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  1. After passing and getting the 2B licence after a few tries, I would like to share the techniques to clear the 5 courses in the SSDC circuit. 

    I would like to also include some tips of Road riding, which is the second part of the TP test.

    Allow me to start from the beginning.

    Turn on left signal. Check for traffic and check back and move off.

    Check right (turn your head right) at the first turn of the circuit shortly after you just move off. Switch off signal change to 2nd gear and then on right signal to prepare to go slope.

    1) Slope

    U can actually go at normal speed (1st or 2nd gear if already on the move) to go up the slope. (Remember to check right first). If you have difficulty not able to properly go up while halfway up the slope, you can throttle up a slight bit (but I do not think this will happen as there should be enough power)  I have previously stated to accelerate just before turning right to go up the slope but this might cause wide turning.

    Clutch in and brake and stop on the slope. Press on the foot brake so the bike does not roll backwards.

    Open the throttle. Release the clutch until the sound of the engine goes down.

    Maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. Check inwards and release foot brake.  Continue to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. The bike will move up the slope. 

    When the bike is about to go downslope on the other side, slowly release the clutch fully when the bike starts to go down the slope.

    Just before the stop line, brake and clutch in to stop the bike.

    Check traffic and check back and open throttle and release clutch to move off. Maintain and hold the throttle and clutch when it starts to move. When the bike goes halfway into the first lane, remember to check right first before turning.  Aim to move the bike to enter the centre / middle of the next lane. Remember to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. There is no need to throttle more / release more clutch.

    Continue to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch while moving from just now, after check right, turn right again and stop at the stop line , switch to left signal and get ready to do Figure 8.

     

    2) Figure 8

    Tip Check for incoming traffic by looking in front for any traffic first. This is to know if you need to stop at the exit at the end of the Figure 8. 

    Open throttle a bit more and move off hard cos you'll need to lower your speed turning left and entering the small lane leading to the Figure 8 course. You are not supposed to press brake when turning. So after moving off , switch to second gear and check left before entering the small lane to go towards the Figure 8.

    Once your bike is fully inside the small lane, switch off the signal.

    Control the throttle as you are just about to enter the Figure 8 as you need to make a quite sharp turn just before you enter. Once you are in the Figure 8 , steady the bike first, then control the speed and maintain it throughout. For me, I would look a few metres in front on the ground. Just before entering the second half of the Figure 8 course, switch to right signal and remember to check for traffic first by looking up (move your head) near the end.

    If there is traffic, stop after the dotted yellow line.

    If no traffic, remember to check left after entering the short lane just before exiting the Figure 8 course.

    After exiting Figure 8,  switch off signal and remember to go to 3rd gear while proceeding to Crank course.

    Remember to check left first as there is a sharp left turn just before the crank course. Remember to slow down so that you can make the sharp turn well to stop before the dotted yellow line, and try to stop at the top right corner if possible. This is so that you have enough room to make the left turn comfortably when you enter the crank course.

     

    3) Crank course

    Open throttle a bit more and move off, press the clutch and kick to second gear but DO NOT release the clutch yet.

    Once you enter the Crank course and steady the bike, SLOWLY release the clutch to engage second gear. If this is done correctly, there should be no loud engine sound and the bike will not stall.

    Then, change to right signal. If you have done everything correctly til this point, you should be in the middle of the crank course.

    Look up and check for traffic on the road in front, then as you turn the bike to the last part of the course, check for traffic on the left. Then turn your head to check for traffic on the right  just  before exiting.

    If there is traffic, stop after the dotted yellow line.

    If no traffic, remember to check right when your bike enters halfway in the first lane before turning right to the major road. You may want to throttle a bit when the bike is just exiting the course (if you are afraid the bike is too slow and stall) but you must be careful not to throttle too much or else you may be penalized.

    Stop slightly to the left by stopping your bike about the tip of the white arrow pointing left at the T junction, just before stop line.

    Check for traffic and remember to check left just before turning left. As you approach the box junction, remember to check traffic left and right (turn your head) 

    Proceed further and change to the right lane before turning right (again, remember to check right first). 

    Remember to check right again at the turn of the circuit (there are altogether 4 turns of the circuit) before reaching E brake course. 

     

    4) E-brake

    Check right before moving off.

    Change to second gear early. Open throttle slightly to let the speed increase naturally. Glance (don't move your head down) at the lights and make sure the green colour light lights up. This green colour light lights up when the speed is about 30 km/h. 

    Then, change to 3rd gear and maintain the throttle. Do not open the throttle too much. The speed should be around 31 to max 35km/h.

    Look at the yellow line in front and do the E brake when the tyre touches the line.

    Try to glance downwards to see when the front tyre touches the line, then your eyes should quickly look in front , CLOSE the throttle first and quickly apply both front and and rear brakes together and remember to straighten your arms at the same time. (or you will be penalized)

    Remember to clutch in just before the engine stalls. Remember your eyes should look in front, not down.

