Honda Varadero 1K

[Varas]

baga>> they quoting us the road legal version , not race... models are 7172-7174 but PRICE IS THE SAME.. don't hesitate , don't wait... go for it..hahahahhahaa

anyway the model number could be found in Leo vince webby. The carbon looks ... SWEET ...

 

the pixs u posted, those are race cans is it? there is no silencer ...

 

for road cans, if you like , the silencer could be removed ... see the little bolt in the technical drawing of legal cans , remove that and its time to rumbble....

 

hey u forgot to add this picture

 

http://www.sitogroup.com/pls/pazsito/pk$ges_upload.download?nome_file=F28285/FC-7175-7176-7177_1.jpg

Carbon sure looks yummy on black bike like my FAtger hahaha

[smicerboy]

Originally posted by bagahera@Apr 14 2005, 12:28 PM

Woah, feel like getting the racing cans now... Especially after the vthumper man passed inspection with his...

 

On the website is specifies the racing cans as 103db at 5000rpm - what is the limit when they test at vicom? I guess will not be able to get a cert for it etc, but do you guys know of a lot of ppl who got stopped/fined? Also, will the bike pull much more gas with these cans due to the size or is it just noticable in the power?

 

Not sure if should take the risk...

baga>> with slip ons...u feel ur pick up is much much better n power in yr hands....

 

Will it pull in more gas...??? not for my arrows....advised by ELWS workshop n mech Rosly not to change yr jetting...so in fact i got a better milleage wif my bike....

 

if u wana max power then add a dyno jet set onto yr bike....but i doubt so.....

 

cause frankly speaking...i belief everyone(including myself) wanted to hav a mod/high performance cans because 1) 70% sound (wat a Vtwin can produce)

2) 25% power

3) 5 % looks

[glennlee79]

Atwin>>

Actually my bike no problem, some itchy hand go turn on half choke for me that causes the fuss. F**K man. so nv do anything just change the 4 plug and tats it.

 

Varas>>

Ok lah 20% i also in for the pipe. When u want to order, i anytime also can transfer the $ to u bro. Bro i thought AfrikaTwin is interested too?

 

Bagahera>>

Wow going for the racing pipe? But racing pipe best go with dyno jet on ur carb.not really recommended lah but this will make it perfect. if not i think it will be abt the same performance as road legals but LOUDER lah.

 

AfrikaTwin>>

Bro i thought u interested in the pipe too? Are u still in? Maybe u like to go down meet the varas and us next tue to intro to each other, or u have already go down?

 

 

Andy2003, DonDidie>>

Bros Go for it man, it's really quite cheap man. more people, the price will be even cheaper.

[glennlee79]

Originally posted by smicerboy@Apr 14 2005, 06:26 PM

 

cause frankly speaking...i belief everyone(including myself) wanted to hav a mod/high performance cans because 1) 70% sound (wat a Vtwin can produce)

2) 25% power

3) 5 % looks

Bro same for me man

[60kmh]

Varas>>>The exhaust approve by LTA or not ar....if yes count me IN!!!

[glennlee79]

Varas>>

3 VARA and 1 AT confirmed already, waiting for more.

 

60km/h>>

It's approved, we are getting the road legal version. Once the stock arrive, we fixed up and we go LTA for approval.

[Varas]

glenn>> yeah , to add on , certificates provided to show its boleh.

For payment wise , I don't know how to go about. Transfer of $$ here is ex , maybe have to transfer from Sg.

 

 

Please add onto the list again ..

 

Comfirm list for Leo vince

1. varas (V1k, alu)

2.glenn (AT, alu)

3.Baga (V1k, alu)

4.60km/h (V1k, alu?)

[elws]

Guys Bad News for me n u guys. My Street legal Leo Vince Exhaust unable to get LTA Approval which applies to all. :cry: SO SIAN. :weep:

[Varas]

ELWS>> WHAT THE f!!!

 

Whats the reason for the reject?? Could you eleaborate more?

 

this is from the website , one motoring

 

 

Exhaust system

 

(e.g. exhaust manifolds, catalytic converters, mufflers, etc.)

