SBF Runners Cafe 2008 - FXR/VXR/RST

[szwd]

This thread is about info regarding ALL models of Gilera Runner. Please post any queries regarding bike price, spare parts & other relevant questions.

 

Please refrain from posting irrelevant stuff here as there is another thread for Gilera Runner, whereby we can discuss abt meetups & other stuff.

 

As this is a FAQ thread, we will try to answer your queries.

 

This is the other link:

RunnerNet Cafe

 

 

All infos given are correct @ print, should there be any errors, plz PM me.

Thanks!

[szwd]

http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/aka3/img1040143005.jpeg

Frame:Cradled in steel tubes with pressed steel reinforcements

Cooling :Liquid

Gear change : Automatic CVT with torque serve

Clutch :Automatic dry centrifuge type

wheel rim :Die-cast aluminium alloy

 

Model :SP 180

ENGINE:Single cylinder 2stroke Liquid Cooled

FRAME :ZAPM08

Displacement (cc):175.8CC

Bore (mm):65.6

Stroke (mm):52.0

Induction :Reed valve in crankcase

Injection(2T)/

Distribution(4T):Electronic CDI

Lubrication: separate with automatic mixer, flow regulated by engine rpm and gas valve

Start:Electric and kick starter

MaxPower:21Bhp/8,000rpm;15kW/8000rpm;14,1kW/8000rpm

MaxTorque:19Nm/7000rpm;18.3Nm/4750rpm

Compression:9.8:1

Max. speed:130km/h;80mph

0-30m time (sec):3.8

0-60m time (sec):5.4

Carburettor:Dell'orto PHVB 20.5/Mikuni VM20

Consumption ”R”ï(km/litre):21

Front brake:220 mm Dia. stainless steel disc with 25 mm Dia. dual piston floating calliper

Rear brake:240 mm Dia. stainless steel disc with hydraulic double opposed pistons

Front wheel rim:3.50x12"

Rear wheel rim:3.50x13"

Front tyre (Tubeless):120/70-12"

Rear tyre (Tubeless):130/60-13"

Front suspension:Telescopic fork with 30mm Dia upside down shafts 73mm stroke

35mm Dia. hydraulic telescopic fork, 85-mm stroke (late in 2001)

Rear suspension:Single arm with hydraulic double effect damper and adjustable helicoidal spring

Length (mm):1,780

Width (mm):720

Wheelbase (mm):1.303

Seat height (mm):815

Dry weight (kg):107

Running weight (kg):116

Fuel tank capacity (litre):12

Oil tank capacity (litre):1,8

[szwd]

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Frame:Cradled in steel tubes with pressed steel reinforcements

Cooling :Liquid

Gear change : Automatic CVT with torque serve

Clutch :Automatic dry centrifuge type

wheel rim :Die-cast aluminium alloy

 

Model :FXR 180

ENGINE:Single cylinder 2stroke Liquid Cooled

FRAME :ZAPM08

Displacement (cc):175.8CC

Bore (mm):65.6

Stroke (mm):52.0

Induction :Reed valve in crankcase

Injection(2T)/

Distribution(4T):Electronic CDI

Lubrication: separate with automatic mixer, flow regulated by engine rpm and gas valve

Start:Electric and kick starter

MaxPower:21PS/8,000rpm;15kW/8000rpm

MaxTorque:1.94kgm/7000rpm

Compression:9.8:1

Max. speed:130km/h;80mph

0-30m time (sec):3.8

0-60m time (sec):5.4

Carburettor:Dell'orto PHVB 20.5/Mikuni VM20

Consumption ”R”ï(km/litre):21

Front brake:220 mm Dia. stainless steel disc with 25 mm Dia. dual piston floating calliper

Rear brake:140mm Dia. Drum

Front wheel rim:3.50x12"

Rear wheel rim:3.50x12"

Front tyre (Tubeless):120/70-12"

Rear tyre (Tubeless):130/70-12"

