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    Originally posted by comics00@Sep 1 2005, 10:45 AM
    nukes? bio? pls lah use alittle of you brain unless they dont wan anything from this land & just wan all sillyporean to die. btw u think its cheap or by anyway easy to develope, produce, storage nukes or bio weapons
    NSF get paid peanut? where they get the $$ to go clubbing? buy motor cycle? sian gf? take taxi to & from camp? & think of all the time they have sleeping in the bunk & all those puss* kinda training pls lah go ask the NSmen who get $125/mth, get kick on the head or butt (physically), sign 14 extras & doing it on 7weekends continue (2mth never leave camp) then hopefully u will stop ur complaining

    *ask not wat ur country can do for u but wat u can do for ur country

    my family & friends live on this land, i will fight for their right to continue living here
    my buddies will be out there fighting our enemies, i will be there fighting with them

    Never shall i fail my comrades. i will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong & morally straight & i will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it maybe, 100% & then some.
    Energetically will i meet the enemies of my country. i shall defeat them in the field of battle for i m better trained & will fight with all my might...... i will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy & under no circumstances will i ever embarrass my country.
    Readily will i display the intestinal fortitude required to fight onto the objective & complete the mission, though i be the lone survivor
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    Originally posted by enfant@Sep 5 2005, 08:43 PM
    riight. if you say so.
    pei say there is prob millions of ppl out there disagree with my statement
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    it's good to have a defensive mentality when it comes to our country's safety but i'm the kind of person who just shuts up and follows orders blindly. not so "siao on" lol
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    according to PM speech
    our SAF/HOME TEAM are strong and tested, so that we r safe to sleep @ night

    great encouragement.............
    but

    TESTED BY WHO???????????????
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    Originally posted by cs_kup_oh@Sep 6 2005, 07:05 PM
    according to PM speech
    our SAF/HOME TEAM are strong and tested, so that we r safe to sleep @ night

    great encouragement.............
    but

    TESTED BY WHO???????????????
    Not tested by a real war, but via various deployments to East Timor, the urgent evacuation of Singaporeans from Cambodia a couple of years back, the deployment of medical teams on short notice to disaster areas.

    And the one I personally think is the greatest test was during the Tsunami last year. NSmen, NSFs, regulars from all 3 arms were recalled during the year end holidays and rushed off to Meulaboh, Thailand and India in as short a time as 24 hours.

    You would not believe the enormity of trying to recall people on such urgent notice, especially when most people are on leave and having fun. What was heartening was the fact that there are people, NSFs, NSmen, Regulars who volunteered to go. Coupled with the fact that the task force consist of people from various different formations, Engineers, medical, signal, Guards, Cdos, etc, etc on top of those from Navy and Air Force.

    I cannot think of anything else short of a real war situation to demonstrate our resolve.

    The fact that we were able to prepare and ship the right equipment, specialists skills to the area when we do not even know just what EXACTLY is needed tells me that we can prepare ourselves in the event of a real armed conflict with the ever present fog of war.

    I hope I have explained sufficiently to clear your doubts.

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    Originally posted by AKG@Sep 6 2005, 10:49 PM
    Not tested by a real war, but via various deployments to East Timor, the urgent evacuation of Singaporeans from Cambodia a couple of years back, the deployment of medical teams on short notice to disaster areas.

    And the one I personally think is the greatest test was during the Tsunami last year. NSmen, NSFs, regulars from all 3 arms were recalled during the year end holidays and rushed off to Meulaboh, Thailand and India in as short a time as 24 hours.

    You would not believe the enormity of trying to recall people on such urgent notice, especially when most people are on leave and having fun. What was heartening was the fact that there are people, NSFs, NSmen, Regulars who volunteered to go. Coupled with the fact that the task force consist of people from various different formations, Engineers, medical, signal, Guards, Cdos, etc, etc on top of those from Navy and Air Force.

    I cannot think of anything else short of a real war situation to demonstrate our resolve.