 

The exhaust system, which consists of the exhaust manifold, catalytic converter and muffler, is used as part of a vehicle's exhaust emission control system to ensure that the exhaust emission meets our environmental requirements. Any modification to the exhaust system would therefore require LTA's approval. The following should be submitted to LTA for evaluation:

a) Certification from the product manufacturer stating that the proposed aftermarket exhaust system is suitable for the make and model of the vehicle.

b) Certifications or test reports from independent test laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA, JVIA, VCA etc. to show that the aftermarket exhaust system when fitted to the vehicle on a per make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission standards.

Note: Removing catalytic converters and mufflers are not allowed as it will adversely affect the exhaust emission characteristics of the vehicle.

 

We would have the docuements for (a) and (b) to show LTA. To be on the safe side , I will email the shop again to dbl comfirm .

Btw who got fax machine , so I could get the shop to fax it over . Show LTA what we got then if paper work is ok , I think physical inspection shd have no prob... hopefully.

[Vthumper]

Originally posted by elws@Apr 14 2005, 09:48 PM

Guys Bad News for me n u guys. My Street legal Leo Vince Exhaust unable to get LTA Approval which applies to all. :cry: SO SIAN. :weep:

legal no legal!!!who cares.......just do it,LET GET LOUD!!

[elws]

If they are able to produce the test reports which shows the DB ie Sound level @ certain RPM. Then everything will be easy and I can help u guys with the paper work.

 

Can you help me to ask for a copy of test report for R1100GS Leo Vince SBK Exhaust? So that I can get my exhuast approve.

[elws]

Only item "a" comes with the exhaust but item "b" does not so have to ask for it.

[Varas]

Elws>> I just send them a email requesting both. But I will help you get (b) if they have for us, surely would have it for yours.

 

CLICK THIS

 

is this what you have that comes with the exhaust system... if no .. can download from the net

[SimplyBoChap]

Originally posted by bagahera@Apr 14 2005, 12:28 PM

Woah, feel like getting the racing cans now... Especially after the vthumper man passed inspection with his...

 

On the website is specifies the racing cans as 103db at 5000rpm - what is the limit when they test at vicom? I guess will not be able to get a cert for it etc, but do you guys know of a lot of ppl who got stopped/fined? Also, will the bike pull much more gas with these cans due to the size or is it just noticable in the power?

 

Not sure if should take the risk...

Yeah I kena b4 on my aprillia arrows lor. Inspection done at independent centre passed but strict no no from LTA. Vthumper did his at independent centre. Decrease in fuel comsuption 4 me last time coz open less to reach desired speed at lower RPM mah. It may be due to decrease in weight from original exhaust also.

[SimplyBoChap]

Originally posted by Don Didie@Apr 13 2005, 11:27 PM

Varas>Bro I'll check back wit u regards to the Leo's pipes...might be interested but let me do my calculation...Feelin lucky as if GOD OF WEALTH is smilling @ me this weekend. :bouncefire:

Me 1st prize U 2nd prize can Cursing when i saw d 4d results this morning 0000 F@@K!!! If not got extra pocket money ARGHHH

[glennlee79]

Originally posted by SimplyBoChap@Apr 14 2005, 10:50 PM

Me 1st prize U 2nd prize can Cursing when i saw d 4d results this morning 0000 F@@K!!! If not got extra pocket money ARGHHH

Ok lah u all take 1st and 2nd lah, my bike number come out 3rd can liao lah, then my leo vince will be free. Tee Gong give me 1.

[elws]

The link u provide me is ard in the packaging which comes with the exhaust and this is not enough for LTA. They still need a test report which he show it to me on the spot which is not provided and cannot me found over the net. ONLY THE MANUFACTURER IS ABLE TO GIVE IT TO ME WHICH I HAVE BEEN DEMANDING FOR IT AND THEY REFUSE TO GIVE.

[Varas]

Elws>> What the hell, why they don't want to release it to you? any reasons?

Ok what is in the test reports?

Sound @ certain rpm?

What else? So I could ask from the seller over in germany

 

I See what I can do ..