    Apply front brakes while changing back to gear 1.

    Check both mirrors and turn on right signal.

    Check back and move off.

    Upon reaching the stop line, you need to give way to incoming vehicles from the left side.

    Check traffic, check back and move off , remember to check right again just before entering the major road.

    You should change to 3rd gear while proceeding to the narrow plank course.

    Just before entering the narrow plank course, remember to turn on left signal and check left (to check for traffic coming out from the waiting area) and then check right (at the turn of the circuit).

    Switch off signal once you enter the narrow plank area.

     

    4) Narrow Plank

    There are a few different techniques to do this course. For me, I use the more commonly used "half-clutch" technique.

    Look straight far ahead maybe 500 m away.  For me , I would look at a tree that is very far away.

    Turn throttle just slightly.

    Release clutch slowly, just enough for the bike to move as this course need very slow speed. Maintain the throttle and clutch.

    Once you move off, grip the tank with both legs. This is very important so that you can achieve a good balance on the plank.

    Once you go up onto the plank, the bike will take a short while to lose speed and slow down. Then, I would steady the bike first before I  start to balance. When I feel the bike is going to lose balance, I would quickly throttle a bit. I will repeat this until the end.

    Let the front wheel of the bike touch the ground at the end of the plank before you clutch in, because as you may know, whenever you clutch in, the bike will move forward fast. So in this way, you can still put in some bit of time even at the end. Not to worry, there is enough distance after the plank for you to clutch in and stop before the stop line. 

    5) Pylon Slalom

    Remember to move off straight first , accelerate, change to second gear and position the bike towards the right edge when approaching the yellow line beside the first cone so that you have enough room to go pass between the two cones.

    Aim for the bike to go in the centre between each pair of cones.

    For me, I would look at all the 3 cones as a whole unit.

    So once I have cleared the first pair of cones, I would naturally quickly look ahead to repeat the same action on the other pairs of cones.

    After you have cleared the pylon course, remember to signal right and check your mirror for oncoming traffic on the right side. 

    If no traffic, check right just before going onto the major road.

    If got traffic, stop just before the dotted white lines. 

    Once you go onto the major road, switch off signal and check right (at the turn of the circuit) and then check right again at the next turn of the circuit, before going back to the waiting area. Remember to go to gear 1 and half-clutch as you go over the hump just as you enter the waiting area. And also look out for pedestrians at the zebra crossing inside the waiting area.

    Road Riding (2nd part of TP test)

    If you manage to "survive" the circuit section, the TP testers will allow you to go for the road riding section.

    1) Turning 

    Before you move off, always check traffic first (turn your head left & right) and check back.

    At the slope just after coming out of SSDC, you need to check inwards before moving off. 

    Every time after you have moved off, remember to check left / right just before you make the left / right turn.

    At the box junctions, you need to check back left cos there is a kerb on your right side and you are turning right. 

    2) Changing lane

    You would be riding in the centre of the lane, on the body of the arrow. 

    Signal left / right first.

    Then, check mirror and blind spot.

    If traffic is clear, move towards the edge of the lane, just beside the white dotted lines.

    Check mirror and blind spot again, then slowly enter the next lane. This is to avoid any "abrupt lane changing".

    3) U-turn

    If you are already moving , u need to slow down and change to 2nd gear.

    When the handle bar is about in line with the edge of the kerb, check right, then perform the U turn. You can maintain the speed and be able to U turn into the centre of the next lane. Remember to look up (not down) and in front at the next lane that you are turning into.

    Signal left after the whole bike enters the next lane, cos you will need to change to the left lane, but remember you can only change after the zebra crossing zig zag line. 

    4) Zebra crossings

    Just before entering the filter lane leading to the zebra crossing, check left (for oncoming pedestrians/ cyclists/ PMD riders) , slow down and change to 2nd gear as you are near to zebra crossing, turn your head left and right to check for pedestrians / cyclists / PMD riders, after you have gone past the zebra crossing, check for traffic.

    Remember to check left just before you cross the dashed give way lines to go onto the main road.

    Good luck !

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  2. 4 hours ago, Xmaxer said:

    @wishforastar wont quote ur whole post as it is super long but that's very very helpful to any newbie riders looking to get their 2b license.. thanx for posting that. so when u going for 2a/2? finish it all!!

    My intention is actually to use the licence to rent bike overseas, not really for riding in SG. So i dun think i will go further.

    2B is really a long journey for me.. I think the TP test is also super strict. 

    Just curious, my previous unsuccessful TP all got points for those circuit courses with timing but the one i passed did not get.

    Anyone passed TP but got points for those courses with timing? 

