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  • Honda Civic EG-6

    14 10.07%
  • Nissan Skyline GT-R32 V-spec II

    46 33.09%
  • Mazada RX-7 FD3S

    20 14.39%
  • Toyota AE86 Trueno

    5 3.60%
  • Nissan Sileighty RPS13

    4 2.88%
  • Mitsubishi Evolution III CE9A

    20 14.39%
  • Subaru Impreza STi Ver.6 GC8

    27 19.42%
  • Toyota AE86 Levin

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    my fav car.....

    mazda rx7FD

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Mar 31 2005, 07:01 PM
    heard tat honda civic SIR can beat an EVo....any comments?
    u mean on a straight or wat????

     

     
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    in terms of pickup...

    "But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth."

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 1 2005, 08:14 PM
    in terms of pickup...
    In the civics dreams.....
    Unless it is a very heavily modded Civic SIR but definately not the stock SIR.
    Stock SIR 0-100km/h = 7.2s ( which is very good for a 1.6 NA car)
    Stock EVO 8 0-100km/h = 5.1s (2s is about 3-4 lamp post difference)
    Saw with my own eyes, Civic with a heavyly 2litre engine winning WRXs on the 40 tiang.
    But loses to the EVOs cos basically EVO is much lighter then the rexs and has very very minimum Turbo Lag.
    A stock DC5 can cream a stock 220bhp rex flat but not the Evo
    A modded up DC5 might win a stock Evo on sprints

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    Originally posted by STi@Apr 3 2005, 12:05 AM
    In the civics dreams.....
    Unless it is a very heavily modded Civic SIR but definately not the stock SIR.
    Stock SIR 0-100km/h = 7.2s ( which is very good for a 1.6 NA car)
    Stock EVO 8 0-100km/h = 5.1s (2s is about 3-4 lamp post difference)
    Saw with my own eyes, Civic with a heavyly 2litre engine winning WRXs on the 40 tiang.
    But loses to the EVOs cos basically EVO is much lighter then the rexs and has very very minimum Turbo Lag.
    A stock DC5 can cream a stock 220bhp rex flat but not the Evo
    A modded up DC5 might win a stock Evo on sprints
    how abt a modded EG6?Is much lighter,perhaps it can overtake an EVOs.

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 3 2005, 09:34 AM
    how abt a modded EG6?Is much lighter,perhaps it can overtake an EVOs.
    Mybe a stock Evo. Definately not the modded ones.
    The race i mentioned was a Modded EG6 with 2 litre engine or the B18C 1.8 Type R engine (can't really remember). The EG6 makan lots of rexs but Still kena Maken by the Evos. Civics eatting rexs are common due to power to weight and rexs are using Boxer engines which when the turbo lags, the power is Fu*ked!! But the Evos are using In line 4 engines and much lighter then the rexs and thus very minimum lag esp now the MR is using Titanium Turbos thus making it ver very much difficult for civis to makan them.
    Remember no matter how hard or how light the civic mod itself, it's still only a FF car. And FF cars has it's litmit due to the chassis structure esp the civic has very very weak chassis structure.(Honda themselves admiited it as a manufacture fault after tons of EGs break into 2 at the part just behind the front wheel) U dun see Japanese FF cars having more then 220Bhp stock. It's for a reason. The DC5 and Euro R are 220bhp But the potential of their engines can go much much more but they did not do it is of course for a reasons. If u notice those professionals that mod their FF cars over 220bhpo have very strong chassis strengthen process like Roll cage and add additional weilding to the original chassis struture.... Only the Continentail cars like the alfa GTA has 250bhp and Volvo S80 T6 with 280bhp BUT after tons of R&D to strengthen the chassis and the automobile world call this a technological breakthru for a FF car to be able to take and pass such high BHP....
    In other words over modded yr civic will cause the car to be uncontrollable. cos for the civic esp, the potential of the B series engine, the engine can be modded to much more the chassis can take it.
    Hope this helps....

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    Very well informative.
    But why does the new STI version has onli 265Bhp as compared to the 1998 models which has a whoppin power of 280Bhp?

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 7 2005, 08:46 PM
    Very well informative.
    But why does the new STI version has onli 265Bhp as compared to the 1998 models which has a whoppin power of 280Bhp?
    Check out the weights of the different models and u'll understand y the difference in HP.
    7ponnds = 1 House Power lost. so if u too heavy also make a diff .
    the newer rexs are more into safty and handling then power.
    1998 STIs GC8 - 1,270kg
    2004 STIs MY05 - 1,715kg.

    A whooping nearly 300kg difference. That's a lot of HP lost. Besides The Engine EJ20 is still the same.

