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monoshock gives superb handling compared to twinshock. EFI's firing is definitely more precise than carb. due to GSR's raw power, it has vibrations that S4 dun have that much. every bike sure got vibration. depends on how bad is it only.

Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05

PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07

Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09

Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13

Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??

Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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monoshock gives superb handling compared to twinshock. EFI's firing is definitely more precise than carb. due to GSR's raw power, it has vibrations that S4 dun have that much. every bike sure got vibration. depends on how bad is it only.

so how bad is it? haha

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so how bad is it? haha

 

down your spine??? hahaha...

just slightly more vibration then S4 lah...

overall performance still better then S4...

compare it for yourself and you'll know what i mean...

 

how bad? wun b down the spine. from hand all the way to the elbow. thats all. agree that it performs better than S4.

Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05

PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07

Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09

Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13

Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??

Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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Hi, Friend. Consider your application first, will 400cc bike powerfull enough

for you? After you understand your requirement, then look into the nett price of the machine, you will be able narrow down your choices. Lastly, consider

the maintence cost (eg. how much engine oil needed, is spare parts easily available, road tax...)

 

I am riding Fazer 600 require 2.5 to 2.8 litres of EO. Which is lesser than S4

 

Ok.. hope you make the best choice.

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The new FZ6 looked wicked....

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torn between the 2.

 

s4 is reliable and sparts are widely avaible.

however the looks of gsr400 just got the upper hand, yet heard from fren that it's not as powerful as the spec3 and harder to maintain

 

 

comments please!

 

i heard gsr400 torque between 1 to 6k rpm is weak compare to s4, coz no Vtec.

But peak torque is about same at high rpm.

Also, GSR400 if put boxes will be very ugly unlike S4.

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i heard gsr400 torque between 1 to 6k rpm is weak compare to s4, coz no Vtec.

But peak torque is about same at high rpm.

Also, GSR400 if put boxes will be very ugly unlike S4.

:smile:

 

for spec 3, vtec kick in at 6250rpm from gear 1 to 5 is n at 6750rpm for gear 6 . so between 1000 to 6000rpm, its operating on 2 valves rather than 4 valves when vtec kick in.

 

GSR oso have something like 'vtec' kinda technology. dunno wat is the term. we oso dunno at which rpm will the other 2 valves kick in. so the comparision is not accurate. but overall, spec 3 n GSR, comparable, dun really have a big difference in terms of torque n top. wat we all know, GSR's power range is more on the low n mid n spec 3 is mid n high.

 

i agree with u that GSR dun look good with box but without box, its otherwise!! :smile:

Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05

PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07

Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09

Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13

Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??

Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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for spec 3, vtec kick in at 6250rpm from gear 1 to 5 is n at 6750rpm for gear 6 . so between 1000 to 6000rpm, its operating on 2 valves rather than 4 valves when vtec kick in.

 

GSR oso have something like 'vtec' kinda technology. dunno wat is the term. we oso dunno at which rpm will the other 2 valves kick in. so the comparision is not accurate. but overall, spec 3 n GSR, comparable, dun really have a big difference in terms of torque n top. wat we all know, GSR's power range is more on the low n mid n spec 3 is mid n high.

 

i agree with u that GSR dun look good with box but without box, its otherwise!! :smile:

 

Its not a VTEC-type device. It doesn't "kick-in" at a certain RPM nor opens more valves. The Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve simply controls the amount of air entering the intake to maintain the A/F ratio throughout the RPM range.

Suzuki's SDTV (Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve) injection system is employed again here. While your right wrist controls each primary throttle butterfly, a servo-controlled secondary butterfly manages the speed of incoming air via instructions from the engine-control module.

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so meaning to say, at all times, its running on 4 valves. just that the ecu controls the amount of air intake for the various speeds?

Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05

PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07

Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09

Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13

Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??

Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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ok. thanx for the explaination. sorry to others that i gave a wrong info. :sorry:

Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05

PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07

Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09

Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13

Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??

Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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for spec 3, vtec kick in at 6250rpm from gear 1 to 5 is n at 6750rpm for gear 6 . so between 1000 to 6000rpm, its operating on 2 valves rather than 4 valves when vtec kick in.

 

GSR oso have something like 'vtec' kinda technology. dunno wat is the term. we oso dunno at which rpm will the other 2 valves kick in. so the comparision is not accurate. but overall, spec 3 n GSR, comparable, dun really have a big difference in terms of torque n top. wat we all know, GSR's power range is more on the low n mid n spec 3 is mid n high.

 

i agree with u that GSR dun look good with box but without box, its otherwise!! :smile:

 

Actually is not operating on 2 valves, its a 4 stroke bike so everytime each cylinder is operating, the valves works one in and one out for each carb, so its 2 valves. With in-line 4 its actually working at 8 values. Once V-tec kicks in, its actually 2 in 2 out. With in-line 4 its actually working at 16 values. Hopes this explains more in details :thumb:

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Actually is not operating on 2 valves, its a 4 stroke bike so everytime each cylinder is operating, the valves works one in and one out for each carb, so its 2 valves. With in-line 4 its actually working at 8 values. Once V-tec kicks in, its actually 2 in 2 out. With in-line 4 its actually working at 16 values. Hopes this explains more in details :thumb:

 

yes. vtec model, DOHC, each cylinder got 4 valves, 2 inlet 2 exhaust. so b4 vtec kick in, its 2 valves operation, 1 in n 1 out. vtec kick in, its 4 valves operation, 2 in n 2 out. thats y its DOHC 16V inline 4. this one i know.

 

the one i dunno is the SDTV (Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve). which i got mixed up with vtec theory, thinking its both about the same, n end up giving a wrong explaination. :sweat:

Honda Super 4 Ver S: Mar 02 - Sept 05

PGO Gmax 150: Sept 05 - Dec 05

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1: Nov 05 - Apr 07

Suzuki GSR 400: Apr 07 - Dec 09

Yamaha FZ1S: Nov 09 - May 13

Kawasaki GTR 1400: Jan 13 - ??? ??

Yamaha FZ16ST: May 14 - ??? ??

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wow.. i have always wanted a spec3. but after sawing this guy riding his sleek gsr400 on the road. its so cool.. i love the sleek design and the matter of fact that it's undertray exhuast really turns me on.

 

but looks like everyone favours the gsr400 to spec3. but i would like to know, will the insurance be higher compare to spec3? what about the resale value? after gettin my 2A i planning to buy a first hand bike to last through my NS years next year.

 

so someone pelase help me!!!

i simply love the wheezing sound of my V4

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I am riding a Super4 now, but I really like the GSR. The looks is only secondary, seeing I feel the S4 looks good as well, but what attracts me to the GSR is the modern technology. Drooools. But I am only a student now.. better stick with S4.. alot of spareparts and most shops noe how to handle a S4. Might get a GSR a few years down the road when it's spareparts is more readily available and I have more $$$. :thumb:

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wow.. i have always wanted a spec3. but after sawing this guy riding his sleek gsr400 on the road. its so cool.. i love the sleek design and the matter of fact that it's undertray exhuast really turns me on.

 

but looks like everyone favours the gsr400 to spec3. but i would like to know, will the insurance be higher compare to spec3? what about the resale value? after gettin my 2A i planning to buy a first hand bike to last through my NS years next year.

 

so someone pelase help me!!!

 

why not u go in the GSR thread and ask the old bird...

 

Have being dying to get myself the GSR4! Hence my vote goes to GSR4 - no doubt about that. But now, I could only wait for an used GSR4 to come by. :cry:

 

a used one will be a bit long as this bike is still new...go to the GSR thread and ask the old bird

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