  3. The below is actually a post I put previously but I would like to make some edits because I cannot edit the previous post already (cos too long ago). After passing and getting the 2B licence after a few tries, I would like to share the techniques to clear the 5 courses in the SSDC circuit.

    I would like to also include some tips of Road riding, which is the second section of the TP test.

    Allow me to start from the beginning.

    Turn on left signal. Check for traffic and check back and move off.

    Check right (turn your head right) at the first turn of the circuit shortly after you just move off. Switch off signal change to 2nd gear and then on right signal to prepare to go slope.

    1) Slope

    U can actually go at normal speed (1st or 2nd gear if already on the move) to go up the slope. (Remember to check right first). If you have difficulty not able to properly go up while halfway up the slope, you can throttle up a slight bit (but I do not think this will happen as there should be enough power)  I have previously stated to accelerate just before turning right to go up the slope but this might cause wide turning.

    Clutch in and brake and stop on the slope. Press on the foot brake so the bike does not roll backwards.

    Open the throttle. Release the clutch until the sound of the engine goes down.

    Maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. Check inwards and release foot brake.  Continue to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. The bike will move up the slope. 

    When the bike is about to go downslope on the other side, slowly release the clutch fully when the bike starts to go down the slope.

    Just before the stop line, brake and clutch in to stop the bike.

    Check traffic and check back and open throttle and release clutch to move off. Maintain and hold the throttle and clutch when it starts to move. When the bike goes halfway into the first lane, remember to check right first before turning.  Aim to move the bike to enter the centre / middle of the next lane. Remember to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. There is no need to throttle more / release more clutch.

    Continue to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch while moving from just now, after check right, turn right again and stop at the stop line , switch to left signal and get ready to do Figure 8.

     

    2) Figure 8

    Tip Check for incoming traffic by looking in front for any traffic first. This is to know if you need to stop at the exit at the end of the Figure 8. 

    Open throttle a bit more and move off hard cos you'll need to lower your speed turning left and entering the small lane leading to the Figure 8 course. You are not supposed to press brake when turning. So after moving off , switch to second gear and check left before entering the small lane to go towards the Figure 8.

    Once your bike is fully inside the small lane, switch off the signal.

    Control the throttle as you are just about to enter the Figure 8 as you need to make a quite sharp turn just before you enter. Once you are in the Figure 8 , steady the bike first, then control the speed and maintain it throughout. For me, I would look a few metres in front on the ground. Just before entering the second half of the Figure 8 course, switch to right signal and remember to check for traffic first by looking up (move your head) near the end.

    If there is traffic, stop after the dotted yellow line.

    If no traffic, remember to check left after entering the short lane just before exiting the Figure 8 course.

    After exiting Figure 8,  switch off signal and remember to go to 3rd gear while proceeding to Crank course.

    Remember to check left first as there is a sharp left turn just before the crank course. Remember to slow down so that you can make the sharp turn well to stop before the dotted yellow line, and try to stop at the top right corner if possible. This is so that you have enough room to make the left turn comfortably when you enter the crank course.

     

    3) Crank course

    Open throttle a bit more and move off, press the clutch and kick to second gear but DO NOT release the clutch yet.

    Once you enter the Crank course and steady the bike, SLOWLY release the clutch to engage second gear. If this is done correctly, there should be no loud engine sound and the bike will not stall.

    Then, change to right signal. If you have done everything correctly til this point, you should be in the middle of the crank course.

    Look up and check for traffic on the road in front, then as you turn the bike to the last part of the course, check for traffic on the left. Then turn your head to check for traffic on the right  just  before exiting.

    If there is traffic, stop after the dotted yellow line.

    If no traffic, remember to check right when your bike enters halfway in the first lane before turning right to the major road. You may want to throttle a bit when the bike is just exiting the course (if you are afraid the bike is too slow and stall) but you must be careful not to throttle too much or else you may be penalized.

    Stop slightly to the left by stopping your bike about the tip of the white arrow pointing left at the T junction, just before stop line.

    Check for traffic and remember to check left just before turning left. As you approach the box junction, remember to check traffic left and right (turn your head) 

    Proceed further and change to the right lane before turning right (again, remember to check right first). 

    Remember to check right again at the turn of the circuit (there are altogether 4 turns of the circuit) before reaching E brake course. 

     

    4) E-brake

    Check right before moving off.

    Change to second gear early. Open throttle slightly to let the speed increase naturally. Glance (don't move your head down) at the lights and make sure the green colour light lights up. This green colour light lights up when the speed is about 30 km/h. 

    Then, change to 3rd gear and maintain the throttle. Do not open the throttle too much. The speed should be around 31 to max 35km/h.

    Look at the yellow line in front and do the E brake when the tyre touches the line.

    Try to glance downwards to see when the front tyre touches the line, then your eyes should quickly look in front , CLOSE the throttle first and quickly apply both front and and rear brakes together and remember to straighten your arms at the same time. (or you will be penalized)

    Remember to clutch in just before the engine stalls. Remember your eyes should look in front, not down.