    The fact that we were able to prepare and ship the right equipment, specialists skills to the area when we do not even know just what EXACTLY is needed tells me that we can prepare ourselves in the event of a real armed conflict with the ever present fog of war.

    I hope I have explained sufficiently to clear your doubts.
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    or wad u r relating now is wad he saw on tv or the magazine? ?

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    i forgot where i read da articles in newspaper/forum yrs ago, its said by US war expert. He estimated if malaysia arm forces were to attack singapore, they will retreat back to msia within estimated time 30mins. And Singapore still capable of making counter attack and KL will fall within 45mins, whole of msia will be conquered within estimated time 2hrs.

    Not saying just msia, singapore arm forces was ranked 1 of da top in asian region.

    I mean, those who vote to run like hell. Why wana run? It was just like, u'r da police holding a gun, da robber pointed his knife at u, and u drop ur gun to surrender.
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    Originally posted by Shawn--@Nov 16 2005, 01:40 AM
    i forgot where i read da articles in newspaper/forum yrs ago, its said by US war expert. He estimated if malaysia arm forces were to attack singapore, they will retreat back to msia within estimated time 30mins. And Singapore still capable of making counter attack and KL will fall within 45mins, whole of msia will be conquered within estimated time 2hrs.

    Not saying just msia, singapore arm forces was ranked 1 of da top in asian region.

    I mean, those who vote to run like hell. Why wana run? It was just like, u'r da police holding a gun, da robber pointed his knife at u, and u drop ur gun to surrender.
    whole of msia conquered by spore? using wat? The max spore can do is to use air force to deter... once the soldiers go out of spore and try to conquer... spore is finished. Spore soldiers can't even fullly policed the whole of johor.. dun even think of whole msia..

    And how many of the residents in spore are msians? 3 million citizens plus PR.. and 1 million of foreign workers.. or watever... but msian foreigners is at least 20%... conquered within 2 hrs... and spore is gone within the next 4 hrs.
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    Originally posted by AKG@Sep 6 2005, 10:49 PM
    Not tested by a real war, but via various deployments to East Timor, the urgent evacuation of Singaporeans from Cambodia a couple of years back, the deployment of medical teams on short notice to disaster areas.

    And the one I personally think is the greatest test was during the Tsunami last year. NSmen, NSFs, regulars from all 3 arms were recalled during the year end holidays and rushed off to Meulaboh, Thailand and India in as short a time as 24 hours.

    You would not believe the enormity of trying to recall people on such urgent notice, especially when most people are on leave and having fun. What was heartening was the fact that there are people, NSFs, NSmen, Regulars who volunteered to go. Coupled with the fact that the task force consist of people from various different formations, Engineers, medical, signal, Guards, Cdos, etc, etc on top of those from Navy and Air Force.

    I cannot think of anything else short of a real war situation to demonstrate our resolve.

    The fact that we were able to prepare and ship the right equipment, specialists skills to the area when we do not even know just what EXACTLY is needed tells me that we can prepare ourselves in the event of a real armed conflict with the ever present fog of war.

    I hope I have explained sufficiently to clear your doubts.
    Giving up ur life and fight for ur country is different from doing volunteer work. Is just like boy scouts doing volunteer work. hw difficult is doing volunteer work?

    like my friend who works as commando in east timor... he was online everyday. veri xiong hor. The food he eats.. i also dun want to describe further.. and the pay he get.. kns...
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    Originally posted by AKG@Sep 6 2005, 10:49 PM
    Not tested by a real war, but via various deployments to East Timor, the urgent evacuation of Singaporeans from Cambodia a couple of years back, the deployment of medical teams on short notice to disaster areas.

    And the one I personally think is the greatest test was during the Tsunami last year. NSmen, NSFs, regulars from all 3 arms were recalled during the year end holidays and rushed off to Meulaboh, Thailand and India in as short a time as 24 hours.

