Need help ! Caught into accident

[pandagon]

On 28/04/2010, around 7.45 evening. I was on my way to the deck 3 of the MSCP at park cres to park my bike. when i reached deck 2, i saw a car with hazard light blinking quite a distance away in front of me so i stopped. Not knowing of what he is going to do, i decided to move to another lane. (There is 2 lane in the carpark, which is forward arrow on the left and reverse arrow on the right.) I confirmed that there is no moving vehicles from the reverse lane ahead, and i proceed to the reverse lane. Just when i move, the car reverse all the way to the right and hit onto my left rear side.

 

After the collision, the male driver and his wife alighted from their vehicle and concerned for any injuries. I was kinda okay just that the impart from the car was transferred to the bike then to my right arm. But still i replied i'm okay. I just thought of settling it privately as I thought just the right side of the tail light cover was damaged and it wont cost much. At scene, the wife asked for $200+ of repair fees and claims that similar accident happened before that why she know that the cover is around $200+. Being a P-Plate rider (3 months) and not knowing what to do, I agreed but i dun have cash with me. I did suggest that they take down my HP number and particulars on my NRIC. I'll pay when they finish repairing. But the wife said she is afraid that i might run away or something so she insisted that i should pay maybe a hundred or something. So i just agreed and go to the nearest ATM to withdraw $100. They accepted the money and told me that he would contact me again for the exceeded amount.

 

After the whole thing, I consulted my friends and they advise me to make a police report in case that the person will like add damages onto the car and claim that It was from the accident. Therefore i went to police station to make the report. The police kinda like tell me that I am in the disadvantage because of my experience on the road that causes poor judgment.

 

P.S I did not took any pictures of the car nor the particulars of the driver. The only thing i know is his contact number and the vehicle number. As for my bike, I just bought it 2 month ago, First hand yamaha R15 with 3rd party full cash was suffered from some damage on the left side near the pillion seats and when i ride towards deck 3 after the accident, the feeling is different. It feels like the internal engine was damaged.

 

Can anyone give me advise on what to do or maybe what will happen? Thanks in advance.

[wanaero]

I think you still can win this case. They have no proof that you have given the money as a payment. You should probably consult a lawyer. The main thing is have you reported to IDAC? Within 24 you need to report or not the case will be much harder to win.

[pandagon]

I did not report to IDAC. But i did a police report. So i need to report to IDAC? and how do i report to IDAC?

[Metal_Heart]

Was the accident your fault? From what I think you are saying. The car was flashing his blinkers. The car was parked in a parking lot? And I assume he wants to reverse out?

When you saw this you moved right towards the incoming lane?

Then the car which was flashing its blinkers reversed out and his your left side?

 

Or was were you hit by another car?

[pandagon]

Was the accident your fault? From what I think you are saying. The car was flashing his blinkers. The car was parked in a parking lot? And I assume he wants to reverse out?

When you saw this you moved right towards the incoming lane?

Then the car which was flashing its blinkers reversed out and his your left side?

 

Or was were you hit by another car?

 

The car was not in the parking lot. It was on the ongoing lane towards deck 3. The car was not moving at all. So i assume that he is either waiting for ppl or wanna park into the lot in front. I stopped behind it and looked ahead to see if any vehicle is approaching from the incoming lane then i proceed to the incoming lane to overtake him. but as i was moving to the incoming lane, the car that is not moving suddenly reversed to the right and hit onto me.

[NaRuTo13]

basically in ts case, carpark is 2 lane (of 1 direction each)

 

while on the left lane is moving forward in his view, while right lane is in driver reverse direction.

 

anyway in ur statment of car is stationary, while u overtake him, he then reverse and knock your rear which is to say u had already pass the vehicle 50percent if the point of contact can be proven.

 

i would fight the case as driver never check blindspot? or **** driver etc.

 

better get your bike to idac asap to get them to assess they could also guage the point of contact since its free service i think.

 

btw what is ur insurer?

do u intend to fight the case? the $100 got recorded not on paper etc with signature.

if u intend to fight through claiming since he might rip u apart, dun contest = admit of guilt i suppose?

if ur going to contest i think its better get the $100 back n let lawyer deal with claims. no experience on this.

 

 

can u clarify on the point of contact of your bike n car again to be sure, i think this can guage who knock who. cos no way bike use rear to knock car one right haha.

 

from what u stated is left rear side, so the point of contact for your bike is near the pillion seat left side right?

 

as for the car what is the point of contact, what if they cover up by repairing? that is also a point i think unless they did go to idac etc to get assess and u can sort of purchase their report? i not too sure on this, but like heard before.

 

if they got go assess, at least theres proof on the contact point of where their car hit ur bike, if his car hit u from his back, i think its their fault for not checking blindspot/reversing too mah.

