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[sid009]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 27 2006, 01:14 AM

 

thats the so call "520 kit" convertion.

 

front -1 rear +2 & change the chain to 520(thin) instead of stock 525(thick).

 

this will make the bike feel ligther,pickup better BUT lost top speed & spocket wear will be higher.of course,more easy to wheelie also(but may wheelie at wrong plc,wrong time then too bad lor)

 

 

 

 

it like "half-clutch"...but u dump it instant while pumping the throttle.

 

just a "feel fast" effect but wear on clutch/clutch cable at ur own risk.

 

 

 

a manual method treaching u how to setup ur fork/shock according to ur weight.

 

do a search in de forum or tmr nite then i type long long lor.

thanks me hockie... wat abt front -1 + rear -1??

think i'm havin a lil prob wit my batt liao... it seems slugglish when crankin and idling... response a lil slow too but still better than stock....

[ah_tee]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 28 2006, 01:45 PM

any guys want to fix Revtec this sat?

 

need 1 more guy and can get discount rate liao..saving of S$20 !

 

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http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....c=114829&st=160

 

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bro i m abit interested

 

but jus worry tat this thing will "siong" the other components

 

there are also devices that keep ur bike charging constant at 14v, even at idling but i think in the long run sure jeopardise other components life

[junyang]

Originally posted by ah_tee@Apr 29 2006, 01:56 AM

bro i m abit interested

 

but jus worry tat this thing will "siong" the other components

 

there are also devices that keep ur bike charging constant at 14v, even at idling but i think in the long run sure jeopardise other components life

hi bro was reading around in the forums and noticed your post

 

Anyway, to answer your question..

 

Will revtec alter my bike in anyway?

 

NO. Revtec will not alter or change your bike system in anyway. Revtec is a PASSIVE device. If your bike generates 14v, it will still be 14v. 16v, still 16v, no difference at all. Revtec WILL not damage your bike in anyway.

 

If Revtec does not alter my bike system, why does it work?

 

The motor cycle charging system is a small scale 300W charger. For smaller bikes, this can be a power drain from the single piston engine. For bigger bikes, the charging system is still a substantial load, taking at least 10% torque from the crank shaft. What Revtec does is to electrically unload the whole vehicle. Loading is caused by noise and whatnots thats generated by the charging system. Revtec electrically unloads the battery from the charging system thereby free off the engine and the battery receives a better charge.

 

Anyway, close to 500 bikes have installed and we're expecting to hit 550 bikes this weekend.. so why hesitate!

[Tashi]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 28 2006, 02:06 PM

our bro tashi has to use the 800cc~above type for his 06 1k RR la.

 

after discount is $67 instead of $90.

Thanks for the info. What time are you going? I may just tag along and look see.

[hockie69]

Originally posted by ah_tee@Apr 29 2006, 01:56 AM

 

but jus worry tat this thing will "siong" the other components

 

there are also devices that keep ur bike charging constant at 14v, even at idling but i think in the long run sure jeopardise other components life

 

actualy this type of product(not revtec but similar) has been around for cars for awhile liao(more then 5years).so far no such claim result from this type of voltage stabilizer.

 

Thanks for the info. What time are you going? I may just tag along and look see.

 

bro tashi - i would be there at 2pm beh. Block 49 old airport rd deck 4B.

[ah_tee]

Originally posted by junyang@Apr 29 2006, 06:59 AM

hi bro was reading around in the forums and noticed your post

 

Anyway, to answer your question..

 

Will revtec alter my bike in anyway?

 

NO. Revtec will not alter or change your bike system in anyway. Revtec is a PASSIVE device. If your bike generates 14v, it will still be 14v. 16v, still 16v, no difference at all. Revtec WILL not damage your bike in anyway.

 

If Revtec does not alter my bike system, why does it work?

 

The motor cycle charging system is a small scale 300W charger. For smaller bikes, this can be a power drain from the single piston engine. For bigger bikes, the charging system is still a substantial load, taking at least 10% torque from the crank shaft. What Revtec does is to electrically unload the whole vehicle. Loading is caused by noise and whatnots thats generated by the charging system. Revtec electrically unloads the battery from the charging system thereby free off the engine and the battery receives a better charge.

 

Anyway, close to 500 bikes have installed and we're expecting to hit 550 bikes this weekend.. so why hesitate!

can u give more technical info on wad does it actually do

 

i m not so interested abt all the benefits on more power n smoother rev

 

 

i m more interested on the technical aspects, u mention it sorta lighten the load, may i ask how does it do it ? does it equalise the power distribution ? does it sorta control the flutucation of our dc or ac curve ?