    You would not believe the enormity of trying to recall people on such urgent notice, especially when most people are on leave and having fun. What was heartening was the fact that there are people, NSFs, NSmen, Regulars who volunteered to go. Coupled with the fact that the task force consist of people from various different formations, Engineers, medical, signal, Guards, Cdos, etc, etc on top of those from Navy and Air Force.

    I cannot think of anything else short of a real war situation to demonstrate our resolve.

    The fact that we were able to prepare and ship the right equipment, specialists skills to the area when we do not even know just what EXACTLY is needed tells me that we can prepare ourselves in the event of a real armed conflict with the ever present fog of war.

    I hope I have explained sufficiently to clear your doubts.
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    Originally posted by comics00@Sep 1 2005, 10:45 AM
    nukes? bio? pls lah use alittle of you brain unless they dont wan anything from this land & just wan all sillyporean to die. btw u think its cheap or by anyway easy to develope, produce, storage nukes or bio weapons
    NSF get paid peanut? where they get the $$ to go clubbing? buy motor cycle? sian gf? take taxi to & from camp? & think of all the time they have sleeping in the bunk & all those puss* kinda training pls lah go ask the NSmen who get $125/mth, get kick on the head or butt (physically), sign 14 extras & doing it on 7weekends continue (2mth never leave camp) then hopefully u will stop ur complaining

    *ask not wat ur country can do for u but wat u can do for ur country

    my family & friends live on this land, i will fight for their right to continue living here
    my buddies will be out there fighting our enemies, i will be there fighting with them

    Never shall i fail my comrades. i will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong & morally straight & i will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it maybe, 100% & then some.
    Energetically will i meet the enemies of my country. i shall defeat them in the field of battle for i m better trained & will fight with all my might...... i will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy & under no circumstances will i ever embarrass my country.
    Readily will i display the intestinal fortitude required to fight onto the objective & complete the mission, though i be the lone survivor
    it would be good if most regulars are like u.alot are just in SAF just for money.....so make use of nsf jialat jialat when they themselve noe sh*t.especially in non combat side....
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    Originally posted by ah_tee@May 24 2005, 11:37 PM
    i fight for the land my family lives on

    not for my country


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    i got nothing for me to fight for i live alone all my life,

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    Originally posted by hailang_82@Nov 20 2005, 01:14 AM
    whole of msia conquered by spore? using wat? The max spore can do is to use air force to deter... once the soldiers go out of spore and try to conquer... spore is finished. Spore soldiers can't even fullly policed the whole of johor.. dun even think of whole msia..

    And how many of the residents in spore are msians? 3 million citizens plus PR.. and 1 million of foreign workers.. or watever... but msian foreigners is at least 20%... conquered within 2 hrs... and spore is gone within the next 4 hrs.
    wahh.. u'r better than US war expert leh..
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    I think u r being brain-washed by SAF...

    The article that u quoted... was in the Straits times... when those politicians in msia and spore are quarreling... we shld know hw indepedent Strait times is...

    anyway, SAF strategy is based on counter-attack.. weapon-wise.. of cos they can counter-attack successfully... Conquering is another issue altogether.

    The same war expert that u quoted was correct is saying they win the war in iraq.. But i still see soldiers being killed while they are still conquering the iraq.

    anyway, Spore success is based on human resource. Those brains.. 20% of soldiers die.. is enough to kill spore economy.

    And war itself is not onli abt weapons... the soldiers are as impt..
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    Originally posted by hailang_82@Nov 29 2005, 05:41 PM
    I think u r being brain-washed by SAF...

    The article that u quoted... was in the Straits times... when those politicians in msia and spore are quarreling... we shld know hw indepedent Strait times is...

    anyway, SAF strategy is based on counter-attack.. weapon-wise.. of cos they can counter-attack successfully... Conquering is another issue altogether.

    The same war expert that u quoted was correct is saying they win the war in iraq.. But i still see soldiers being killed while they are still conquering the iraq.

    anyway, Spore success is based on human resource. Those brains.. 20% of soldiers die.. is enough to kill spore economy.