[NaRuTo13]

reporting to idac mean get ur bike to any of idac workshop. they got ppl there to do assessing. if accident site to their place is free i tried once before. cos mine was ntuc die die must go idac first.

[pandagon]

Sorry, I forgot to add the point whereby he reverse right just to park in the slot at the right. and as for his car, his right tail light cover was damaged. and he is kinda like wanna charge me for the bumper too. cause he told me the bumper might be damaged.

[Orleng]

the fella reverse no need to check back and blindspot before moving one ah? I suggest you discuss with him. Pity no pics, else can show it's his rear hit your side. it's impossible for you to ride your side into his back. first n foremost, report to IDAC like everyone else has mentioned.

 

Unless his version of the story is he saw you stopped behind, then he reverse and you suddenly ride past. arguable from both sides.

 

Report first, write in the report the way you told it, then decide on next course of action. there are free legal clinics you can go to to get an opinion of your case. for where, I'm not sure, check google.

[pandagon]

the fella reverse no need to check back and blindspot before moving one ah? I suggest you discuss with him. Pity no pics, else can show it's his rear hit your side. it's impossible for you to ride your side into his back. first n foremost, report to IDAC like everyone else has mentioned.

 

Unless his version of the story is he saw you stopped behind, then he reverse and you suddenly ride past. arguable from both sides.

 

Report first, write in the report the way you told it, then decide on next course of action. there are free legal clinics you can go to to get an opinion of your case. for where, I'm not sure, check google.

 

Yup, i fear that too. but still, if he reverse before i do, the spot that he hit will be like in the front instead of the spot below my pillion seat.

[NaRuTo13]

go n make ur report first, then ask idac first.

 

only fear he cover up. but if it can be proven its his rear that is contact with his rear, alot of ppl will say its his fault le. but how to fight, we r not legal expert or u can consult ur insurer ask them refer u to the claim side or surveyor whoever that do damage assessing?

 

i duno u still wan to speak to the driver or not or its better not to? or juz proceed 3rd party claim on his car is possible too except outcome wont know yet.

 

ask him, ur back hit my back mean i already going to pass u then u knock me. whose fault is that?

[NaRuTo13]

http://www.lawsociety.org.sg/probono/CLC/aboutCLC.aspx

 

lawyer andy @ international plaza 62231661

the above number is gotten from this forum last time when i needed some legal help. heard he do claims also. not sure if hes the one i seen last time on personal legal consult as i went to the firm n sign a sort of iou against another person. that person was very friendly kind =)

[NaRuTo13]

Sorry, I forgot to add the point whereby he reverse right just to park in the slot at the right. and as for his car, his right tail light cover was damaged. and he is kinda like wanna charge me for the bumper too. cause he told me the bumper might be damaged.

 

if he claim so much as well ask him claim ur insurance? but duno worth it or not, u will need alot of advice in this if hes out to chop u being a p plate, lucky u post here if not u kena carrot big time.

[pandagon]

http://www.lawsociety.org.sg/probono/CLC/aboutCLC.aspx

 

lawyer andy @ international plaza 62231661

the above number is gotten from this forum last time when i needed some legal help. heard he do claims also. not sure if hes the one i seen last time on personal legal consult as i went to the firm n sign a sort of iou against another person. that person was very friendly kind =)

 

I'm from low income family. and this accident, the price to pay is too high for me. The police had told me that I'm in a disadvantage state because of my experience on the road, so most likely i will lose. I think I cant afford to hire a lawyer.

 

Thanks for your help anyway.

[NaRuTo13]

I'm from low income family. and this accident, the price to pay is too high for me. The police had told me that I'm in a disadvantage state because of my experience on the road, so most likely i will lose. I think I cant afford to hire a lawyer.

 

Thanks for your help anyway.

 

from what i read here, those who do claiming, even the bikeshop will see the chances of winning before they do claiming. example they know high percent win case, they can do free repair cos the end state amount will be claim through the other party insurer. if high chance to lose, bikeshop will say pay first in case u default payment. so no one know who will win or lose until u consult some who can know the legal system or the insurer system well.

 

as for this lawyer sorry he is open to small talk just call him on the phone can le, maybe try this and also the link provided?

 

if ppl know they can justify they will factor in the cost from the claims against the other party. correct me if i am wrong. no harm calling andy if that the case. cos i find the driver is in the wrong yet so demanding n eating u apart.

[GuiNNeSS]

I'm from low income family. and this accident, the price to pay is too high for me. The police had told me that I'm in a disadvantage state because of my experience on the road, so most likely i will lose. I think I cant afford to hire a lawyer.

 

Thanks for your help anyway.

