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    hi all,

    i'm new to this forum, hopefully you guys can clear some of my doubts. i just took over a FN Plate VCL Steed and need to find out how often in terms of mileage do i need to service my bike such as: engine oil, spark plug, oil filter and air filter. Are there any other stuff i need to maintain?

    Thanks and Regards,

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    Hi Rustee05

    I have a Honda Steed owner's manual for sale.

    PM 98679245.




     

     
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    steed total gt 3 differ models rite?

    vse,vlx and vls rite?

    whats the main difference between them?

    wats the average fuel comsumption for a steed?
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    steed total gt 3 differ models rite?

    vse,vlx and vls rite?

    whats the main difference between them?

    wats the average fuel comsumption for a steed?



    Average consumption will be20km per Litre.

    Some will go even more.

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    Originally posted by CridZ@Jan 14 2006, 10:19 PM
    thx for the advices guys....i think its about time i got my bike serviced too...
    You might want to drop your bike at where quite a number of the Kruzers service their bike, Rosli's. Drop me a PM if interested.

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    http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/287429/




    the bike exhaust shown in the picture,can do it in sg?
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    yes, believe ur eyes, it's a steed 400.



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    hi,
    i notice my engine oil for my speed always decreasing.. u guys got any idea way?
    i am using 10w-40 oil from esso 4T

    Thanks

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    Sorry.. let me rephase my question

    the engine oil in my steed is always drying up..
    any idea why?

    Thanks

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    Originally posted by cruzz_77@Feb 19 2006, 08:10 PM
    Sorry.. let me rephase my question

    the engine oil in my steed is always drying up..
    any idea why?

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    Might be worn piston rings? There's no evidence of oil leaking, right? (eg. patch of oil under the bike)

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    Hi

    i checked already.
    there is no leak under the bike,
    i checked the oil filter also no leak.

    but one thing i have notice that when i put my hands near the exhaust opening, there are very tiny bits of oil spitting out

    Any idea why?

    Thanks

     

     
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    Originally posted by cruzz_77@Feb 20 2006, 11:10 AM
    Hi

    i checked already.
    there is no leak under the bike,
    i checked the oil filter also no leak.

    but one thing i have notice that when i put my hands near the exhaust opening, there are very tiny bits of oil spitting out

    Any idea why?

    Thanks
    The piston rings have probably worn out. You'll need to replace them

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    Worn out rings means overhaul?
    Or top overhaul?

    Anybody done overhaul before on their Steeds'???
    Wats the rate like to perform a complete overhaul ya?

    Thanks

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    Originally posted by fisher@Feb 20 2006, 12:51 PM
    Worn out rings means overhaul?
    Or top overhaul?

    Anybody done overhaul before on their Steeds'???
    Wats the rate like to perform a complete overhaul ya?

    Thanks
    Well, it just means the rings have to be replaced Your mechanic may suggest other replacements which he thinks are necessary, having disassembled the engine.

    So what constitutes an overhaul varies. Depends on budget, mostly.

    I'm also curious to find out what's the mkt rate for engine parts + labour.

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    Overhaul in general means taking apart your engine.

    Top overhaul basically means that the top part of your engine, the combustion chamber is opened up to service the pistons.

    Bottom overhaul will be the bottom part being removed. Where the oil sump, gearbox and crankpin is.

    Originally posted by ultimax@Feb 20 2006, 01:01 PM
    So what constitutes an overhaul varies. Depends on budget, mostly.
    The above does have a small amount of truth in it.
    How much are you willing to spend on a overhaul?
    Remember, gaskets, oil seals and washers do not come cheap. So if you're willing to risk re-using them, the cost can be lowered. It can be done, just apply some good ole gasket/exhaust "gum" and it will work, for a while.

    Ask yourself this, since you're opening up your engine, won't it be better to just change all the old oil seals, gaskets (may be torn when opening up engine) and washers rather than doing it again, when it starts to leak again and get charged the service charge again?

    Some shops will charge 400, some will charge 600, some even more. But know this, what you pay for, is what you'll get. Unless of course, its a dishonest shop.

    Let me know if you need a quote.

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    Well said William.

    I think there are no short cuts when it comes to an engine overhaul. Once you have opened the cylinder heads just go all the way and change all seals/gaskets. If the cylinder head is removed, take the opportunity to remove the carbon deposits too. If your valve seals are old, replace them too. For my Rebel, a top gasket set comes with valve seals too, so i guess since you are paying for it, might as well get them changed. If your budget allows, have your valves lapped since the cylinder head is removed.