    And war itself is not onli abt weapons... the soldiers are as impt..
    Thats why i said u'r better than US war expert mah

    But i still see soldiers being killed while they are still conquering the iraq
    Which country fought war without any of her soldiers KIA?

    I'm being brain washed by SAF? Come on theres no link mate, i'm just stating out da fact. Since when SAF told me that about Singapore against malaysia issue? I just read it from article. True or not i would care less than u.

    And war itself is not onli abt weapons... the soldiers are as impt
    Then wads 3R generation warfare about? yeah soldiers are important too.. like what pioneer magazines talks about. In fact da near future Machine and technology are da killers now (yaya ...i know its da human doing da operating)

    So are u going to said pioneer magazine only know how to said things out easily but not for real? wah FREN, i find u very "intelligence" LEH.

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    Without my mum and dad, I am nothing.

    To protect my mum, my dad and my family, I shall fight till the end.
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    I think it's not far-fetched to say majority of us will be standing on the fence, deciding which side to jump on (i.e run or stay to fight) when the real time comes.

    For me, I too, have nothing to fight for. My mom has been long deceased, my dad is safely tucked in another country and my relatives, let's just say they are not aplenty nor close.

    What's the point in fighting then? I could easily scoot off cos the only person I will worry about should be my gf (or wife if I am lucky enough).

    However, I will still choose to stay and fight, rather than run and hide.

    No, I am not patriotic, neither am I diplomatic. Neither am I going to lay my life down on a rifle for the safety of cabinet ministers or the lazing superiors I had back in the army.

    I am fighting for the memories. Yeap, the memories.

    Memories of my childhood, whereby my dad and late mom brought me to jalan-jalan around these island where I was born, the memories of my teachers who showed me how valuable education is, the memories of my fellow classmates (not just Malays, but EVERY racial offsprings )who became my dearest treasured buddies later in life who will be at my void deck within the hour if I call them for emergencies (tried & tested henceforth, my statement), memories of NDP, Chingay, the various multi-racial festivities whereby my Malay, Chinese, Indian and Eurasian neighbours who never fail to at least say their morning "Hi" to me sincerely and ask about my well-being through my parents and vice-versa.

    These are my intangible treasures that I am fighting for. These people and the beautiful memories they had given me to cherish for life (no pun intended).

    To say that we can conquer our neighbouring country, is far-fetched. A theory, is just a theory. As long as we can defend ourselves, that's pretty much our defense mode. Not to conquer but to counter.

    For those who've seen too much combat movies, please, don't be misled. Our boys will NOT survive the jungle warfare in Malaysia. If I could recall, during one of the joint wargames with Malaysia, (to put myself in a safe pedestal, let me just pretend it wasn't me who was there but my friends yeah?), a section from SAF was putting hold, awaiting the enemy (here, it is the Tentera Darat Diraja Malaysia) on a hill. They've secured the place, swept it clean and ensured no enemies was found within a wide radius.

    Before they know it, one by one had a bayonet along their neck from behind. Caught offguard, outwitted and severely outclassed. The reason? They couldnt even hear the Malaysian soldies creeping up behind them. How nasty. A fully grown fit Malaysian soldier who could move steadily in stealth, infiltrate from behind and whilst doing all these, not break a single dry twig in the jungle even though he's in proper heavy battle order. And that was just, A GAME.

    During my first GMK lesson in Tekong, the CO stated that if we can't win with a matter of 3-4 days? We're gone.

    Our Howitzers can carry the fire up to Penang while our counterparts up North have to travel a fair bit southern to smell our shores with their cannons.

    That I believe. But to believe an angmoh (God forbid, he has not even served our tri-service NS, what he deduce is just from paper), could meant fatal eventually. Through overconfidence, a disaster is created.

    But to say, we will lose hands down and don't bother to give a fight cos we'd lose eventually, I'd say might as well you pack up and leave now, please. Save us the trouble of having to fight alongside you or FOR YOU, for that matter, when the time is needed, since you claimed we have nothing to fight with and to fight for.

