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    my friend told mi... don buy frm person bikes... coz my friend's friend bought a sp and later found out that the piston and some other thing r CHIONG wans...!! anyone got this kind of thing b4.... like to share them...?


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    u buy from motorshops no means that the things will not be chiong.... When ever u go and get a 2nd hand bike. Best is to find someone who knows abit of bike and help u view.. Or get it to ur trusted motorshop for a view.. Getting from person may be abit cheaper then u get from the shops. But u won't have the assurance.. Pros and Cons...


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    What Yzf_R1 says are right. Get someone to view the bike. Getting bike from owner is cheaper than those in the Motortiam..

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    my friend say motor shop mostly okie wan.. is ppl..!! like piston... very hard to check... rite?


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    Originally posted by totalpet@Nov 25 2004, 04:08 AM
    my friend say motor shop mostly okie wan.. is ppl..!! like piston... very hard to check... rite?
    Then how u know the motorshop give u that piston is good?? Will u open and check? Or will u jsut take his 'Very good' ah word?
    Its the same as to is it motorshop or person to person sales...


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    My friend bought his S4 Ver S only to find out that the Battery + Air Filter are CHIONG wan...

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    Originally posted by totalpet@Nov 25 2004, 04:08 AM
    my friend say motor shop mostly okie wan.. is ppl..!! like piston... very hard to check... rite?
    Then you go buy from rmotorshop a new bike cause you can be assured everything is original.
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    my friend told mi... don buy frm person bikes... coz my friend's friend bought a sp and later found out that the piston and some other thing r CHIONG wans...!! anyone got this kind of thing b4.... like to share them...?
    like tat u r saying all seller in person r trying to bluff their way out? ALL u mean? dan motorshop boss oso everytime keep on saying tat "ya tis is gd man, a lot of ppl wan to buy oso faster pay deposit 1st", "everyting is stock except carb change to racing carb, piston regular service b4, blar blar blar..." the carb they can place another going to "die" carb inside and say it's racing carb cos it's not a yellow knob so not original and the piston tink going to jam soon when they say regular servicing...

    and when u buy 2nd fr motorshop, they say they will do service for u b4 passing the bike to u... wat kind of servicing they did? open up everyting do some show and tat's it? so ALL personal seller cant believe and ALL motorshop can believe... tat's ur conclusion...
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    ya i u r right man

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    I will look at it this way

    If you buy from a private seller, it will cost probably at least a few $hundreds less than the motor shops.
    If you take over the bike and it has problems, you can use the money saved for repair. If there is no problems, then you save that sum of money
    There is a chance that you might spent even more money than what you would have bought from the bike shop. But if this is the case, why didn't u test and check the bike thoroughly even before taking over?!?!?

    I feel that the condition of the bike you received from private seller will depend on his/her intergrity as well as your own luck.
    For e.g. the battery was fine under the seller, but it probably was at the last 1,2 months of its charge. I think its just ur hard luck that its ur turn to change?
    I was looking at a bike a few days ago, the owner only told me the IU unit spoil WHEN i took out my cashchard to test the IU.

    Certain parts that are chiong or damanged may be because of the previous owners and not the one directly selling to you.

    Having say all these, i was very sway to kena a persistant rectifier problem that occured one month after i took over my bike
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    my friend say motor shop mostly okie wan.. is ppl..!! like piston... very hard to check... rite?
    I cannot stop luffing when I saw that...

    Anyway... Its not true... Experience yourself but that'll be a costly throughout.
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    Originally posted by totalpet@Nov 25 2004, 01:27 AM
    my friend told mi... don buy frm person bikes... coz my friend's friend bought a sp and later found out that the piston and some other thing r CHIONG wans...!! anyone got this kind of thing b4.... like to share them...?
    cannot say like that 1. not all person like that 1. dont take 1 bamboo hit everyone down to water. is not fair to honest seller.for wat i knw bike shop take in bike, park 1 side then got buyer come look look c c if bike ok then push out the bike to him/her. that all, story finish. wat they did at he bike ha??!

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    if u really like a bike with fully stock item, y not buy a 1st hand bike?
    2nd hand bike sure have added this n that to the bike

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    I once sold my bike to a newbie and he took the bike before the transfer. Kena summon, call him to settle but he did not and in the end have to go to AXS station to pay, feel like kena conned by a newbie. So does this mean private seller are bad, you figure it out yourself
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    Originally posted by Boon6600@Nov 25 2004, 09:06 PM
    I once sold my bike to a newbie and he took the bike before the transfer. Kena summon, call him to settle but he did not and in the end have to go to AXS station to pay, feel like kena conned by a newbie. So does this mean private seller are bad, you figure it out yourself
    Well,clearly it was your mistake for letting him take the bike before the transfer was done.......its a lesson learnt,take it in your stride.....i also had and going to have a fair deal of unscruplous tiams and private seller...if you ask me its all abt your luck
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    The KEY WORD here is TRUST...

    Do you have them?

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    Originally posted by MiCmAsta@Nov 26 2004, 04:01 AM
    The KEY WORD here is TRUST...

    Do you have them?
    yup, agree agree. i get my bike frm private seller. when we proceed a transaction i did not knw bike shop will ask for agreement fee cost S$200. then the seller volunteer pay for me first, i pay him back later. we just met twice only.

    like bambi18 said is ur LUCK n MiCmAsta said TRUST.

