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[FAQ] All you need to know about TMAX


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Introduction

Currently Tmax is in his 7th generation with 560 coming into the market early 2020. Tmax is one of the most popular since its debut in 2000. Through out the years, Tmax had seen various upgrades from engine capacity, drive train, transmission and outlook. Tmax remains till date, one of the most popular maxi scooter in the market. 

Tmax is amazing in handling in its class due to its shorter wheelbase compared to the rest of the maxi scooters. However, earlier models suffered a loss of compartmental space due to the positioning of the rear suspension. In 2017, the introduction of the Tmax DX, underseat storage allows up to 2 jet style helmets.

Tmax had moved up its engine capacity over the years, from 500 to 530, lastly 560 in 2020. Let's look at the specifications of the latest 2 generations of Tmax in the next section.

Bike Specifications

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6th Generation Tmax 530 comes in 2 version version SX and DX.         

7th Generation Tmax 560 comes in 2 version: Standard (E) / Tech Max
Both version are equipped with: Keyless Remote and Ignition Start, ABS, Traction Control, Main Stand Lock

Tech Max version will have additional features, Power Mode Tour/ Sport, Electric Powered Wind Screen, Cruise Control, Heated Grip and Seat

Visual difference between Gen 6's Tmax 530 and Tmax 560;
New Front LED Signal Light, New Rear Side Panel Design (for passenger's leg comfort), New Brake Light Design, Improved Rear Shock.

Internal Differences are better engine cooling, better transmission ratios, separable Throttle Body. 

 

Credits to @JJBuBBle for additional information

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Brakes Often or not, when it comes it modification, a lot people neglected the brakes. In this post, I'll elaborate a bit on how to improve your brakes on Tmax. Stainless steel brakehoses

Introduction Currently Tmax is in his 7th generation with 560 coming into the market early 2020. Tmax is one of the most popular since its debut in 2000. Through out the years, Tmax had seen vari

@biting_point @JJBuBBle Thanks for the effort in creating this thread. Very helpful especially for potential TMAX owners (hopefully me soon).

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Brakes

Often or not, when it comes it modification, a lot people neglected the brakes. In this post, I'll elaborate a bit on how to improve your brakes on Tmax.

Stainless steel brakehoses

One of the easiest upgrade to have a better feel. Most Japanese bikes still comes with rubber hoses from factory to keep the manufacture costs down. These hoses based on manual are to replace every 4 years. I personally replaced them at 3 years' mark, I take it as an upgrade together with replacement. There's no meaning to replace them back to factory rubber hoses. being said that many Tmax out there are still on their stock rubber hoses and running fine. It's a good upgrade, hoses are not expensive, however the labour costs are.  You will be looking at about $550 for this job.

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Changing these hoses not just a maintenance upgrade/replacement but it's also a aesthetics upgrade too.

See the coloured banjos and banjo nut!!

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Brake Rotors

Tmax comes with 267mm diameter dual front brake rotors.  Another easy way to upgrade is to change to a bigger rotor. This upgrade is easy due to the radial mounted calipers. Simple physics in this upgrade, bigger rotor needs less effort to brake.

Normally it's upgraded to a 300mm rotor, spacers are needed to "push" the calipers out to accommodate the enlarged rotor. In this case, a 16mm spacer is needed.

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As attached photos, you can see that the aftermarket rotors are significantly bigger. This is also one of the easiest way to upgrade your braking system. I'm using Galfer rotors and they are great in term of performance and looks.

Brake Calipers

 

 

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Primary Pulley Greasing

Some of you had PM me asking me why should we use the proper grease for our primary pulley.. let me explain in detail..

  1. This Yamaha Grease J is specially formulated for penetration and will turn lower viscosity when heated.. our primary pulley will be very hot once you start rolling.. then will penetrate the gearing teeth to lubricate and remove heat..
  2. the high temp blue grease that most of you think that's working, will not turn into lower viscosity fluid like Grease J during high temperature.. it will just be centrifuged out, thus the blue grease wouldn't be able to lubricate the inner gears teeth of the primary pulley..
  3. The blue grease not only will not lubricate the primary pulley, it will cause the shaft to get rusty and thus making it shear on its own gears.. the replacement is a easy $2k for the shop as the engine needs to be tear apart to change out the primary shaft.
  4. Agent is charging $120 for greasing service, and another $40-60 for cleaning out that wrong grease u using..
  5. Do not use other grease except for Yamaha Grease J!! Some shops use similar brown grease but does not have the same function at all..
  6. Greasing should be done as a maintenance job yearly due to our SG climate as water and heat will wear the grease.

