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    Any brudders riding a magna750 here?

    How much average is a 2nd hand FP plate Magna? Saw a FP plate selling @ $5.5k, average condition.

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    There is one on sales at the 'Garage Sales' Segment. Not the latest one, but the older Magna 750, 4 pipes aiming the sky. Do check it out if you are keen.
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    Originally posted by Intruder@Apr 26 2005, 01:18 AM
    There is one on sales at the 'Garage Sales' Segment. Not the latest one, but the older Magna 750, 4 pipes aiming the sky. Do check it out if you are keen.
    they call that model magna V45...nice...
    wanna ride with madness?

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    That was my childhood 'Legendary' bike. There then 1 nvr saw a solid casted wheel b4 with 4 chio pipes aiming at the sky. Too bad, if to buy now, worry that it will gives many mechanical problems. Heng Motor got one for sales mths back, not sure it still ard.
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    Originally posted by nitro@Apr 25 2005, 10:05 PM
    Any brudders riding a magna750 here?

    How much average is a 2nd hand FP plate Magna? Saw a FP plate selling @ $5.5k, average condition.
    thanks folks for so many replies.

    But none has answered my query 8(

    Is an FP plate reasonably worthed $5.5K based on an average market value?


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    i rode the Magna 750 when it hit the roads 10 years ago.

    paid $21.5 for it brand new....

    this is the most solid cruiser, in my opinion.

    the sporty tune of the 4 exhaust and the quick revving engine producing more than 80 horses...pick up is really blazing and cruisibility excellent. took the bike up north a few times. even with a pillion, the magna 750 proved its versatility.

    if condition is good $5.5 is alright lah

    did some crazy mods with it, like extending the gas tank by another 5 liters..

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    Cool bike you have there Throttle, just a qns here, how the modded tank? Just wonder if there is any leakage in your memory for as long as you have the bike?

    I managed to located a shop who does enlargement for bike tank but shop owner is very reluctant to do it as he mentioned leakage may occur in short-run from his experience with customer feedbacks.
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    Originally posted by nitro@Apr 25 2005, 10:05 PM
    Any brudders riding a magna750 here?

    How much average is a 2nd hand FP plate Magna? Saw a FP plate selling @ $5.5k, average condition.
    I think the price is slightly on the high side for a FP plated which I assume is of 96-97 year old bike. This is just my opinion which I thought you can get a 750 Shadow ACE at around the same price but newer in term of age.
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    But you get a different type of power with the shadow 750. And you get spoky rims as well.

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    Originally posted by William Tan@Apr 27 2005, 07:27 AM
    But you get a different type of power with the shadow 750. And you get spoky rims as well.
    Of course, Magna is on V4 while Shadow is on V-Twin thus some differences but looking at the petrol consumption with its small tank size of 3.6 gallon which is around 13.6 litre with average achievable distance of around 214km is really not touring friendly even if its using tubeless and V4 engine.

    Shadow 750 on the other hand is using V-Twin with a 3.7 gallon tank which is around 14 litre can achieve around 262km on average although using spoke wheel, we can always seal up the spoke holes and use tubeless tyre.

    The hugh differences are solely on power which Magna definitely win hands down. Other than that, you compensate with comfortness and hugh petrol consumption.
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    Nights How are you my friend? It's been long time seen last meetup. Ok, my view to Shadow and Magna as a bystander. In terms of fuel consumption, mileage i think Shasow 750 win, but put into consideration Shadow got 2 working piston where the Magna got 4.

    There comes the trick, a V4 if properly tuned and set, it can be very effective in terms of quicker response, not to mention power. Power is only how we want it to be. But if a V4 is off tuned it can be quite uncomfortfy.

    MAgna is a shaft driven bike, low maintenance, cleaner rim. But is the shaft gears gives problem during oversea trip, then that is it. Tow it BACK! Heh heh....for Shadow, if proper tools and spares are bring along, it can basically do up on the spot and zoom it goes. Handling wise i got not much experience, maybe Throttle, the Cigar man can enlighten us.