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    Originally posted by bambi18@Nov 26 2004, 03:21 AM
    Well,clearly it was your mistake for letting him take the bike before the transfer was done.......its a lesson learnt,take it in your stride.....i also had and going to have a fair deal of unscruplous tiams and private seller...if you ask me its all abt your luck
    tat is why I lan lan have to pay up, if not court case how. As what other say, trust is the word but sometimes kena play by the other party. So it is just a lesson learn as buying from a private seller or from motor tiam. If in doubt, don't buy.
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    so in conclusion, totalpet... u r a real noob and may i noe how old r u cos u dun seems to noe how to tink... ur fren is the same case oso... or mayb more worse dan u...
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    what's worse? shops that con people of bikes with no servicing or previous owners that con people of bikes with no servicing? best is to get 1st hand. i regretted buying my 2nd hand bike, shop chopped me like an italian blender and i had to get servicing done myself. luckily i sold my bike (i serviced it first)
    my advice is to save a bit more and get first hand. first hand bikes rarely have problems.
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    Originally posted by Pierrot@Nov 28 2004, 02:27 PM
    what's worse? shops that con people of bikes with no servicing or previous owners that con people of bikes with no servicing? best is to get 1st hand. i regretted buying my 2nd hand bike, shop chopped me like an italian blender and i had to get servicing done myself. luckily i sold my bike (i serviced it first)
    my advice is to save a bit more and get first hand. first hand bikes rarely have problems.
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    Originally posted by Alex31@Nov 28 2004, 02:37 PM
    Hi Brother,

    The key word is "Budget". Who dun want new bike/car/hse/gal!
    Very true indeed...

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    Originally posted by Boon6600@Nov 25 2004, 09:06 PM
    I once sold my bike to a newbie and he took the bike before the transfer. Kena summon, call him to settle but he did not and in the end have to go to AXS station to pay, feel like kena conned by a newbie. So does this mean private seller are bad, you figure it out yourself
    count yourself lucky. If he had killed someone on the road with your bike, you would have been in deeper sh*t especially if he had no proper insurance.

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    Originally posted by MiCmAsta@Nov 25 2004, 04:23 AM
    My friend bought his S4 Ver S only to find out that the Battery + Air Filter are CHIONG wan...
    Battery chiong one.... how to get chiong battery? I never heard of Honda battery, only Yuasa, etc...

    Chiong products doesn't means not ok. It may probably decrease the performance. Just make sure the replacement is suitable for the bike ok liao, original or not up to individual.

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    Well i believe buying from bike shop is safer even though the shop owners jack up the price. At least its a peace of mind. I got my 1st bike SP from another seller. I bring my friend with me who i thot is very "expert". In the end the SP damn chui, need to go overhaul somemore cost me extra $$$. But who can i blame? Blame myself lor for being so newbie and stupid. There is a saying, to be old and wise, u must be young and stupid. Fall down and climb up then u will learn.

    Back to main topic, buy from bike shop anything wrong with the bike go back shop KPKB. Thats what i did and they inspect my bike for free. Yippee...

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    good luck

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    shop oso can sell chiong 1 .. but most of them will not say anything about tt ..
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    agree with what edwardthy said ....

    to be old and wise, u must be young and stupid

    i'm in the cat young and stupid .....

    still make mistakes ....

    but i know one day i'll be in the cat

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    this kind of thing can only suck thumb .... doesnt matter who u get from ... as long as u pay the money ... transaction is done ... agree some things are hard to check ..... like my fren ... his mech tell him his bike gt major crash to the front before ... altough outside okie .... but inside the repair the mech see n he know liao .... but then hor .... gt tell tale signs .... the bike is original paintwork but the head the colour scheme half wrong ... haha ....
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    i think buy frm pple safer ..
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    i think dun buy is the best, no problems.

     

     
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    i think buy new bike if cannot dun buy. Sure no problem... suisui .. gt prob gt warranty
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    The main thing whether buying from shop or ppl is knowledge. Do a little research on buying 2nd bikes.

    - Wat to look out for?
    - wat are the common signs of crashes?
    - How to see if alignment is out?
    - How to check for engine leaks?

    If not sure, bring along a friend who is truly has some knowldege on bikes, not hear from friend this and that.

    If buying 2nd hand from a shop and they dont allow u to even start the bike, and keep repeating everything is ok, no problem one, try not to buy and look for better options.

    Buying from a private owner allows you to test ride the bike (most of the time). You can tell alot from test riding a bike but this also depends on experience. Also, somethings you just can't tell from riding a few rounds in a carpark. Please know that by testing riding someones bike is also risky, as you are not covered by insurance and it is against the law.

    Understand that 2nd bikes are used bikes. Nothing will be perfect as wear and tear is an unavoidable fact. Some bike shops will change for you, some don't no matter how much you KPKB. No where is it written in your agreement that you signed that they must do so.

    At the end of the day, knowledge is key (+ a bit of luck) in purchasing a relatively good condition 2nd bike. And be patient. Most ppl who got rotten bikes are normally those who are too anxious and excited (or plain unlucky).

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    I bought a exhuast header recently, the seller in SBF keep reassuring me it's L model . .confirm confirm.. He assured me earlier to refund my money if not suitable.. but then after i bought it and bring to me bike shop, it turned out to be a R model which wasn't suitable for my bike. it had the under belly bracket sawn off also. but after that he "disappeared" liao. kenna this kind of seller who disappear in real life but active in SBF very sian..

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    I think is all based on luck .....u can buy lousy motorbike from both motordiam and direct seller also. It is only if things go wrong u can go back motordiam complain kpkb they do it up for you if they are good...........if u kenna those sebeh jialat one they will ask u pay as they blame it on u who spoil e bike even though they knew they sold u a lemon............as for direct seller once name transfer they bochap already u are on your own.

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