 

sorry for being too lor sor ahahahah

[hockie69]

can u give more technical info on wad does it actually do

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....pic=114829&st=0

 

anything more....and u need to buy the product...tear it up and DiY liao....lolz

[AlvZz]

sorri hock....

didnt share with u on the revtec

[ah_tee]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 29 2006, 10:52 AM

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....pic=114829&st=0

 

anything more....and u need to buy the product...tear it up and DiY liao....lolz

hahaha

 

from wad i gather, its actually a diy product from a grp of students

 

not too sure how true is it

[hockie69]

didnt share with u on the revtec

 

share what? no worry la.

 

this type of things is personal perference.

 

so far from mass review...not bad.so give it a try lor.

 

waited for so long liao...now last round promo then go...wahaha...i slow la.

 

will knw very soon whether it works with pc3usb anot liao.

[junyang]

Originally posted by ah_tee@Apr 29 2006, 10:26 AM

can u give more technical info on wad does it actually do

 

i m not so interested abt all the benefits on more power n smoother rev

 

 

i m more interested on the technical aspects, u mention it sorta lighten the load, may i ask how does it do it ? does it equalise the power distribution ? does it sorta control the flutucation of our dc or ac curve ?

 

sorry for being too lor sor ahahahah

The car/vehicle charging system has been the same for decades. Nothing much has been done to the basic operation of the car battery charging system. For all commercially available vehicles, the output of the alternator is regulated by an IC regulator, which charges the battery all the time and maintains the battery at about 90% before fully charged. This is a continuous drain of at least 1-2kW (for cars), or more, of the useful power from the flywheel of the engine, regardless of the driver's demand or road condition. If the engine is not properly tuned, such loading can be most obvious and annoying during idling. In fact, the larger a battery is used in a car, a larger amount of energy may be required to charge the battery depending on its state of charge.

 

The spikes and loadings on the battery also affect the ECU operation, if your car and bike is FUEL INJECTED. Also, the regulator IC in the alternator has limited response speed. All these result in a fluctuating voltage that cannot be cured by brute force, such as adding capacitors at the B+ 12V supply rail. (The output voltage is controlled by the IC pumping current into the excitation winding of the alternator. The performance of this IC has a direct relationship of output voltage stability.)

 

The fundamental solution is to optimize the whole battery charging system, improves the dynamic responses of the charging IC, increase the rate of change of field winding current to maintain optimal operation. And under certain operating conditions, balance the charging system such that the alternator no longer forces energy into the battery. Hence, at least 1-2kW of useful power is saved from the engine. With the loading removed, the engine will appear to be livelier, responsive, and the useful power can be transferred to the wheels. Also, with the load removed, the engine RPM is more stable and hence a more stable voltage is observed.

[junyang]

Originally posted by ah_tee@Apr 29 2006, 11:05 AM

hahaha

 

from wad i gather, its actually a diy product from a grp of students

 

not too sure how true is it

haha.. interesting bro.. who told you this thing is made by a bunch of students..

 

Anyway, just for you guys information.. EZ-Stab (http://www.ez-stab.com/index.php) is our parent company, which does this device for cars, but works on a similar concept.. In fact, the unit made for cars (MUCH MUCH bigger) can also be used on those bigger bikes (goldwing.. and other cruisers.. )..

 

We're both registered companies and a patent has been filed in Singapore, soon in USA and Japan. EZ-Stab is a continually developed design invented by Dr. Jonathan Wong (Power Electronic/Control, England).

 

:bounce:

[Tashi]

Dunno how true is it, someone opened up the RevTec and found it to be filled with silicones. The useful stuff is just a piece of card with a few capicitors on it ... or something to that effect. Sorry if I have described it wrong, I'm not an electrical engineer.

 

Can the silicones not be thrown out and the whole thing be made into a more ergonomic, slimmer design? Look at the Powerbook and iPod from Apple. Thin is in.

[hockie69]

Originally posted by Tashi@Apr 29 2006, 01:19 PM

Dunno how true is it, someone opened up the RevTec and found it to be filled with silicones. The useful stuff is just a piece of card with a few capicitors on it ... or something to that effect. Sorry if I have described it wrong, I'm not an electrical engineer.

bro,

 

similar product were in the market for cars for a while liao.

