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is Paiseh and Limbat still around....or anyone noe how to install HID on X1, i can't seems to able start the HID when the cable is plug in to the headlight plug, but on the hand, i can start when i take the connection from the ignition key cable. my bikes is using AC cdi.

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13 Jun 2011 - Till Now (X1)

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Hi all, I've been on my 2nd set of HIDs since last posted here. And if anyone is interested in HIDs, my advice is please don't waste your time if you do not have projectors.

 

Firstly, the headlight reflectors were never designed to run on HID, which means the light will be shooting in all kinds of direction which it shouldn't. Some bikes have reflectors that focus the HID better than others which spread it all over, but the bottomline is if it does not have a projector, it will not work properly.

 

Secondly, loss of hi-beam. Some H4 HID bulbs come with a small halogen bulb to act as a hi-beam, IT IS NOT ENOUGH. The HID is very bright and the yellowish halogen bulb light CMI as a hi-beam beside the HID.

 

Thirdly, It is dangerous when you do not have a stronger hi-beam than low beam. Because of the bright headlight drivers will mistaken you as very near when u are still very far, but when they can't see u in their blindspot and changelane, you can't Hi-beam properly. This is from experience.

 

Fourth, It is a MYTH that when using a HID kit with conventional lenses, it is enough to adjust/lower the headlight. It is NEVER ENOUGH. Because when using this setup, light will still shoot up high beyond the adjusting capabilities of the headlight adjusting mechanism.

 

Fifth, It causes glare to over road users NO MATTER WHAT U DO. Unless you have projectors. The whole world will hate you. It's already enough to have assho1e riders and drivers OTR, if you install a HID w/o proj, it makes you a CHEAP assho1e. (If you feel offended, this is the single most justified reason why lawmakers do not allow HID locally.)

 

 

 

Having transited from noobish HID user to a more informed user, i will share the pro's of the projector mated to HID. I am using a replica BMW E46 projector headlight. The differences are:

 

1. Light is saturated where you want it and beautiful cutoff. Nothing above the level where you are pointing and all the light focused below.

 

2. If you think your HID is very bright, the projector makes it even better plus in the right places.

 

3.No glare, as the cutoff is very straight and defined, you will not shoot other drivers in the eyes unless upslope which even original car HID proj system does the same.

 

4.Hi-beam. The Hi and low beam shares the same light but top half the light is blocked by a flap(metal piece) in low-beam position and rotates to unblock in hi-beam. The flap is controlled by a electro-magnet system which works super fast like a camera shutter. Instant Hi-beam camera-like flash when you hit the button, as compared to if u install HID in hi-beam and it takes 10-30secs to startup.

 

 

 

 

 

 

All in all, if you want to spend some money to make yourself see and be seen better, might as well go all the way and install a projector. The projector costs as much as one side of HID. So instead of installing two HIDs for dual headlights, you are far waaay better off installing only one side with projector for the same total costs. And please use only projector with mechanical hi&low beam system, not those low beam only.

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Hi all, I've been on my 2nd set of HIDs since last posted here. And if anyone is interested in HIDs, my advice is please don't waste your time if you do not have projectors.

 

Firstly, the headlight reflectors were never designed to run on HID, which means the light will be shooting in all kinds of direction which it shouldn't. Some bikes have reflectors that focus the HID better than others which spread it all over, but the bottomline is if it does not have a projector, it will not work properly.

 

Secondly, loss of hi-beam. Some H4 HID bulbs come with a small halogen bulb to act as a hi-beam, IT IS NOT ENOUGH. The HID is very bright and the yellowish halogen bulb light CMI as a hi-beam beside the HID.

 

Thirdly, It is dangerous when you do not have a stronger hi-beam than low beam. Because of the bright headlight drivers will mistaken you as very near when u are still very far, but when they can't see u in their blindspot and changelane, you can't Hi-beam properly. This is from experience.

 

Fourth, It is a MYTH that when using a HID kit with conventional lenses, it is enough to adjust/lower the headlight. It is NEVER ENOUGH. Because when using this setup, light will still shoot up high beyond the adjusting capabilities of the headlight adjusting mechanism.

 

Fifth, It causes glare to over road users NO MATTER WHAT U DO. Unless you have projectors. The whole world will hate you. It's already enough to have assho1e riders and drivers OTR, if you install a HID w/o proj, it makes you a CHEAP assho1e. (If you feel offended, this is the single most justified reason why lawmakers do not allow HID locally.)

 

 

 

Having transited from noobish HID user to a more informed user, i will share the pro's of the projector mated to HID. I am using a replica BMW E46 projector headlight. The differences are:

 

1. Light is saturated where you want it and beautiful cutoff. Nothing above the level where you are pointing and all the light focused below.

 

2. If you think your HID is very bright, the projector makes it even better plus in the right places.

 

3.No glare, as the cutoff is very straight and defined, you will not shoot other drivers in the eyes unless upslope which even original car HID proj system does the same.

 

4.Hi-beam. The Hi and low beam shares the same light but top half the light is blocked by a flap(metal piece) in low-beam position and rotates to unblock in hi-beam. The flap is controlled by a electro-magnet system which works super fast like a camera shutter. Instant Hi-beam camera-like flash when you hit the button, as compared to if u install HID in hi-beam and it takes 10-30secs to startup.

 

 

 

 

 

 

All in all, if you want to spend some money to make yourself see and be seen better, might as well go all the way and install a projector. The projector costs as much as one side of HID. So instead of installing two HIDs for dual headlights, you are far waaay better off installing only one side with projector for the same total costs. And please use only projector with mechanical hi&low beam system, not those low beam only.

