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BMW C650GT Scooter


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Anyone riding this scooter?

 

Got mine last Monday (Christmas present)....

 

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History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

Present: BMW C650GT, Majesty S XC155

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Oooh....

 

Didn't seen it, there is thread on this

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/362018-BMW-C-600-Sport-and-C-650

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History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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Bro, you buy from ebay is cheaper than getting it from local :)

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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BMW Scooter Owners Report Stalling Problem

 

Overseas riders have reported stalling issues, below are some info.

 

Another Update From "J.W." (Below) (December 27, 2012): "Further update: Whatever they did to my bike, it does not seem to have cured the underlying condition, at least not fully. The bike has not stalled on me in motion yet since I got it back, but today, after stopping briefly for lunch (so, again, bike warmed up, stopped for a while, then started again), at 1/4 tank of gas, the bucking and surging happened again, and shortly thereafter, when coming nearly to a stop, then giving it gas at 15mph or under, then chopping the throttle, the revs dropped below idle to where the engine nearly died, several times. Darn it..."

 

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UPDATE From "G.G." (see post below) (December 26, 2012): "During my second ride the bike stalled again, but this time it was followed by a non-specific check engine light. Problem progressed to another episode of stalling, this time accompanied by incorrect temperature reading on outside temperature gauge and second non-specific solid yellow triangle error, soon followed by EWS!

 

Despite the dreaded EWS! error I was able to uneventfully ride home without further stall episode (3 times in 45 miles). After turning off the engine by kill switch but with the key in the on position, the radiator fan ran continuously for about 10 minutes (despite cold outside temperature and cool to touch engine) before it stopped, the EWS! light returned and the bike could not be restarted.

 

Tried restarting over the next 4 days without change. EWS! error, no way to energize ignition.

 

Bike returned to dealer via tow truck via very poor experience with Roadside Assistance. More info to follow... Not having a great new owner experience thus far.

 

Note to the comment from Texas owner, my stall issues all occurred on dry roads with temperature 38-44 F. Bike is stored in heated garage and has not yet been one drop wet..."

 

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From "G.G." (December 18, 2012): "I have a brand spanking new C650GT. On the first ride, with less than 20 miles, the bike stalled once at est. 10-15 mph for no reason, with no warning, no error lights and no loss of dash board lighting of controls. It immediately restarted and ran for rest of the ride.

 

Unfortunately the weather here is currently terrible and I suffer from PMS (parked motorscooter syndrome). I will write back if the issue recurs. I am grateful for this forum as I would have just ignored this single event had I not read the other comments."

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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Don't worry lah.

 

This is BMW's 2nd attempt at producing scooters after a long time since their first.

Better production models will come after learning from their mistakes.

"---- Still trying to lose weight ----"

 

Class 2B: 20 Oct 2011

Class 2A: 04 Jan 2013

Class 2: 01 Apr 2014

Class 3: 05 Mar 2012

Class 4: 24 Mar 2015

PPCDL: 06 Sept 2012

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The problems are from USA. Probably different production factory from those imported to SG.

 

Anyway, you have been using for a few days liao, no problems right?

Test test to Cameron H in Feb 13 will know reliability.

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Bike so far so good, no stall issue. Must be the weather here.

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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Whats the machine price on this GT? Best place to get?

 

(C650GT) Machine price quote from PML is $22k and OTR for my case is $25K. Local agent is PML (Performance Motors Limited).

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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But every 10K maintenance will cost a bomb, saw my friend riding GS per 10k maintenance is around $1.4K ~$1.8K. Going to burn a hole.

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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Maybe a scooter will be cheaper??

 

I'm hoping it will be cheaper and will only know the out-coming in 6 ~ 9 months time.

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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BMW Scooter Oil Leak?

 

BMW owner from Taiwan:

 

From "J.C." (January 2, 2013): "I am a C650GT owner in Taiwan. Here we have about 200+ of the first arrival lot of C series scooters delivered within last 2 months.

 

Almost every one has the same problem: The oil leak (minor) on the final transmission case. It is just a bit wet on the case, looks like gasket is not doing its job very well. It is not dripping though.

 

The dealer said the bolts might not be tighten with required torque at the assembly line, and tried to apply more torque to the bolts for those which went for the first service. However, the situation still exists. We wonder if the owners in other countries are also experiencing the same issue?"

 

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History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

Present: BMW C650GT, Majesty S XC155

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BMW Scooter Dyno Run!

 

From "J.W.T." (December 28, 2012): "Just ran a C 650 GT on a Dynojet dyno, the power maxes out at 47hp (blue graph). The Burgman is at 41, and 44 (red graph) dyno tuned with SS exhaust.

 

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History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

Present: BMW C650GT, Majesty S XC155

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BMW Scooter Oil Leak?

 

BMW owner from Taiwan:

 

From "J.C." (January 2, 2013): "I am a C650GT owner in Taiwan. Here we have about 200+ of the first arrival lot of C series scooters delivered within last 2 months.

 

Almost every one has the same problem: The oil leak (minor) on the final transmission case. It is just a bit wet on the case, looks like gasket is not doing its job very well. It is not dripping though.

 

The dealer said the bolts might not be tighten with required torque at the assembly line, and tried to apply more torque to the bolts for those which went for the first service. However, the situation still exists. We wonder if the owners in other countries are also experiencing the same issue?"

 

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BMW Scooter Dyno Run!

 

From "J.W.T." (December 28, 2012): "Just ran a C 650 GT on a Dynojet dyno, the power maxes out at 47hp (blue graph). The Burgman is at 41, and 44 (red graph) dyno tuned with SS exhaust.

 

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Could you give a link to that Dyno? Would like a detailed information of the kind of Dyno machine used & settings done to achieve that reading? That picture alone is not very clear. Thanks for sharing.

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Could you give a link to that Dyno? Would like a detailed information of the kind of Dyno machine used & settings done to achieve that reading? That picture alone is not very clear. Thanks for sharing.

 

I extract the info from webbikeworld.

Here is the link: http://www.webbikeworld.com/bmw-c-650-gt/blog.htm

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

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