[elws]

The test result show the bike make n model. The part no for the exhaust. It also indicate the DB @ the specific RPM. Also ask for my bike if without all these no approval.

[Varas]

Gentlemen>> this is the reply i got from them

 

Hello Jason

>

> a)I have contacted Leo Vince and i will get the advice for the

> Africa Twin and for XL Varadero soon.When i have them i will send

> all the papers i can get , to you within an email.

>

> To your question b)An exhaust system can not change any exhaust-

> standards.It can only change the horsepower and the loudness.To

> change the exhaust emission it is necessary to modify the

> motormanagement.So such a certificate does not exist.But wait

> until i have the advice from LeoVince and we will see what is in

> it.I will help you as far as i can and also the company LeoVince.

>

> Well you can only send the money with banktransfer or with

> paypal.With creditcard it is not possible.

>

> So lets wait for the advices and if you have other questions in

> between dont worry to ask me.

>

> Best regards

> Elke Fricke

>

 

> > Hi Elke,

> >

> > No problem about the discount. Thank you for considering it.

> >

> > I got 2 questions or rather its 2 problems now.

> > Would all road legal systems come with

> > a) Certification from the product manufacturer stating that the

> proposed aftermarket exhaust system is suitable for the make and

> model of the vehicle.

> > b) Certifications or test reports from independent test

> laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA, JVIA, VCA etc. to show that the

> aftermarket exhaust system when fitted to the vehicle on a per

> make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission

> standards.>

> > If yes , may I have a copy of each to be submitted to my local

> authority for approval before I place my orders. I would like to

> avoid the situation that all systems can't be approve for use when

> we recieve it. My friend just got rejected for road use by local

> authority for his road legal Leo vince system for his BMW Gs1100.

> >

> > And Singapore is very strict with regards to exhaust systems, a

> fine of 640 euros for being caught with non-approve systems fitted

> onto our bike... that is for 1st offender. Subsequence offences

> would lead to both fine and jail.

> >

> > I got 4 -5 orders waiting , and they are very worried about this

> issue.>

> > this is with regards to the payment, could you list out the

> various modes of payment you accept.

> > like paypal, wire transfer, and what else you accept? Credit card?

> >

> > Best rdgs,

> > Jason

[KeiHiN]

Originally posted by Varas@Apr 15 2005, 01:03 AM

Gentlemen>> this is the reply i got from them

 

Hello Jason

>

> a)I have contacted Leo Vince and i will get the advice for the

> Africa Twin and for XL Varadero soon.When i have them i will send

> all the papers i can get , to you within an email.

>

> To your question b)An exhaust system can not change any exhaust-

> standards.It can only change the horsepower and the loudness.To

> change the exhaust emission it is necessary to modify the

> motormanagement.So such a certificate does not exist.But wait

> until i have the advice from LeoVince and we will see what is in

> it.I will help you as far as i can and also the company LeoVince.

>

> Well you can only send the money with banktransfer or with

> paypal.With creditcard it is not possible.

>

> So lets wait for the advices and if you have other questions in

> between dont worry to ask me.

>

> Best regards

> Elke Fricke

>

 

> > Hi Elke,

> >

> > No problem about the discount. Thank you for considering it.

> >

> > I got 2 questions or rather its 2 problems now.

> > Would all road legal systems come with

> > a) Certification from the product manufacturer stating that the

> proposed aftermarket exhaust system is suitable for the make and

> model of the vehicle.

> > b) Certifications or test reports from independent test

> laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA, JVIA, VCA etc. to show that the

> aftermarket exhaust system when fitted to the vehicle on a per

> make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission

> standards.>

> > If yes , may I have a copy of each to be submitted to my local

> authority for approval before I place my orders. I would like to

> avoid the situation that all systems can't be approve for use when

> we recieve it. My friend just got rejected for road use by local

> authority for his road legal Leo vince system for his BMW Gs1100.

> >

> > And Singapore is very strict with regards to exhaust systems, a

> fine of 640 euros for being caught with non-approve systems fitted

> onto our bike... that is for 1st offender. Subsequence offences

> would lead to both fine and jail.

