NUS (National University of Singapore)

[DustyDii]

but like not scrambler also leh

[DustyDii]

it's difficult to tell u wat bike to buy.

 

why not tell us ur criteria?

hmm...something like super 4 but not super 4?? hahaz. in terms of price, maintanence, fc, mebbe speed n power not that impt.

[DustyDii]

it's same category as African Twin.

oh. is it a gd bike?

[marzocchi]

oh. is it a gd bike?

 

no comments cos it's not a very common bike. never try before also, but since it's a honda, the engine reliability is more or less there.

[marzocchi]

hmm...something like super 4 but not super 4?? hahaz. in terms of price, maintanence, fc, mebbe speed n power not that impt.

 

so i would assume,

 

1) you want a naked bike

2) you want a stable and comfortable bike for long distance travel

3) what else?

[marzocchi]

so what's stopping you from getting super4 then? other than the fact that it's common? being common is good you know?

 

1) higher resale value

2) easier/cheaper to get first and second hand parts

3) more mods to do

4) more people to share their experience

5) more shops/mechanics to repair the bike

[DustyDii]

maintanence not so jialat

price around the range of super 4 - say budget not more than 7k-8k? must be really worth it for this price. best is below 5k.

shd be it ah. cant ask for too much.

[DustyDii]

so what's stopping you from getting super4 then? other than the fact that it's common? being common is good you know?

 

1) higher resale value

2) easier/cheaper to get first and second hand parts

3) more mods to do

4) more people to share their experience

5) more shops/mechanics to repair the bike

true but mebbe wanna try other bikes. then perhaps finally settle with super 4 since that is a no regret kinda bike.

[Singaporean]

eh can dont make this club into emo club?? kitty already always emo. faz these days emo easily. now hw keep emoing. whats up sia?? too much emo leh!

 

eh harlow who say i emo.... i never emo one.... i dun like to emo and i feel its a waste of energy to emo.... i choose to be happy and i wil be...

[marzocchi]

maintanence not so jialat

price around the range of super 4 - say budget not more than 7k-8k? must be really worth it for this price. best is below 5k.

shd be it ah. cant ask for too much.

 

price range is subjective, cos it varies with the age of the bike.

 

so other than super4, what are other options you are considering now? since you been to alexander village, i'm sure the bikes there are comprehensive enough.

[DustyDii]

for now im thinking of gsr, bandit or drz.

[marzocchi]

eh harlow who say i emo.... i never emo one.... i dun like to emo and i feel its a waste of energy to emo.... i choose to be happy and i wil be...

 

i really cant agree more. i prefer to stay happy always. been optimistic what i always want.

 

Chuan Dao Qiao Tou Zi Ran Zhi....faz ask ur tutor what it means!

[DustyDii]

oh alexander village there didnt really have much choice for second hand. a lot of super 4 but no spec 3 and one or 2 drz. gsr brand new ones. like that only.

[Singaporean]

just now i go see see and survey bikes at the queensway shopping centre area there. dunnoe the name of the place. difficult leh find a bike other than s4

 

difficult but must persevere....dont be a commoner

[DustyDii]

eh harlow who say i emo.... i never emo one.... i dun like to emo and i feel its a waste of energy to emo.... i choose to be happy and i wil be...

i'm sure lar. u just dont really show it that prominently. hahaha.

[Singaporean]

i really cant agree more. i prefer to stay happy always. been optimistic what i always want.

 

Chuan Dao Qiao Tou Zi Ran Zhi....faz ask ur tutor what it means!

 

my tutor always laugh at me when i read.....coz i read with lots of feeling

[marzocchi]

for now im thinking of gsr, bandit or drz.

 

GSR

 

1) like i say, styling which i think it's quite nice with undertail exhaust. The bike looks big with class 2 look.

2) Fuel consumption - i duno man

3) EFI should be better. Even though revo is EFI, but it's relatively new and hence not cheap.

4) like i say, monoshock, which is good for the occasional track sessions.

5) i duno how the resale value cos i never look out for its prices.

 

so have you tried GSR before?

 

Bandit - best to ask chee siong, but since he's trying to sell one now, he might give bias opinion.

 

1) but, it is cheap and relatively reliable.

2) fuel consumption i think slightly higher than super4.

3) parts wise, i'm not exactly sure though.

 

DRZ - sorry i'm a scrambler guy, so i'm always pro-scrambler one.

 

1) fuel consumption varies, really depends on riding style and mods. average about 23-24km/l

2) looks wise, sure to turn head if you customise your decals and stuff.

3) parts prone to stealing cos it's too easy to steal. i can take out any scrambler's carb in less than 5mins. Which means u must put in effort to cover your bike as often as you can, out of sight, out of mind.

4) track-worthy, both PG and tuas track.

5) if you got extra cash for offroad wheels, it's as good as having an extra bike.

6) no worries for parts.

7) if u succumb to mods, you must make sure your pocket is deep.

8) relatively easy to sell, resale value is quite ok, but if u mod heavily, be prepare to suffer quite a fair bit of loss.

9) engine wear and tear definitely higher than inline 4, as the piston is running at 4 times the wearing rate.

10) not so comfortable to travel because of single thumper, hence vibration.

 

too many factors...like i say..i pro scrambler one. haha

[Singaporean]

for now im thinking of gsr, bandit or drz.

 

drz is the next super 4....

 

anyway i heard translap is v reliable...but its a old bike...and it looks like crap

 

or u can get a super 4 and mod it into a phantom

[DustyDii]

wah thanks man ch. thats really quite informative. hmm. either one for me shd be ok lar.

[Singaporean]

chie hui...give ur view on xr4 lei...

[DustyDii]

hahaha. xr4 cannot lar! not tall enough. can meh short short ppl??

[marzocchi]

that's gonna take hours leh. hahaha

 

Why xr4?

 

1) Air-cooled -> no need to worry about topping up coolant, flushing coolant, cracking radiator (radiators are not cheap, mind you) especially when you go offroad. but of course, being air cooled means heat transfer efficiency is not as good as water-cooled bike (ie, drz, wr4, ktm4 etc) and hence xr4 has the least power compared to the rest of other scramblers.

 

2) No battery -> no need to worry about battery flat, no need to change battery, lesser weight but if you offroad often, you will wish your bike has electric start.

 

3) very good low end torque -> xr4 is a very good learning bike for wheelie because of very good low end torque.

 

4) cheap to buy/maintain - considered one of the cheaper bike to maintain, just change engine oil (1.7L) and oil filter religiously. and adjust tappet clearance when it gets louder.

 

ok i'm tired to type. hahahaha. anyone in sch? i'm at comcentre now!

[Singaporean]

hahaha. xr4 cannot lar! not tall enough. can meh short short ppl??

 

aiya why pple always have the mentality scrambler not meant for those not tall enough....

 

can lower the height la....seat also can cut...worst case change the gears and rear brake to ur fingers

[marzocchi]

yeah, u can cut seat, can use shorter spring, change rear linkage, everything can be done. Customisable is the key.

[Singaporean]

ok i wan to play geochallnege