Front suspension:Telescopic fork with 30mm Dia upside down shafts 73mm stroke

35mm Dia. hydraulic telescopic fork, 85-mm stroke (late in 2001)

Rear suspension:Single arm with hydraulic double effect damper and adjustable helicoidal spring

Length (mm):1,780

Width (mm):720

Wheelbase (mm):1.303

Seat height (mm):815

Dry weight (kg):107

Running weight (kg):115

Fuel tank capacity (litre):9

Oil tank capacity (litre):1,8

[szwd]

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Model: VXR 200

ENGINE:Single cylinder 4stroke Liquid Cooled (LEADER 4V L)

FRAME :ZAPM24

Displacement (cc):198

Bore (mm):72

Stroke (mm):48.6

Induction :Four Valve Single Over Head Camshaft (SOHC 4valve)

Injection(2T)/

Distribution(4T):Electronic capacitive (CDI) with variable timing (10‹- 32‹)

Lubrication: Wet sump (1 litre lubricant volume); chain-driven trochoidal pump; inlet and outlet filters

Start:Electric starter

MaxPower:1Bhp/8.500rpm;19.7ps/9,000rpm(J);14.5kW/9,000rpm(J)

MaxTorque:17,5 Nm/6500rpm;17,3 Nm/6750rpm(J);1.77kg/6750rpm(J)

Compression:11.5:1

Max. speed:over 120 km/h

0-30m time (sec):

0-60m time (sec):

Carburettor:Walbro WVF 7H

Consumption ”R”ï(km/litre):24

Front brake:similar as sp180

Rear brake:220 mm Dia. stainless steel disc with 30 mm Dia. opposed piston calliper

Front wheel rim:3.50x12"

Rear wheel rim:3.50x12"

Front tyre (Tubeless):120/70-12"

Rear tyre (Tubeless):130/70-12"

Front suspension:35mm Dia. hydraulic telescopic fork, 85-mm stroke

Rear suspension:Two dual effect hydraulic dampers, helicoidal spring adjustable to four positions,65-mm stroke

Length (mm):1.855

Width (mm): 740

Wheelbase (mm):1.340

Seat height (mm):820

Dry weight (kg):123/127(J)

Running weight (kg):to be confirmed

Fuel tank capacity (litre):12.2(of which 3.1 litres reserve);11.5(J)

Oil tank capacity (litre):to be confirmed

[szwd]

this are the essentials items that i know off which i feel is good for runner 2-strokes:

 

1)recommended tires:michelin pilot sport sc,metzler me-17

2)brake pads: carbone loraine ,scandinavian brake systems(sbs)

3)2t:any good fully-synthetic 2t ,eg. castrol r2,repsol 2t,mobil racing

4)petrol:shell 95 and above,esso 5000 and above

 

do give your opinions or views on the items that u would use.

[szwd]

as noted by spy in the runner thread,these are the things to look out for wen u lookin at a 2nd hand runner:

1.engine bushing (shaft and bushing)

* see if the whole assy moves easily ,if so needs replacement

2.steering cone bearing (bottom and top race/bearings)

* the handling of the bike fr its handlebar is crucial,shld be able to swing freely.

3.wheel bearing

4.auto choke

5.coolent and water pump

6.brake pump,brake line,brake pads and brake disc(essential as it is the thing dat stops ur bike)check for wear,tear or any abnormalites in this items.

7.hoses ,fuel lines

check for hardened,cracked,worn surfaces along the hoses,should be changed immediately....