    Apply front brakes while changing back to gear 1.

    Check both mirrors and turn on right signal.

    Check back and move off.

    Upon reaching the stop line, you need to give way to incoming vehicles from the left side.

    Check traffic, check back and move off , remember to check right again just before entering the major road.

    You should change to 3rd gear while proceeding to the narrow plank course.

    Just before entering the narrow plank course, remember to turn on left signal and check left (to check for traffic coming out from the waiting area) and then check right (at the turn of the circuit).

    Switch off signal once you enter the narrow plank area.

     

    4) Narrow Plank

    There are a few different techniques to do this course. For me, I use the more commonly used "half-clutch" technique.

    Look straight far ahead maybe 500 m away.  For me , I would look at a tree that is very far away.

    Turn throttle just slightly.

    Release clutch slowly, just enough for the bike to move as this course need very slow speed. Maintain the throttle and clutch.

    Once you move off, grip the tank with both legs. This is very important so that you can achieve a good balance on the plank.

    Once you go up onto the plank, the bike will take a short while to lose speed and slow down. Then, I would steady the bike and start to balance. When I feel the bike is going to lose balance, I would quickly throttle a bit. I will repeat this until the end. Let the front wheel of the bike touch the ground at the end of the plank before you clutch in, because as you may know, whenever you clutch in, the bike will move forward fast. So in this way, you can still put in some bit of time even at the end. Not to worry, there is enough distance after the plank for you to clutch in and stop before the stop line. 

    5) Pylon Slalom

    Remember to move off straight first , accelerate, change to second gear and position the bike towards the right edge when approaching the yellow line beside the first cone so that you have enough room to go pass between the two cones.

    Aim for the bike to go in the centre between each pair of cones.

    For me, I would look at all the 3 cones as a whole unit.

    So once I have cleared the first pair of cones, I would naturally quickly look ahead to repeat the same action on the other pairs of cones.

    After you have cleared the pylon course, remember to signal right and check your mirror for oncoming traffic on the right side. 

    If no traffic, check right just before going onto the major road.

    If got traffic, stop just before the dotted white lines. 

    Once you go onto the major road, switch off signal and check right (at the turn of the circuit) and then check right again at the next turn of the circuit, before going back to the waiting area. Remember to go to gear 1 and half-clutch as you go over the hump just as you enter the waiting area. And also look out for pedestrians at the zebra crossing inside the waiting area.

    Good luck !

    Road Riding (2nd part of TP test)

    If you manage to "survive" the circuit section, the TP testers will allow you to go for the road riding section.

    1) Turning 

    Before you move off, always check traffic first (turn your head left & right) and check back.

    At the slope just after coming out of SSDC, you need to check inwards before moving off. 

    Every time after you have moved off, remember to check left / right just before you make the left / right turn.

    At the box junctions, you need to check back left cos there is a kerb on your right side and you are turning right. 

    2) Changing lane

    You would be riding in the centre of the lane, on the body of the arrow. 

    Signal left / right first.

    Then, check mirror and blind spot.

    If traffic is clear, move towards the edge of the lane, just beside the white dotted lines.

    Check mirror and blind spot again, then slowly enter the next lane. This is to avoid any "abrupt lane changing".

    3) U-turn

    If you are already moving , u need to slow down and change to 2nd gear.

    When the handle bar is about in line with the edge of the kerb, check right, then perform the U turn. You can maintain the speed and be able to U turn into the centre of the next lane. Remember to look up (not down) and in front at the next lane that you are turning into.

    Signal left after the whole bike enters the next lane, cos you will need to change to the left lane, but remember you can only change after the zebra crossing zig zag line. 

    4) Zebra crossings

    Just before entering the filter lane leading to the zebra crossing, check left (for oncoming pedestrians/ cyclists/ PMD riders) , slow down and change to 2nd gear as you are near to zebra crossing, turn your head left and right to check for pedestrians / cyclists / PMD riders, after you have gone past the zebra crossing, check for traffic.

    Remember to check left just before you cross the dashed give way lines to go onto the main road.

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  4. 10 hours ago, cajunx said:

    So after my orientation today morning i try to book for practical 1 for class 2b but earliest is jan 3th at ssdc but luckily i waited noon and i saw someone sell their slot at night same day,  For you guys is practical 1 class 2b must wait more than 2 weeks when you guys book it during covid? Now if i bought on 3rd jan i cannot see if other will sell it last minutes thats why wondering if can be lucky again.

    For SSDC, the normal waiting time is about 2 weeks to see free slots to book lessons. The person can "try sell" his lesson if last minute he cannot make it. So this will depend on luck and u have to check regularly to see if someone cannot make it last minute and you want to have your lesson earlier.