    I understand sometimes I too have my doubts about our defense, but it's just a normal rant. Not something I will hold clearly and set my mind up with. When it's time to be tested, I'd say let's put a good show.

    Isn't it the same as riding a motorcycle pals? How did you know you can't balance on two wheels if you did not even try doing it? Or to put it simpler, do you need to be in a circus to be able to balance nicely on two wheels?

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    Well said, Naz.

    I too will stay and fight for memories.

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    Originally posted by Naz@Dec 23 2005, 10:22 AM
    I think it's not far-fetched to say majority of us will be standing on the fence, deciding which side to jump on (i.e run or stay to fight) when the real time comes.

    For me, I too, have nothing to fight for. My mom has been long deceased, my dad is safely tucked in another country and my relatives, let's just say they are not aplenty nor close.

    What's the point in fighting then? I could easily scoot off cos the only person I will worry about should be my gf (or wife if I am lucky enough).

    However, I will still choose to stay and fight, rather than run and hide.

    No, I am not patriotic, neither am I diplomatic. Neither am I going to lay my life down on a rifle for the safety of cabinet ministers or the lazing superiors I had back in the army.

    I am fighting for the memories. Yeap, the memories.

    Memories of my childhood, whereby my dad and late mom brought me to jalan-jalan around these island where I was born, the memories of my teachers who showed me how valuable education is, the memories of my fellow classmates (not just Malays, but EVERY racial offsprings )who became my dearest treasured buddies later in life who will be at my void deck within the hour if I call them for emergencies (tried & tested henceforth, my statement), memories of NDP, Chingay, the various multi-racial festivities whereby my Malay, Chinese, Indian and Eurasian neighbours who never fail to at least say their morning "Hi" to me sincerely and ask about my well-being through my parents and vice-versa.

    These are my intangible treasures that I am fighting for. These people and the beautiful memories they had given me to cherish for life (no pun intended).

    To say that we can conquer our neighbouring country, is far-fetched. A theory, is just a theory. As long as we can defend ourselves, that's pretty much our defense mode. Not to conquer but to counter.

    For those who've seen too much combat movies, please, don't be misled. Our boys will NOT survive the jungle warfare in Malaysia. If I could recall, during one of the joint wargames with Malaysia, (to put myself in a safe pedestal, let me just pretend it wasn't me who was there but my friends yeah?), a section from SAF was putting hold, awaiting the enemy (here, it is the Tentera Darat Diraja Malaysia) on a hill. They've secured the place, swept it clean and ensured no enemies was found within a wide radius.

    Before they know it, one by one had a bayonet along their neck from behind. Caught offguard, outwitted and severely outclassed. The reason? They couldnt even hear the Malaysian soldies creeping up behind them. How nasty. A fully grown fit Malaysian soldier who could move steadily in stealth, infiltrate from behind and whilst doing all these, not break a single dry twig in the jungle even though he's in proper heavy battle order. And that was just, A GAME.

    During my first GMK lesson in Tekong, the CO stated that if we can't win with a matter of 3-4 days? We're gone.

    Our Howitzers can carry the fire up to Penang while our counterparts up North have to travel a fair bit southern to smell our shores with their cannons.

    That I believe. But to believe an angmoh (God forbid, he has not even served our tri-service NS, what he deduce is just from paper), could meant fatal eventually. Through overconfidence, a disaster is created.

    But to say, we will lose hands down and don't bother to give a fight cos we'd lose eventually, I'd say might as well you pack up and leave now, please. Save us the trouble of having to fight alongside you or FOR YOU, for that matter, when the time is needed, since you claimed we have nothing to fight with and to fight for.

    I understand sometimes I too have my doubts about our defense, but it's just a normal rant. Not something I will hold clearly and set my mind up with. When it's time to be tested, I'd say let's put a good show.

    Isn't it the same as riding a motorcycle pals? How did you know you can't balance on two wheels if you did not even try doing it? Or to put it simpler, do you need to be in a circus to be able to balance nicely on two wheels?

