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    Default Recommend me a Cl 2A/2 scooter plz



    Its been 6 years since i last looked for a bike. Now uncle liao looking for scooter with decent power and getting lazy to change gear. Surfed the forum and garage sales abit saw a few models.

    If i am looking for a scooter with decent power and cost for long term usage mostly riding with pillion what are the recommendations nowadays? I noted the following models but please help me highlight the benefits and drawbacks especially;

    1. SilverWing 400
    2. Yamaha Maj 400
    3. Honda 750D
    4. Tmax 530 < This option like very expensive?

    Appreciate suggestions and any latest cost info if available to share. Ongoing maintenance cost will definitely help me alot.
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    How about a 3 wheeler?

     

     
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    whats the model of the 3 wheeler that is recommended nowadays? let me know i will go read up on it. tyvm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catzilla View Post
    whats the model of the 3 wheeler that is recommended nowadays? let me know i will go read up on it. tyvm!
    Adiva 200cc or 300cc
    PGO 150cc
    Piaggio MP3 125cc to 400cc
    Yamaha Tricity 125cc

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    Hi Im selling my kymco myroad 700i, will u be interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by catzilla View Post
    whats the model of the 3 wheeler that is recommended nowadays? let me know i will go read up on it. tyvm!
    look out for the new Piaggio MP3 500, very safe and high tech bike

    3 wheels, ABS and Traction control new model has a bigger storage and 40hp good enough for 2up riding and long distance rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondaoftroy View Post
    look out for the new Piaggio MP3 500, very safe and high tech bike

    3 wheels, ABS and Traction control new model has a bigger storage and 40hp good enough for 2up riding and long distance rides
    Oh yes, forgot about the 500cc version. Also one more the Gilera Fuoco 500cc, also 3 wheeler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn1251 View Post
    Oh yes, forgot about the 500cc version. Also one more the Gilera Fuoco 500cc, also 3 wheeler.
    Gilera Fuoco is no longer in production, Piaggio also has tried to sell Gilera to BMW
    beside it has a smaller underseat storage no ABS no traction control

    Looks like Gilera will sieze to exist in the near future and be absorbed into the Piaggio brand

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    silverwing is a good choice...exp at first but cheaper to maintain after tat...2 cyclinders so decent power for 400cc

    i rode tmax 500 before...have power n handling but more exp to maintain than silverwing... eg the transmission vbelt interval is abt 10k km sooner than silverwing...fc abt 20-22km per litre

    tmax 530 more expensive n runs on 2 belts...tats all i know

    oh ya n tmax have better brakes but silverwing more underseat storage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost04 View Post
    silverwing is a good choice...exp at first but cheaper to maintain after tat...2 cyclinders so decent power for 400cc

    i rode tmax 500 before...have power n handling but more exp to maintain than silverwing... eg the transmission vbelt interval is abt 10k km sooner than silverwing...fc abt 20-22km per litre

    tmax 530 more expensive n runs on 2 belts...tats all i know

    oh ya n tmax have better brakes but silverwing more underseat storage

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    Concur that, rode 04 Tmax and 08 Silverwing before, each bike has its pro and con. If you value handling and power, Tmax wont disappoint but more ex to upkeep than SW such as tyres and belts. If you value FC, storage space and cheaper maintenance, then Sw with Honda reliability wont disappoint you.
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    ok i will go read up on the Swing/mp3-500. Actually my main concern is the ease of repairs with easily available parts, low maintenance cost and build to last. I will definitely going to install a topbox, but more underseat compartment space is something i won't mind yeah.

    Any worthy thing to note about Swing/MP3 on any parts that noticeably keep giving problems? One thing to point out is that i will probably never zhng a single thing on the coming scooter purchase so if they come with undesirable shocks or any core components appreciate if you guys can point out for me to note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catzilla View Post
    ok i will go read up on the Swing/mp3-500. Actually my main concern is the ease of repairs with easily available parts, low maintenance cost and build to last. I will definitely going to install a topbox, but more underseat compartment space is something i won't mind yeah.

    Any worthy thing to note about Swing/MP3 on any parts that noticeably keep giving problems? One thing to point out is that i will probably never zhng a single thing on the coming scooter purchase so if they come with undesirable shocks or any core components appreciate if you guys can point out for me to note.
    If low maintenance is your concern you might wanna consider

    1. Piaggio x10 350
    2. Sym Joymax 300i
    3. Kymco Downtown 350i

    All these bike have huge storage space and decent HP for city riding and weekends touring trips

    Again with Piaggio being the most ex & advance with ABS & traction control while SYM being the most value buy

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    maxsym
    cheap and good
    reliable
    parts can get even cheaper from Malaysia
    2/3 of Japanese bike price

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    or maybe a Vespa GTS300 if you are looking for a lifestyle bike.

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    Silverwing or Tmax bro.

    SwT400 has never given me much problem during the years I own it.