 

do add in more jus in case i miss out anything

[jas13]

1. ENGINE WON'T START OR IS DIFFICULT TO START.

 

STARTER MOTOR WON'T ROTATE

 

Blown fuse

Low battery voltage

Faulty starter relay

Faulty, damaged or corroded connections on starter button

Wiring open, damaged or shorted

Main ignition switch faulty

Starter motor faulty

STARTER MOTOR OPERATING BUT ENGINE WON'T TURN OVER

 

Faulty starter pinion or starter gear assembly

Engine siezed(due to excessive wear, abuse or lack of lubrication)

NO FUEL FLOW

 

No fuel in tank

Fuel hoses trapped, clogged or kinked

Fuel tap clogged, diaphram split or vacume hose damaged

Carb. jets clogged

NO SPARK OR WEAK SPARK

 

Battery voltage low

Spark plug defective or worn out

Plug cap or HT lead faulty

CDI faulty

HT coil defective

Ignition switch shorted

Wiring shorted or broken

STALLING OR ROUGH IDLEING

 

Engine idle speed incorrect

Air leak in inlet manifold

Contaminated fuel

Faulty choke

Air filter clogged

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2. POOR LOW SPEED RUNNING

WEAK SPARK

 

See above(no spark or weak spark)

INCORRECT AIR/FUEL MIX

 

Pilot jet clogged

Carb. air bleed hole blocked

Air filter blocked or poorly sealed

Carb. inlet manifold loose

POOR ACCELERATION

 

Carb. leaking or dirty

Faulty choke

Brakes dragging

Clutch slipping or belt worn

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3. TRANSMISSION FAULTS

 

NO DRIVE AT REAR WHEEL

 

Broken drive belt

Clutch not engaging

NOISE OR VIBRATION

 

Bearings worn

Worn or broken gears

Loose nuts on clutch or drum

CLUTCH DOSEN'T DISENGAGE FULLY

 

Engine idel speed too high

weak clutch springs

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4. EXHAUST SMOKE

 

WHITE SMOKE-(4-STROKE)

 

Piston oil ring worn

Cylinder worn, cracked or scored

Valve oil seal damaged or worn

Engine oil level too high

Head gasket blown

Abnormal crankcase pressure

WHITE/BLUE SMOKE-(2-STROKE)

 

Incorrectly adjusted oil pump cable

Accumulated oil deposits in the exhaust from constant short journeys, go for a long drive to burn off.

BLACK SMOKE (RICH MIXTURE)

 

Air filter clogged

Automatic choke malfunction

Carb. float set too high

Main jet too big

BROWN SMOKE (LEAN MIXTURE)

 

Main jet too small or blocked

Insufficient fuel flow

Inlet manifold clamps loose

Air filter badly sealed

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5. POOR HANDLING

 

HANDLEBARS HARD TO TURN

 

Steering head bearing nut too tight

Bearings damaged

Baring races dented or worn

Inadequate steering stem lubrication

Bent steering stem

Low front tyre pressure

HANDLEBARS SHAKE OR VIBRATE

 

Tyres worn

Wheel rim or rims damaged

Worn wheel bearings

Handlebar mountings loose

Front shock bolts loose

Loose engine mountings

SCOOTER PULLS TO ONE SIDE

 

Frame bent from dropping the scooter or accident damage

Wheels out of alignment

Steering stem bent

Fork tube bent

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6. BRAKING PROBLEMS

 

Brakes are poor or inafective

 

Air in brake system

Pads or disks worn

Pads contaminated

Brake fluid deteriorated

Faulty master cylinder

Warped disk

Pads or shoes 'glazed' from overheating

BRAKE LEVER PULSATING

 

Disk warped

Axle bent

Caliper bolts loose

Wheel warped or damaged

Bearings damaged or worn

BRAKES DRAGGING

 

Master cylinder seized

Caliper piston seized

Brake lever stuck

Brake pads damaged or incorrectly fitted

[yohji]

Posted by Grapejam:

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lemme try to help u a little...

 

1. Pros and Cons (good to ride? noisy? lack of power?)

 

of course good to ride. easy to handle. noise wise its pretty noisy. definately no lack of power. stock alone is quite powerful for a scooter.

 

2. Special thing abt this bike to take note (e.g belt driven? withh belt break?)

 

belt is quite lasting (ard 10000km - 14000km) got a belt called malossi kevlar belt. better and stronger more lasting.