    So both got their beauty loh, depend what we want, for me i would confirm choose a Magna, cos i am crazy abt shaft driven bikes. I love their trustworthy final drive and almost to zero maintenance, with good engine brake.

    For 5.5k, i think it is abit high side. As we all know, many of these bikes Shadows, Steed or Jap's cruisers can be worthless when selling in to bike shop....dann them! So if you pay 5.5k for the magnificent Magna how much they willing to take it back when you want to trade in for other bike. Mine was quoted very low price even i have cleared my installments. I was asking for the Diverson 900. The shop gave me shitty price.....for a fully paid $10500 bike....sianz.
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    Originally posted by nights@Apr 27 2005, 08:38 AM
    we can always seal up the spoke holes and use tubeless tyre.

    I agree on the touring part.

    Regarding the sealing of spoke rims so that it can run on tubeless. I know in the US, this is possible. But do they have a reliable place here in Singapore that does it. If there is, I myself would mind getting a Shadow 750.

    Do let me know if you have any contacts here that does a realiable job of sealing a spoke wheel.

    Many thanks!

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    Nonsense, the Magna750 is better than the Shadow750 in all major areas, touring? I tour with the magna for more than 250km non stop no prob lah...
    fuel consumption is very manageable for my Magna.



    The only thing is that the shadow is a classic design so if you like the classic look than go for shadow. Magna is the modern look. notice that the Harley V-rod is so similar to the magna 250 even? hahah

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    Originally posted by William Tan@Apr 27 2005, 09:23 AM
    I agree on the touring part.

    Regarding the sealing of spoke rims so that it can run on tubeless. I know in the US, this is possible. But do they have a reliable place here in Singapore that does it. If there is, I myself would mind getting a Shadow 750.

    Do let me know if you have any contacts here that does a realiable job of sealing a spoke wheel.

    Many thanks!
    I do have a few places (some are scrambler workshops) in mind that do sealing up of spoke wheel. I got a quote of $80 per rim for sealing up but I m still considering as I have to change my tyres as well which is still fairly new.

    Have to agree with you there about the reliability of the job thus I'm still into researching before committing afterall I will be upgrading my bike soon in near future thus have to consider the worthness of the job.
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    Originally posted by Intruder@Apr 27 2005, 08:57 AM
    Nights How are you my friend? It's been long time seen last meetup. Ok, my view to Shadow and Magna as a bystander. In terms of fuel consumption, mileage i think Shasow 750 win, but put into consideration Shadow got 2 working piston where the Magna got 4.

    There comes the trick, a V4 if properly tuned and set, it can be very effective in terms of quicker response, not to mention power. Power is only how we want it to be. But if a V4 is off tuned it can be quite uncomfortfy.

    MAgna is a shaft driven bike, low maintenance, cleaner rim. But is the shaft gears gives problem during oversea trip, then that is it. Tow it BACK! Heh heh....for Shadow, if proper tools and spares are bring along, it can basically do up on the spot and zoom it goes. Handling wise i got not much experience, maybe Throttle, the Cigar man can enlighten us.

    So both got their beauty loh, depend what we want, for me i would confirm choose a Magna, cos i am crazy abt shaft driven bikes. I love their trustworthy final drive and almost to zero maintenance, with good engine brake.

    For 5.5k, i think it is abit high side. As we all know, many of these bikes Shadows, Steed or Jap's cruisers can be worthless when selling in to bike shop....dann them! So if you pay 5.5k for the magnificent Magna how much they willing to take it back when you want to trade in for other bike. Mine was quoted very low price even i have cleared my installments. I was asking for the Diverson 900. The shop gave me shitty price.....for a fully paid $10500 bike....sianz.
    Oh my...sorry for being slightly confuse overhere, I noticed that you guys are talking about shaft driven which I have read from another website that it is chain driven so which version of the year that the magna 750 are we talking about?