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    Originally posted by STi@Apr 7 2005, 09:37 PM
    Check out the weights of the different models and u'll understand y the difference in HP.
    7ponnds = 1 House Power lost. so if u too heavy also make a diff .
    the newer rexs are more into safty and handling then power.
    1998 STIs GC8 - 1,270kg
    2004 STIs MY05 - 1,715kg.

    A whooping nearly 300kg difference. That's a lot of HP lost. Besides The Engine EJ20 is still the same.
    them look like it i may hv choosen the older models one of the best.

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 8 2005, 01:39 AM
    them look like it i may hv choosen the older models one of the best.
    Yup..
    Lesser lag also. Can put BOV to lessen the lag for the GC8 as the senor is position before the Place u can place the BOV unlike the GDB it's at the trottle body... More derestrited also cos dun have the EURO 3 emmision standard sh*t!!! kekekeeke
    Good luck in finding one
    Will inform u if my fren wanna sell his. also 1998 but it's the Ver V Type R 2 door version.

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    well, if the older version of Evos are well equipped with misfirin system tuned by those WRC rally racers, is it reali true?

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 9 2005, 12:50 AM
    well, if the older version of Evos are well equipped with misfirin system tuned by those WRC rally racers, is it reali true?
    Nope.. U got to tune yrself with proper mod to get back fire......

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    Originally posted by STi@Apr 9 2005, 02:28 PM
    Nope.. U got to tune yrself with proper mod to get back fire......
    may i knoe is it advisable to do it legal in SG?Since den i hvent seen real action yet.

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 10 2005, 04:12 PM
    may i knoe is it advisable to do it legal in SG?Since den i hvent seen real action yet.
    MIsfiring or Back Fire is not very healthy for yr engine.
    Reason why the WRC cars Misfire is not purposely tune for that. As rally cars are usaully very high reving due to keeping the traction and thus the Air Fuel Mixture is very Rich to prevent ceasing of the piston. Thus u notice they always back fir after a out of a Drift is because before they drift in a corner they will blip or the sequential gearbox will automatic do tat and thus fuel goes unburn. the moment they engage gear and yet at a high rev, misfire/back fire with the flame happens. It doesn't add any additional power as it is a common misunderstanding just unburn fuel thats all.
    But of course it looks cool when u back fire on the streets lah..
    It's not illegal to back fire as it can happen to any wrongly turned cars that are too rich. BUT it's a sign to show the ROVs that u have a very highly mod engine under the hood as usually only highy mod cars misfire due to the richness of the Air/Fuel Ratio.....

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    so to the extent it seems it's not reali legal on streets.
    The newer models of EVos hit a max of 220km juz a full tank,is it true?
    How abt the older 1998 Wrx?

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    i wonder can all these car modified like pro racer?
    Are they legal or not?Big exhaust.....

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@May 16 2005, 07:32 PM
    i wonder can all these car modified like pro racer?
    Are they legal or not?Big exhaust.....
    All cars can be modified to become like pro racers... But question is Do u have the dough??
    U can strenghthen the chassis(Chassis modification illegal), Lighten the body(remove a insulation and unnessarry seats, carbon fibre bonnet and booot which is illegal), remove Un neccessary items like Aircon( can u take the heat), radio, engine mods (illegal), Free flow exhaust (Legal ones are like sh*t), Plastics Windows and windscreen), Carbon Brake disc, Bla bla....
    And can u stand Fines after fines???

    Pro racers have sponsors.... We dun...

    Then the big Question!!! Can we handle such cars?? Are we skilled enough compared to the pros that spend hours a day in the track to handle such power??
    Hornestly very minority of the 225bhp WRX owners can actually handle the FULL potential of the car yet mod it up to higher BHP... Ever wonder what is the WRX best for?? But y are pple concern about 0-100 for the rex? How high the BHP for the rex?
    Why no one or few ever ask How to Increase my Tourque for my rex? Hornestly this is wat the rex is for... Mid range tourque!! It's built for the Tracks and circuits, rallys, windy roads. Not Straight road sprint, century sprint... It may be one of the fastest in Singapore roads.. But a well done civic can cream the rex anytime in century sprint!! But never on track... different usage...

    Different cars have different capabilities... U need to know what u wan then look for that car that u need....

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    ho hum, call me an ah pek, i still prefer a Merc SL ....

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    sti.. seems like u're very knowlegdeable on these AWD turbocharged machines.. i'm keen in knowing more of these cars.. mind telling me the otr price and running cost of these cars? as well as what are the best money:handlingower:economic amongth these cars =D


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    Originally posted by Fatgrunt@Jun 26 2005, 01:23 PM
    sti.. seems like u're very knowlegdeable on these AWD turbocharged machines.. i'm keen in knowing more of these cars.. mind telling me the otr price and running cost of these cars? as well as what are the best money:handlingower:economic amongth these cars =D
    Sorry..
    I can't advise u on the OTr of cars as i'm not a car sales man.
    If u ask me, WRX is a worth buy. 4wd, 225bhp, safe and tough chassis, all less than 100k... Full of after market mods too...
    if u like NA, DC5 is also good.
    depends on wat u wan. Turbo cars are never good in Petrol comsumption.
    PM me if u need more info on turbo cars.
    as for NA cars, think Normal Aspirated will be in a better position to advise u..