 

i agree with you. projectors for HID. but i am damn sure many pple are happy when their HID light throws everywhere.. irritating the road users in front of them.

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I ask a question n I get reply which does not Ans my question with so much write up.

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01 Mar 2006 - 04 Jul 2006 (FS9367L, FJ7457X & FJ*5**)(CBR 919 RRW, Hurricane &Vespa PX200)

04 Jul 2006 - 13 Jun 2011 (FV8507R & FJ*5**)(Suzuki K2 & Vespa PX200)

13 Jun 2011 - Till Now (X1)

15 Jan 2013 - 10 Sept 2015 (FBG9588B)(GTR1400 2013)

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is Paiseh and Limbat still around....or anyone noe how to install HID on X1, i can't seems to able start the HID when the cable is plug in to the headlight plug, but on the hand, i can start when i take the connection from the ignition key cable. my bikes is using AC cdi.

 

Did U try building a No/Off switch when cable is plung into Headlight plug? I think it may be drawing too much amps on ignition !!!

 

I ask a question n I get reply which does not Ans my question with so much write up.

 

hahaha .... no worries mate - they hv a point maaaaa

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How haf u been limbat? Muz meet up for Kopi.No I do not have switch, My intention is jus use the headlight switch hi-beam The problem is my bike headlight will only light when I start my bike. If I connect the hid to my key ignition n ground it, I got no problem firing up. My fren say the bike is using AC supply for the head light.

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24 Nov 2004 - 28 Feb 2006 (FJ7457X & FJ*5**) (Hurricane & Vespa PX200)

01 Mar 2006 - 04 Jul 2006 (FS9367L, FJ7457X & FJ*5**)(CBR 919 RRW, Hurricane &Vespa PX200)

04 Jul 2006 - 13 Jun 2011 (FV8507R & FJ*5**)(Suzuki K2 & Vespa PX200)

13 Jun 2011 - Till Now (X1)

15 Jan 2013 - 10 Sept 2015 (FBG9588B)(GTR1400 2013)

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I ask a question n I get reply which does not Ans my question with so much write up.

 

Sry dude, it was not directed at you. I just saw this thread again after a long time and decided to pen my views from experience from then till now.

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How haf u been limbat? Muz meet up for Kopi.No I do not have switch, My intention is jus use the headlight switch hi-beam The problem is my bike headlight will only light when I start my bike. If I connect the hid to my key ignition n ground it, I got no problem firing up. My fren say the bike is using AC supply for the head light.

 

Hi, regarding your problem most HID kits only run on 10+ to 19v DC. I doubt it will work on AC.

 

What you can do is to install the HID kit directly to battery and add a relay inbetween. The relay has two input poles which you can connect to the existing headlight power. What this does is when u turn on the bike and the power goes to the headlight which is redirected to the relay. Then the relay turns on the switch for the HID to tap power directly from the DC battery source.

 

Hope this helps.

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Thanks alot u jus give me the idea

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01 Mar 2006 - 04 Jul 2006 (FS9367L, FJ7457X & FJ*5**)(CBR 919 RRW, Hurricane &Vespa PX200)

04 Jul 2006 - 13 Jun 2011 (FV8507R & FJ*5**)(Suzuki K2 & Vespa PX200)

13 Jun 2011 - Till Now (X1)

15 Jan 2013 - 10 Sept 2015 (FBG9588B)(GTR1400 2013)

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Finally got it up. 2 ways to do it.

For those bike which has AC and DC.

 

1. Use additional 4 pole relay(SPDT)

2. Convert ur headlight AC supply with the means of a bridge rectifier.

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24 Nov 2004 - 28 Feb 2006 (FJ7457X & FJ*5**) (Hurricane & Vespa PX200)

01 Mar 2006 - 04 Jul 2006 (FS9367L, FJ7457X & FJ*5**)(CBR 919 RRW, Hurricane &Vespa PX200)

04 Jul 2006 - 13 Jun 2011 (FV8507R & FJ*5**)(Suzuki K2 & Vespa PX200)

13 Jun 2011 - Till Now (X1)

15 Jan 2013 - 10 Sept 2015 (FBG9588B)(GTR1400 2013)

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I ask a question n I get reply which does not Ans my question with so much write up.

 

wa lan murphy, u got my fb u dun pm me in fb? any ratings for your rectifier set up? meaning now u entirely using the hi beam switch independently??

 

i tried rectifer b4 but failed miserably. in the end just add relay and switch between pin 85/86 and a DC source. i used ignition

No more regrets.

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i tried calling u and the lady say wrong no. hehe...me using the relay method and oso added a 470farad cap to the relay for the ballast.

At first i try using a bridge recificter it work, it converts the AC current to DC Current but then again, when i turn on the headlight switch, the light on my dashboard become dim, so in the end, i change to relay. actually if u got the time plus the wiring of ur bike, you can actuall change ur bike orginal rectifier to bridge rectifier. once you change it, your whole bike will become DC liao....but then i dun wan to lost the function of being able to start without any battery on my bike.

 

Thanks

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24 Nov 2004 - 28 Feb 2006 (FJ7457X & FJ*5**) (Hurricane & Vespa PX200)

01 Mar 2006 - 04 Jul 2006 (FS9367L, FJ7457X & FJ*5**)(CBR 919 RRW, Hurricane &Vespa PX200)

04 Jul 2006 - 13 Jun 2011 (FV8507R & FJ*5**)(Suzuki K2 & Vespa PX200)

13 Jun 2011 - Till Now (X1)

15 Jan 2013 - 10 Sept 2015 (FBG9588B)(GTR1400 2013)

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