    Tmax has a long horde of riders that can vouch for the power and handling.

    if you are concern with FC, then stick to 2B bikes man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmodel View Post
    or maybe a Vespa GTS300 if you are looking for a lifestyle bike.
    ok i took a look at it but still prefer maxi scoots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elton View Post
    Silverwing or Tmax bro.

    SwT400 has never given me much problem during the years I own it.

    Tmax has a long horde of riders that can vouch for the power and handling.

    if you are concern with FC, then stick to 2B bikes man.
    maintenance of the Tmax is it like very much higher than SW? Anyway whats the difference in price between this 2 models? Like in the last 3 months for a brand new?

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    bro u need to compromise some here n there...
    tmax more exp than silverwing but tmax offers more power n better handling than silverwing...
    brakes also better...
    their fc abt 2-5km per litre apart only
    silverwing maintenance lower than tmax n powerful enough to tour or go fast...as well as storage space bigger than tmax...
    100cc apart but different class in terms of sg licence


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    Quote Originally Posted by catzilla View Post
    ok i took a look at it but still prefer maxi scoots.



    maintenance of the Tmax is it like very much higher than SW? Anyway whats the difference in price between this 2 models? Like in the last 3 months for a brand new?
    both machines difference abt a few thousand...
    the tmax 500 will be cheaper to run than the 530

    current coe the silverwing might have breached the 20k mark...cos silverwing more exp than s4...tmax should be abt 24k


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost04 View Post
    both machines difference abt a few thousand...
    the tmax 500 will be cheaper to run than the 530

    current coe the silverwing might have breached the 20k mark...cos silverwing more exp than s4...tmax should be abt 24k


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    ok thanks for the price range update. I think Tmax price range is out of my league after much consideration. I will just settle for SW. Have to start worrying how to protect the seats, 95% of my parking spots are either direct under the hot sun both at home and at work with resident kitties in the night.

     

     
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    ok which shop do you guys recommend to go down and check pricing? If sensitive to post here can pm me?

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    cant help here cos the bikeshop i go may not be the one others may recommend...haha
    u wont regret getting the silverwing even though i nvr ridden 1 before...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost04 View Post
    cant help here cos the bikeshop i go may not be the one others may recommend...haha
    u wont regret getting the silverwing even though i nvr ridden 1 before...


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    Burgman is still better than Swing if you had never try how topass judgement it purely bias eg. Burg is lighter than Swing
    Burg has twin front disc brakes .Burg is mono shock absorb for the rear no ugly pogo sticks behind .Burg has flat foot rest. For pillion passenger important touring n not pegs. Burg is aesthetically sexy .Swing has 1 plus point is a twin engines.but fuel consumption slightly more than the Burgman 400. Quote base on experience

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    i was only comparing silverwing n tmax...my judgement based on my experience on a tmax...burgman is expensive tats why i don even wanto consider as i only see the 650 not the 400


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    Quote Originally Posted by TMGIAM View Post
    Burgman is still better than Swing if you had never try how topass judgement it purely bias eg. Burg is lighter than Swing
    Burg has twin front disc brakes .Burg is mono shock absorb for the rear no ugly pogo sticks behind .Burg has flat foot rest. For pillion passenger important touring n not pegs. Burg is aesthetically sexy .Swing has 1 plus point is a twin engines.but fuel consumption slightly more than the Burgman 400. Quote base on experience
    if u wanna include the burgman into the discussion the ts will be more than happy as it widens his selection...to me japanese scoots more reliable than continental scoots

    happy new year to u


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    Yes Sir ! .Happy. New Year ! Watch Ytube very educational

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    are you comparing between tmax 530, Silverwing 600 and Burgman 650?

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    if you wan my opinion, the new tmax uses LED headlamps, brighter illum for safety, upsidedown fork for stability (All other scoooter dun have this, correct me if im wrong) Mono Shock and not forgetting the the torque is 52.3 NM at 5250rpm compared to BM because tmax is lighter in weight so you may feel that its lighter on take off and mid range.

    Tmax also has the most accessories and upgrade mod parts in the entire scooter cat. If it was me and I want a bike that makes me happy, it will be Tmax and not others.

    I have ridden a SWt400 for 4 years. All I can say its a very reliable bike. But when you want performance, it will probably be restricted as its not designed to be a sporty scooter. While Tmax is,

    Burgman is just old in design and heavier. OVer 10 years ther bike still looks the same to me which is kind of dissapointing from suzuki, but Yamaha does have a good reputation of having better value holding as compared to other brands.

    Hope my review helps u in making your decision for your new purchase

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    Aiyo. I've rode the SW/SW-T for 8 years++ and I've never actively recommended it to others.
    SW is only 400cc, slow and heavy with very little after market accessories.
    It is only for a selected few who chose comfort and storage above everything else.
    There are many other 400cc around if price is the main consideration.

    Get the Tmax530 if possible. Fast, nimble and with 25% more power yet lighter. Very stable even at 180km/h.

    Alternative, can consider the Burgman650. More storage, less maintenance (no final drive belt to change) and comes with adjustable screens and mirrors. However, slight wobble at 160km/h.
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