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    ultimax: Usually, I do 3 coating or 4. The more coating, the longer it will last...
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    I only put 1 coating. the paint will wear off after sometime.
    Quite difficult to spray at the top end.
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    ultimax: Usually, I do 3 coating or 4. The more coating, the longer it will last...
    ah ok thanks. how many coats will I be able to do with 1 can of paint?

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    To prevent rusting of exhaust pipe, I found the following to be the best preventive measure:-
    Upon getting a bike (best if new), dismantle the exhaust. Next pour motor oil into the exhaust and shake it. Pour out the excess oil. Assemble back the exhaust. Then take the bike for a long fast ride. This is to heat up the exhaust. The oil in the exhaust will then form a hard layer of protective carbon inside the exhaust. In this way the exhaust will last a long long time (> 5 years). However, take note that this method will create a lot of smoke in the beginning so beware of the TPs.....
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    To prevent rusting of exhaust pipe, I found the following to be the best preventive measure:-
    Upon getting a bike (best if new), dismantle the exhaust. Next pour motor oil into the exhaust and shake it. Pour out the excess oil. Assemble back the exhaust. Then take the bike for a long fast ride. This is to heat up the exhaust. The oil in the exhaust will then form a hard layer of protective carbon inside the exhaust. In this way the exhaust will last a long long time (> 5 years). However, take note that this method will create a lot of smoke in the beginning so beware of the TPs.....
    And oh, the above mentioned method is not recommended for 2-stroke bikes and scooters!!!! Cos it will clog up the exhaust!!
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    ultimax: For 1 can, U will be able to do abt 4 layer n still a bit left over.
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    just like to ask than when u all remove e heard do ur notice between e header n the block got casket ....

    is it needed to replace a new casket when fixing back the header after respraying or will it cos leakage of engine cover to make it dirty or

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    ultimax: For 1 can, U will be able to do abt 4 layer n still a bit left over.
    Hey Kata, May I know where can I buy this "can" of spray? what brand?
    Thanks man.

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    If your bikes are like mine, the gasket is actually high-temp sillicone paste. You can buy a tube of it from most hardware stores for abt $6 i think . Make sure it's high-temp sillocone!

    As for the high-temp spray, you can get it from a bikeshop or a hardware shop. Even Handifix has it...but it's really pricey there. $11 a can for the RJ brand.

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    gsxxer: Roughly tat price... Remember, dun buy and use the glossy high temperature spray. Use d normal high temperature spray can liao.
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    Hey Kata, May I know where can I buy this "can" of spray? what brand?
    Thanks man.
    all respectable spray paint brands have some kind of high-temp paint, usually in matt black, for obvious reasons

    any hardware shop should have. but for exhaut headers, dun really need to bother, the rust will definitely come back, best is to go for chrome/stain-tune coating..

    for mufflers still not so bad.
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    Wat's the effect of having rusty exhaust?
    If the rust gets really bad ur metal will corrode and a hole will appear in no time...then u will lose power because ur compresion drops...that is what happen to my KIPS...had to get it mend back and spray with high temperature paint...it did last a little longer bout 6 months before it got bad again...then juz sand down and spray again...
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    Anyone wan to spray ure header? If wan, pls contact me at 92711997. Cos I'm helping 2 of my friends to do it on 13/10/03 at 10am - 4pm. Must well do it a mass one... No charges is needed, wat u need is to buy those stuff which u need.
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    spray primer as the under coat to prevent rust in future
    get the barbacue pit paint to paint it.
    heard from other fourm quite good.
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    Can anyone please advise me if there is a place I could send my exhaust for rechroming? Is there such a process. A friend just rode on my bike and fell.

    Please advise.

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    rechrome over chrome surface wont last long de. It will peel off...

    Can anyone please advise me if there is a place I could send my exhaust for rechroming? Is there such a process. A friend just rode on my bike and fell.

    Please advise.

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    rechrome over chrome surface wont last long de. It will peel off...

    Peel off and see underneath rusty~

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    There is a "paint" call "cold galvanizing compound" which I saw worker in the oil refinery using it. I think this can da han high heat.

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    just like to ask than when u all remove e heard do ur notice between e header n the block got casket ....

    is it needed to replace a new casket when fixing back the header after respraying or will it cos leakage of engine cover to make it dirty or
    Block got CASKET?? Or replace a new CASKET?? Then you need an undertaker liao!!!

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    hi guys well i use hi temp paint <spray> well sand ur pipe the rust must be gone or else "NO POINT" WASH THE PIPE OR ELSE THEREE WILL BE RUST particals then spray lah ....

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    In fact, I have tried d high temp barbacue pit spray. So far so good. Worth trying it...
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    wat is Primer actually?

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    can lacquer the header tube?
    Mine around 3 month since the last respray together with the whole bike, think need to spray it again before i sell my bike. So whats the conclusion after 5 pages of discussion in this thread?

    Hi-temp spray?
    or
    Rust master + HI-temp spray
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    bbq pit spray alone
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    some other combination?
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    where can i buy the bbq paint?? seems to me like more efective... since bbq can tahan prolong high temp...