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    Gents (i assume all of us here are men ,

    Good to hear that most of us will stay to fight on our own volition, and not because we can't run. Kudos especially to Naz and Throttle.

    I don't think it's particularly important why chose to stay, but that we have chosen to fight for the liberty of our country, friends, and family.

    For those of you who are interested there's a book called "Defending the Lion City" by Tim Huxley. I gotta say, it's a very interesting read, and very insightful. Without going into details, despite the shortcoming of our Armed Forces (eg conscript army vs professional army, and that we haven't been battle-tested), he essentially concluded that our strengths outweigh our weaknesses and more importantly overshadow the strengths of any potential aggressor to Singapore. The bottomline : We'd whip the collective assess of any potential threat to Singapore.

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    Originally posted by madman@Jul 27 2005, 02:21 AM
    while most would stay and fight, how about your love ones, especially those who are married and have young children. Will you be able to fight the war in peace, or will you be constantly be thinking of their safety?

    It's gonna be hard, one hand, trying your best to fight the enemy, and the other, constant fear of not knowing your wife and childrens safety....
    for a moment this came across my mind that someone would say "Ask the wife to report to u hourly/daily on ur mobile lor!"

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    if there's a war in singapore, i will stay, but since im not trained to fight, i will do what im best in, which is to save lives, and handle casualties.
    at least i can do my part to help.

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    Originally posted by C@bby@May 8 2006, 05:57 AM
    if there's a war in singapore, i will stay, but since im not trained to fight, i will do what im best in, which is to save lives, and handle casualties.
    at least i can do my part to help.
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    Originally posted by C@bby@May 8 2006, 05:57 AM
    if there's a war in singapore, i will stay, but since im not trained to fight, i will do what im best in, which is to save lives, and handle casualties.
    at least i can do my part to help.
    You have my respect for saying that

    Such a contrast against some pple here, who'd pack up and run at the first whiff of trouble

    Btw, u sound like you're in the medical line. U a doctor or nurse?

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    Originally posted by xiao_p@May 8 2006, 10:27 AM
    for ya missy

    thats the least i could do...

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    Originally posted by Steppenwolf@May 8 2006, 11:53 AM
    You have my respect for saying that

    Such a contrast against some pple here, who'd pack up and run at the first whiff of trouble

    Btw, u sound like you're in the medical line. U a doctor or nurse?

    thank you!
    something i learn in psychology, when one is put in a situation whereby he/she faces a crisis like war, there's always two responses. which is either stay and fight or flee..
    i would choose to stay and contribute in ways that i can help, because i always believe good karma comes around, that one day when im in need of help, there's always some available..
    yup, im in the medical line.. angel in white..
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    i think singapore can win by fire power , air strike and arti , but by man to man combat , haizzz it will be difficult .... anyway i think de way our army is training our men , is quite 4 pus$Y , too much welfare and to leniet , when i entered de army in 2002 , i was expecting something Tough with no bull Sh|t and totally hardcore training ... but i found it quite relaxing and de approach was quite weak and soft , seen videos of other country army training , and i would say that is wat i call tOUGH! they leopard crawl with their sleeve up and crawl thru smalls rocks !! OuCh that really got to hurt , and they do it so fast!....


    anyway back to de topic , i will COmfirm + gurantee + cHop , i will fight for this country , For my family , relatives , friends & for myself!!

    just love this country to much , which country can you at nite go down block and wash ur bike alone, and not worrying anything else but ghost ...

