Ducati Hypermotard 821

[barracuda]

The key milestone servicings are at 1k, 15k & 30k where there are more stuff that needs to be checked and replaced. The 15k intervals are a little too long for my liking as I'm used to changing EO every 5k. The $270 regular servicing is for servcing outside these major milestone servicings which includes the standard checks/adjustments on brakes etc. People will probably do this before a track session. I probably will not spend $270 to do that as most other workshops can change EO for much lesser. Just buy the oil filter & o-ring for drain plug from them.

[barracuda]

For more details on what needs to be replaced when etc, you can refer to the owners manual (pg 198 onwards).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_SYzdYYNOClOWUzY1ZaeGdpUjg/view

 

Parts catalogue

http://www.ducati-motorcycle-parts-online.com/media/downloads/2013/Hypermotard/HYM_MY13_EN.pdf

[TheresHope]

@barracuda....

 

Swee la boss..

Thank you very much...

 

Anyway, what are your thoughts on "hard break-in" for a new bike instead of following the manual?

See link: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

 

Cant wait for my Hyper Beast!!!

 

Ride safe people...

[barracuda]

You placed your order for the HM already? There's a red & black one being prepared for handover. One of it should be yours?

 

Running in keep within 6k rpm. Within that rpm range is already quite torquey. It's pretty 'hard' riding for me already. You will be the 1st off the traffic lights and everyone else is way behind you. Overtaking on expressway also quick & fast keeping under 6k rpm.

 

Like many have said, you can potentially lose your license rather quickly if you are not careful. 6k rpm at 6th gear is already 125km/h. How 'hard' can we ride in SGP?

 

 

@barracuda....

 

Swee la boss..

Thank you very much...

 

Anyway, what are your thoughts on "hard break-in" for a new bike instead of following the manual?

See link: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

 

Cant wait for my Hyper Beast!!!

 

Ride safe people...

[TheresHope]

hi bro,

 

Sorry for late reply. been very very busy lately.

Nope. i have not ordered a HM yet. Was waiting for HM 939 to be unveiled before making any decision.

Now that it's already unveiled, I might be ordering the HM 939 in the very near future. Not confirm yet.

 

If you don't mind sharing, did you ride your HM as a daily commute?

If yes, how much petrol per month based on your daily commute mileage?

 

Yes, i know that individual riding style and riders weight comes into equation when asking about fuel mileage. I just want a rough estimate.

 

I'm planning to ride my HM as daily commute. Maybe clocking between 1500-1800 km per month.

I'm guessing i might have to pay $150-$200 (ESSO Supreme+) on petrol alone per month based on my mileage. Just a guess.

 

You placed your order for the HM already? There's a red & black one being prepared for handover. One of it should be yours?

 

Running in keep within 6k rpm. Within that rpm range is already quite torquey. It's pretty 'hard' riding for me already. You will be the 1st off the traffic lights and everyone else is way behind you. Overtaking on expressway also quick & fast keeping under 6k rpm.

 

Like many have said, you can potentially lose your license rather quickly if you are not careful. 6k rpm at 6th gear is already 125km/h. How 'hard' can we ride in SGP?

[filtered]

I was getting ard 17-18 km/L on my HM821, on Esso 95, just for reference

[TheresHope]

@filtered,

 

thanks for the reply.

did you ride your HM as daily commute?

Any problem with HM so far?

 

I'm a subscriber of a motor vlogger snowcatxx87 on youtube.

Subscribed to him cos he ride a HM SP. So far, not so good news on the HM 821 SP.

 

I've read that there're lots of problem with the HM 821.

Not sure if the problem is only in the North America market or the whole HM in general.

 

Hoping & praying that HM 939 will resolve all the problems.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN6LNf2Zot0

 

I was getting ard 17-18 km/L on my HM821, on Esso 95, just for reference

[barracuda]

Every bike model (for all brands) out there will have a few rare cases of lemons like the one you posted. Even the ever reliable Japanese bike will have a case or 2 of bad production bike and that does not make the entire product line bad. With warranty, there's nothing to fear actually. Many owners including myself are happy with the reliability so far.

 

I don't commute 100% on the HS which is dependent on weather and mood. My FC averages about 20km/L and it varies with the riding mode I select. It translate to about $24 every 220km on 95Ron. If you travel 1800km a month, it works out to $200 for petrol alone per month. Once you hit class 2 bikes, FC becomes secondary. You want performance when FC has to be sacrificed.