    BTW nitro, the magna you saw is of shaft-driven?

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    Originally posted by Throttle@Apr 27 2005, 10:42 AM
    Nonsense, the Magna750 is better than the Shadow750 in all major areas, touring? I tour with the magna for more than 250km non stop no prob lah...
    fuel consumption is very manageable for my Magna.



    The only thing is that the shadow is a classic design so if you like the classic look than go for shadow. Magna is the modern look. notice that the Harley V-rod is so similar to the magna 250 even? hahah
    Hi Throttle,

    Your 250km is after your modification of tank or? Not sure which year make is your Magna 750 but the review I read is of 1999 thus, reckon for the information on fuel consumption, Shadow Ace win hands down even at high rpm perhaps there is some changes over the year?

    The reason why I said Magna 750 is not as touring friendly as the Shadow Ace 750 is due to the fuel consumption when riding at higher speed as V4 does consume more fuel.

    Other than the above, Magna 750 is a great muscle bike that can outrun a Honda Valkyrie or any big twins.

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    Originally posted by Throttle@Apr 26 2005, 09:29 PM


    this is the most solid cruiser, in my opinion.

    the sporty tune of the 4 exhaust and the quick revving engine producing more than 80 horses...pick up is really blazing and cruisibility excellent.
    ......yes i agree 100%......this is a 'sports bike' disguised in a cruiser body.......sadly it's dated.....
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    no with my big tank I can do about 300++km easily

    difference is not much. just stop and pump lah...

    I tell you , the power and torque of the MAgna will keep you gleeing all all the other cruisers in its class.

    My 1995 Magna750 is Chain driven I remember..?.

    It shares the same engine as the VFR800...basically

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    Oh...it's chain driven.....Sorry mistake made.
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    Originally posted by nights@Apr 27 2005, 10:56 AM
    BTW nitro, the magna you saw is of shaft-driven?

    Hello Intruder bro! Still as usual for me. You going for the Kruzerfest?
    Sori bro i think have made a mistake on the final drive....or is it? Kruzerfest i m not sure whether going or not....depend on certain factors..

    I think this old one is shaft driven.
    [img]http://sg.wrs.yahoo.com/;_ylt=AiswuyrKGXTo7HQplDRl9TIu4gt.;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13q5odakr/EXP=1114662680/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorcyclemaniac.net%2FPictures%2FAngstForumMembers%2FImages%2FMachVIIIs%2520Magna1.jpg[/img]

    The new Magna.
    [img]http://sg.wrs.yahoo.com/;_ylt=AiswuyrKGXTo7HQplDRl9TIu4gt.;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=137cv7lla/EXP=1114662834/**http%3A%2F%2F209.51.150.38%2F%7Eadmin451%2Fauctions%2Fpersonal%2FImages%2Fmagna11.JPG[/img]
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    here's a side angle profile of my big tank'


     

     
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    it had original givi engine guards and saddle bag supports

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    Originally posted by Intruder@Apr 27 2005, 08:57 AM

    For 5.5k, i think it is abit high side. As we all know, many of these bikes Shadows, Steed or Jap's cruisers can be worthless when selling in to bike shop....dann them! So if you pay 5.5k for the magnificent Magna how much they willing to take it back when you want to trade in for other bike.
    What's the reasonable $ for a FP plate?

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    Originally posted by nitro@Apr 27 2005, 10:15 PM
    What's the reasonable $ for a FP plate?
    This i think more experience magna old bird can answer you. Wat i know is usually, bikeshop tends jackup the bike price high. Mine is a very good example, the price they want to take in mine makes me kpkb. Mine i bought 8.8k FS plate, after installment 10.5k, now they want to take in for veri veri low when i aksed if to trade in for a Diverson 900. You can see the diff there loh.

    COE also plays a part. FP plate if i m not wrong is ending soon, but if they renewed the COE for another 10 years then price maybe higher abit. Mileage ran on the bike too plays a part.