    Engine overhauls are not something you do at every servicing. Do it properly, then you dont have to revisit the problem again.

    If you are going to do it yourself, make sure you have the service manual and refer to it constantly. Read carefully before removing any part and if you have a digital camera, snap a lot of pictures of which part goes where. Label them too as soon as you get them removed. I have done a few engines in my free time and believe me, even I sometimes forget which part goes where. Have a cleaning agent close by. Lots of rags and old newspapers too. Having the right tool helps and patience is the key.

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    whau.. seems like its going to cost a bomb..
    i had mine valve clearance tuned just and few months ago and the top gasket changed..

    Yes.. u guys are right.. since the engine is open,, it is best that we changed a new gasket...

    confused

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    SELLING
    Model & Colour: Honda Steed - Red
    Plate No: FMXXXXL
    Price: SGD 1500

    Payment (Cash/COI): Cash
    Road Tax expiry date: July 2006
    COE expiry date: Abt 7 years...
    No. of owner: 2
    Name of seller: Ah Boon
    Contact: PM pls
    Remark: In good condition, just change new oil tank and went for servicing lately.


    Reason for Selling: Upgrading

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    Hey just wondering but how much are you guys paying for insurance for your Steed? I was quoted

    NTUC 3rd party: $448 (after 10% NCB)
    Mitsui 3rd party: $491 (before NCB)

    I'm 25 this year, >2 years riding experience.

    Does that sound about right?

    Thanks!

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    Hi All steed raider

    Anyone got lobang to get a second hand oil tank for my steed VSE, it leaking now need help.
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    how did it leak? rusty? u never pump petrol inside for a long time?
    maybe u can go to shop and ask around whether they got spare ones.
    This is how i got my used exhaust.

     

     
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    how did it leak? rusty? u never pump petrol inside for a long time?
    maybe u can go to shop and ask around whether they got spare ones.
    This is how i got my used exhaust.

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    Originally posted by picanto@Mar 28 2006, 05:05 PM
    Hi All steed raider

    Anyone got lobang to get a second hand oil tank for my steed VSE, it leaking now need help.
    bro, i've got the same problem. 2nd hand tanks are usually rusty so they'll eventually start leaking. Brand new, hard to find, and expensive.

    I'm going to use POR-15 to coat the inside of my tank. It's a product specially designed for leaking gas tanks. Let me know if you'd like to know more. It's S$62. You'll probably pay as much to get it welded at a shop. I'm not going to do that because, guess what - my tank's leaking at a spot that was fixed (welded) at a shop by the previous owner!

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    Hi cruzz_77 & ultimax

    Thanks for your advice. ultimax i would like to know more about POR-15. Thanks
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    [/IMG]Anybody know how to clean the fork stain, i can't clear them by using autosol and basso.
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    Originally posted by picanto@Mar 30 2006, 01:54 PM
    [/IMG]Anybody know how to clean the fork stain, i can't clear them by using autosol and basso.
    haha i'm curious too. Maybe it's a different form of metal oxidation.

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    Originally posted by picanto@Mar 30 2006, 12:07 PM
    Hi cruzz_77 & ultimax

    Thanks for your advice. ultimax i would like to know more about POR-15. Thanks
    Bro,

    there are 3 parts in the kit - tank cleaner, solution to prep the surface, and the tank liner itself.

    You can read about POR-15 here:

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/...dpost&p=107020 (review by a fellow SBF biker)

    and

    http://www.willystech.com/faqs/Breakout/fuel.html#FTR (overseas review)

    and

    http://www.por15.com/Default.aspx?TabId=36 (I'm gonna get the Cycle Kit)

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    Originally posted by picanto@Mar 30 2006, 01:54 PM
    [/IMG]Anybody know how to clean the fork stain, i can't clear them by using autosol and basso.
    Sorry, but your picture is really kinda blur so I am just gonna make guesses here. Most bikes from the factory have their fork legs coated with a flim of lacquer. This flim wears out over time and gives a very "stained" look with some areas of lacquer wearing off. If you still have lacquer on the fork, using autosol is going to be a very long long process trying to remove the stains.

    If your forks are coated with lacquer and if you use autosol on them, you will get a "uncoloured" effrect on your cloth. But if the forks are uncoated metal, then using autosol on them will leave your cloth black.

    Hope I am making some sense here.