 

3. Maintenance cost every month

 

not too much of a maintenance actually. belts and rollers to be changed once a every 10000km? ard there... and it will cost quite abit if u're into modding... other than that, only need to spend some money on washing of carb and all..

 

4. What to maintain every month (change oil, change belt, etc?)

 

if runners were to change belt every month then most of us will be broke. hahaa... engine oil is the only thing i guess? but no need to change so often maybe once in a few months.

5. How much to fix a box (that is able to put 1 full face helmet)?

 

depends on wat kind of box u looking for (big ones/ small ones). some shops they throw in free GIVI box which shud be able to fit full face helmet. box ard $100-$200. it depends.

 

6. Price for OTR (w/o box)

 

eh... not too sure abt the market rate for vxr now.. hope others can help.

 

hope this helps. hope u get ur runner soon and join us! trust me.. its fun to own this italian stallion...

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[ronnyz]

Originally posted by sumydear@Jan 22 2005, 12:56 PM

how do i tell if the bike is SP 180 or fxr 180. is it indicated somewhere on the bike. cant find in the logcard or agreemt (mine a 2nd hand one). my hubby just told me that mine is sp180 and dats it, so not satisfied lah.. want to know more..

 

thanks in advance ya

FXR180 uses DRUM brake for the rear, SP180 uses DISC brake fer the rear.

FXR usually is FQ & early FR plate..

[Goodil]

anybodee goin to d new runner launch event held this 6 n 7 may?? btw its at heeren frm 11am - 830pm..

[speedcam]

I definately be going down because I placed my order for the Runner already. hehe

[un-sith]

erm sorry, how much roughly is it when u purchase it?

[QuietStorm]

anyone goin down? wanna go together? hehe!!!

[speedcam]

Originally posted by un-sith@Apr 29 2006, 09:48 PM

erm sorry, how much roughly is it when u purchase it?

They quoted me 7k OTR. However if the roadshow price is cheaper, they will match it. Plus they will give me the same goodies during the roadshow promotion.

[spy622]

Originally posted by speedcam@Apr 29 2006, 11:07 PM

They quoted me 7k OTR. However if the roadshow price is cheaper, they will match it. Plus they will give me the same goodies during the roadshow promotion.

alrite...a 06 runner on the road soon...Im juz waiting to this babe

will be goin dwn also but dunno when n wat time..will update again

[ArBokia]

any idead how the maintance for a runner?? like Eo , coolant, belt and fuel... can advise mi ? mi riding a TA200.. thinking of changing to runner but scared maintance too high ...

[un-sith]

Originally posted by speedcam@Apr 29 2006, 11:07 PM

They quoted me 7k OTR. However if the roadshow price is cheaper, they will match it. Plus they will give me the same goodies during the roadshow promotion.

ah, okok. 10x!

[fidoash]

Any pics of the bike

[spy622]

Originally posted by fidoash@Apr 30 2006, 01:46 PM

Any pics of the bike

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....showtopic=84277

[SpeedlimiT]

Originally posted by QuietStorm@Apr 29 2006, 10:20 PM

anyone goin down? wanna go together? hehe!!!

no prob.. organise a runner outing to this event bro..

 

oty..

[SlayGay]

hows the fuel consumption of the new one going to be like? did the salesperson say anything

[172R]

Originally posted by spy622@Apr 30 2006, 12:27 AM

alrite...a 06 runner on the road soon...Im juz waiting to this babe

will be goin dwn also but dunno when n wat time..will update again

dun wait liao!!!!

buy la!

lup ur engine over!!!!

[speedcam]

Originally posted by SlayGay@May 1 2006, 06:16 AM

hows the fuel consumption of the new one going to be like? did the salesperson say anything

I didnt ask about the fuel consumption but according to him, not too bad. Check it out on the road show this weekend. Come come

[QuietStorm]

was tinkin... if we go down as a group, where to park?

[Swing 7777]

park by the show tentage there lo..i tink can la..coz last time x8 launch they also did that..u can ask psc c wether they can allow tt anot..