 

Every new model will always be better in specs. 939 surely is better than 821. But 939 will have first year production issues which the 821 has ironed out after 3 years of production. 2015 model of HM/HS 821 is as reliable as it can get already. Plus it should be priced competitively to clear for the coming 939. You can get a good deal for it now. 939 will not be available till 2nd half of 2016 I believe.

Edited December 23, 2015 by barracuda

[TheresHope]

Every bike model (for all brands) out there will have a few rare cases of lemons like the one you posted. Even the ever reliable Japanese bike will have a case or 2 of bad production bike and that does not make the entire product line bad. With warranty, there's nothing to fear actually. Many owners including myself are happy with the reliability so far.

 

I don't commute 100% on the HS which is dependent on weather and mood. My FC averages about 20km/L and it varies with the riding mode I select. It translate to about $24 every 220km on 95Ron. If you travel 1800km a month, it works out to $200 for petrol alone per month. Once you hit class 2 bikes, FC becomes secondary. You want performance when FC has to be sacrificed.

 

Every new model will always be better in specs. 939 surely is better than 821. But 939 will have first year production issues which the 821 has ironed out after 3 years of production. 2015 model of HM/HS 821 is as reliable as it can get already. Plus it should be priced competitively to clear for the coming 939. You can get a good deal for it now. 939 will not be available till 2nd half of 2016 I believe.

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

It's a relief to hear that you and other Hyper owners are happy with the reliability of the bike so far.

 

Yes, i agree that FC becomes secondary once you have Class 2 bike.

I did my maths and my estimate is almost spot on as your estimate which is around $200 per month.

 

Just got news from Ducati SG that the bike will be in SG earliest on April 2016.

Yeah, i agree that the 3 years production of 821 will definitely (hopefully) resolved the 821 issues and will be cheaper too but the new Ohlins front suspension is just like pure SEX ORGASMIC NIRVANA SESSION WITH KATE UPTON (if that make senses)! hahahaha...

When the 821 came out, i asked myself, would it be nice if Ducati put the gold Ohlins front suspension on the bike and when the 939 came out, my prayers has been answered.

 

Again, thank you for replying. You've been a great help.

hopefully we can meet up sometime in the future for some coffee session when i get my Hyper.

[barracuda]

I think if you wait till April, there will not be any 821 Hypers left hahaha. All the Ohlins goodies come with the SP version only which will cost at least $5000 more than the standard Hypermotard. Be prepared for a $40k price tag on the 939 Hypermotard SP.

[filtered]

@filtered,

 

thanks for the reply.

did you ride your HM as daily commute?

Any problem with HM so far?

 

I'm a subscriber of a motor vlogger snowcatxx87 on youtube.

Subscribed to him cos he ride a HM SP. So far, not so good news on the HM 821 SP.

 

I've read that there're lots of problem with the HM 821.

Not sure if the problem is only in the North America market or the whole HM in general.

 

Hoping & praying that HM 939 will resolve all the problems.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN6LNf2Zot0

 

Hi

 

Nope I did not use as daily commute. Only had about 8000km after 2 yrs ownership.

 

Anyway I've sold the bike alrdy, did not have any problems with it, except the throttle position sensor, which was replaced under warranty

 

Also Minerva is no longer the Ducati distributor, and rumour has it Ducati Thailand will take over.

 

However in the interim, the handover seems to be in a mess with no communication to customers, so you may wanna wait and see first.

 

Once you own another make other than Ducati, you will appreciate how much more refined the other european brands are....hehe...but having said that, I believe everybody shld own an Italian at least once =D

Edited January 18, 2016 by filtered

[TheresHope]

I think if you wait till April, there will not be any 821 Hypers left hahaha. All the Ohlins goodies come with the SP version only which will cost at least $5000 more than the standard Hypermotard. Be prepared for a $40k price tag on the 939 Hypermotard SP.

 

Hahaha... Yup. Already prepared on the cost wise. But not liking the waiting time. hehehe...

 

Hi

 

Nope I did not use as daily commute. Only had about 8000km after 2 yrs ownership.

 

Anyway I've sold the bike alrdy, did not have any problems with it, except the throttle position sensor, which was replaced under warranty

 

Also Minerva is no longer the Ducati distributor, and rumour has it Ducati Thailand will take over.

 

However in the interim, the handover seems to be in a mess with no communication to customers, so you may wanna wait and see first.

 

Once you own another make other than Ducati, you will appreciate how much more refined the other european brands are....hehe...but having said that, I believe everybody shld own an Italian at least once =D

 

Wow! Didn't know this. Guess the smart thing to do is wait.

Damn! was hoping to get new bike this year. I guess i have to wait another year to let them settle down first.