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    Where can i buy footrest for my Steed?
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    Originally posted by picanto@Mar 30 2006, 01:54 PM
    [/IMG]Anybody know how to clean the fork stain, i can't clear them by using autosol and basso.
    this is like slightly rough like small stones stuck on the fork right... u can go to any harware shop and ask for steel wool... put some autosol on the wool and start rubbing... the stains would go away. alternatively, u can use very fine grit sandpaper with some soap water to sand away the 'blemishes' be sure not to sand too much or too hard because u might cause scratches on the fork..
    It's your damn bike, wash it yourself! You rinse your own mouth after you eat, don't you?

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    are those sandblast marks? if so..go down to hardware stores and try ask for stuff to remove sandblast.

     

     
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    the so call fork stains (cant see picture clearly) is most likely due to the wearing out of the first protection layer which is usually applied to metals which have a brushed look.

    Do not use anything abrasive to clean it becos it wont work and may worsen it.

    Such "mark" are commonly found on older bikes or bikes which are exposed to more mileage and elements of nature. my bike too has this marks on some areas.

    perhaps you can post a clearer picture so we can see.

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    thanks normal aspirated. Btw, i'm thinkin of changing my handlebar. has anyone here done that on their steed >>?
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    I'm intending to change my engine oil, filter and spark plug. If bros here is doing that DIY, pls post here. so that we can all learn. hehe. thanks
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    Originally posted by CridZ@Jan 11 2006, 04:40 PM
    Hi guys...hoping that ya'll can help me out on this. Im riding an "FL-Plate" VLX and i love my Steed so much however there's a lot of things/problems that i encountered.

    1) My steed is not able to reach 140km/h, not even close to that and i wonder why? I've tried to change the EO, serviced the carb, changed the chain & sprocket but the performance still dissapoints me. Is there anything i can do to increase the power?

    2) My handle also vibrates terribly upon reaching 100km/h...and my hands got so numb that i can barely feel anything due to the vibration. What do you guys think is the problem? Is it advisable to send my bike for a major overhaul? Im just afraid it will cost me a bomb and worst still, wont change anything...

    3) I've also ever tried to arrange the wires and cables on the bike nicely as i thought it look so messy however after dismantling the parts, i noticed the wirings is so old and some worn out. I thought of sending the bike to the w/shop to do it up all over again with new wires/cables so as to look much neater. Is it worth it? Any idea how much it'll cost?

    4) Lastly, my steed gets soo burning HOT very fast. I can just start my bike, and the temp will shoot up in minutes or after travelling for a short distance. Is that normal?

    Does anyone experience the same on their VLX? Oh...someone please help me....
    Hi, I'm also riding steed (VLX 600) 1995 dual carbs.

    Not able to rech 140? Check your air filter, replace if necessary.
    Check cylinder compression, should be around 180-190 psi if I recall correcly.
    What is your plug color? any oil stain on it?

    For the vibration, is your bike dual or single carb? If dual, you may want to sinchronize the carb. Take it to a good shop, or if you like DIY, you can make the tool your self and do it in 10 minutes, cost max. $2.

    Burning hot: check your coolant level on the main inlet, behind the right steering cover. Check the reservoir tank below the right side panel cover, should be above 'lower' lever. If you have not change the coolant in a year, flush it and replace with good coolant like engine ice. Another option is Prestone extended life (orange) and you can add Water wetter to make it super coolant.
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    Originally posted by picanto@Mar 30 2006, 01:54 PM
    [/IMG]Anybody know how to clean the fork stain, i can't clear them by using autosol and basso.
    You can't use metal polish on it because it has clear coat. What I did was remove the coat with paint remover, sand the aluminium with 800, 1000, wet sand 1000 and wet sand 1500 until it's silky smooth, then use your favourite metal / aluminum polish to a mirror finish. No need to re coat with clear paint.
    I would recommend Mother's Mag & Aluminium polish. The shine holds up for many months with very little effort when polishing and touching up.
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    Is there any way of testing/checking whether the radiator's fan works? THanks!

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    Ghost, dont think you're local but you have my vote for the coolest Steed i've seen and i've seen a lot of Steeds, having owned one back in 1994 as well.

    The understated, clean looks with the right amount of "ornaments" greatly enhances the original look of your Steed. I could even smell the pride coming from the exhaust. Great job there.


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    ghost, tink thats a 600cc steed right . we dun have it here in sg. or am i wrong to say that?

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    Originally posted by Throttle@Apr 22 2006, 10:35 AM
    Ghost, dont think you're local but you have my vote for the coolest Steed i've seen and i've seen a lot of Steeds, having owned one back in 1994 as well.

