coolant

[[-tRuSt-]]

hi...do i have to add any water ??

[Andy]

"]hi...do i have to add any water ??

yes. Distilled water (aka battery water)

[[-tRuSt-]]

i mean the coolent...

[Andy]

"]i mean the coolent...

which coolant? waterwetter?

coolant comes in 2 type.

1) premixed.
2) concentrated.

for 2), yes you have to add in water, usually the ratio is 1:1, water:coolant.

For 1), just fill it up.

[rhema83]

I plan to use WaterWetter for my SP. What kind of flush should I use to flush my radiator? Must it be any special kind, or any flush will do?

Anyway is anyone interested in sharing a bottle? I think one bottle can last until I go class 2 ah!

[raven77]

bought shell premixed coolant at $7 a bottle of 1250ml. quite reasonable but dont know good a not

[SaintDuDu]

Originally posted by rhema83@Dec 28 2003, 01:06 AM
I plan to use WaterWetter for my SP. What kind of flush should I use to flush my radiator? Must it be any special kind, or any flush will do?

Anyway is anyone interested in sharing a bottle? I think one bottle can last until I go class 2 ah!

hmmm... i just used vinger+ water to flush my coolent..
was taught to me by il4.. keke
it works nice.. but the smell.. yuck...

[R3sistor]

can someone fill me in pls.. kinda confused here.
Flush coolant = taking out all yr old coolant then replace it with new one?
and what's flushing radiator for?

[treegood]

well from wat i know flushing is to clear the radiator of scale or old glyco that is stuck in there after using e old coolant for a long time. i'm not veri sure..u can ask il4 to clarify.


Just flushed my radiator using vinegar and distilled water and changed the glyco based coolant to waterwetter + distilled water. not easy man..took 2 hours...

Tested the effects just now..not badz..temp is around 80-82c even tho i maintain a slow speed of 50km/h. On eways, it went down to 79c and not lower..well i guess the engine has its operating temp which is ard 79c and thus it cant go down any lower...

will test it in afternoons to see if there is any difference anot.

overall i'm happy with it..feels cooler..hee..maybe its psychological..

[[-tRuSt-]]

Originally posted by Andy@Dec 26 2003, 04:44 PM

which coolant? waterwetter?

coolant comes in 2 type.

1) premixed.
2) concentrated.

for 2), yes you have to add in water, usually the ratio is 1:1, water:coolant.

For 1), just fill it up.

so how do i noe is premix or...??so i kinda of newbie...

[[-tRuSt-]]

i riding tzm now...2b bikes the coolent juz add in either premix or already mix already is it?

[Kino]

Hmmm when should i flush my coolent out???? Got my new Krr and had rided for 2000km.. Should i just buy coolent and pour in or need to flush out????
Can sum experts state the exact steps to flush out???

[R3sistor]

Originally posted by Kino@Mar 31 2004, 11:23 PM
Hmmm when should i flush my coolent out???? Got my new Krr and had rided for 2000km.. Should i just buy coolent and pour in or need to flush out????
Can sum experts state the exact steps to flush out???

Yrz is a new bike, first hand?
Don't have to flush it so soon. Don't have to waste yr money.
I've been riding mine for more than a year, and never flushed it yet.

[smokingjoe]

hi there,
today my bikes temperature went up till 130 degree...
i quickly stop down and just after i stopped, alot of smoke come out from my coolant tank part . quickly went off and find water to splash on it.
after that i on again , it ecame normal again.
is it normal ?????????????/
up till now, theres no sign of coolant leaking or whatsoever, will try to ride tomorrow to find out whether theres any abnomalities.
but i realise that my temperature rises very quickly nowadays,
what is the prob? what can i do?

[ktkt]

Originally posted by smokingjoe@May 2 2004, 10:44 PM
but i realise that my temperature rises very quickly nowadays,
what is the prob? what can i do?

Got drink herbal tea or not? Nowadays very heaty.

think check coolant level first lar. Maybe not enuff of coolant and hence
overheating. Either that, some part of your coolant system is giving u problem
liao. could be head gasket, impeller not working, thermostat etc etc.

[Prestone]

My coolant is stucked...what to do?It keeps overflowing....is it the radiator or the hoses stucked with sumting...the coolant keep spilling over the coolant resevoir cap...especially over high speeds....
On more than one occasion the thermostat shoot up to the max....and slowly when moving then go down,then traffic light shoot up again....when i opened up my coolant tank,the coolant was near the brim of the tank...

What to do??
Some one help me....