Attached video is showing the primary shaft that's badly damaged by using the blue grease (blue grease had been cleaned out), pay attention to the sharp teeth..

 

Attached photo is showing a primary shaft that's on Grease J and the primary pulley being detached without any cleaning done yet! notice the gear teeth are not sharp..

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This last photo shows a comparison between the good teeth and the sharpened bad teeth..

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feel free to PM me if any of you need a greasing good time..

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On 12/8/2020 at 10:49 PM, JJBuBBle said:



Visual difference between Gen 6's Tmax 530 and Tmax 560;
New Front LED Signal Light, New Rear Side Panel Design (for passenger's leg comfort), New Brake Light Design, Improved Rear Shock.

Top Speed........ more or less about the same, so no need to ask. 😂
 

i just done some research.. not just only these differences in visual..

560 had a better cooling, new engine block with additional water cooling..

Throttle body, manifold, injectors and throttle position sensor are all removeable unlike SX/DX models..

better transmission ratios..

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Engine Check Light (ECL) issues 

One of the most common issue is the O2 (Oxygen) Sensor, the other issue will be the wheel sensor.

Scenario can reset 
1. Forget connect O2 sensor during CVT change 
2. O2 sensor dirty (stuck lean)
3. Error reading

Scenario cannot reset 
1. Broken circuitry (due to heat)
2. Wires broke during CVT change

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With ECL lighted up, there's no way to go into menu at all for Gen 6 and above models.

Not all shops have the diagnostic tool to erase the ECL.

Most of the time, the replacement of the O2 sensor will solve the problem.

HL is selling the new sensor at $240 without GST and installation..

Hit me up if you have this problem, I have a cheaper option and have the tool to reset the fault code.

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CVT/Torque Driver Issues and upgrades

Do religiously maintain your CVT as the V belt can break from over usage.

Recommended mileage is 20,000km (12,500miles)

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Most scooters will have the V belt indicators lighted up when the mileage is reached.

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Before this indicator lighted up, you should have prepare the consumables for your CVT servicing.

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If you are using stock variator, the following are needed:

  1. V belt (Different years will have different part numbers)
  2. Rollers aka weights (Different years will have different part numbers depicting different weight)
  3. U-clips aka sliders (same thru out all 530 to 560 models)
  4. Right side Round filter (same thru out 530 to 560 models) 
  5. Left side square filter (2012-2016 are different from this attached photo, 2017 till present is the same)

The left and right filters are commonly left out, these 2 filters gets quite dirty.

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Above photo shows the left side CVT filter. This side there's no reusable one, this piece costs $40 without GST.

 

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However the right side round piece have after market one that washable and reusable. This filter have minimal performance indication, the purpose for these filters are just to cool down your CVT and prevent debris from going in.

Costing $40 for OEM, it's definitely economical to buy this Malossi one at about $80..

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Aftermarket Variators

Currently to my knowledge, there's Jcosta, Malossi and Polini in the market for 530 and 560.

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Factory Recalls

Firstly I need to apologies that my knowledge is only updated on 2017 DX models as it's the model I am riding..

Currently there's 4 recalls on the Gen 6 model as what I recalled..

  1.  ECU Recall (R2019030682) - this recall is fairly simple; go down to Hong Leong to have the ECU reflashed. This recall is to eliminate some engine cut off issues.
  2. Drive Belt Recall (R2019030681) - Hong Leong will change a new belt for you... The older belt will wear prematurely. The new belt is improved and can be identified with blue wordings. (see attached photo for reference)
  3. Main Stand Recall (R2020030833) - Main stand is not welded properly, thus might break prematurely. A new improved one will be changed.
  4. Brake Switch Recall (R2021020941) - Cruise control not working due to a faulty batch of brake switches. 

All recalls are to be done for free and no payment is needed.

Do call HL and enquire then book your slots for the recall to be done.

This below photo shows the newer version of the drive belt. 

Old vbelt had all RED fonts, new belt will have BLUE and RED fonts, or you can check the serial number as below.

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Exhausts

There are few brands of Street Legal Exhaust for Tmax DX/SX to choose from.

All Tmax exhaust are full system due to the stock exhaust system being in one big piece.

  • Akraprovic (Tmax OEM)
  • Termignoni
  • SC Project
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