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    Originally posted by STi@Jun 29 2005, 04:01 AM
    Sorry..
    I can't advise u on the OTr of cars as i'm not a car sales man.
    If u ask me, WRX is a worth buy. 4wd, 225bhp, safe and tough chassis, all less than 100k... Full of after market mods too...
    if u like NA, DC5 is also good.
    depends on wat u wan. Turbo cars are never good in Petrol comsumption.
    PM me if u need more info on turbo cars.
    as for NA cars, think Normal Aspirated will be in a better position to advise u..
    STI go change ur nick to "Turbo Charge" lah
    then Normal Aspirated will be ur good buddy n next time I will log in as "Supercharged"


     

     
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    Originally posted by spy622@Jun 30 2005, 02:31 AM
    STI go change ur nick to "Turbo Charge" lah
    then Normal Aspirated will be ur good buddy n next time I will log in as "Supercharged"
    hehehe
    Wah..
    Super Charged sia......
    Let's see. a AMG 55 for ya ?

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    Originally posted by STi@Jun 30 2005, 03:48 AM
    hehehe
    Wah..
    Super Charged sia......
    Let's see. a AMG 55 for ya ?
    no lah AMG55 is too much of a dream liao...some supercharge lorry will do liao hahahaha


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    my favorite 911 turbo, GT2 & SL500 not in the list
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    well as u can see, these cars do not cost more than 200k.

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    whahaha..put many many ...but Skyline GTR will always beat u'll nytime nydae...put turbo, BOV, NOZ..(actually no need)...can already...


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    all lose already liao...
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    skyline is indeed very gd frd mod till 450bhp,damm fast & gd in concering
    me wanted to smell wat pertrol he pump aslo cant

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    Originally posted by ProjectD@Jul 5 2005, 01:59 PM
    well as u can see, these cars do not cost more than 200k.
    oops...didn't realise that! my bad
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    no prbs.

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    I think the "backfire" the dude further up was asking about is the anti-lag system. I've only met one person who used to run anti-lag on sg roads, but that was years ago. Can hear him coming from a mile away. Does anyone still do it?
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    Originally posted by myxilplix@Nov 8 2005, 12:39 PM
    I think the "backfire" the dude further up was asking about is the anti-lag system. I've only met one person who used to run anti-lag on sg roads, but that was years ago. Can hear him coming from a mile away. Does anyone still do it?
    with tat thunderous noise, think it will scare all TPs.

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    backfire? isit fire spit out from exhaust pipe?

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    Seems like these car in the list are older than 2004, haha. Well my dream cars are the series of 55AMGs and the latest 63AMGs from benz but well, dreams.
    For these more reliastic ownership jap cars i kinda prefer the older models like the GC8 WRX and the DC2 integra as they feel more of a driver's car and raw compared to their newer counterparts. Newer models are getting heavier and not to mention driver involvement is less focused.
    With my financial situation, i can only look at the EG6 civic as an enthusaist.
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    muay hahah, estate version some more

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    anyone view the tokoyo drift...

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    I dun mind a Nissan Stager for a Toy Car...But thats juz me...
    Its not how you pick your nose...Its where you flick the BOOGER!!!

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    i saw a car wif misfiring system b4.. and he turn corner the tyre like screeching.. lol.. cool & fast..! den the exhaust "poom poom" wah.. super loud and got blue flames come out.. chio lo.. btw.. not SG car.. it's JHR plate..

    btw it's an white evo 4 wif those scanning undercarriage neons + those tp strobe lights blinking like a ROV..

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    Originally posted by kurarensu@Nov 1 2006, 04:44 PM
    i saw a car wif misfiring system b4.. and he turn corner the tyre like screeching.. lol.. cool & fast..! den the exhaust "poom poom" wah.. super loud and got blue flames come out.. chio lo.. btw.. not SG car.. it's JHR plate..

    btw it's an white evo 4 wif those scanning undercarriage neons + those tp strobe lights blinking like a ROV..
    wow i hv nv gotten the chance to witness something like that.
    i love dividends.