    Stability of the bike's price also got to depend on the market demand and popularity of it. So far to see a magna on the road sometime can be difficult.

    Just my 2 cents worth of opinion. Maybe Throttle can show us more detail lighting on the pricing. Mine is the general feel on the pricing only...i maybe wrong.
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    you are absolutely right about that Intruder.

    Just like when I buy a car, if I really like the model and the condition is fabulous with low mileage and from honest owner, I pay a fair bit more, I dont mind.

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    IMHO, they should have kept the shaft drive....... *sigh*
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    Originally posted by william_liu@Apr 28 2005, 10:31 AM
    IMHO, they should have kept the shaft drive....... *sigh*
    Shaft driven will have lower top end if you were to ask me. I personally thought that chain driven is the best final drive for Magna 750 to show its potential power.
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    Chain for the Magna 750 really maxes its power potential .

    shafts better be left for the viragos.....



    a V4 shaft driven would be like a tiger on a leash

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    Where did you see this Magna 750? Know of any other places selling?

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    The V-Max is a V4 with shaft...... Think it worked quite well together!

    Methinks Honda should have upped the cubes to compensate, rather than switching to chain... different people different tastes I suppose!
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    Originally posted by william_liu@Apr 28 2005, 04:04 PM
    The V-Max is a V4 with shaft...... Think it worked quite well together!

    Methinks Honda should have upped the cubes to compensate, rather than switching to chain... different people different tastes I suppose!
    Having shaft on Magna will overkill the bike. Why did I say so? Firstly you have to take into consideration of the overall bike weight and engine capacity. Vmax is on 1200cc while Magna only 750cc, giving Magna a shaft driven will only give it more weight which will ended up losing more top end. In reality, Magna is actually lighter than Vmax thus in my opinion, is senseless to give it a shaft drive. You might want to take a look at the below test.

    HONDA MAGNA
    Wet weight: 539 lbs.
    Wheelbase: 65.0 in.
    Seat height: 28.0
    Engine type: Liquid-cooled 45-degree V-4
    Valve arrangement: DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder
    Displacement: 748cc
    Carburetion: 4, 34mm CV
    Final Drive: Chain
    Rake/trail: 32 degrees/5.2 in.
    Front tire: 120/80-17
    Rear tire: 150/80-17
    Front brake: 1-piston caliper, 12.4-in. disc
    Rear brake: Single-leading-shoe drum
    200-yard top-gear acceleration from 50 mph, terminal speed: 73.0 mph
    Quarter-mile acceleration: 12.71 sec., 102.9 mph

    YAMAHA V-MAX
    Wet weight: 618 lbs.
    Wheelbase: 62.6 in.
    Seat height: 30.1 in.
    Engine type: Liquid-cooled 70-degree V-4
    Valve arrangement: DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder
    Displacement: 1198cc
    Carburetion: 4, 35mm CV
    Final Drive: Shaft
    Rake/trail: 29 degrees/4.7 in.
    Front tire: 110/90V19
    Rear tire: 150/90V15
    Front brake: 2, 4-piston calipers, 11.7-in.discs
    Rear brake: 2-piston caliper, 11.1-in. disc
    200-yard top-gear acceleration from 50 mph, terminal speed: 81.6 mph
    Quarter-mile acceleration: 11.62 sec., 116.9 mph

    So you see, in term of value, Magna is quite a value buy if you were to ask me, the different in engine capacity is around 450cc so you can see what a chain drive can do if you were to add another 450cc to Magna and see it outrunning the Vmax.
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    Take for example recently Honda has switched the chain-drive of the Shadow 750 to a shaft-drive..... the only reason I can think of why was that many customers gave feedback or requested for the changes.

    It's true that if you're looking for performance from your cruiser, chain-drive would be the way to go. But most people who buy cruisers aren't really looking for serious performance in the first place...

    Anyway it's been a good discussion on this topic, but ultimately it will boil down to the preference of the rider/owner, and it shows that there's no one bike that will suit everyone perfectly!
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    Look at it from this point of view:-
    Imagine how much quicker the VMAX would be if it were chain driven...........