[AH_SHUN]

hi all,

just wanna know if anyone of u out there know where i can get a new radiator done out?
not in those motor tiam, but a decent radiator repair shop that can build the radiator
to your own specification.
i've heard of copper made radiator been a better heat resistor material tobe made into radiator although silver is the best but it will cost a bomb to made it with.

thanks
zen

[smellie_ahwan]

i htink using silver is a big gamble with regards to security.

[299]

maybe should come up wit column on the different types of coolent, the pricing and where to get them...

[PureNRG]

me using RAD-COOL from Esso station , not bad actually.

but abit exp. It's anti-rust and for tropical usage. (so i don't think have anti-freeze?)

[Shawn--]

i'm sorry guys... can list out da steps on how to flush ??? Wads flush ? clearing away da old coolant ? 50%coolant + 50% distilled water(battery water) pour in da container call flushing or just refilling ?

[MrLau]

Originally posted by Shawn--@Dec 25 2004, 05:57 PM
i'm sorry guys...  can list out da steps on how to flush ??? Wads flush ? clearing away da old coolant ?  50%coolant + 50% distilled water(battery water) pour in da container call flushing or just refilling ?

similar to flush toilet ...

Depend on what bike lah, a simple one as below :

1. Find the coolant drain nut location and the radiator cap.
2. Open the radiator cap, open the drain nut (without open the cap, the coolant flow out slow).

3. Use running tap to the radiator and let it flow for a while.
4. Cleaning the reservoir tank.
5. Tighten back the drain nut.
6. Pour in coolant to the raditor. (What type of coolant is up to you, can use ready-use, or you get the coolant to mix, 15%-20% coolant ratio to the pure/distilled water, or you can use waterwetter).

7. Start the bike, throttle abit, off engine, pour in coolant again if the level drop. Repeat again until the coolant level maintain full.

8. Close the radiator cap.
9. Pour in coolant to the reserviour tank.

[duo maxwell]

anybody know where got sell water wetter or good coolants??? want to buy coolants to replace the orginal 1 coz the orginal 1 just cannot make it, canot cool it bike down.

anybody know the correct steps to change ur coolants??? some1 told me to just drain all the coolant out. Flush the system with water. Drain the water out and follow the directions on the bottle. don't know which is the best way to replace coolants..

[justmelah]

Originally posted by duo maxwell@Mar 2 2005, 11:39 AM
anybody know where got sell water wetter or good coolants??? want to buy coolants to replace the orginal 1 coz the orginal 1 just cannot make it, canot cool it bike down.

anybody know the correct steps to change ur coolants??? some1 told me to just drain all the coolant out. Flush the system with water. Drain the water out and follow the directions on the bottle. don't know which is the best way to replace coolants..

did my waterweeter and flushing at racewerk for 20 buck

[d0n^]

Originally posted by duo maxwell@Mar 2 2005, 11:39 AM
anybody know where got sell water wetter or good coolants??? want to buy coolants to replace the orginal 1 coz the orginal 1 just cannot make it, canot cool it bike down.

anybody know the correct steps to change ur coolants??? some1 told me to just drain all the coolant out. Flush the system with water. Drain the water out and follow the directions on the bottle. don't know which is the best way to replace coolants..

waterwetter can be purchased at MotorX
the steps to flushing is located in the post right above yrs

[cwq]

a guys u can do flushing anywhere rite??
ur void deck, carpark?? or muz collect n dispose of the flushed out stuff properly??

[299]

Originally posted by Shawn--@Dec 25 2004, 05:57 PM
i'm sorry guys... can list out da steps on how to flush ??? Wads flush ? clearing away da old coolant ? 50%coolant + 50% distilled water(battery water) pour in da container call flushing or just refilling ?

may i ask what's the difference btwn distill water and batt water?
By the way are they the same??

[Aalex82]

Originally posted by ProjectD@Mar 16 2005, 10:55 AM
may i ask what's the difference btwn distill water and batt water?
By the way are they the same??

they are actually the same thing... u check the content/wordings on the bottle of battery. u will find that it stated the fluid in there is distilled water.

[MS]

Originally posted by Coo|^guy@Mar 16 2005, 11:58 AM
they are actually the same thing... u check the content/wordings on the bottle of battery. u will find that it stated the fluid in there is distilled water.

No. Battery water and distilled water is totally different. Although some pple pour distilled water into batteries. It works as it dilutes the electrolyte but increasing the content letting it cover the metal plates in the battery. But its is not advisable as it shortens life spans of battery. I have come across many drivers and trainees in my office resorting to use distilled water for their batteries. This is not the right practice. Battery water can be purchased from any automobile shop. Do not use it if seal is broken. To test the usability, pour out a bit on the floor. Bubbles will immediately form with a 'sss' sound as though its eating into the ground. If not then it fails.