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    anyone used RED HOT brand of bbq pit spray paint....found it at &#036;9 at the shops near cdc....any reviews

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    Hey guys, any more spraying session? Just got a 2nd hand S4 and the exhaust already rusty. Never dismantle the exhaust before so thought of tapping with a experience biker to do it together. BTW is it easy to dismantle?

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    Has anybody used Hammerite paint ,
    It is availeble at Vin mart meant for metal and does not need a primer, can paint directly on rust. This is proven tried it at my house windows frames which was rusty,dirty painted it 6 years ago still good. But I don&#39;t know whether can tahan the heat.

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    Removing of pipes are every easy work... try it b4 on my CBR... just unscrew and screw them back....
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    Originally posted by Counter&#045;Terrorist@May 12 2004, 11:10 PM
    anyone used RED HOT brand of bbq pit spray paint....found it at &#036;9 at the shops near cdc....any reviews
    get a high temp spray at a paint shop off lavander street just few shops beside minerva
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    tried the rj (&#036;6) brand......it sucks big time.....gonna redo it again..it crack n peel off after less than 2 weeks
    think will pop by the hardware shop near cdc to get the red hot to try out after rj use finish

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    my Spark z exhaust, the end part start to rust. have tried WD40 last nite, same thing i saw again, but this time start to spread. Shall i open up the screw to de-rust it?

    Pls advice n help&#33;

     

     
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    After so many comments, spraying of header is not 100% lasting,
    any one know where to chrome the header or to apply anti stain coating
    If possible pls state the price(roughly)
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    Just redo my S4 Vtec&#39;s exhaust header last week, quite satisfy with the result. Looks like brand new and well worth the effort.

    Material used
    3 cans of Bosny Hi-temp BBQ pit spray paint (withstand 1200f - &#036;8.50 each)
    Some sandpaper
    Thinner
    Metal scrub wool
    Wire Brush

    Procedure
    1. Remove header
    2. Completely remove the existing paint to bare metal. The best is use thinner and the metal scrub wool.
    3. Sand down those rusty part and ensure no more rust stain. Use the wire brush for those stubborn rust stain.
    4. Make sure the exhaust header is clean, smooth and dry before spraying.
    5. 1 can of the a/m spray paint can only suffice for 1 coat, I did 3 coating for mine. The final appearance of the paint job doesn&#39;t look thick and the surface is superb&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;



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    15 Mar 05 - condition remains the same, superb....
    15 May 05 - condition remains the same, superb....
    15 Jul 05 - beside normal stain thru riding, after a wash down, condition remains the same, superb....

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    Originally posted by Kushinagar@Dec 13 2004, 10:10 PM
    Looks like brand new and well worth the effort.
    I completely agree. I re-sprayed my friend&#39;s WR200 stomach + header and the end result was well worth the 1-2 hrs spent&#33;

    We used sandpaper and a wire brush attached to a drill (50mm in diameter, &#036;2 at Daiso, &#036;5 at Homely) to get rid of most of the rust. The brush makes quick work of the surface rust&#33; Definitely a time-saver. (1 can of Bosny Hi-Temp spray (~&#036;8) was enough for 3+ coats.

    Before:



    During:



    After:



    It&#39;s unfortunate that parts of the stomach had warped (why, we don&#39;t know) and had become deformed. No amount of sanding by hand could get the surface flat. That would have certainly been achievable with an angle grinder, but to be honest, it probably wouldn&#39;t have been worth the extra effort as we got most of the rust off by hand.

    We also made the mistake of purchasing glossy hi-temp spray. The spray&#39;s available in flat black, a colour which would have suited a scrambler better than glossy black.

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    Originally posted by ultimax@Dec 17 2004, 01:59 PM
    We also made the mistake of purchasing glossy hi-temp spray. The spray&#39;s available in flat black, a colour which would have suited a scrambler better than glossy black.
    I brought the 1st can of the Bosny BBQ Pit Spray Flat Black (matt finish) at the Geylang Serai Paint ship for &#036;12.80...... Damn expensive&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

    It last me only 1 coat for my S4 exhaust header. Then purchase another 2 cans of the same spray at industrial park paint shop, cost only &#036;8.50/each.

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    Originally posted by Kushinagar@Dec 17 2004, 04:58 PM
    I brought the 1st can of the Bosny BBQ Pit Spray Flat Black (matt finish) at the Geylang Serai Paint ship for &#036;12.80...... Damn expensive&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
    heh same price as Handi-Fix

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    juz wondering if there&#39;s any clear high temp paint similar to lacquer?

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    just resprayed my exhaust a week ago.

    model- NSR150

    items:
    sandpaper
    newspaper
    RJ hi temp spray x1
    hairdryer
    essential tools

    2hrs to sand off the fricken rust

    90mins to get the fcken screws off the gasket cos it was SOOOOOOOOOO tight, worse than virgin pvssy.

    i didnt care too much about the look so i just sprayed very generously.

    i plug the hairdryer into the hole after each layer of spray to allow it to dry faster cos i was doing at night.

    sprayed 3 layers overall, 1 extra layer for the previously rusted areas.

    buay tahan, fell asleep for 25mins when waiting for the last layer to dry.

    end up too sleepy cannot tahan so fixed the pipe back without it completely drying, think i messed up the last layer.

    so far so good, no rust but pipe looks messy due to reason stated above.

    will try to update on rust condition.