    At the end of the day, both chain and shaft driven trannies are proven effective.

    chain can transmit power better and shaft is smoother, you cant have best of both worlds, that's all.

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    Hahaha...VMAX is a beast! Nothing can chain it down.... Give it a chain, the chain may got to change in very short usage term....Cos the Vboost will drag n stretch the chain very fast. Let see if any MT-01 owner change their chain frequently.

    Like Throttle said shaft can't unleash the true power of the machine. But this is also wat i like, heavier engine brake, smooth and quiet . And least maintenance on chain tightening n frequent change of chain.....

    Chain drive got quicker, lighter response, power transmission efficiency can be quite good. Sprocket ratio can be manipulated. But sometime the loose crackling chain can be irritating.

    Shaft is smooth and quiet good braking response too...To have the power to cheong also must have the good stopping force to hold the monster. Though engine brake only, but i like to play ard with it tactfully loh.

    Nights, great details you gaves...

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    Originally posted by william_liu@Apr 28 2005, 04:52 PM
    Take for example recently Honda has switched the chain-drive of the Shadow 750 to a shaft-drive..... the only reason I can think of why was that many customers gave feedback or requested for the changes.

    It's true that if you're looking for performance from your cruiser, chain-drive would be the way to go. But most people who buy cruisers aren't really looking for serious performance in the first place...

    Anyway it's been a good discussion on this topic, but ultimately it will boil down to the preference of the rider/owner, and it shows that there's no one bike that will suit everyone perfectly!
    From the official website, the reason why Shadow 750 was upgrade to shaft driven was to answer maintenance free that all.

    The reason why you can sometime find a chain-driven crusier are mainly due to performance issue on small engine capacity bike.

    Most big twin bikes are running on either shaft or belt as the engine capacity doesn't depreciate the performance much on an average and maintenance free is what a cruiser rider usually look for.
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    exactly, cruisers are shaft driven becos the performance factor is not as crucial as the maintenance free and smoothness factor.

    small cruisers or bikes have chain becos it is really the most cost effective for the manufacturer....THAT IS THE REAL REASON......

    not point for manufacturer to spend a disproportionate amount on the shaft if the bike is meant to be lower cost.


    I really enjoyed my PC800T which was smooth and quiet with a shaft drive....perfect combi

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    Originally posted by Throttle@Apr 28 2005, 09:53 PM
    exactly, cruisers are shaft driven becos the performance factor is not as crucial as the maintenance free and smoothness factor.

    small cruisers or bikes have chain becos it is really the most cost effective for the manufacturer....THAT IS THE REAL REASON......

    not point for manufacturer to spend a disproportionate amount on the shaft if the bike is meant to be lower cost.


    I really enjoyed my PC800T which was smooth and quiet with a shaft drive....perfect combi
    Throttle, you also have riden the PC800? How's the handling of it. Thtat is one of my favourite bike. Almost got it last year, but due to certain reasons, i pulled out from the deal.
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    I bot the PC800T brand new, silver color in 1997. then only 3 silver ones in Singapore.

    A very very comfortable bike which proved to be very versatile, in terms of cruising in Malaysia as well as City driving in Singapore. the boot is really solid and can fit every damn thing inside such as 2 full face helmets, rainwear, shoes, tools, drinks etc.....

    I really enjoyed my PC800T. Finally sold it in 2002 with less than 40,000 mileage as I didnt ride so often.

    beautiful styling , smooth control and excellent convenience.

    thumbs up for the PC800T

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    Ok got some questions hopefully the experienced lao jiaos can help me answer, i don't know much about cruisers but i like the old magna (45 degree exhaust one) & thinking maybe to get.

    Are spare parts still available & where can i get them...Is it going to be like rare & expensive to get everytime i wanna change something or service / repair the bike? Finally, is it relatively expensive to maintain & ride (ie. if comparing to running cost of like Super 4..i know different type bikes but just comparing running costs.)