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    Originally posted by bluelabel@May 24 2006, 05:59 AM
    i think singapore can win by fire power , air strike and arti , but by man to man combat , haizzz it will be difficult .... anyway i think de way our army is training our men , is quite 4 pus$Y , too much welfare and to leniet , when i entered de army in 2002 , i was expecting something Tough with no bull Sh|t and totally hardcore training ... but i found it quite relaxing and de approach was quite weak and soft , seen videos of other country army training , and i would say that is wat i call tOUGH! they leopard crawl with their sleeve up and crawl thru smalls rocks !! OuCh that really got to hurt , and they do it so fast!.
    which unit were you from? i want to transfer to yours for my reservist ^^

    btw, in terms of manpower, we outnumber many regular soldiers in neighbouring countries. imagine all the reservists called back, ALL of them. we can almost drown the enemy with our spit alone although the recent batches of ns men might have slacked training due to advances in technology (3G soldier bull$sh*t) and training deaths, we still have numbers. war is won mainly with technology now. soldiers simply occupy land and pilot the machines. don't expect any epic battles of countless infantry charging each other with bayonets ala LOTR style. times have changed.
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    HI guys.. i m feeling darn good to know that there will be brave young men like u, to step up to any treat that will ever reach the shores of our beloved country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CS_ View Post
    according to PM speech
    our SAF/HOME TEAM are strong and tested, so that we r safe to sleep @ night

    great encouragement.............
    but

    TESTED BY WHO???????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Riding Hood View Post
    yeah...yeah...singapore is my homeland too...i luv the country..bt i hate the gahment...i will fight for the country bt nt the gahment....
    Couldn't agree more with you, hombre. Hahaha!!! I bet the govt themselves will run!!!

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    IF an attack on singapore happens anytime in this 1yr, looks like we will really be activated coz my unit supports 6SIR for ops bacinet and i;ll be ferrying troops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naz View Post
    I think it's not far-fetched to say majority of us will be standing on the fence, deciding which side to jump on (i.e run or stay to fight) when the real time comes.

    For me, I too, have nothing to fight for. My mom has been long deceased, my dad is safely tucked in another country and my relatives, let's just say they are not aplenty nor close.

    What's the point in fighting then? I could easily scoot off cos the only person I will worry about should be my gf (or wife if I am lucky enough).

    However, I will still choose to stay and fight, rather than run and hide.

    No, I am not patriotic, neither am I diplomatic. Neither am I going to lay my life down on a rifle for the safety of cabinet ministers or the lazing superiors I had back in the army.

    I am fighting for the memories. Yeap, the memories.

    Memories of my childhood, whereby my dad and late mom brought me to jalan-jalan around these island where I was born, the memories of my teachers who showed me how valuable education is, the memories of my fellow classmates (not just Malays, but EVERY racial offsprings )who became my dearest treasured buddies later in life who will be at my void deck within the hour if I call them for emergencies (tried & tested henceforth, my statement), memories of NDP, Chingay, the various multi-racial festivities whereby my Malay, Chinese, Indian and Eurasian neighbours who never fail to at least say their morning "Hi" to me sincerely and ask about my well-being through my parents and vice-versa.

    These are my intangible treasures that I am fighting for. These people and the beautiful memories they had given me to cherish for life (no pun intended).

    To say that we can conquer our neighbouring country, is far-fetched. A theory, is just a theory. As long as we can defend ourselves, that's pretty much our defense mode. Not to conquer but to counter.

    For those who've seen too much combat movies, please, don't be misled. Our boys will NOT survive the jungle warfare in Malaysia. If I could recall, during one of the joint wargames with Malaysia, (to put myself in a safe pedestal, let me just pretend it wasn't me who was there but my friends yeah?), a section from SAF was putting hold, awaiting the enemy (here, it is the Tentera Darat Diraja Malaysia) on a hill. They've secured the place, swept it clean and ensured no enemies was found within a wide radius.

    Before they know it, one by one had a bayonet along their neck from behind. Caught offguard, outwitted and severely outclassed. The reason? They couldnt even hear the Malaysian soldies creeping up behind them. How nasty. A fully grown fit Malaysian soldier who could move steadily in stealth, infiltrate from behind and whilst doing all these, not break a single dry twig in the jungle even though he's in proper heavy battle order. And that was just, A GAME.

    During my first GMK lesson in Tekong, the CO stated that if we can't win with a matter of 3-4 days? We're gone.