 

it all start from a jap co " pivot ".(they made alot of staff for cars)

 

but the product in question that start the whole "voltage stabilizer" ERA were the Pivot " Raizin " !

 

http://www.the-pivot.co.jp/product/se/img/raizin-img1.jpg

 

offical japs web --> http://www.the-pivot.co.jp/product/flame-se.html

english verison --> http://www.car-gym.com/catalog/product_inf...8a2598b4cfae30b

 

they have move-on to include two more silmiar product.Raizin.spark & raizin.sound,all target at different area within the car.of course,if u notice...the product work BEST with grounding.(dun need to explain "grounding".yeah? even HKS has it own grounding kit.)

 

sadly,they dun have bikers in mind....

 

BUT......as far as "voltage stabilizer" concern....it just that usual pcb board with caps.it the uF of the caps that makes the different.

 

but today....did notice that with the Rectec...de 600RR able to push the charging voltage to 14.02V @4k rpm....some slight improvement....for those that dun "ride near de RED" often.

[hockie69]

Originally posted by AlvZz@Apr 29 2006, 11:00 AM

sorri hock....

didnt share with u on the revtec

hmmm.....u were there?....wahahaha.

 

nbz...ask u join a grp...dun want...then go fix urself.

 

http://www.itsup.com.sg/dyan/massmeet%20290406/massmeet290406(7)%20copy.jpg

[superbike]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 26 2006, 10:47 PM

by using the proven method of SAG.the bike setup is 90% close to what ur weigh/bike will perform.

Here comes the good old way to do it.

Throublesome but near perfect setup.

The rest is only fine tune.

[superbike]

Originally posted by sid009@Apr 26 2006, 10:55 PM

SAG???

SAG =

SEX =

 

Just joking lah bro

[superbike]

Originally posted by mechwira@Apr 27 2006, 08:07 PM

 

 

 

btw, any shops to recommend from anyone where i can get m3? i want a shop which will do balancing for me. pls dun recomend alexandra village, village of the damned.

Intend to visit there.

Can PM me about this.

Thanks

[superbike]

Originally posted by ellamcoy@Apr 28 2006, 01:59 PM

White look fierce....

And also bigger

Anthing goes with white.

[superbike]

Originally posted by Tashi@Apr 29 2006, 01:19 PM

The useful stuff is just a piece of card with a few capicitors on it ... or something to that effect. Sorry if I have described it wrong, I'm not an electrical engineer.

 

Heard about that to.

No comment.

Ups for junyang for elaborate to make me read twice.

Now I understand

[AlvZz]

:sweat: sry ar hock

:sweat:

 

anyone know if our paintwork can be done by those who touch up for car??

went to yeow was quote 300++ to do up everything

like that i might as well i go change a gp paintwork even more worth man

[LastDance]

Originally posted by AlvZz@Apr 30 2006, 12:45 AM

:sweat: sry ar hock

:sweat:

 

anyone know if our paintwork can be done by those who touch up for car??

went to yeow was quote 300++ to do up everything

like that i might as well i go change a gp paintwork even more worth man

yoz AlvZz - Yeow also quoted me $300++ to touch up everything. Wanna do together GP paintwork maybe got cheaper?

[AlvZz]

i also think like tat just to touch up already 300+ that nuts

some more the first time they did for me not bery gd

they say will do for me again but then.....

gp paintwork the effect come out always not bery nice lei sometimes

then got the quote for airbush which is abt 200 more from gp paintwork

[ah_tee]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 29 2006, 11:32 PM

hmmm.....u were there?....wahahaha.

 

nbz...ask u join a grp...dun want...then go fix urself.

 

http://www.itsup.com.sg/dyan/massmeet%20290406/massmeet290406(7)%20copy.jpg

bro

 

wads ur review

 

 

1) for mine, i realise my rpm drop slightly, less engine speed to maintain my normal 100+ on expressway, now at 5k rpm i already crossing the 100kmh mark

 

2) as we tested there. charging improved slightly, manage to touch 14v now

 

3) throttle is lighter and smoother, although this part i duno if i shld like it, cos i like hard n heavy throttles

 

 

these improvements are bery bery slight for me only. i think because our bikes are still new, i think it will have some significant improvements on older bikes

[AlvZz]

hm........

i do feel better throttle

did notice abt the power that support when going on slope

but then its only a slight improvement like what u feel

but tested on my friend cbr400

it did has much better