Battery water is commonly known as electrolyte. It is acidic and non potable. Even if it comes into contact with skin, you must wash it away. Else you'll start to itch. If fabric comes into contact, it will discolour and holes will start to appear.

Distilled water in itself is pure water (H2O) There is no other particles inside. It is also potable. Distilled water is meant to mix with ethyleneglycol to form coolant.

For more info do PM me.
(MOTUL INUGEL EXPERT - something you can trust for cooling)

[299]

Originally posted by MS@Mar 17 2005, 03:03 PM
No. Battery water and distilled water is totally different. Although some pple pour distilled water into batteries. It works as it dilutes the electrolyte but increasing the content letting it cover the metal plates in the battery. But its is not advisable as it shortens life spans of battery. I have come across many drivers and trainees in my office resorting to use distilled water for their batteries. This is not the right practice. Battery water can be purchased from any automobile shop. Do not use it if seal is broken. To test the usability, pour out a bit on the floor. Bubbles will immediately form with a 'sss' sound as though its eating into the ground. If not then it fails.

Battery water is commonly known as electrolyte. It is acidic and non potable. Even if it comes into contact with skin, you must wash it away. Else you'll start to itch. If fabric comes into contact, it will discolour and holes will start to appear.

Distilled water in itself is pure water (H2O) There is no other particles inside. It is also potable. Distilled water is meant to mix with ethyleneglycol to form coolant.

For more info do PM me.
(MOTUL INUGEL EXPERT - something you can trust for cooling)

juz imagine tat batt water mix wit coolent into the radiator...

[299]

Originally posted by MrLau@Feb 25 2005, 09:26 AM
similar to flush toilet ...

Depend on what bike lah, a simple one as below :

1. Find the coolant drain nut location and the radiator cap.
2. Open the radiator cap, open the drain nut (without open the cap, the coolant flow out slow).

3. Use running tap to the radiator and let it flow for a while.
4. Cleaning the reservoir tank.
5. Tighten back the drain nut.
6. Pour in coolant to the raditor. (What type of coolant is up to you, can use ready-use, or you get the coolant to mix, 15%-20% coolant ratio to the pure/distilled water, or you can use waterwetter).

7. Start the bike, throttle abit, off engine, pour in coolant again if the level drop. Repeat again until the coolant level maintain full.

8. Close the radiator cap.
9. Pour in coolant to the reserviour tank.

mayi know how to flush the coolent reservior tank?

[hmm_]

so wads the cost of flushing coolant and using waterwetter? and which motodiam has waterwetter?

[d0n^]

Originally posted by ProjectD@Mar 20 2005, 09:45 PM
mayi know how to flush the coolent reservior tank?

so u intend to flush the coolant reservoir only?
or the whole cooling system?

if coolant reservoir tank only......then u juz drain out whatever coolant u have in yr reservoir and take the whole reservoir out and slowly clean
then after that put back and topup the reservoir

[d0n^]

Originally posted by hmm_@Mar 27 2005, 12:15 AM
so wads the cost of flushing coolant and using waterwetter? and which motodiam has waterwetter?

waterwetter $20+ for a bottle that can last u for many times of coolant change
distilled water = cheap cheap

i believe motorX carries waterwetter

[ahyao]

where to get engine ice??? anybody help pls??

[hmm_]

Originally posted by d0n^@Mar 27 2005, 02:45 AM
waterwetter $20+ for a bottle that can last u for many times of coolant change
distilled water = cheap cheap

i believe motorX carries waterwetter

i dunno how to change and flush coolant leh....u know? help me do it lah....haha...

[lowiq30]

Originally posted by ahyao@Mar 27 2005, 09:43 AM
where to get engine ice??? anybody help pls??

You can buy Engine Ice at Mah motors,..It is the bike shop in front
of Sim Lim tower.

[d0n^]

Originally posted by hmm_@Mar 27 2005, 03:44 PM
i dunno how to change and flush coolant leh....u know? help me do it lah....haha...

i agar know
gonna do coolant change for my bike @ my hse MSCP after exams
if u got the materials e.g waterwetter etc then can join in too lor
but i can only tell u agar what to do lar...then u muz do yrself or else i become free maid liaoz

[frz]

i heard that waterwetter can add or top up to old coolant (used waterwetter) when the effect of the coolant have lowered isnt?

[BuZZBeaM]

any1 using waterwetter + distilled water has any side effects?
like gunk buildup?