 

If you feel this way. Then no one can really help you.

 

For your information. The vehicle reversed into you. They are liable to pay you. Not you pay them.

 

And you can claim them. Not they claim you.

 

You please just go to IDAC, report the accident. Or they might just be increasing your insurance premiums. I am sure your low income family will not appreciate that.

 

Blinker is which blinker? Hazard lights or right directional lights? (Right directional lights on a vehicle stationary, usually means that the vehicle is trying to reverse into a right parking lot.)

[GuiNNeSS]

BTW, If the driver reversed and hit someone and something, is liable for careless driving.

[pandagon]

from what i read here, those who do claiming, even the bikeshop will see the chances of winning before they do claiming. example they know high percent win case, they can do free repair cos the end state amount will be claim through the other party insurer. if high chance to lose, bikeshop will say pay first in case u default payment. so no one know who will win or lose until u consult some who can know the legal system or the insurer system well.

 

as for this lawyer sorry he is open to small talk just call him on the phone can le, maybe try this and also the link provided?

 

if ppl know they can justify they will factor in the cost from the claims against the other party. correct me if i am wrong. no harm calling andy if that the case. cos i find the driver is in the wrong yet so demanding n eating u apart.

 

Oks. I'll give a call. thanks !

[pandagon]

If you feel this way. Then no one can really help you.

 

For your information. The vehicle reversed into you. They are liable to pay you. Not you pay them.

 

And you can claim them. Not they claim you.

 

You please just go to IDAC, report the accident. Or they might just be increasing your insurance premiums. I am sure your low income family will not appreciate that.

 

Blinker is which blinker? Hazard lights or right directional lights? (Right directional lights on a vehicle stationary, usually means that the vehicle is trying to reverse into a right parking lot.)

 

He on a hazard lights. and I'm sure that he is talking to his wife thats why he didnt notice me.

[NaRuTo13]

BTW, If the driver reversed and hit someone and something, is liable for careless driving.

 

if this is correct, even i have to pay, i will make sure they get to answer for their mistake example the above.

 

if possible get back ur $100 unless u intend to settle privately which is u pay him.

 

wonder can claim the driver extorted money against a new rider/driver on the road? since its like more n more $ added.

[pandagon]

I think meanwhile i should not contact the driver. i will consult the lawyer before anything that is done. What i feel is that, the driver is kinda lost of words after the collision. All he did asked is whether im injured or not. Is the wife that negotiate with me about the $$. She even claim that maybe the bumper need to repair. & $200 is definitely not enough. I did mention to her that i dun have so much cash and i will pay for the cost after the repair, but she die die want me to gave her some $$ first.

[welly]

I think meanwhile i should not contact the driver. i will consult the lawyer before anything that is done. What i feel is that, the driver is kinda lost of words after the collision. All he did asked is whether im injured or not. Is the wife that negotiate with me about the $$. She even claim that maybe the bumper need to repair. & $200 is definitely not enough. I did mention to her that i dun have so much cash and i will pay for the cost after the repair, but she die die want me to gave her some $$ first.

 

u shdnt have given her any money in the first place...but knowing that u were a bit unsure n probable scared,i understand the rationale behind it.but nw,like what the ppl here have suggested,get your bike damages assessed by IDAC n follow up from there onwards.in future,b sure to get the full particulars of the other party n not forgetting, take as many pics of the accident site n vehicle(s)...

[GuiNNeSS]

Take your $100 given to them for charity.

 

Eventually karma and god will make them cough out 100 times more then the money they took from you.

 

Important thing is. To go to IDAC, file that accident. And claim from insurances, so the Insurances will claim from them. Combine your IDAC and police report, and you probably can request for a police investigation into the careless driving as well as see what can be classified as to how the woman demanded money from you.

[welly]

Take your $100 given to them for charity.

 

Eventually karma and god will make them cough out 100 times more then the money they took from you.

 

Important thing is. To go to IDAC, file that accident. And claim from insurances, so the Insurances will claim from them. Combine your IDAC and police report, and you probably can request for a police investigation into the careless driving as well as see what can be classified as to how the woman demanded money from you.

 

yeah..always believe that what goes arnd comes arnd.they may hv cheated a newbie of $100 which to them is chump change but God willing, they'll be poorer by many times that amt in future

[benjamin_88]

$100 settle can liao.. Small amount of fee to learn a lesson.. You 2 did exchange particulars uh? I think he won't call you and ask for more money again. Cause I personally think he is afraid too. Base on what u say, i think he never check his blindspot. If he were to call up and ask for money again. Then decide on whether to proceed in fighting this case. I don't think it's worth to fight for this $100. It might cost more in the end.

 

This is what I personally feel. Please correct if I've left out something.