> >

> > I got 4 -5 orders waiting , and they are very worried about this

> issue.>

> > this is with regards to the payment, could you list out the

> various modes of payment you accept.

> > like paypal, wire transfer, and what else you accept? Credit card?

> >

> > Best rdgs,

> > Jason

coooool drooling liao hee hee

[babybike]

Originally posted by smicerboy@Apr 13 2005, 10:47 PM

U r right....they do tyres oso....

 

try tourance lah....its

Guys, need some Varadero advice here. I was going for the Tourance as suggested here but realised that there is no size for my front -only the back can be fitted. Tourance front is 19 inch rim size. Sian. The standard tyre fitment on my Vara (125) is stated as:-

 

Front: 110/90-18 56

Rear: 130/80-17 65

 

1) So I continued my search for a set of front and back and found some closer fitment and would like to try road tyres instead of going back to Scorpions. Do you think road tyres like Pirelli Sport Demon is ok to be fitted on enduro bikes like ours? See link here:

 

http://www.pirellimoto.com/en_96/tires/tem...productid=16927

 

2) Under Option A: If I have found the fitment that matches the front tyre ie 110/90-18 56 but the Load Rating on the new tyre is actually rated higher (at 61) than the standard oiginal tyre (at 56)...are there any bad side effects?

 

3) Under Option B: It seems that I cant find one that 100% matches BOTH the above standard fitment AND Load Rating. Is it better to match the Load Rating and sacrifice the Aspect Rating....because the other option is to get new Front 110/80-18 and load rating 57 (closer to original of 56)?

 

4) Is the handling between a V speed rated and H speed rated tyre the same at Low Speed Range below 90km/h? Currently, both the original tyres are rated P speed.

 

5) Any other comments on fitting road tyres such as BT020 on enduro bikes improves handling or makes it worse?

 

 

Bros, sorry if the above is too lengthy but I find this technical part on tyres seldom discussed. Hope to learn something because.....I need to change tyres this week

 

Thanks bros.

[Pro Dero]

baby bike

 

currently me using pirelli sport demon for rear den front mt65.....so far so grippy.....hehehe!

 

btw go to v125 thread got alot alot of tire detail there its very different from v1king in size & specs if u see closely...

 

 

to all v1kings

 

this sunday who wanna go makan, shopping, pumpin at angsana time at 11am, meet up point TBA, but i am going no matter alone with wife, gotta eat some kenny rogers grills ah got craving....hehehe!

 

confirmed

 

1. Pro Dero v125

2. Neo one v1king

3.

 

Pending

 

1. v-tour aka russel v1king

2. werxguy v1king

3. mohamed 74 k4

4. hairil s4

5. fatality xr4

6. dakar v125

 

 

 

[bagahera]

Originally posted by glennlee79@Apr 14 2005, 06:41 PM

Bagahera>>

Wow going for the racing pipe? But racing pipe best go with dyno jet on ur carb.not really recommended lah but this will make it perfect. if not i think it will be abt the same performance as road legals but LOUDER lah.

no lah, will probably go for the road legal ones, as long as we can satisfy LTA on the paperwork...

i think they are more stingy cos there is no license fee for it - if they had income for it i think they would allow it for sure...

[VVVV]

Originally posted by Varas@Apr 14 2005, 10:16 PM

I think physical inspection shd have no prob... hopefully.

Varas >>

There's another problem I realise only last night when I visited biketech.

SHAH told me...

 

Inspection at Vicom:

Street Legal pipe in order to pass LTA approval MUST:

(1) Removable silencer insert to be welded to the main cannister.

(2) Must also have additional rivet to secure that db killer

(3) System must be sold & installed by Singapore register importer that imports this item.

 

For item 1 & 2 no problem. Manufactural in Italy don't do it. It's done locally in Singapore. Small problem for LeoVince. But item number 3 is important, I don't know if they close 1 eye regards to these..... If they enforce item 3, bad news for online self-import buyers...

Anyone know more about this pls post?

 

Smicerboy >>

You the only one with certified papers for exhaust... Can you acknowledge that you have seen the certification before? ITEM a) and b) tat were posted by varas earlier?