 

Thank You for this great LIFE SAVING info

 

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Anyway, Am i correct to say that most of Ducati in Spore is Made in Thailand? Pls correct me if i'm wrong.

How do i differentiate between Made In Thailand and not Made in Thailand?

Edited January 22, 2016 by TheresHope
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[filtered]

Hahaha... Yup. Already prepared on the cost wise. But not liking the waiting time. hehehe...

 

 

 

Wow! Didn't know this. Guess the smart thing to do is wait.

Damn! was hoping to get new bike this year. I guess i have to wait another year to let them settle down first.

 

Thank You for this great LIFE SAVING info

 

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Anyway, Am i correct to say that most of Ducati in Spore is Made in Thailand? Pls correct me if i'm wrong.

How do i differentiate between Made In Thailand and not Made in Thailand?

 

From what I know, the Scrambler is confirmed made in Thailand, along with the other entry level models.

The old air cooled hypers were still made in Bologna. The 821 SP should be Italian also. The base model maybe Thailand.

 

Higher end models like the Panigale and Multistrada shld still be from Italy.

 

Forget the Hyper and get a BMW R nineT. Better build (loads of aluminum used), made in Berlin, more reliable, better dealer support, and gets way more attention than the hyper =P, and no need to oil any messy chains =D

Compared to the beemer, the hyper feels rough, cheap and plasticky.

 

Oh and ducatis are hard to ride below 4k rpm, the bike will feel jerky, and really only comes alive ard 5k rpm. The nineT however has loads of usable torque down low, from 3k all the way to 8k+, which is better for commuting.

 

and most important: A BMW with 20,000km on the odo after 1 yr+ is considered normal. A ducati with the same mileage is considered high mileage hehehe...something to think abt when it comes to resale in the future. Apparently due to the boxer engine layout, the beemers do need to be ridden regularly to keep the seals etc from drying out, from what i hear.

Edited January 22, 2016 by filtered

[teambhp]

From what I know, the Scrambler is confirmed made in Thailand, along with the other entry level models.

The old air cooled hypers were still made in Bologna. The 821 SP should be Italian also. The base model maybe Thailand.

 

Higher end models like the Panigale and Multistrada shld still be from Italy.

 

Forget the Hyper and get a BMW R nineT. Better build (loads of aluminum used), made in Berlin, more reliable, better dealer support, and gets way more attention than the hyper =P, and no need to oil any messy chains =D

Compared to the beemer, the hyper feels rough, cheap and plasticky.

 

Oh and ducatis are hard to ride below 4k rpm, the bike will feel jerky, and really only comes alive ard 5k rpm. The nineT however has loads of usable torque down low, from 3k all the way to 8k+, which is better for commuting.

 

and most important: A BMW with 20,000km on the odo after 1 yr+ is considered normal. A ducati with the same mileage is considered high mileage hehehe...something to think abt when it comes to resale in the future. Apparently due to the boxer engine layout, the beemers do need to be ridden regularly to keep the seals etc from drying out, from what i hear.

How about Harley?

 

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[filtered]

Dont know abt Harleys. Never owned one and probably never will.....not my thing...

[barracuda]

The new Ducati dealer (Ducatisti) has taken over old dealership (Minerva). The old staff are still the same. Just a change in top management (boss). All Ducati bikes still come from Italy and not Thailand according to them as there is no free trade agreement between Singapore and Thailand.

 

Read the full details here:

http://www.motorcultureasia.com/news-post/ducati-singapore-reloaded-everything-you-need-to-know-2/

 

March 2016 Pricing are as follows:

 

Hypermotard 939 - $36,400

Hypermotard 939 SP - $42,000

Hyperstrada 939 - $39,000

 

BMW and Ducati have their own respective appeal to riders, likewise for niche brands, Triumph, MV Augusta etc. Just go for one that you like.

[filtered]

The new Ducati dealer (Ducatisti) has taken over old dealership (Minerva). The old staff are still the same. Just a change in top management (boss). All Ducati bikes still come from Italy and not Thailand according to them as there is no free trade agreement between Singapore and Thailand.

 

Read the full details here:

http://www.motorcultureasia.com/news-post/ducati-singapore-reloaded-everything-you-need-to-know-2/

 

March 2016 Pricing are as follows:

 

Hypermotard 939 - $36,400

Hypermotard 939 SP - $42,000

Hyperstrada 939 - $39,000

 

BMW and Ducati have their own respective appeal to riders, likewise for niche brands, Triumph, MV Augusta etc. Just go for one that you like.

 

Wah....the price of the base model 939 now is more than the 821SP 3 yrs ago....