  5. Having been to CDC to look around and taken the 2B course at SSDC ,  in comparison, I feel SSDC is much better and newer (cos it was built in 2010) as it has a covered circuit on level 1 which is very useful in times of rain. You will be on this level 1 for your circuit revision lessons, which is also the actual test circuit for SSDC. Also, the circuit is very large, much bigger than CDC's circuit. Last but not least, SSDC provides helmets, elbow and knee guards free, of cos, they are shared by many others also. The only con is the location is at Admiralty. You have to take a 5 minute free shuttle bus from Admiralty MRT to reach there. 

  6. 21 minutes ago, JJBuBBle said:

    If you are moving on for class 2A bikes, it will be a good option for 2nd hand manual as you have the intention of upgrading to 2A bike after you pass. 

    If under installment try not to drag to long.

    Have a feel and pratices of manual transmission is always a good choice for clutch control, but all bikes have different biting point so familar with it will be beneficial later.

    Oh, I'm really a noob at bikes cos my original intention was just for overseas rental of bikes..

    And looking at the current prices for bikes are like close to 10k ?? 

    I don't need a bike for daily commuting, perhaps renting a bike ? again I'm a noob here.. any advise where to rent a bike ?

  7. On 12/12/2020 at 6:31 AM, Pisces44 said:

    1 yr later class 2A

    So if we are going to go for Class 2A 1 year later, should we get a second hand 2B bike instead of first hand ? manual gear only?

  8. 12 hours ago, Xmaxer said:

    i have been there before and rented a motorcycle too but just to ride around sabah and sarawak as was visiting friends and family. it is a very beautiful place and u should definitely do it when u get a chance to. you can actually cover sabah, sarawak, borneo, brunei, and many other places. a quick google search shows that there are many biking tours in KK and packages are around 2k+ usd for a 7 day trip which is very value for money. 

    Borneo motorcycle tours | MotoAsia

    Borneo Biking Adventures

    when are you planning to go ? after circuit breaker of course.. maybe i can see u there :) would love to bring my xmax there but unfortunately will be too costly.

    some good youtube videos also to prepare u for what you can enjoy in borneo. they travelled 2600km around borneo!!!

     

     

    Hi,

    Thanks for the info, but I think I'm looking more at day trips haha... cos I only got 2B licence.

  9. On 12/10/2020 at 10:02 PM, snsd555 said:

    Congrats! 1 more year to signing up for Class 2A!

    Have you bought a bike or decided on what bike to buy?

    Actually I'm using the licence to rent bike when I travel overseas. Although there are many places that do not require a licence to rent a bike, there are some places that do need it, especially those established, reputable places.

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  10.  

    9 hours ago, DRZ_b0i said:

    ya but only 2b license right? unless he own big bike before and can proof ownership that is longer than 1 year. btw did he have to do the riding simulator when he convert his license? or just do the theory test?

    actually if they have a singapore driving license and a australia motorcycle license, still need to do theory test? cos to have the singapore driving license need to have already pass the theory test

    He got his car licence overseas, not bike licence. But it's a bit strange cos I read the rules again , he should need to take the practical test also cos he is singaporean and staying here to work long term.

  11. On 12/10/2020 at 7:10 PM, DRZ_b0i said:

    yes possible. i have friend who have license in australia and malaysia came back and able to convert. but they will only give you class 2b license unless u prove ownership of a >200cc bike for more than a year or something like that.

    if u r going overseas to study, or live part time in malaysia.. u can consider the above methods

    Yes, I also had a friend who was studying overseas and he got his car licence there ... when he came back to singapore, he just have to convert it to a local licence, no need to go through the practical test... And Singapore has one of the most (if not the most) toughest / strictest driving tests in the world.

  12. 23 hours ago, wishforastar said:

    I finally passed and got my 2B licence !

    I took the TP a few times already and was quite demoralized already .... and this time when I finished the circuit section I felt I did some big mistakes and was going to not make it again.. but in the end, i made it haha. I remembered reading one post in this forum someone tried many times also and got the licence so that gave me some motivation to press on...

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  13. On 8/23/2020 at 4:40 PM, wishforastar said:

    The below is actually a post I put previously but I would like to make some edits because I cannot edit the previous post already (cos too long ago). After passing and getting the 2B licence after a few tries, I would like to share the techniques to clear the 5 courses in the SSDC circuit. Allow me to start from the beginning.

    Turn on left signal. Check for traffic and check back and move off.

    Check right (turn your head right) at the first turn of the circuit shortly after you just move off. Switch off signal change to 2nd gear and then on right signal to prepare to go slope.

    1) Slope

    U can actually go at normal speed (1st or 2nd gear if already on the move) to go up the slope. (Remember to check right first). If you have difficulty not able to properly go up while halfway up the slope, you can throttle up a slight bit (but I do not think this will happen as there should be enough power)  I have previously stated to accelerate just before turning right to go up the slope but this might cause wide turning.