[ivant]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Apr 12 2005, 01:06 AM
any1 using waterwetter + distilled water has any side effects?
like gunk buildup?

Waterwetter + distilled water actually helps remove some deposits from the radiator system. But this onlie happens if your cooling system is neglected and full of deposits in the first place.

Some time ago, i flushed the cooling system of my friend's bike. I flushed his cooling system twice with a 50:50 vinegar/water solution and finally top up with waterwetter. Though alot of gunk was removed from the flushing, apparently it did not remove all of it. Few days later, His bike experienced a loss of power and it easily overheats, spitting out coolant. Turned out his coolant pump is clogged with deposits. Another flush was done and that solved the problem.

I would advice that if you just made the switch to waterwetter, monitor the level and condition of your coolant(color and the presence of any suspended material) closely. If there is any abnormality, do a second flush.

[S750WP]

For a proper flush I normally drain off the coolant and flush with tap water till the water runs clean, then took out the radiator to drain out the old coolant which might trap there. Also I will remove the reserve coolant reservoir and flush it. Finally assemble everyting and top up with waterwetter mixed with distilled water.

Just found out from discovery channel today normal tap water, which have impurities in then will make it boil over, for distilled water it will not because all the impurities are rid from the water.

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by ivant@Apr 12 2005, 04:24 AM
Waterwetter + distilled water actually helps remove some deposits from the radiator system. But this onlie happens if your cooling system is neglected and full of deposits in the first place.

Some time ago, i flushed the cooling system of my friend's bike. I flushed his cooling system twice with a 50:50 vinegar/water solution and finally top up with waterwetter. Though alot of gunk was removed from the flushing, apparently it did not remove all of it. Few days later, His bike experienced a loss of power and it easily overheats, spitting out coolant. Turned out his coolant pump is clogged with deposits. Another flush was done and that solved the problem.

I would advice that if you just made the switch to waterwetter, monitor the level and condition of your coolant(color and the presence of any suspended material) closely. If there is any abnormality, do a second flush.

one year old bike shouldnt have tis problem rite?
so far so good.. hmm so i jus top up with waterwetter+ distllled water when level in my reservoir went down?

[MrLau]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 12 2005, 04:35 AM
Just found out from discovery channel today normal tap water, which have impurities in then will make it boil over, for distilled water it will not because all the impurities are rid from the water.

Distilled water boil at 100C.
Distilled water with Glycol boil at 115C.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by MrLau@Apr 12 2005, 03:23 PM
Distilled water boil at 100C.
Distilled water with Glycol boil at 115C.

Try this, put a glass of tap water and one glass of distilled water in the microwave oven to boil.

The tap water will bubble when reach 100 deg c and distilled water will not. Saw it on discovery chanel. The distilled water will continue to heat above 100 deg c, even w/o additional of any solution, the term is called latent heat, if I did not remember wrongly.

[ivant]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Apr 12 2005, 10:35 AM
one year old bike shouldnt have tis problem rite?
so far so good.. hmm so i jus top up with waterwetter+ distllled water when level in my reservoir went down?

One yr old bike shouldn't be too bad. My friend's bike is 6 yr old liao..

I assume you hav made the switch to water wetter. So, if you dun encounter anything abnormal, just top up the reserve coolant reservoir to the appropriate level can liao.

[ivant]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 12 2005, 10:28 PM
Try this, put a glass of tap water and one glass of distilled water in the microwave  oven to boil.

The tap water will bubble when reach 100 deg c and distilled water will not. Saw it on discovery chanel. The distilled water will continue to heat above 100 deg c, even w/o additional of any solution, the term is called latent heat, if I did not remember wrongly.

On normal circumstances, tap water will boil at a higher temperature than distilled water.

The experiment you noted was on superheated water. You can superheat clean, still water to above its boiling point via minimizing nucleation sites(eg. hot spots, impurities and rough edges of container). This is why the experiment will use distilled water(no impurities), microwave(no hot spots) and glass container(very smooth surface).

This kinda condition is impossible in a bike's cooling system

anyway.....

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by il4@Apr 12 2005, 01:45 PM
you are using glyco in your cooling system now?

glyco???
im using waterwetter now

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by ivant@Apr 12 2005, 11:22 PM


I assume you hav made the switch to water wetter. So, if you dun encounter anything abnormal, just top up the reserve coolant reservoir to the appropriate level can liao.

top up with waterwetter + distilled water or jus e waterwetter?

[ivant]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Apr 13 2005, 01:26 AM
top up with waterwetter + distilled water or jus e waterwetter?

waterwetter + distilled water