    Thanks bros.

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    Originally posted by tre@Apr 29 2005, 11:14 PM
    Ok got some questions hopefully the experienced lao jiaos can help me answer, i don't know much about cruisers but i like the old magna (45 degree exhaust one) & thinking maybe to get.

    Are spare parts still available & where can i get them...Is it going to be like rare & expensive to get everytime i wanna change something or service / repair the bike? Finally, is it relatively expensive to maintain & ride (ie. if comparing to running cost of like Super 4..i know different type bikes but just comparing running costs.)

    Thanks bros.
    The old V45 Magna is a rare bike in Singapore. Age of the bike may also a factor contribute to the lack of abundant spares. Therefore sparepart maybe also expensive. S4 is different, tons of them rolling on the road, sparepart go to any shop and say 'for SUPER 4...' chances of getting is higher.
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    Ok Intruder bro...thks for the valuable input

     

     
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    old V45 Mag is gonna be a little tough to maintain as per Intruder's post.

    unless, you also enjoy driving cars like old MGs and alfas, i 'll say stay away.

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    Hi Throttle...yeah i get the picture, I appreciate vintage cars like MG but as for being willing to put up with servicing / repair inconvenience & cost, well er.........
    thks for giving a clearer idea of the situation Throttle

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    Quote Originally Posted by nights View Post
    Hi Throttle,

    Your 250km is after your modification of tank or? Not sure which year make is your Magna 750 but the review I read is of 1999 thus, reckon for the information on fuel consumption, Shadow Ace win hands down even at high rpm perhaps there is some changes over the year?

    The reason why I said Magna 750 is not as touring friendly as the Shadow Ace 750 is due to the fuel consumption when riding at higher speed as V4 does consume more fuel.

    Other than the above, Magna 750 is a great muscle bike that can outrun a Honda Valkyrie or any big twins.

    Cheers.

    I get Max 140 km out of my 1994 Magna (very good condition) before hitting the reserve!!!

    Do you think I have a problem or is it normal!? if it is not normal, what might be the cause for high fuel consumption?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitro View Post
    Any brudders riding a magna750 here?

    How much average is a 2nd hand FP plate Magna? Saw a FP plate selling @ $5.5k, average condition.
    my 2 cts. Magna should be quite rare now. sometimes even if you want to buy you may not be able to get one and therefore 5.5 k may not be expensive if you really like the bike. My advice is, you must really like it then you will find it is worth your money. But do at least get the owner to do up the condition first as old bike tends to be dififficult to get spares.

    Magna is a wonderful bike. If you have ridden a magna and shadow, you probable wouldn't want to ride the shadow. I know cos i have ridden both

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    Quote Originally Posted by slkl View Post
    my 2 cts. Magna should be quite rare now. sometimes even if you want to buy you may not be able to get one and therefore 5.5 k may not be expensive if you really like the bike. My advice is, you must really like it then you will find it is worth your money. But do at least get the owner to do up the condition first as old bike tends to be dififficult to get spares.

    Magna is a wonderful bike. If you have ridden a magna and shadow, you probable wouldn't want to ride the shadow. I know cos i have ridden both



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    Quote Originally Posted by X-ilED View Post
    bro the quote u replied to is close to 3 years ago.................
    haha

    didn't realise that. I would have grab the bike at 5.5k 3 years ago...

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    hahaha! chill out bro.. nice thread to bring up though...
    i have a few question of my own.
    V-max is off production and is now classified under endangered right?
    actually, like some of the replies in here, my personal opinion is that i would go for shaft driven instead of chain driven anytime. well, i guess it's for the maintenance! and i dont need to go 300km/h do i?

    i want my magna!!!!
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    wow , revival of the Magna750 thread......

    cool, enjoy folks

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    Cool... anybody selling theirs yet? Petrol now expensive you know... anybody wanna downgrade? hee hee...

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