    Clutch in and brake and stop on the slope. Press on the foot brake so the bike does not roll backwards.

    Open the throttle. Release the clutch until the sound of the engine goes down.

    Maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. Check inwards and release foot brake.  Continue to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. The bike will move up the slope. 

    When the bike is about to go downslope on the other side, slowly release the clutch fully when the bike starts to go down the slope.

    Just before the stop line, brake and clutch in to stop the bike.

    Check traffic and check back and open throttle and release clutch to move off. Maintain and hold the throttle and clutch when it starts to move. When the bike goes halfway into the first lane, remember to check right first before turning.  Aim to move the bike to enter the centre / middle of the next lane. Remember to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch. There is no need to throttle more / release more clutch.

    Continue to maintain and hold the throttle and clutch while moving from just now, after check right, turn right again and stop at the stop line , switch to left signal and get ready to do Figure 8.

     

    2) Figure 8

    Tip Check for incoming traffic by looking in front for any traffic first. This is to know if you need to stop at the exit at the end of the Figure 8. 

    Open throttle a bit more and move off hard cos you'll need to lower your speed turning left and entering the small lane leading to the Figure 8 course. You are not supposed to press brake when turning. So after moving off , switch to second gear and check left before entering the small lane to go towards the Figure 8.

    Once your bike is fully inside the small lane, switch off the signal.

    Control the throttle as you are just about to enter the Figure 8 as you need to make a quite sharp turn just before you enter. Once you are in the Figure 8 , steady the bike first, then control the speed and maintain it throughout. For me, I would look a few metres in front on the ground. Just before entering the second half of the Figure 8 course, switch to right signal and remember to check for traffic first by looking up (move your head) near the end.

    If there is traffic, stop after the dotted yellow line.

    If no traffic, remember to check left after entering the short lane just before exiting the Figure 8 course.

    After exiting Figure 8,  switch off signal and remember to go to 3rd gear while proceeding to Crank course.

    Remember to check left first as there is a sharp left turn just before the crank course. Remember to slow down so that you can make the sharp turn well to stop before the dotted yellow line, and try to stop at the top right corner if possible. This is so that you have enough room to make the left turn comfortably when you enter the crank course.

     

    3) Crank course

    Open throttle a bit more and move off, press the clutch and kick to second gear but DO NOT release the clutch yet.

    Once you enter the Crank course and steady the bike, SLOWLY release the clutch to engage second gear. If this is done correctly, there should be no loud engine sound and the bike will not stall.

    Then, change to right signal. If you have done everything correctly til this point, you should be in the middle of the crank course.

    Look up and check for traffic on the road in front, then as you turn the bike to the last part of the course, check for traffic on the left. Then turn your head to check for traffic on the right  just  before exiting.

    If there is traffic, stop after the dotted yellow line.

    If no traffic, remember to check right when your bike enters halfway in the first lane before turning right to the major road. You may want to throttle a bit when the bike is just exiting the course (if you are afraid the bike is too slow and stall) but you must be careful not to throttle too much or else you may be penalized.

    Stop slightly to the left by stopping your bike about the tip of the white arrow pointing left at the T junction, just before stop line.

    Check for traffic and remember to check left just before turning left. As you approach the box junction, remember to check traffic left and right (turn your head) 

    Proceed further and change to the right lane before turning right (again, remember to check right first). 

    Remember to check right again at the turn of the circuit (there are altogether 4 turns of the circuit) before reaching E brake course. 

     

    4) E-brake

    Check right before moving off.

    Change to second gear early. Open throttle slightly to let the speed increase naturally. Glance (don't move your head down) at the lights and make sure the green colour light lights up. This green colour light lights up when the speed is about 30 km/h. 

    Then, change to 3rd gear and maintain the throttle. Do not open the throttle too much. The speed should be around 31 to max 35km/h.

    Look at the yellow line in front and do the E brake when the tyre touches the line.

    Try to glance downwards to see when the front tyre touches the line, then your eyes should quickly look in front , CLOSE the throttle first and quickly apply both front and and rear brakes together and remember to straighten your arms at the same time. (or you will be penalized)

    Remember to clutch in just before the engine stalls. Remember your eyes should look in front, not down.

    Apply front brakes while changing back to gear 1.

    Check both mirrors and turn on right signal.

    Check back and move off.

    Upon reaching the stop line, you need to give way to incoming vehicles from the left side.

    Check traffic, check back and move off , remember to check right again just before entering the major road.

    You should change to 3rd gear while proceeding to the narrow plank course.

    Just before entering the narrow plank course, remember to turn on left signal and check left (to check for traffic coming out from the waiting area) and then check right (at the turn of the circuit).

    Switch off signal once you enter the narrow plank area.