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    Originally posted by 299@April 03, 2005 09:34 am
    how abt a modded EG6?Is much lighter,perhaps it can overtake an EVOs.
    hmm..i haf a different view. drop a H series or K series engine..finish it up with a quad trottle and rechip ecu...eg6 is well enuff to take on any evos that cum on the way..be it mod or stock.

    as for wrx...hmmm..civic win rex is a very common thing..no need to compare..

    for me...hmmm...a bit different...wahaha...kana tear by evo 9 after we approach a straight road...but the rex even more behind..lolz..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siao_Liao View Post
    hmm..i haf a different view. drop a H series or K series engine..finish it up with a quad trottle and rechip ecu...eg6 is well enuff to take on any evos that cum on the way..be it mod or stock.

    as for wrx...hmmm..civic win rex is a very common thing..no need to compare..

    for me...hmmm...a bit different...wahaha...kana tear by evo 9 after we approach a straight road...but the rex even more behind..lolz..
    how do differentiate whether it's a H series or K series engine?

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    I dun think SIR can beat evo. evo 2L with turbo charger. SIR 1.6L only. Even SIR fit TURBO also 1.6L.

     

     
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    Does anyone actually realise that all turbo cars come with a stock BOV?
    The sound u hear actually just makes u feel faster, it doesnt really make u much faster. It is not faster because of the bov, but some people increase their boost, the stock BOV's reed valve cannot take it, thats why change to aftermarket BOV. Most stock BOV that comes with turbo charged cars recirculate the air thats why no phsssssssst. Those AM ones come with a port for some air to be released into the atmosphere thats why got the phssst sound.

    As cool as a AM BOV sounds, it doesnt make a car go faster...
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    Its like how on some cars the end can big big but bhp gains neligible, because they dont remove the catalyic converter, which is the biggest restrain in the exhaust system. The real bhp gains come from electronic upgrades like ECU remap/rechip/piggy backs and increasing boost. The mods that make alot of noise usually dont add much BHP
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    sir mybe can beat that evo in terms of drag pick up....but after the turbos up evo all the wayyyyy...turbo a bit slow..try nitro

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    Quote Originally Posted by STi View Post
    All cars can be modified to become like pro racers... But question is Do u have the dough??
    U can strenghthen the chassis(Chassis modification illegal), Lighten the body(remove a insulation and unnessarry seats, carbon fibre bonnet and booot which is illegal), remove Un neccessary items like Aircon( can u take the heat), radio, engine mods (illegal), Free flow exhaust (Legal ones are like sh*t), Plastics Windows and windscreen), Carbon Brake disc, Bla bla....
    And can u stand Fines after fines???

    Pro racers have sponsors.... We dun...

    Then the big Question!!! Can we handle such cars?? Are we skilled enough compared to the pros that spend hours a day in the track to handle such power??
    Hornestly very minority of the 225bhp WRX owners can actually handle the FULL potential of the car yet mod it up to higher BHP... Ever wonder what is the WRX best for?? But y are pple concern about 0-100 for the rex? How high the BHP for the rex?
    Why no one or few ever ask How to Increase my Tourque for my rex? Hornestly this is wat the rex is for... Mid range tourque!! It's built for the Tracks and circuits, rallys, windy roads. Not Straight road sprint, century sprint... It may be one of the fastest in Singapore roads.. But a well done civic can cream the rex anytime in century sprint!! But never on track... different usage...

    Different cars have different capabilities... U need to know what u wan then look for that car that u need....
    waa...you are right....you know a lot about this cars....

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    Quote Originally Posted by STi View Post
    All cars can be modified to become like pro racers... But question is Do u have the dough??
    U can strenghthen the chassis(Chassis modification illegal), Lighten the body(remove a insulation and unnessarry seats, carbon fibre bonnet and booot which is illegal), remove Un neccessary items like Aircon( can u take the heat), radio, engine mods (illegal), Free flow exhaust (Legal ones are like sh*t), Plastics Windows and windscreen), Carbon Brake disc, Bla bla....
    And can u stand Fines after fines???

    Pro racers have sponsors.... We dun...

    Then the big Question!!! Can we handle such cars?? Are we skilled enough compared to the pros that spend hours a day in the track to handle such power??
    Hornestly very minority of the 225bhp WRX owners can actually handle the FULL potential of the car yet mod it up to higher BHP... Ever wonder what is the WRX best for?? But y are pple concern about 0-100 for the rex? How high the BHP for the rex?
    Why no one or few ever ask How to Increase my Tourque for my rex? Hornestly this is wat the rex is for... Mid range tourque!! It's built for the Tracks and circuits, rallys, windy roads. Not Straight road sprint, century sprint... It may be one of the fastest in Singapore roads.. But a well done civic can cream the rex anytime in century sprint!! But never on track... different usage...

    Different cars have different capabilities... U need to know what u wan then look for that car that u need....
    i always thought that evo,s204wrx,skyline,rx7 are always over rated in terms of performance.speed,torque,bhp etc...can you tell me more about Volkswagen GTI sports,mini cooper s,alpha romeo 3 door cars or any other euro cars that is same level with those japanese performance cars..

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    Just when to Order a Lancer EX today... waiting for loan..

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