821.
    Not sure if the problem is only in the North America market or the whole HM in general.

    Hoping & praying that HM 939 will resolve all the problems.

    Hi

    Nope I did not use as daily commute. Only had about 8000km after 2 yrs ownership.

    Anyway I've sold the bike alrdy, did not have any problems with it, except the throttle position sensor, which was replaced under warranty

    Also Minerva is no longer the Ducati distributor, and rumour has it Ducati Thailand will take over.

    However in the interim, the handover seems to be in a mess with no communication to customers, so you may wanna wait and see first.

    Once you own another make other than Ducati, you will appreciate how much more refined the other european brands are....hehe...but having said that, I believe everybody shld own an Italian at least once =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by barracuda View Post
    I think if you wait till April, there will not be any 821 Hypers left hahaha. All the Ohlins goodies come with the SP version only which will cost at least $5000 more than the standard Hypermotard. Be prepared for a $40k price tag on the 939 Hypermotard SP.
    Hahaha... Yup. Already prepared on the cost wise. But not liking the waiting time. hehehe...

    Quote Originally Posted by filtered View Post
    Hi

    Nope I did not use as daily commute. Only had about 8000km after 2 yrs ownership.

    Anyway I've sold the bike alrdy, did not have any problems with it, except the throttle position sensor, which was replaced under warranty

    Also Minerva is no longer the Ducati distributor, and rumour has it Ducati Thailand will take over.

    However in the interim, the handover seems to be in a mess with no communication to customers, so you may wanna wait and see first.

    Once you own another make other than Ducati, you will appreciate how much more refined the other european brands are....hehe...but having said that, I believe everybody shld own an Italian at least once =D
    Wow! Didn't know this. Guess the smart thing to do is wait.
    Damn! was hoping to get new bike this year. I guess i have to wait another year to let them settle down first.

    Thank You for this great LIFE SAVING info

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    Anyway, Am i correct to say that most of Ducati in Spore is Made in Thailand? Pls correct me if i'm wrong.
    How do i differentiate between Made In Thailand and not Made in Thailand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresHope View Post
    Hahaha... Yup. Already prepared on the cost wise. But not liking the waiting time. hehehe...



    Wow! Didn't know this. Guess the smart thing to do is wait.
    Damn! was hoping to get new bike this year. I guess i have to wait another year to let them settle down first.

    Thank You for this great LIFE SAVING info

    ---------

    Anyway, Am i correct to say that most of Ducati in Spore is Made in Thailand? Pls correct me if i'm wrong.
    How do i differentiate between Made In Thailand and not Made in Thailand?
    From what I know, the Scrambler is confirmed made in Thailand, along with the other entry level models.
    The old air cooled hypers were still made in Bologna. The 821 SP should be Italian also. The base model maybe Thailand.

    Higher end models like the Panigale and Multistrada shld still be from Italy.

    Forget the Hyper and get a BMW R nineT. Better build (loads of aluminum used), made in Berlin, more reliable, better dealer support, and gets way more attention than the hyper =P, and no need to oil any messy chains =D
    Compared to the beemer, the hyper feels rough, cheap and plasticky.

    Oh and ducatis are hard to ride below 4k rpm, the bike will feel jerky, and really only comes alive ard 5k rpm. The nineT however has loads of usable torque down low, from 3k all the way to 8k+, which is better for commuting.

    and most important: A BMW with 20,000km on the odo after 1 yr+ is considered normal. A ducati with the same mileage is considered high mileage hehehe...something to think abt when it comes to resale in the future. Apparently due to the boxer engine layout, the beemers do need to be ridden regularly to keep the seals etc from drying out, from what i hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filtered View Post
    From what I know, the Scrambler is confirmed made in Thailand, along with the other entry level models.
    The old air cooled hypers were still made in Bologna. The 821 SP should be Italian also. The base model maybe Thailand.

    Higher end models like the Panigale and Multistrada shld still be from Italy.

    Forget the Hyper and get a BMW R nineT. Better build (loads of aluminum used), made in Berlin, more reliable, better dealer support, and gets way more attention than the hyper =P, and no need to oil any messy chains =D
    Compared to the beemer, the hyper feels rough, cheap and plasticky.

    Oh and ducatis are hard to ride below 4k rpm, the bike will feel jerky, and really only comes alive ard 5k rpm. The nineT however has loads of usable torque down low, from 3k all the way to 8k+, which is better for commuting.

    and most important: A BMW with 20,000km on the odo after 1 yr+ is considered normal. A ducati with the same mileage is considered high mileage hehehe...something to think abt when it comes to resale in the future. Apparently due to the boxer engine layout, the beemers do need to be ridden regularly to keep the seals etc from drying out, from what i hear.
    How about Harley?

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    Dont know abt Harleys. Never owned one and probably never will.....not my thing...

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    The new Ducati dealer (Ducatisti) has taken over old dealership (Minerva). The old staff are still the same. Just a change in top management (boss). All Ducati bikes still come from Italy and not Thailand according to them as there is no free trade agreement between Singapore and Thailand.

    Read the full details here:
    http://www.motorcultureasia.com/news...eed-to-know-2/

    March 2016 Pricing are as follows:

    Hypermotard 939 - $36,400
    Hypermotard 939 SP - $42,000
    Hyperstrada 939 - $39,000

    BMW and Ducati have their own respective appeal to riders, likewise for niche brands, Triumph, MV Augusta etc. Just go for one that you like.
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    Ducati Monster 400/540
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    Quote Originally Posted by barracuda View Post
    The new Ducati dealer (Ducatisti) has taken over old dealership (Minerva). The old staff are still the same. Just a change in top management (boss). All Ducati bikes still come from Italy and not Thailand according to them as there is no free trade agreement between Singapore and Thailand.

    Read the full details here:
    http://www.motorcultureasia.com/news...eed-to-know-2/

    March 2016 Pricing are as follows:

    Hypermotard 939 - $36,400
    Hypermotard 939 SP - $42,000
    Hyperstrada 939 - $39,000

    BMW and Ducati have their own respective appeal to riders, likewise for niche brands, Triumph, MV Augusta etc. Just go for one that you like.
    Wah....the price of the base model 939 now is more than the 821SP 3 yrs ago....

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