     

    4) Narrow Plank

    There are a few different techniques to do this course. For me, I use the more commonly used "half-clutch" technique.

    Look straight far ahead maybe 500 m away.  For me , I would look at a tree that is very far away.

    Turn throttle just slightly.

    Release clutch slowly, just enough for the bike to move as this course need very slow speed. Maintain the throttle and clutch.

    Once you move off, grip the tank with both legs. This is very important so that you can achieve a good balance on the plank.

    Once you go up onto the plank, the bike will take a short while to lose speed and slow down. Then, I would steady the bike and start to balance. When I feel the bike is going to lose balance, I would quickly throttle a bit. I will repeat this until the end. Let the front wheel of the bike touch the ground at the end of the plank before you clutch in, because as you may know, whenever you clutch in, the bike will move forward fast. So in this way, you can still put in some bit of time even at the end. Not to worry, there is enough distance after the plank for you to clutch in and stop before the stop line. 

    5) Pylon Slalom

    Remember to move off straight first , accelerate, change to second gear and position the bike towards the right edge when approaching the yellow line beside the first cone so that you have enough room to go pass between the two cones.

    Aim for the bike to go in the centre between each pair of cones.

    For me, I would look at all the 3 cones as a whole unit.

    So once I have cleared the first pair of cones, I would naturally quickly look ahead to repeat the same action on the other pairs of cones.

    After you have cleared the pylon course, remember to signal right and check your mirror for oncoming traffic on the right side. 

    If no traffic, check right just before going onto the major road.

    If got traffic, stop just before the dotted white lines. 

    Once you go onto the major road, switch off signal and check right (at the turn of the circuit) and then check right again at the next turn of the circuit, before going back to the waiting area. Remember to go to gear 1 and half-clutch as you go over the hump just as you enter the waiting area. And also look out for pedestrians at the zebra crossing inside the waiting area.

    Good luck !

     

     

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  14. On 12/7/2020 at 2:30 PM, SB said:

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    How have things been going on the journey of getting your 2B license? A lot of exam dates are backed up due to the Circuit Breaker situation. Hope all has been well?

    Good luck for your TP and hang in there, it's not a matter of IF, but a matter of WHEN!

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    After a few attempts at TP, I have finally managed to pass !

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  15. Start faster use footbrake better than too slow and stall or footed or drop bike. Some people can immediately change 2nd gear do u-turn just observe.

     

    I was referring more to U turn on first gear half clutch.

     

    I tried tapping on foot brake if speed too fast but think does not really work for me maybe...I think I closed the clutch slightly to slow down the bike halfway (if too fast) thru the turn before I complete the turn.

  16. When you move off, you are required to move off straight. Do not move to the right first.

     

    After you have moved off straight, then you move your bike to the right and accelerate in preparation to do the cones.

     

    Look at all 3 cones as a whole, then aim to go in the middle of every two cones. I look at all the cones and think of them as a whole, so after I clear the first two cones, I would react immediately to clear the next two cones and so on.

     

    For Figure of 8 , I tend to increase speed when I enter the curves but I think I might have overdone it cos it feels a bit hard to control as I continue thru the course. I think I should just maintain the speed naturally. I will try in the next revision lesson.

     

    My other issue now is the U turn on the road. I tend to go wide and almost go out of the lane. Just to remind everyone, u need to control the clutch, throttle, handlebar and also lean your body weight slightly to the right as you are turning. My friend who also rides bikes, advised me to open throttle but not to release so much clutch cos the clutch gives the bike forward acceleration. So the clutch should be released just enough for the bike to move and the throttle can be opened more if needed so that overall just enough movement to make the U turn.

     

    After going for some more practice, I was right about maintaining a natural speed to go through the Figure 8. The timing is ok . As for U-turn, I can't do it very smoothly maybe cos I moved off a bit too fast, I kind of stopped a bit by controlling the throttle / clutch and thereby adjusting halfway through the turn, so in the end I was still able to complete the U turn and enter the center of the lane.

  17. When you move off, you are required to move off straight. Do not move to the right first.

     

    After you have moved off straight, then you move your bike to the right and accelerate in preparation to do the cones.

     

    Look at all 3 cones as a whole, then aim to go in the middle of every two cones. I look at all the cones and think of them as a whole, so after I clear the first two cones, I would react immediately to clear the next two cones and so on.

     

    For Figure of 8 , I tend to increase speed when I enter the curves but I think I might have overdone it cos it feels a bit hard to control as I continue thru the course. I think I should just maintain the speed naturally. I will try in the next revision lesson.

     

    My other issue now is the U turn on the road. I tend to go wide and almost go out of the lane. Just to remind everyone, u need to control the clutch, throttle, handlebar and also lean your body weight slightly to the right as you are turning. My friend who also rides bikes, advised me to open throttle but not to release so much clutch cos the clutch gives the bike forward acceleration. So the clutch should be released just enough for the bike to move and the throttle can be opened more if needed so that overall just enough movement to make the U turn.