    The understated, clean looks with the right amount of "ornaments" greatly enhances the original look of your Steed. I could even smell the pride coming from the exhaust. Great job there.

    Throttle, thanks a lot for your compliments! I'm Indonesian, Singapore PR.
    Overall I'm happy with the way it turn out. But honestly, I think the tank speedo is a mistake. I'm gonna remove it later and put a flushmount gas cap. Hope it will look better.
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    any bros here that has steed400 vlx manual?
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    Originally posted by testrider@Apr 22 2006, 01:14 PM
    ghost, tink thats a 600cc steed right . we dun have it here in sg. or am i wrong to say that?
    Yes, 600cc 1995 dual carbs. Mine is California model which has emission control stuff connected to carburetor. Currently not available anymore in Singapore, but heard long time ago they have...not sure though. Othar than cylinder and piston If I'm not wrong all parts are exactly the same as 400. I'm using 400 cylinder heads and crankcase cover, also clutch plate & discs.
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    Originally posted by cak@Apr 22 2006, 11:21 PM
    any bros here that has steed400 vlx manual?
    Try this:

    http://www.jericon.net/VT600C_1997-2001.pdf

    or,

    http://www.vt600.net/index.htm

    Its for 600 dual & single carbs, exactly the same for 400 except piston size.
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    Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 21 2006, 10:50 AM
    Is there any way of testing/checking whether the radiator's fan works? THanks!
    Never done this before but here's what I hv frm a friend in another forum:

    When the bike is hot (after at least a 10 minute ride) let it idle for 10 5-10 minutes, the fan should cycle on.
    If it does not cycle on within 10 minutes or so the thermo switch, wire or fan may be faulty.
    You can test the fan by simply removing the single wire from the thermostatic switch (on the bottom of the radiator) and using a jumper wire ground it out to the frame or engine. Turn on the key switch and the fan should come on.

    You can test the thermostatic switch by removing it; suspending it in a pot of coolant and using a thermometer and continuity tester bring the coolant to a boil and check the coolant temp at witch the switch opens.
    Thermostat begins open at 80-84 deg. celcius.
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    thanks dood
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    Originally posted by Ghost_VLX@Apr 22 2006, 11:30 PM
    Never done this before but here's what I hv frm a friend in another forum:

    thanks dude!

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    As what Ghost mention these are the facts and indeed these are the ways to check if the fans are working.

    Me myself noticed the fans working if bike were to park for a while and my bike were check also by using the same method as done by a mechanic.

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    Originally posted by Ghost_VLX@Apr 21 2006, 10:22 AM
    You can't use metal polish on it because it has clear coat. What I did was remove the coat with paint remover, sand the aluminium with 800, 1000, wet sand 1000 and wet sand 1500 until it's silky smooth, then use your favourite metal / aluminum polish to a mirror finish. No need to re coat with clear paint.
    I would recommend Mother's Mag & Aluminium polish. The shine holds up for many months with very little effort when polishing and touching up.
    Click the link at my sig below to view.
    ghost , is that a step by step method? Like i have to sand using a 800 then a 1000 followed by wet sand 1000 and 1500...

    And is the alumjinium polish 'Mother's Mag & Aluminium Polish readily available in hardware shops? If not, can you tell us where to get it...

    thanks.
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    Originally posted by cak@Apr 23 2006, 10:42 PM
    ghost , is that a step by step method? Like i have to sand using a 800 then a 1000 followed by wet sand 1000 and 1500...

    And is the alumjinium polish 'Mother's Mag & Aluminium Polish readily available in hardware shops? If not, can you tell us where to get it...

    thanks.
    Yes, thats step by step. Of course you hv to take the fork off first lol.

    One way to make the sanding easier: buy a small paint roller and attach it to a drill bits, then install to your drill. Roll the sandpaper to the paint roller, following rotation direction. Secure with rubber band at the bottom. Now you have a sanding machine. See picture below.
    The longer you spend on 1500 wet sand, the final result will be closer to mirror finish. When sanding on each step do it 2-3 times until all scratches frm the previous grit dissapear.

    It took me 1 day to finish forks, rear brake drum housing, front sprocket cover, hand controls and master cylinder.

    I got Mother's frm Ace hardware in Jakarta. Maybe Batam have? Definitely you can get it online frm US.
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    I wanna get this......

    http://www.texbrite.com/products/xtreem-me...olish-majic.htm

    but dun think singapore have leh......

    looking for something that can use to seal the chrom... so that water stains won't look so obvious.. or so hard to remove....

    anyone koe of such a product????

    thanks
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