    Our Howitzers can carry the fire up to Penang while our counterparts up North have to travel a fair bit southern to smell our shores with their cannons.

    That I believe. But to believe an angmoh (God forbid, he has not even served our tri-service NS, what he deduce is just from paper), could meant fatal eventually. Through overconfidence, a disaster is created.

    But to say, we will lose hands down and don't bother to give a fight cos we'd lose eventually, I'd say might as well you pack up and leave now, please. Save us the trouble of having to fight alongside you or FOR YOU, for that matter, when the time is needed, since you claimed we have nothing to fight with and to fight for.

    I understand sometimes I too have my doubts about our defense, but it's just a normal rant. Not something I will hold clearly and set my mind up with. When it's time to be tested, I'd say let's put a good show.

    Isn't it the same as riding a motorcycle pals? How did you know you can't balance on two wheels if you did not even try doing it? Or to put it simpler, do you need to be in a circus to be able to balance nicely on two wheels?

    My apologies for the long draft.
    the TDDM who had bayonets on our boys were they from malaysia special task force unit.commando? guards?..tats y so swift and stealthy hmhm...

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    haha, its there is a war, most properly i will stay amd fight. haha...

    1st CDO will be activated within 15 NTM, follow by a 1 hr NTM battalion, then a 2 hr NTM bridage and lastly, a 4 hr NTM divison. and open MOB for all NS units to defence our home.

    guess how its goes.

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    i will confirm stay and fight. what for run when everything u have in ur life is in this country.

    Without a country, there can never be a home, a family and a life.

     

     
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    Stay and protect Lee's Family.

    But if they flees to other country when war come... U stay fight, dun u feel silly?

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    at least i know that those who stay can be counted on.
    better those cowards flee earlier so i can trust the guy covering me.

    feel silly to defend my family and friends? not me

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    I will not die for my country!..


    BUT..


    I will make the enemy die for his!..
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    Hi,

    Just some 2 cents worth.

    In my personal opinion, as long as the war is not fought in Singapore, we have a good chance of surviving.

    Comparing all the firepower, air superiority and naval prowess, I dare say compared to the Armies in the South East Asian Region, we are the most technologically advanced army. That is for our weaponry.

    About the manpower, we do have a lot. But not so much to sustain more than 1 week of war/battle. Comparing our manpower capability with the other regions, we are somehow lack the battle preparedness. Even our training does not match up to the training other armies did.

    In summary, in times of war, its better to fend off the enemy with long range, hard hitting weaponry and use our manpower resources as a last resort.

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    will not defend directly, probably assist the wounded ones, leading the children and women or something. i dont believe in killing, if war really come i will probably hesitate to shoot if a enemy is spotted which makes me a bad soldier

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    [QUOTE=archenemy;1034594]depends on who we fighting lah...

    fighting a much stronger nation...flee!!


    good for you

    can i have your share of ppl to kill the more the merrier
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    Then comarde there's nothing to worry about isn't it
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    easy lah, got war? just employ FT fight for us lor.

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    Think most ppl don't understand how SG defense works even after they have served NS...

    The main force is here. We have very good relationship with neighbours to ensure that our defence line would be far away beyond these neighbours.

    Even if they turn against us, there are enough units stationed in other non-Asia countries to ensure quick counter-attack on the enemy's land. Not to mention any bombs land in SG would also hit a foreigner either from US, Europe or Asia. Think their Gorvernment will stay quiet?

    Best defense is still friendship and more loyal and die-hard citizens.

    *Touch my country and I'll make sure the enemies will be DHL back without their dicks.
    2017
    11 - 25 Nov - 15D, Taiwan - Fly and Scoot
    2018

    7 - 15 Apr - 9D, Phuket and Hatyai Songkran
    17 Nov to 2 Dec - 16D, North East Thailand (Issan)
    2019
    30 Mar to 7 Apr - 9D Korea/Jeju Fly and Ride
    8 - 24 Nov - 16D, Mae Hong Son
    http://thehouseofdaviz.blogspot.sg/

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