     

    Went for the revision lesson. For Figure 8, I will slow down naturally after making the left turn and control the throttle when entering the curves... then once the speed is fixed, maintain the speed throughout. I think I just managed to make the timing.

     

    For U turn, I still have issue.. still turning wide, I will try to release the clutch less...

     

    Need another lesson or two to practise..

  18. There are many ways to do it. I heard some people can go thru all cones without accelerating at all. Personally i would have a more aggressive approach and accelarate, brake and turn then accelerate, brake turn, repeat until clear. After awhile you will get the feel of doing it really fast. When you brake the bike will want to turn easier but you need to accelerate again in order to prevent the bike from stalling or falling down.

     

    This video shows roughly the technique on setting records for pylon slalom:

     

    When you move off, you are required to move off straight. Do not move to the right first.

     

    After you have moved off straight, then you move your bike to the right and accelerate in preparation to do the cones.

     

    Look at all 3 cones as a whole, then aim to go in the middle of every two cones. I look at all the cones and think of them as a whole, so after I clear the first two cones, I would react immediately to clear the next two cones and so on.

     

    For Figure of 8 , I tend to increase speed when I enter the curves but I think I might have overdone it cos it feels a bit hard to control as I continue thru the course. I think I should just maintain the speed naturally. I will try in the next revision lesson.

     

    My other issue now is the U turn on the road. I tend to go wide and almost go out of the lane. Just to remind everyone, u need to control the clutch, throttle, handlebar and also lean your body weight slightly to the right as you are turning. My friend who also rides bikes, advised me to open throttle but not to release so much clutch cos the clutch gives the bike forward acceleration. So the clutch should be released just enough for the bike to move and the throttle can be opened more if needed so that overall just enough movement to make the U turn.

  19. yea same... need to look down also.. for now can only avoid those bikes that I had bad encounter with, or suck thumb and try as much to adapt as possible lor.. anyway bro do you have any more tips for pylon slalom course? went for my prac 2 ytd, slope and plank no problem but my timing for pylon always 6.2sec, 6.3sec. speed to slow but when i tried to throttle abit more, first time i skipped one cone, next i langah cone hahaha. i tried to lean more but perhaps still not enough?

     

    For me, if I aim to go in the middle between two cones, I normally can meet the timing. Try to look further so that you can plan further, once you clear the first two cones, you can go on towards the next two cones.

     

    But ultimately, it's about having a "feel" for the bike. You will achieve this "feel" after riding it for a long time. Don't have to ride continuously but on and off and understanding how to maneuvre the bike successfully. After my last ride, it was a long time before I ride again, and I could get the "feel" better each time.

  20. Yea I also find this 190cc too powerful for class 2B learners. Plus quite heavy and the tank quite wide also leh.. Dry-weight already 140kg.. I've seen female learners who didnt manage to chope the MSX125 and had to use this Cb190R, couldnt even pick the bike up after dropping it. everytime mount and dismount the bike I also feel abit unstable (maybe my legs short la hahaha)

     

     

     

     

     

    we did highlight to the instructor that day, but he only brushed the both of us off, saying the problem lies in our legs, we dunno the correct technique of upshifting :sian:

     

    When I first tried this new 190 bike, of course I asked for a change back to the white 125cc bike but he say "no".

     

    About the signal lights, I really wish they could make the switch harder to flick. Whenever I need to signal, I would now have to look down to make sure the signal is activated.

  21. The current batch of CB190R also quite bad i think. For 2 lessons in a row, even after I choosing different bikes for both lessons, both bikes had the same problem: 1) gearbox not responsive when up-shifting, can feel the "click" but the gear didnt really engaged. end up I had to kick upwards sibeh hard until my foot had a bruise for a few days. 2) signal lights not working, had to push left/right sibeh hard then signal lights will turn on.

     

    One guy from my class also had the same problem with his bike. Very pekcek....

     

    Hopefully when comes to TP test the bikes condition wont be like this.. if not can jiak sai alrdy

     

    I find that this 190cc bike is maybe too powerful to handle for class 2B ? For U turn and Figure 8, I could control the speed better with the former 125cc white bike. But I feel it's more difficult with this 190cc bike. Also, I have a similar issue with the signal lights. Because the switch is very flimsy, so sometimes if you flick it too fast (cos need to change signal during Figure 8 and crank course), the signal is not activated. For the former 125cc white bike, the signal switch is harder to flick , so if u flick it fast, the signal is activated. Overall, I prefer the former 125cc white bike, or rather, they should have used a 125cc bike instead of a 190cc bike. I saw the 125cc version of the bike on level 1 in the display box. They should have used that instead for class 2B !

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