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    update 05/01/05:

    so far so good, no rust but the paint seemed to have lost its normal black color and is looking faded. signs that rust is beginning to settle?

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    update 20/02/05:

    still looking good.

    the faded look is not due to rust, its just the normal look when it has dried.

    no rust has settled yet as far as i can see, but the top end of the pipe (not exhaust) seems to be losing its color faster than the other parts...perhaps due to higher temperature?

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    update 30/04/05

    everything still as it was from last update. there will be no more updates...till rust appears&#33;

    have fun spraying ur pipe- remember, patience&#33; patience&#33;
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    Since i did mine i might as well share...

    Diary of the anti-rust-of-the-exhaust exhausted rider.

    used this Mar-Hyde brand One-Step that converts rust to black primer without sanding (aka tough black coating)...

    after drying for half a day (full 12 hours), applied Derusto brand Heat Master Enamel spray that resists temperature up to 1000 F (537C).. sprayed two coats... dried for 1 full day...

    fixed it up

    use bike on the next day...

    paint on exhaust peeled off totally... (or 90%)... metal is exposed... but hey&#33; No rust&#33;

    btw which is the header part? the big fat chunk at the end of the exhaust?
    that part is safe... at least i see it&#39;s safe...

    since i think there is a difference in temperature in the whole exhaust pipe (hotter at the front of the exhaust system), so i conclude the primer not useful at high temp. Will try just spraying with the high temp spray alone.
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    hi guys, just got my 2nd hand S4 and want to respray my header cos abit rusty....wondering how to take out the header...anyone can roughly teach how? easy to take out and put back in? thanks in advance&#33;

     

     
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    Originally posted by lunloon@Mar 15 2005, 06:05 PM
    Since i did mine i might as well share...

    Diary of the anti-rust-of-the-exhaust exhausted rider.

    used this Mar-Hyde brand One-Step that converts rust to black primer without sanding (aka tough black coating)...

    after drying for half a day (full 12 hours), applied Derusto brand Heat Master Enamel spray that resists temperature up to 1000 F (537C).. sprayed two coats... dried for 1 full day...

    fixed it up

    use bike on the next day...

    paint on exhaust peeled off totally... (or 90%)... metal is exposed... but hey&#33; No rust&#33;

    btw which is the header part? the big fat chunk at the end of the exhaust?
    that part is safe... at least i see it&#39;s safe...

    since i think there is a difference in temperature in the whole exhaust pipe (hotter at the front of the exhaust system), so i conclude the primer not useful at high temp. Will try just spraying with the high temp spray alone.
    the big fat chunk at the end is the end can. the header is the 4/2/1 pipe/s leading out from the front, depending on what bike u ride

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    Originally posted by jocoolseah@Mar 27 2005, 07:28 PM
    hi guys, just got my 2nd hand S4 and want to respray my header cos abit rusty....wondering how to take out the header...anyone can roughly teach how? easy to take out and put back in? thanks in advance&#33;
    simple, use a size 12 socket, den unscrew the screws. total should have 8 screws. 2 for each head. if u have any more doubts, pm me, maybe we can arrange for u to come to my place den i show u how to take out

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    Originally posted by jocoolseah@Mar 27 2005, 07:28 PM
    hi guys, just got my 2nd hand S4 and want to respray my header cos abit rusty....wondering how to take out the header...anyone can roughly teach how? easy to take out and put back in? thanks in advance&#33;
    See attached.

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    ok...thanks for the info wX and Kushinagar&#33;
    looks relatively easy....will try to take it out and redo soon.
    so the Bosny BBQ hi-temp spray seems to be alrite according to the posts here...can get from any hardware/DIY shop rite...hmm...

    ok thanks again guys&#33;

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    where can i buy the Bosny bbq pit hi temp spray at west areas?

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    Where do u buy this product
    Bosny bbq pit hi temp spray

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    One option that does work quite well is to have your pipes sandblasted and then aluminium coated. The coat is applied by a process of hot spraying the molten metal over the blasted pipes. It leaves a semi-rough texture, but will not allow rust to form on the steel pipe, it is not a shiny chrome like finish.

    The process is fairly quick and it is not that expensive. I had my touring bike pipes done in this way and have not had any problems with rust. They are in good condition after 12 yrs of use. I think that firms specialising in protective coatings, such as used in building sships etc, may be the best bet, as I dont know who can do this in Sg.

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    my pipes are rusty too,any idea how much it will time and money it will take to DIY?preferbably someone who has done it can organsie a DIY session for all interested newbie parties like me??

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    Originally posted by JJ84@May 4 2005, 08:29 PM
    my pipes are rusty too,any idea how much it will time and money it will take to DIY?preferbably someone who has done it can organsie a DIY session for all interested newbie parties like me??
    yalor me interested too

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